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Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: clips on August 20, 2007, 09:47:49 AM
I know not too many people in here are feelin\' hip-hop but this track Rule did with Lil\' Wayne is just murder...after 50 ran Ja Rule outta the game for a minute he\'s made a strong comeback with this track...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18chhia2R1Y


This next clip is just a clip i found of tupac dissing the bad boy camp(Biggie and Puffy) and even tho i liked both Biggie and pac, Pac really ripped them on this track...quick history: this stems from tupac going to new york to work on a couple of songs with Biggie and Puff, long story short Tupac didn\'t like the way the deal was goin\' down so he stormed out,...minutes later he\'s shot up and left for dead on the street,...and even tho Puff and Biggie claimed they weren\'t involved, alot of circumstantial evidence kinda showed that they were involved on some level, so this video is in response to that night he was shot...again i know alot of you don\'t really care about this but Pac really ripped them on this track....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsumLduxsjA
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: GmanJoe on August 20, 2007, 10:11:06 AM
Hip Hop has been dead to me since MTV has been whoring it out to dumb kids.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: clips on August 20, 2007, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: GmanJoe
Hip Hop has been dead to me since MTV has been whoring it out to dumb kids.


tru dat,....there\'s a reason why there\'s a 20% dropoff in sales in hip-hop today....alot of it is garbage,..i admit i still listen to some of the stuff that\'s bein played on the radio, but you can\'t get me to buy it....i will be coppin this joint by Rule tho....:fro:
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: mjps21983 on August 20, 2007, 12:14:10 PM
It\'s a decent song, probably would grow on me. Problem that Ja Rule had was he went off and did his little bitch thing with J Ho and Ashanti and when he tried rapping again people were like wtf. He should have just stayed rapping. Funny Lil Wayne looks like Lil Jon and Ja Rule looks like Busta Rhymes in this video
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: CHIZZY on August 20, 2007, 12:48:57 PM
I\'ll listen to hip hop when black people start behaving. Oh yeah, I woke up to the cops tackling one in my flower garden in my backyard last week. at 6 AM...

asshole killed my foxglove.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: Titan on August 20, 2007, 02:31:21 PM
I stopped listening to hip hop when there was no artistic value to it. The old days where they actually rapped about something was great. I liked listening to that (mostly on the radio, lol) but when all htey sing about is fucking girls, I pretty much lost interest.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: Joker on August 20, 2007, 02:40:22 PM
white people ruined rap music.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: clips on August 20, 2007, 03:05:21 PM
Quote from: CHIZZY
I\'ll listen to hip hop when black people start behaving. Oh yeah, I woke up to the cops tackling one in my flower garden in my backyard last week. at 6 AM...

asshole killed my foxglove.


And grouping ALL of black people together and stating that they need to behave in a certain manner is in what relation to hip-hop? Not gonna go there with you...and just because some cops arrested some fool in your yard, now all black folk behave in that manner? About 4 month\'s ago cops arrested a white male from a park nearby that robbed a longhorn\'s restaurant...about two month\'s ago they arrested 4 white males, their mother and father on charges of child molestation and for murdering a 5 year old afri american.....you have a**holes in all races what\'s your point?...........


If you think the music is crap then say it, but not buyin\' it for the reasons you stated and regardless of whether you were joking or not sounds really weak...how does the behavior of an artist have you to decide whether or not you\'ll buy their music? I\'m sure all of those rock bands that alot in here like engage in some type of crazy behavior as well and yet i\'m sure you\'re still buyin\' it...
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: QuDDus on August 21, 2007, 06:31:55 PM
Shit is wack Ja rule needs to quit.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: Jumpman on August 21, 2007, 07:03:26 PM
throw some d\'z on it
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: Evi on August 21, 2007, 07:13:49 PM
Ja Rule = Douche
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: clips on August 21, 2007, 07:45:10 PM
damn...no love for Ja?...:D...i still think the beat is murda and wayne and Ja did their thing on it...i guess it\'s kinda refressing because i\'m sick and tired of hearin\' "ay bay bay" and garbage like "lean with it" i cannot stand those two  songs.....and even tho 50\'s new joint drops on sept 11, i really haven\'t heard anything that\'ll make me wanna get it...last song that i liked by him was "best friend" with olivia.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: Evi on August 21, 2007, 07:48:09 PM
I can\'t stand his voice. It\'s beyond irritating. He needs to be run over with a steamroller.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: CHIZZY on August 22, 2007, 04:16:35 AM
Didn\'t both of those assholes just get arrested for weapons & drug charges within the last 2 months or so? Ja Rule and lil\'wayne and lil rayray and lil\' lil\'?

