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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: ReverendXbox on December 06, 2000, 08:35:35 AM
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Yeah, the Reverend back and badder than ever. After returning my PS2 last month (I simply became bored with it--thankfully I got all my money back--well, it was actually my brothers since I didn\'t buy it), I\'ve been playing Shenmue and waiting for Xbox(major retailers are now taking preorders). However, the Reverend has been laying low letting this PS2 thing run its course. It\'s quite obvious that Sony has shafted both retailers and consumers, but this bit of news is even more shocking.
Reports on the streets (employees of Babbage\'s and Software Ect.\'s) have revealed that Sony has told retailers to take down all Xbox promotional materials and take more PS2 preorders. What if retailers do not comply? Well, the fine folks at Sony plan to pull their PS2 shipments to that store. Hey, I thought Microsoft was supposed to be the evil ones. Just who in the hell do Sony think they are? They are so goddam arrogant that they believe that they can threaten retailers who promote a better console. This is so goddam ludicrous until it makes you want to vomit. This little Sony stunt won\'t go unnoticed by retailers and consumers. Most of all, it won\'t go unnoticed by Microsoft. When Microsoft starts throwing blows don\'t blame them, Sony threw the first punch--remember that. All these anti-Microsoft dillweeds on this board cite Microsoft\'s "monopolistic" business practices, however, they are keen to overlook Sony\'s misteps, and what a big misstep this is.
I hope Sony gets their arrogant asses handed to them this time around. This is dirty **** that Sony has pulled and they won\'t get away with it. This deepens my resent for Sony. Sony just stepped onto holy grounds with their latest stunt. They want to play hard ball with the master of hard ball, Microsoft. They just opened up a can of worms and the following months will be hell for them. Every time a anti-Microsoft goon spouts some bull****, remember this move by Sony. Sony seems to think that the success of the PS2 lies solely in their dirty little hands. Screw the retailers, they just keep the PS2\'s warm! The Reverend\'s got a feeling that this **** is going to backfire on Sony so damn bad. If the retailers retaliate, they could carry out their Xbox promotions even more aggressively, or even worse, stop carrying PS2\'s entirely (although this is highly unlikely...they need to make money too).
This may come across as a bash and the Reverend appologizes for the level-headed ones in this forum. However, to the anit-Microsoft Sony fanboys, this is a wake-up call! Sony practices dirty business tactics, and if this isn\'t an attempt to monopolize the videogames industry then I don\'t know what it is. So if you\'re going to be anti-MS, then you damn well better be anti-Sony too! Be consistent, for Gawds sake! Sony\'s already limping from the botched launch, now their poised to shoot themselves in the only good foot they have left. I\'ve seen this **** before. Success always leads to failure in this industry. It\'s a vicious cycle. I guess it\'s true that success can make the humble pompous, Sony is proving this all too well.
ReverendXbox...the truth shalt be known!
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Whatever :rolleyes: untell i see a link or something then it\'s just hearsay :yawn:
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Another damn rumor being stated as fact.(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmilecwm.tripod.com%2Fnet4%2Fketten.gif&hash=3e47ed1cdcc24491971074a14452fd3ec7315b11)
Link?!?
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True,"reports on the streets",wtf?
I think it`s another anti-hype example.
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wasn\'t there already an other thread about this, so called blackmail stuff, which I personnaly couldn\'t care less about?
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I was reading this and all I thought was rumors.
The employees for those store would not come out and say that. It sounds like crap to me..
You are just trying to start sh!t. Some of us, like me, don\'t care what happens with what system. If the X-box is the end all to be all consoles, then so be it.
But I doubt it will be. Why come in here and try to cause trouble. Its one thing to say something you heard, its another to insite a fight.
Xbox, psx2, DC.. Its all the same, just a matter of personal preference and your wallet. God if I had the money, I would own them all.
But why be so into one system.?? Why cause sh!t like this? Ignorant people do this.. And kids... well dood, I hope you have fun with your XboX
peace
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who ever said that SOny didn\'t play dirty?
