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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: GmanJoe on October 24, 2007, 10:53:27 AM
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wow. LOL. interesting story.
Gmanjoe, a word of advice. try to save those images in PNG format or at least GIF since both are lossless compression. PNG preferably since its a 24 bits lossess image codec while GIF is an 8 bits lossless codec. Also, PNG is more an efficient lossless compressor than GIF.
Unless, it\'s a picture with lot of variation of colors, then lossy compressor like JPEG is more efficient at reducing the image size, but at the cost of degration.
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Meh...I ain\'t saving that and converting and uploading it to my photbucket. :)
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no needs to convert. PNG has been around for a quite a while, i think since the release of Windows 98 or maybe Windows 95 or maybe earlier was where PNG has been widely supported. not only windows, but other OS has does supports PNG for quite sometimes.
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I think what he meant was: I can\'t be bothered to save the image, convert it and upload it again just for your pretty face. ;)
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wow. LOL. interesting story.
Gmanjoe, a word of advice. try to save those images in PNG format or at least GIF since both are lossless compression. PNG preferably since its a 24 bits lossess image codec while GIF is an 8 bits lossless codec. Also, PNG is more an efficient lossless compressor than GIF.
Unless, it\'s a picture with lot of variation of colors, then lossy compressor like JPEG is more efficient at reducing the image size, but at the cost of degration.
Who cares? I can read it and it looks fine.
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I think what he meant was: I can\'t be bothered to save the image, convert it and upload it again just for your pretty face. ;)
I see. I am not telling him to bother and look for that image and saving it again in png. I am just informing him something that I know. So, next time he can save basic images like graph, charts, or cartoon images in png. Just my suggestion.
Oh, also, png needs no conversion because all OS supports it. it will decode it on the fly like jpg where all OS supports it and decode it too.
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LOL. XD
He spelled loser wrong.
Yes, I have a problem.
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Gmanjoe, a word of advice. try to save those images in PNG format or at least GIF since both are lossless compression. PNG preferably since its a 24 bits lossess image codec while GIF is an 8 bits lossless codec. Also, PNG is more an efficient lossless compressor than GIF.
Unless, it\'s a picture with lot of variation of colors, then lossy compressor like JPEG is more efficient at reducing the image size, but at the cost of degration.
Paul, you have to be the smartest retarded kid I know
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why is that?
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gman i was trying to read the story but noticed you didn\'t save it in PNG format so it kept throwing me off. please be more careful next time
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wow. LOL. interesting story.
Gmanjoe, a word of advice. try to save those images in PNG format or at least GIF since both are lossless compression. PNG preferably since its a 24 bits lossess image codec while GIF is an 8 bits lossless codec. Also, PNG is more an efficient lossless compressor than GIF.
Unless, it\'s a picture with lot of variation of colors, then lossy compressor like JPEG is more efficient at reducing the image size, but at the cost of degration.
Or he could\'ve just displayed the image at a higher quality...
gman i was trying to read the story but noticed you didn\'t save it in PNG format so it kept throwing me off. please be more careful next time
*buh dum pshh*
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I want to read it, but can\'t.. Stupid format. Just way too blurry. I recommend PNG or Gif, because it\'s a loselss format, but then again a lossy compressior like Jpeg is more efficient at reducing the image size, but at the cost of degration.
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You\'re killin\' me lately, LIC. XD
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Paul, I found your online girlfriend:
I think things got all confused along the line.
What I originally meant was that people don\'t use PNG
quite often despite the fact it is an amazing format.
Probably from lack of knowledge, (they might not have
heard of it etc) but I love PNG and use it an awful
lot.
I then kind of got side tracked, I get kind of annoyed
when people send me JPEG\'s of text because JPEG is
very bad at handling text, it makes it go all fuzzy
and nasty. Of course the best format for text, is a
.txt file! Or if it is a HTML page, then a .HTM file!
As you all point out
I find getting a .JPG of screenshots and the like
worse than getting a gif, because I can convert the
gif to a nice PNG (Yay!) and quitely send it on it\'s
way. Once it\'s a JPG theres not a lot I can do because
JPEG is a lossy format and I\'ve lost all the
information.
You can of course make the files less lossy (although
the kind of people sending me jpegs probably don\'t
know that anyway) but then you run into the problem
that although jpegs support millions of colours, they
ONLY support millions of colours, so then you end up
with pointlessly big files (at least for things like
screenshots and drawings).
Lets face it PNG is a wonderful format!
I think other people will use PNG more and more too,
but it will take time.
One thing I should point out about JPEG\'s, much as I
love them and use them lots for photo\'s and other fun,
we should all be aware that they ARE covered by
patents, it\'s just that at the moment the people who
own those patents are being nice and letting people
have fair use...at the moment...
http://www.jpeg.org/FCD15444-1.htm
Also I think the Unisys patent covers both encoding
AND decoding of gifs.
Apologies to anyone who couldn\'t follow my bizzare
drifting to related subjects, and thankyou to all
those who knew what I meant! (That always makes me
feel better and I know I\'m in the company of sharp
people!) :)
love
Freya
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I want to read it, but can\'t.. Stupid format. Just way too blurry. I recommend PNG or Gif, because it\'s a loselss format, but then again a lossy compressior like Jpeg is more efficient at reducing the image size, but at the cost of degration.
LOL. THX was much more funnier than your are on this one.