edit: found it. Well looky at that! Surprise, surprise!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/23/rappers.arrested/index.html?iref=newssearch
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: clips on August 22, 2007, 04:35:03 AM
^^^it\'s a publicity stunt...gotta keep the gangsta image in tact!..:fro:...seriously tho *shakes head* these cats just never learn, you\'re speeding and you have some heat in your whip? then wayne just openly walks down the street in ny gettin\' lifted?(maybe you could get away with it in Brooklyn on flatbush ave, but in manhattan? forget it!) they really be gettin\' caught for doin\' stupid s**t! And honestly it\'s not just these two, alot of them are almost always in trouble, and if this is what you mean by their behavior, then i agree....*it still shouldn\'t stop you from buyin\' their music if you like it tho*...;)
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: QuDDus on August 22, 2007, 05:02:18 AM
Lil Wayne is one of the tightest in the game but ja rules career seems over to me. Weezy out their doing his thing right now.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: CHIZZY on August 22, 2007, 05:03:17 AM
why wouldn\'t you be offended by what these retards are doing to the black people\'s image? It\'s MY fault that I see black folks as dangerous criminals?!? How can that be when The only people not portrayed that way on TV and other media get called "uncle Toms" ... I wouldn\'t support those people if I were you , no matter how much you like their "music"
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: GmanJoe on August 22, 2007, 05:15:23 AM
Asians are typically kung-fu fighting villains on TV and movies.

Don\'t trust me and THX. We\'ll karate chop you and blow up your house as we drive away in our souped up Civics.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: THX on August 22, 2007, 06:16:14 AM
Chizz you need to move to Africa and get back to your roots.  I\'ll drive you in my civic
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: QuDDus on August 22, 2007, 07:02:34 AM
Quote from: CHIZZY
why wouldn\'t you be offended by what these retards are doing to the black people\'s image? It\'s MY fault that I see black folks as dangerous criminals?!? How can that be when The only people not portrayed that way on TV and other media get called "uncle Toms" ... I wouldn\'t support those people if I were you , no matter how much you like their "music"


Why aren\'t you offended by the racist and poor white trash images being portrayed by some whites? The thing is if you view black people by what you see in some young hip hop video you got some serious issues.

Mainstream america does not want to see the positive shit that black america is doing. Why because all these white folks are making so much money off the same young black guys they try and tear down. If the images and shit was not marketable it would not even be one tv.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: mjps21983 on August 22, 2007, 07:07:19 AM
Quote from: QuDDus
Why aren\'t you offended by the racist and poor white trash images being portrayed by some whites? The thing is if you view black people by what you see in some young hip hop video you got some serious issues.

Mainstream america does not want to see the positive shit that black america is doing. Why because all these white folks are making so much money off the same young black guys they try and tear down. If the images and shit was not marketable it would not even be one tv.



Well stop buying their CD\'s and clothes and energy drinks and you will no longer see them on TV. Just because someone is exploiting it "the white man" doesn\'t mean it\'s their fault. If you want a cleaner image then you will need to stop supporting what is portrayed on TV. And I\'m sorry, but for most what you see on TV is what  you believe regardless of how ignorant that is, that\'s how it is.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: CHIZZY on August 22, 2007, 07:10:56 AM
I am offended by ignorant / racist white trash. I would never give money to anyone glorifying trailerparks, walmart, country music, larry the cable guy or meth dealers. Which is why I\'m confused as to why black folks would buy products made by criminals and self-confessed drug dealers, and glorify them.  