OF COURSE they will!!
they\'re a huge company and they will use there corporate muscle to get there way when they need to. Difference is people don\'t prefer MicroSoft. SOny doesn\'t have to get its hands in everything unlike MS.
plus you say you sold your PS2 cause you got bored?
ever know a launch to be ABSOLUTLY THRILLING?
no you might not of been baching SOny. But you weren\'t stating facts. You were stating your facts. And sadly you\'ve become too much of a level headed moron for people to take your opnion to heart.
Now if someone respected like ddaryl were to post this. The topic would span 20 damn pages. Honestly Rev why do you come here?
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Why, the XBox will have a THRILLING LAUNCH! Yessirree. All of their games will be triple A. Myself, I refuse to buy any console until XBox comes out - even though I haven\'t seen a confirmed list of titles yet. But I do know that XBox will have a thrilling launch.
I really don\'t care that Sony\'s doing that to Microsoft; I was pissed that they were doing it to Sega (read it somewheres else). Microsoft can take care of themselves. What the hell do you expect? You want Sony to sit back and do nothing? These are corporations Rev, and they are all bastards. They are all evil money grubbing bastards that will pull any trick necessary to screw you and me out of our hard earned money. That goes for Sony, MICROSOFT, Sega, and even Nintendo. Don\'t make Microsoft out to be a martyr here. They\'re evil ****s too. Microsoft ain\'t pissed that Sony did it - oh no. They\'re pissed that they didn\'t think of it first.
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meh, the X-Box might have a good launch. But it will be plagued with bugs and bad games that aren\'t worthy of the
X-Box\'s power. But thats kinda expected at every launch.
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i only got 2 things to say and they r:
1.i like microsoft!!!
2.y do u talk in 3rd person reverend.
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Yeah, the Reverend back and badder than ever. After returning my PS2 last month (I simply became bored with it--thankfully I got all my money back--well, it was actually my brothers since I didn\'t buy it), I\'ve been playing Shenmue and waiting for Xbox(major retailers are now taking preorders). However, the Reverend has been laying low letting this PS2 thing run its course. It\'s quite obvious that Sony has shafted both retailers and consumers, but this bit of news is even more shocking.
Genius. Think of your comments you just made. First off, you say that the PS2 got "boring" then you claim to be passing the time by playing Shenmue (10 hour game, can only be played once or twice MAX) and WAITING for an entire YEAR to pass for the X-Box, and you claim the PS2 is boring? Ok, I can see the logic there, but it\'s all heresay so I\'ll let it slide for now :rolleyes:
Reports on the streets (employees of Babbage\'s and Software Ect.\'s) have revealed that Sony has told retailers to take down all Xbox promotional materials and take more PS2 preorders. What if retailers do not comply? Well, the fine folks at Sony plan to pull their PS2 shipments to that store. Hey, I thought Microsoft was supposed to be the evil ones. Just who in the hell do Sony think they are? They are so goddam arrogant that they believe that they can threaten retailers who promote a better console. This is so goddam ludicrous until it makes you want to vomit. This little Sony stunt won\'t go unnoticed by retailers and consumers. Most of all, it won\'t go unnoticed by Microsoft. When Microsoft starts throwing blows don\'t blame them, Sony threw the first punch--remember that. All these anti-Microsoft dillweeds on this board cite Microsoft\'s "monopolistic" business practices, however, they are keen to overlook Sony\'s misteps, and what a big misstep this is.
And this is bad because...? You think MS wouldn\'t have done it if Sony was coming out with a better console a year from now? You think Nintendo or Sega wouldn\'t? Don\'t be so shortsighted, MS is as bad or worse then Sony in many many ways ESPECIALLY those that gain the respective company much more cash. Kudos to Sony for doing it FIRST as ktulu stated so eloquently.