I would love to see some positive shit done by black america. Why don\'t you point me in the right direction?
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: GmanJoe on August 22, 2007, 07:12:41 AM
Quote from: QuDDus
Why aren\'t you offended by the racist and poor white trash images being portrayed by some whites? The thing is if you view black people by what you see in some young hip hop video you got some serious issues.

Mainstream america does not want to see the positive shit that black america is doing. Why because all these white folks are making so much money off the same young black guys they try and tear down. If the images and shit was not marketable it would not even be one tv.


I dunno man. Some of them rap artists "wanna keep it reeyul" and despite their success, prefer to stay ghetto and stupid. It ain\'t the white people at MTV that make\'em do that, it\'s their choice.

"Why you gotta leave the hoooood and be all boozhie and shit?"

I used to live in the ghetto when I first immigrated here. I wanted to get out of the hood asap. I can\'t see the benefit of staying there.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: QuDDus on August 22, 2007, 07:38:33 AM
Quote from: GmanJoe
I dunno man. Some of them rap artists "wanna keep it reeyul" and despite their success, prefer to stay ghetto and stupid. It ain\'t the white people at MTV that make\'em do that, it\'s their choice.

"Why you gotta leave the hoooood and be all boozhie and shit?"

I used to live in the ghetto when I first immigrated here. I wanted to get out of the hood asap. I can\'t see the benefit of staying there.


No matter what their is always going to be some forms of ignorance in every race of people because people are who they are. Its just that everyone want to attack rappers for growing up in the environment they have and saying fuck it. I am not going to change who I am for anyone. If you don\'t like what these young men are doing then you don\'t have to support them. But when you look at the media that is shit that is all over. Until you lived it you will never understand why these guys are like fuck society I am not changing me. Thats an individual choice that some have to make. Rappers don\'t respresent the entire black population.

Gman I don\'t think anyone wants to stay in the "ghetto". It is what it is though. A lot of people would not be where they are without it. You have to make the best of what your situation is. Nobody chooses to grow up in the hood. You have to make the best of whatever situation you got. The thing that pisses me off is. America acts like black people are the only people who stay in the poor areas. There are plenty of white people living in a ghetto.

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Well stop buying their CD\'s and clothes and energy drinks and you will no longer see them on TV. Just because someone is exploiting it "the white man" doesn\'t mean it\'s their fault. If you want a cleaner image then you will need to stop supporting what is portrayed on TV. And I\'m sorry, but for most what you see on TV is what you believe regardless of how ignorant that is, that\'s how it is.


Can\'t happen when all the major distributors are using hip hop to market their products. I don\'t think the media will ever change. Too much money is being made off hip hop and the negative sterio types. The world is fucked up and if you take hip hop away shit would still be the same. There would just be one lest avenue to blame for the problems of the world.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: GmanJoe on August 22, 2007, 08:01:10 AM
I know enough about reality not to be swayed by the media, tv, movies and music.

Then again, I\'m old enough to know. But some kids are impressionable and stick to what they see and hear on TV.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: clips on August 22, 2007, 07:06:03 PM
i don\'t wanna dwelve too deep on this, as qdog really hit it nicely on all points....the bottomline is line that at the end of the day these record companies which have white ceo\'s are the one\'s bankrollin\' the hip-hop industry, and if you come thru with some type of posivite happy go lucky kind of rap music, most likely it won\'t get any air play. And Chizz it really is kinda ignorant of you to have that image of black folk, just because of what you see on tv,...

Paris hilton, lindsey lohan, mel gibson, are but a few white celebrities that could have caused great harm or maybe even killed somebody while driving their vehicle in their drunken tirade.(Lohan was speeding and crashed her car into a tree) And as far as black folk bein\' seen as dangerous crminals? i see your point to some extent as that image is really all that you see of young black youth on a daily basis, but you should still be wise enough to know that all black folk aren\'t like that...




I can easily say that with my interaction with whites whether it be racist cops, or racist people on the job, that i could have easily stated that ALL white people are racist bastards, and that\'s not comin\' from what i see on tv, but it\'s comin\' from what i experienced in real life, but i know all white people aren\'t racist.





Didn\'t Lindsey Lohan get caught with with cocaine in her pocket?...


http://www.yahoo.com/s/657861


And now those charges might get dropped....she\'s driving with a suspended license and is a repeat offender,...and all she stated was that the cocaine in her pocket wasn\'t hers...:rolleyes:...you think if this was one of those "dangerous rappers" that they would\'ve gotten a break?...nope...
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: GmanJoe on August 22, 2007, 07:55:57 PM
Michael Vick got caught with marijuana in the airport.

But they strung him up on dog fighting charges.

:D
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: Titan on August 22, 2007, 08:04:22 PM
Quote from: QuDDus
No matter what their is always going to be some forms of ignorance in every race of people because people are who they are. Its just that everyone want to attack rappers for growing up in the environment they have and saying fuck it. I am not going to change who I am for anyone. If you don\'t like what these young men are doing then you don\'t have to support them. But when you look at the media that is shit that is all over. Until you lived it you will never understand why these guys are like fuck society I am not changing me. Thats an individual choice that some have to make. Rappers don\'t respresent the entire black population.

Gman I don\'t think anyone wants to stay in the "ghetto". It is what it is though. A lot of people would not be where they are without it. You have to make the best of what your situation is. Nobody chooses to grow up in the hood. You have to make the best of whatever situation you got. The thing that pisses me off is. America acts like black people are the only people who stay in the poor areas. There are plenty of white people living in a ghetto.



Can\'t happen when all the major distributors are using hip hop to market their products. I don\'t think the media will ever change. Too much money is being made off hip hop and the negative sterio types. The world is fucked up and if you take hip hop away shit would still be the same. There would just be one lest avenue to blame for the problems of the world.


Q, I think this is a rare occasion when I agree totally with you. I actually find it admirable when the rappers refuse to change who they are. You are who you are. If I move out of Jersey, I\'m still gonna act Jersey. They got cahones living in Beverly Hills and still dressing and acting like they\'re in Harlem. More power to them. And it is kinda upsetting to me that hip hop is sold to the consumer. Its like that with all music in a way but hip hop was once a true art form. Now, they just bring rappers who can just rhyme and its just horrible. Every so often, I\'ll hear a hip hop song that really does have a strong message and a good beat. My roommates download hip hop and it just pains me to hear it. How could they even market that as authentic black culture?
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: CHIZZY on August 23, 2007, 07:52:17 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/rap.and.tap.bust/index.html?iref=werecommend

AHEM.. what were you saying?


Also, my view of black people has been formed by things like, oh, I don\'t know, my wife getting mugged, my apartment being broken into, multiple vehicles being burglarized, and the fact that I almost hit some asshole everyday because they\'re walking down the middle of the street and won\'t get out of the way. The level of ignorance astounds me. Why is it that they can\'t use the sidewalk like everyone else? It\'s like they feel entitled to not obey the law or even be courteous. It wears me down everyday, and frankly, I\'m sick of it. Just for once I\'d like to be surprised.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: mjps21983 on August 23, 2007, 08:11:42 AM
Quote from: CHIZZY
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/rap.and.tap.bust/index.html?iref=werecommend

AHEM.. what were you saying?


Also, my view of black people has been formed by things like, oh, I don\'t know, my wife getting mugged, my apartment being broken into, multiple vehicles being burglarized, and the fact that I almost hit some asshole everyday because they\'re walking down the middle of the street and won\'t get out of the way. The level of ignorance astounds me. Why is it that they can\'t use the sidewalk like everyone else? It\'s like they feel entitled to not obey the law or even be courteous. It wears me down everyday, and frankly, I\'m sick of it. Just for once I\'d like to be surprised.



Woot! I can see Chizzy\'s point here and I see this on a regular basis around where I\'m at. Where they just don\'t seem to have a since of respect either for themselves or anyone else. Not saying every :fro: is like that but when you see that as the norm it tends to stick with you. Now it also depends on the way the look dress and appear. Appearance is a big thing, regardless of how you feel it makes a huge difference on when reading a person.


And since when did this thread become about race!!!  
:jacked: :jacked: :jacked:
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: Viper_Fujax on August 23, 2007, 08:37:20 AM
white people do the same thing with appearance. Seems like all white people where jeans, and maybe those collared shirts. regardless, it looks like everyone shops at the same store JUST like black people..so its not just them peoples.