I hope Sony gets their arrogant asses handed to them this time around. This is dirty **** that Sony has pulled and they won\'t get away with it. This deepens my resent for Sony. Sony just stepped onto holy grounds with their latest stunt.
Holy grounds? dirty ****? Get away with it? You sound like someone who just lost their parents and Sony pulled the trigger. DOn\'t be so goddamn naive, MS would have done the same thing so you saying these statements is like the pot calling the kettle black. Basically, utter bull****.
They want to play hard ball with the master of hard ball, Microsoft. They just opened up a can of worms and the following months will be hell for them.
Master of hardball? MS is master of nothing in terms of consoles. They got cash, they got PC experience, but they don\'t have home console experience and that can be used to Sony\'s, Nintendo\'s, and Sega\'s advantage.
Every time a anti-Microsoft goon spouts some bull****, remember this move by Sony. Sony seems to think that the success of the PS2 lies solely in their dirty little hands. Screw the retailers, they just keep the PS2\'s warm! The Reverend\'s got a feeling that this **** is going to backfire on Sony so damn bad.
Backfire? The worse thning that can happen is a year from now, which is when and if this information would have been important if at all true, is that the retailers will put x-box machines in front of sony ones. What does that mean to lil\' Billy when he makes out his Christmas list next year? NOTHING. His parents will ASK for what\'s on his list and the retailers, desperate to make any sale no matter what, will sell those parents that PS2. Loss to Sony? Nothing.
Sony practices dirty business tactics, and if this isn\'t an attempt to monopolize the videogames industry then I don\'t know what it is. So if you\'re going to be anti-MS, then you damn well better be anti-Sony too! Be consistent, for Gawds sake! Sony\'s already limping from the botched launch, now their poised to shoot themselves in the only good foot they have left. I\'ve seen this **** before. Success always leads to failure in this industry. It\'s a vicious cycle. I guess it\'s true that success can make the humble pompous, Sony is proving this all too well.
All the companies practice dirty business tactics, I just dont understand why this lil rumor surprises you so much. It\'s not like Sony is 100% goody goody. As for monopolizing he market, no. Sony is just trying to move mroe PS2\'s off the shelves. "Why think about what\'s coming next year when you can have next year now." If MS did this first, i\'m sure you\'d be in here praising them saying "MS has pulled another great stunt again" or some BS that makes SOny seem evil and MS seem like saints when the case is true for niether company. Face it, it\'s a business, they have to make money, and they\'re gonna do it using any means possible.
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Originally posted by CYprEsS
they\'re a huge company and they will use there corporate muscle to get there way when they need to. Difference is people don\'t prefer MicroSoft. SOny doesn\'t have to get its hands in everything unlike MS.
Are we talking about the same Sony who makes VCR\'s, DVD players, TV\'s, digital TV\'s, playstations, computers, laptops, exe. ?
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hey davey i got a question for u. if the x-box came out when the ps2 came out and the ps2 comes out when the x-box will come out, dont u think u would have made the EXACT same misstakes and then think the x-box is boring and the ps2 is the better system????????
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forget about my last post i posted it in the wrong thread.
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Originally posted by DJ FOXTECCA
forget about my last post i posted it in the wrong thread.
Then why don\'t you delete it?
As far as Sony making them take all the X-Box pre-order stuff down, who cares? It\'s not coming out for a year!!! They can get plenty of pre-orders after the holiday season. If I were Sony I would do the same thing. It\'s done constantly. Companies bend over backwards just to get into Home Depot. To get an end cap must be like the second coming. Why? Because Home Depot has Power! Well Sony can make the same types of demands because of the same thing. Although if they don\'t supply product then screw them.. Put up thos pre-order signs. That\'s one thing the stores can do to make sure they get units. It could work both ways.
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I honesty think this is bullcrap imo.Show me some proof from IGN,Videogames.com or another respected nonbiased site then I\'ll believe it.