Obviously there\'s differences between white and black, but gad damn. It just seems like, when i white person commits a crime we think \'what an asshole.\' But when a black person does it its like \'why do all these guys rob liquor stores?\'

But thats just in my little corner of the country. so it\'s probably deeper. It was only ~50 years ago when times were shit with racial issues. I personally still think we\'re getting more matured and progressing..just definitly not as rapidly as before. I think more black people need to get out of the south personally. Just always seems like theyre stuck in shit conditions and can\'t progress
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: mjps21983 on August 23, 2007, 12:39:36 PM
They don\'t like the cold weather.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: clips on August 23, 2007, 07:17:12 PM
Quote from: CHIZZY
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/rap.and.tap.bust/index.html?iref=werecommend

AHEM.. what were you saying?


Also, my view of black people has been formed by things like, oh, I don\'t know, my wife getting mugged, my apartment being broken into, multiple vehicles being burglarized, and the fact that I almost hit some asshole everyday because they\'re walking down the middle of the street and won\'t get out of the way. The level of ignorance astounds me. Why is it that they can\'t use the sidewalk like everyone else? It\'s like they feel entitled to not obey the law or even be courteous. It wears me down everyday, and frankly, I\'m sick of it. Just for once I\'d like to be surprised.



I guess the part about assholes bein\' in every race just goes in one ear and out the other doesn\'t it Chizz? If you\'re so determined to hold solid on that view of black folk then so be it. I\'ve lived in the projects, i know how some black folk can be and yes i know some walk around with a chip on their shoulder, but there was also alot of drug dealin\', people bein shot, even murdered (especially in the summertime) and you know what i did? i got out of that situation....saved my money up and bounced...if you don\'t like the neighborhood you\'re in then move....but didn\'t you just purchase that house not too long ago? And i\'m sure those black folk you\'re complaining about didn\'t just appear overnight....i\'m pretty sure you scoped out the area before you purchased your home and came to the conclusion that "this is a pretty nice spot"


I\'m sure if you ever seen or lived in those run down trailer parks *it\'s the equivilant(spel) to the ghetto* that it\'s the same deal.... drugs is runnin\' rampant, break-ins and the like....And i agree with mj that appearrance of the black youth in some instances may seem like that they\'re up to no-good from the jump, but the same could be said of that fresh cleaned white collar corporate type that you don\'t feel threatned by that probably just chopped somebody up and distributed their body parts all over the city. I still think you should change the way you think about black folk, but if you\'re set in your ways then there\'s nothing I or anybody else can say to make you change your view....

Just don\'t teach your kids that way of thinking cause it just seems to me you view black folk in a negative manner, and when it trickles down to the children that\'s where this vicious cycle of thinking will continue to evolve.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: Evi on August 23, 2007, 07:24:44 PM
Wow...generalizing of an entire race due to your narrow experiences. That\'s brilliant, Chizz. And if some Native Americans did the same things, would you have this same feeling towards them as well, or are you just inherently prejudice? Maybe you should move somewhere else? I\'ve seen a lot of positive things from African Americans in my town. It would "surprise you". My father\'s business van just got broken into and the neighbor was robbed within the last few weeks and only a few houses apart. The criminals were all "white". *gasp* Should I have some vendetta against white people? There\'s a lot of idiots in my neighborhood that won\'t get out of the way of oncoming cars either and they\'re also white. Goodness. Damn white people, eh? My friend was mugged by some white guy. Another point against the white people. Oh and that white rock music with all the drugs and exploitation of women and whatnot...definitely can\'t have rock music with that kind of negative promotion of bad behavior.


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Just don\'t teach your kids that way of thinking cause it just seems to me you view black folk in a negative manner, and when it trickles down to the children that\'s where this vicious cycle of thinking will continue to evolve.
That\'s generally where it starts is with parents bleeding their beliefs onto their children.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: clips on August 23, 2007, 07:51:16 PM
^^^Finally, somebody that gets it...excellent post Evi...
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: mjps21983 on August 23, 2007, 08:30:28 PM
Trust my I\'m prejudice against everyone equally. I judge people on appearance no matter what race... I\'ve known or had a ton of things happen where I grew up that were done by white folk myself and some clean cut middle-class white kids too. The only problem I have is that you say every cop racially profiles and that is probably true to an extent, but 99% the time I doubt it\'s because race more so than how your car looks and or how you are dressed. Unfortunately there are some closed minded motherfuckers out there that all they see is MTV or TV and figure all people fit in to specific stereo types. You have the blacks who run around with there blingy teeth, the mexicans that run illegally and take our money and send it back to Mexico while bumping uglies and making a billion babies in the process that all get US citizenship because they were born in the states while they were living here illegally. And the Asians that own nail salons to steal our wive\'s money. I think I covered the 3 major minorities and the typical stereotypes. But I work with all kind of races and I don\'t have a problem with that, I just can\'t stand the motherfuckers that walk around with some kind of entitlement or chip on their shoulders because they haven\'t had the best of luck in life whether they are white, black or mexican/asian.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: QuDDus on August 23, 2007, 08:37:24 PM
Quote from: CHIZZY
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/rap.and.tap.bust/index.html?iref=werecommend

AHEM.. what were you saying?


Also, my view of black people has been formed by things like, oh, I don\'t know, my wife getting mugged, my apartment being broken into, multiple vehicles being burglarized, and the fact that I almost hit some asshole everyday because they\'re walking down the middle of the street and won\'t get out of the way. The level of ignorance astounds me. Why is it that they can\'t use the sidewalk like everyone else? It\'s like they feel entitled to not obey the law or even be courteous. It wears me down everyday, and frankly, I\'m sick of it. Just for once I\'d like to be surprised.


Ignorance is bliss. If you view a populaiton of people based on a few ignorant people in your community then you are a sad case and need to educate yourself seriously. I have been through all the racist shit with white people. Even the the ghetto white people that live in shit areas and still have prejudice. But if I viewed the entire white population based on the ignorant people I came accross I would be a fool.

Ignorance has no color I thought you where much smarter than this I guess you are not.
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: Joker on August 23, 2007, 09:55:59 PM
Man FUCK ja rule
Title: Ja Rule\'s new joint...
Post by: CHIZZY on August 24, 2007, 08:24:28 AM
Well, to all the assholes who called me ignorant, fuck off. My whole point all along is that if I was black, I would not be supporting the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes. Just as I do not support any of the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes associated with my race. I\'m not going to single-handedly get rid of nascar, crystal meth trailer park living pregnant teen redneck obese wrestling-watching white trash, but I\'ll be damned if I give one red cent to them personally. (other than my tax dollars which support welfare recipients, and we all know how much control we personally have over that...) Which brings me to another point: can any of you understand being frustrated at working 50 hours a week, paying more in taxes than a lot of you make in a year, then walking with my baby to the supermarket (which is right across the street from the university) and have a 4-year-old black kid try to push my baby out of her buggy because he wants it, and the fat mother says practically nothing to him,("don\'t do dat") dragging her 4 other kids behind her, pushing a shopping cart full of junk food that my tax dollars paid for, so they will grow up with poor eating habits and have heart disease & diabetes that my tax dollars will pay to treat down the road. So call me ignorant all you like. I know I have a right to feel frustrated. And I know that you will read racism into anything I say, because it\'s the easy thing to do. I\'ve said all I wanna say here.
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Post by: GmanJoe on August 24, 2007, 08:33:36 AM
Quote from: CHIZZY
Well, to all the assholes who called me ignorant, fuck off. My whole point all along is that if I was black, I would not be supporting the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes. Just as I do not support any of the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes associated with my race. I\'m not going to single-handedly get rid of nascar, crystal meth trailer park living pregnant teen redneck obese wrestling-watching white trash, but I\'ll be damned if I give one red cent to them personally. (other than my tax dollars which support welfare recipients, and we all know how much control we personally have over that...) Which brings me to another point: can any of you understand being frustrated at working 50 hours a week, paying more in taxes than a lot of you make in a year, then walking with my baby to the supermarket (which is right across the street from the university) and have a 4-year-old black kid try to push my baby out of her buggy because he wants it, and the fat mother says practically nothing to him,("don\'t do dat") dragging her 4 other kids behind her, pushing a shopping cart full of junk food that my tax dollars paid for, so they will grow up with poor eating habits and have heart disease & diabetes that my tax dollars will pay to treat down the road. So call me ignorant all you like. I know I have a right to feel frustrated. And I know that you will read racism into anything I say, because it\'s the easy thing to do. I\'ve said all I wanna say here.