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Its a lie
I was at Software Etc... and there are XBox flyers everywhere an 0 PS2 signs
and lets face it, MS is already doing its share of BS, like the rumor that Xbox wants 2x\'s as much floor space at E3 then Sony. So in that case Xbox pulled the 1st punch, actually MS pulled the 1st 10 punches by buying up developers like Oddworld, and Bungie and others, not to mention there attempt to purchase Square. so I have to admit MS makes me want to vomit. BUt as your name choice indicates you\'ve put your blinders on and have rejoined the MS Xbox fanboy club again. You seriously need to realize that MS is doing 100x\'s more BS then Sony has or will.
Its all Bull****, and Reverend I actually thought you might be more capable of posting factual information then net hearsay, Maybe you should try to goto your local stores and actually investigate this for yourself before you waste our time posting it.
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Ktulu said it best. We all knew that this upcomming console war was going to be the bloodiest ever, and I\'m surprised that you\'re surprised at this turn of events (Should it be true). The Sega vs. Nintnedo days were small potatoes, now with corperate GIANTS like Sony & Microsoft who know how to throw their weight around in the ring, I wouldn\'t put anything past any one of these companies.
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If the rumors are true then I have to commend Sony. Yes, that right, commend them. If Sony is doing that then they have seen reality, they have eccepted the fact that the console market is not going to be handed down to them on a silver plate, they are actualy going to have to fight for it. Its a dirty tactic, and this is pretty well sony\'s only time to use it, becuase in a year they won\'t be able to.
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I think X-box will be a decent console ( this is not a flame to microsoft, but...!!! ) but you gotta face the fact that Microsoft doesn\'t have any kind of experience in the console -business and marketing et developing. Now, that\'s why they boost us an advanced Pentium III with 733 MHz. That\'s practically a computer with different suit. We all know what to expect form X-box.
You can\'t compare x-box and ps2 because they\'re so different. I won\'t say here wich\'ll eventually be better because I don\'t know ( it seems like sony will succeed better... well, sony has reputation; and backwards compatibility with PSone boosts up some buyers... however, there are lots of people who wait and see what MS can really offer in the console-business before judging it... that\'s because people don\'t trust MS in console-business ( yet )).
PS2 has EE. It\'s better than any Pentium III in some ways, but in someways it can be little worse. It has flaws and goodies ( more of these goodies ;)), but I\'d eventually pick EE than Pentium III.
Microsoft has money. It could develop a console we have never seen before ( in the graphs department ); but AGAIN it isn\'t all about graphics. And it "seems" that x-box will not be so much better than PS2. All whom are saying "X-box will be 10 times better than PS2" are just biasing.
Again, remember that this isn\'t a biased text. I\'m trying to tell my thoughts out here; my personal opinions. I have nothing against microsoft. Windows is rather good system ( compared to Mac.. wich I hate.. sorry Mac-fans...)!
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and lets face it, MS is already doing its share of BS, like the rumor that Xbox wants 2x\'s as much floor space at E3 then Sony. So in that case Xbox pulled the 1st punch, actually MS pulled the 1st 10 punches by buying up developers like Oddworld, and Bungie and others, not to mention there attempt to purchase Square. so I have to admit MS makes me want to vomit. BUt as your name choice indicates you\'ve put your blinders on and have rejoined the MS Xbox fanboy club again. You seriously need to realize that MS is doing 100x\'s more BS then Sony has or will.
First off I agree with Sony and what they are doing. I see it as common business practice to protect your investment. MS will be doing the same kind of crap later.
Floorspace? You guys are worried about floorspace? When the hell did that matter in a console race? Damn! MS put that rumor out? I thought I read that in a magazine not by an MS press release, next gen or egm if I remember correctly and the story was told in the third person?
When did MS try to buy Square? If anything is a rumor it should be that one! DDaryll I usually agree with all of your statements but not this one. 10 punches? They bought Digital Anvil, nothing great IMHO, and Bungie! That\'s two! Sony bought pysgnosis back in the day when PS1 was coming to the market but MS does the same thing and you guys don\'t like it? Where the hell were you guys when Sony did that?
MS doing 100X more BS? Come on man...you know they are lying equally! What happened to the 1,000,00 at launch? Even after that blunder Sony said they would ship 100,000 each week after that and where are they? Come on now MS is going to lie and so will Sony! You guys see Sony as this white knight, let me let you in on a secret: they are a huge corporation...just like MS.
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The Reverend is a comedic genius (despite the fact that he clearly has a very small penis).
So he\'s trying to get us to accept Microsoft by attempting to justify their business practices by claiming that Sony does the same exact thing? Funny stuff. I mean, every company plays dirty, but on the same level as Microsoft?! I don\'t think so...
"the truth shalt be known!"
Yeah but not by you.
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Originally posted by ProfessorX
First off I agree with Sony and what they are doing. I see it as common business practice to protect your investment. MS will be doing the same kind of crap later.
Floorspace? You guys are worried about floorspace? When the hell did that matter in a console race? Damn! MS put that rumor out? I thought I read that in a magazine not by an MS press release, next gen or egm if I remember correctly and the story was told in the third person?
When did MS try to buy Square? If anything is a rumor it should be that one! DDaryll I usually agree with all of your statements but not this one. 10 punches? They bought Digital Anvil, nothing great IMHO, and Bungie! That\'s two! Sony bought pysgnosis back in the day when PS1 was coming to the market but MS does the same thing and you guys don\'t like it? Where the hell were you guys when Sony did that?
MS doing 100X more BS? Come on man...you know they are lying equally! What happened to the 1,000,00 at launch? Even after that blunder Sony said they would ship 100,000 each week after that and where are they? Come on now MS is going to lie and so will Sony! You guys see Sony as this white knight, let me let you in on a secret: they are a huge corporation...just like MS.
Well Mr. X, its been proven that SOny is doing no such thing which I suspected in the 1st place, 2nd the rumor of MS wanting 2x\'s as much floor space at E3 was posted on a reputable site and is just a rumor, but the isdea is to take over any and all possible thunder from GC, PS2, and DC. In other words dorwed out the compettion so MS can take over. I\'m sure GC, DC and PS2 fans would like to see what they\'re console sare offering not just MS Xbox.
MS was strongly rumored to be inquiring about Square, how true it is I don\'t know, but MS has snatched Bungie and Halo which was supposed to come to the PS2, and Oddworld and Munch\'s Odyssee which also was coming to the PS2, two possible Killer Apps snatched away from PS2 fans cause of MS. Now its just business, sure but I don\'t want to hear for a 1/4 of a second Sony is the bad guy they haven\'t done nothing to squash anyother consoles success, Sony has only concentrated on making the PS2 successful
Now for you info Mr. X Sony is right on target for 100,000 PS2\'s a week since thier 500,000 launch. The numbers have been in and Sony is hitting there targets as promised so your ???? about where are they well there\'s your answer.
And yes Sony is a huge corporation, but let me let you in on a secret, They are no MS, and haven\'t done a thing to put themselves in the same category. 3rd parties come to Sony, SOny doesn\'t buy 3rd parties. Will see how MS plays the game.
Is Sony a white knight, I never said they were, but MS will always have the watchful eye upon them and deservingly so.
I have an Xbox on pre-order, I may or may not excersice my pre-order. It really comes down to how MS plays the game and the fact that I would like to see Sony succesful before MS, its My personal opinion and it goes beyond graphic capabilities for me.
MS has a big hill to climb how they decide to climb it will determine there fate, but the bottom line the MS name does not and will not sit well with a solid portion of the masses
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hey, dont u think its kinda obvious dat a guy wit da name reverendxbox is gonna say dis ****. its bull. oh, sony is blackmailing. hey, maybe u shud change ur name so people dont get suspicious dammit.
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I know, he should change his god damned name right ****ing now, damnit!
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you should write a novel DDaryl, cause that\'s some good ****