You owe lazy fat people your tax, bitch. Get back to work so the food stamp whores have more food stamps coming their way, despite the fact that they\'re barely over 25 yrs old but have the reading ability of their 2nd grader (youngest of 7 welfare kids).

You gotta keep it reeyul, whitey. :p You work for the minority now, beeyutch.

[SIZE="1"]so do I :([/SIZE]
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Post by: Phil on August 24, 2007, 10:05:55 AM
Quote from: CHIZZY
Well, to all the assholes who called me ignorant, fuck off. My whole point all along is that if I was black, I would not be supporting the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes. Just as I do not support any of the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes associated with my race. I\'m not going to single-handedly get rid of nascar, crystal meth trailer park living pregnant teen redneck obese wrestling-watching white trash, but I\'ll be damned if I give one red cent to them personally. (other than my tax dollars which support welfare recipients, and we all know how much control we personally have over that...) Which brings me to another point: can any of you understand being frustrated at working 50 hours a week, paying more in taxes than a lot of you make in a year, then walking with my baby to the supermarket (which is right across the street from the university) and have a 4-year-old black kid try to push my baby out of her buggy because he wants it, and the fat mother says practically nothing to him,("don\'t do dat") dragging her 4 other kids behind her, pushing a shopping cart full of junk food that my tax dollars paid for, so they will grow up with poor eating habits and have heart disease & diabetes that my tax dollars will pay to treat down the road. So call me ignorant all you like. I know I have a right to feel frustrated. And I know that you will read racism into anything I say, because it\'s the easy thing to do. I\'ve said all I wanna say here.


I understand your frustration but it doesn\'t have ANYTHING to do with the fact the woman or the child is black. Cut out the race in your rant and I don\'t think anyone here would disagree with you.

Although I don\'t think the fact you "paying more in taxes than a lot of you make in a year"   really means jack shit to your argument.  Does a person who works 50 hours a week and make half the amount you do have less entitlement to feel frustrated?  Does that somehow make you better?
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Post by: CHIZZY on August 24, 2007, 10:22:04 AM
Why the fuck am I arguing on the internet with a bunch of soapbox standing HYPOCRITES? I\'m out of here. this place sucks lately anyway. Vid, I think I know how to get ahold of you if I want, sammy, it\'s been cool...
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Post by: GmanJoe on August 24, 2007, 10:48:47 AM
Um...was it me? Coz I...I was just messin around. Chizzy? CHIZZY! [SIZE="7"]CHIZZYYYYY![/SIZE]
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on August 24, 2007, 11:07:49 AM
people really dont like the word ignorant...everyone\'s ignorant

but hell be back. they always come back for more..
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Post by: Samwise on August 24, 2007, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: CHIZZY
Why the fuck am I arguing on the internet with a bunch of soapbox standing HYPOCRITES? I\'m out of here. this place sucks lately anyway. Vid, I think I know how to get ahold of you if I want, sammy, it\'s been cool...
Damn, that sucks. :(

I\'ll miss you Chizzy... lemme know if you change your mind. If not, take care.

You\'re right about this place sucking though. :D
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Post by: Phil on August 24, 2007, 11:31:06 AM
Just wait a year and he\'ll come back with a different name *ahem* raz *ahem*

On a side note, take the internet less seriously man, If you don\'t like me, ignore my comments, don\'t leave a community of people you like just because of some jackass.
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Post by: GmanJoe on August 24, 2007, 11:40:05 AM
Who the hell is Raz?

LIC?
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Post by: Jumpman on August 24, 2007, 11:40:14 AM
I\'m confused...

I thought Chizzy was black?
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Post by: Evi on August 24, 2007, 12:49:43 PM
Dude...it\'s the internet. Lighten up.
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on August 24, 2007, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: GmanJoe
Who the hell is Raz?

LIC?


i guess the berlin wall fell too

who\'da thunk
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Post by: THX on August 24, 2007, 12:59:43 PM
Chizz got mad at 3 people on this msg board and thinks we\'re all HYPOCRITES.  You are racist against the innernets!!
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Post by: QuDDus on August 24, 2007, 02:49:39 PM
oK you are leaving the board just because the comments you made came off as ignorant and uneducated. Man get yourself together Chizz. All the shit about how much you make. Listen you have no idea what anyone on this board makes so don\'t assume shit sir.

Its does sound like you are a racist. Maybe you have to just  grow as a person. To just up and say fuck and get pissed off and leave shows a lot about your character. Makes no sense to even take it that deep.
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Post by: GmanJoe on August 24, 2007, 03:02:11 PM
Quote from: QuDDus
oK you are leaving the board just because the comments you made came off as ignorant and uneducated. Man get yourself together Chizz. All the shit about how much you make. Listen you have no idea what anyone on this board makes so don\'t assume shit sir.

Its does sound like you are a racist. Maybe you have to just have to grow as a person. To just up and say fuck and get pissed off and leave shows a lot about your character. Makes no sense to even take it that deep.



Mmmmm....no. He\'s not racist. He may be prejudiced against "certain" people due to their laziness and pan handling but I think deep inside, he\'s not racist at all. Hell, he married a shogun warrior princess. She\'ll kick all your zulu asses. :p
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Post by: Joker on August 24, 2007, 03:24:34 PM
Damn Chizzy, sorry to see ya go man. Best of luck to you, hope you come back some day.
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Post by: Jumpman on August 24, 2007, 03:31:00 PM
These "I\'m going away forever" posts are pretty lame.

Except if you come back like a week later.

Or months later under a different name.

If not then on your bike.
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Post by: clips on August 24, 2007, 08:18:51 PM
Quote from: CHIZZY
Well, to all the assholes who called me ignorant, fuck off. My whole point all along is that if I was black, I would not be supporting the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes. Just as I do not support any of the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes associated with my race. I\'m not going to single-handedly get rid of nascar, crystal meth trailer park living pregnant teen redneck obese wrestling-watching white trash, but I\'ll be damned if I give one red cent to them personally. (other than my tax dollars which support welfare recipients, and we all know how much control we personally have over that...) Which brings me to another point: can any of you understand being frustrated at working 50 hours a week, paying more in taxes than a lot of you make in a year, then walking with my baby to the supermarket (which is right across the street from the university) and have a 4-year-old black kid try to push my baby out of her buggy because he wants it, and the fat mother says practically nothing to him,("don\'t do dat") dragging her 4 other kids behind her, pushing a shopping cart full of junk food that my tax dollars paid for, so they will grow up with poor eating habits and have heart disease & diabetes that my tax dollars will pay to treat down the road. So call me ignorant all you like. I know I have a right to feel frustrated. And I know that you will read racism into anything I say, because it\'s the easy thing to do. I\'ve said all I wanna say here.



Chizz, i\'ve seen that same scenario with poor white trash down here....but you see how this works? You\'re acting like only black folk behave in that manner....for every story you bring up with a negative stance towards black folk, i can counter with a negative one from white folk, but it\'s all bullsh*t...you can find those same type of people in every race,....my tax dollars support those same people you\'re complaining about as well,..whether they\'re black, white, mexican or whatever....maybe where you\'re at black folk behaving like that is all you see, but i thought you would\'ve been a bit smarter to know that all black folk aren\'t like that...

And why leave? It\'s just a discussion, and as much as you yourself throw alot of the racial jokes around, it\'s kinda funny that you would just leave over something like this....i\'ve gotten into arguments with people here and even if i didn\'t agree with them i never went on some tirade talkin\' bout i\'m never gonna return...that\'s just a bitch\'s way out of it...for the most part where all adults and men up in here and i thought if we got into a heated discussion, that no-matter what, the very next day we could come back in here and kick it like nothin\' ever happened....