LIC,
You are trying too hard to be funny on this one. First, the reason why it was blurry was that the resolution isn\'t that high for small text.
you\'re wrong when you say lossy compressor is more efficient at reducing image size because both GIF and PNG can reduce just as much or more efficient than JPEG when it comes to compressing picture with little variation of color on it. So, PNG have two benefits here. Save a lot of space as much as in the 100 times or more than the original, and no compression artifacts whatsoever. Just like the original pic.
let me gives you two picture comparisons as an example between jpeg and png. *both png and JPEG is compressed using microsoft paintbrush software here*
The top picture was saved in png. and as you can see, its only use roughly 31 Kbytes.
The bottom picture was saved in JPEG. And use about 73 Kbytes.
Did you guys see that? PNG uses less data than jpeg, but looks 100% like the original while JPEG look drab. color red look too drab on jpeg, and if you zoom in, you will notice a lot of noticeable mosquite noises around the text, smiley, menu arts, etc. on the jpeg. but png look just as like the original. pure lossless picture with no compression artifacts.
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I know I\'ve asked this before, but I guess I need to ask again.
Did you smoke crack before you posted that?
Oh and
you\'re wrong when you say lossy compressor is more efficient at reducing image size because both GIF and PNG can reduce just as much or more efficient than JPEG when it comes to compressing picture with little variation of color on it.
Read my post again. Read your original post again.
I quoted what you said.
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Here are two pictures comparison where I zoomed in 6 times and cut and arranged the image of a jpeg format and a png format. Both of these are then saved in png to make it a fair and better comparison.
If i were to saved a jpeg pic in jpeg format again, it will reduce the quality some more as lossy compressing something that is already compressed will degrade the quality more.
That\'s why I saved both in png. As you can see, the png has no compression artifacts, while jpeg have a lot of mosquite noises around text, smiley, etc. mosquite noises are like graininess and color smudge of a picture.
First pic is 6x zoom of a png image and second is a 6x zoom of a jpeg image. Both were then later saved in png. funny thing is the already saved png image has only 20.7 Kbytes of require space while the already saved jpeg has 46.5 kbytes when save it in png. this is dued to the mosquite noises make up more varation of color on pic of the jpeg image, so require more space when saving it png format.
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WTF Paul? LIC is right. You must be on some potent crack. Here\'s that same image as a JPG ~>
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All you do is save the JPG at a higher quality and you don\'t get "artifacts". Do you know why your comparison is fucking retarded? Because we\'re all using broadband and it doesn\'t fucking matter anyway. Holy shit.
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I know I\'ve asked this before, but I guess I need to ask again.
Did you smoke crack before you posted that?
Oh and
Read my post again. Read your original post again.
I quoted what you said.
No, i don\'t smoke crack. I am a nerd when it comes to these kind of thing. It\'s like an interest for me.
You didn\'t really 100% quoted what I quote though...you add some words that I didn\'t say like saving it in jpg will reduce the size a lot when compare to saving it in png which is where you are wrong...
that is only true if there is a lot of variation of color on the picture. if there a little variation of color, png wins hands down.
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:p
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Yea, I went there...A lossy compression format.
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WTF Paul? LIC is right. You must be on some potent crack. Here\'s that same image as a JPG ~>
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All you do is save the JPG at a higher quality and you don\'t get "artifacts". Do you know why your comparison is fucking retarded? Because we\'re all using broadband and it doesn\'t fucking matter anyway. Holy shit.
It must have been late, and you probably didn\'t read what i wrote. [SIZE="3"]I said i zoomed in a jpeg image at 6 times the original size and then i copy that zoomed image to give you a better understanding of what it looks like when the jpeg image was blown up.[/SIZE]
you misunderstood what i did. sigh like you usually where. remember the time when you called me crack fiend and you made up some number about how many bits are there in a byte because of your misconception? Again, read what I wrote previously and you may understand better.
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I\'ll keep that in mind, Paul. Just in case I ever want to blow up a picture x6 times it\'s original size.
Thanks!
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I\'ll keep that in mind, Paul. Just in case I ever want to blow up a picture x6 times it\'s original size.
Thanks!
Yeah, no shit.
Paul...we all fucking know what PNG and JPG are. You can end your OCD now. I\'m just testing you to see how many times you can explain the same fucking thing over and over again.
remember the time when you called me crack fiend and you made up some number about how many bits are there in a byte because of your misconception?
:rofl:
Do you like secretly write down trivial and pointless moments in your life where you get to fully stretch your OCD? Do you write these things on little notes and keep them in your secret OCD box? No I don\'t remember that. LOL. Holy fuck, you\'re nuts.
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Paul, I like you. I really do, but I think you spend way to much time worrying about PNG, Gif or Jpegs. Now, normally, I\'d advise you to go out and get laid, but I don\'t see that happening, so I am going to do the next best thing.. Take my advice and go here.
http://www.jackinworld.com/
Pass the time. Relax.
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I\'ll keep that in mind, Paul. Just in case I ever want to blow up a picture x6 times it\'s original size.
Thanks!
i understand why you say that. JPG or PNG or uncompressed without blowing it up will be hardly noticable and since its the internet, it shouldn\'t matter.
I respect that opinion of yours, i didn\'t say you have to do it nor did i force to do it. I am just suggesting it so you guys can decide what you want. Geez.
Again, its just that i am an audio, video, computer enthusiast and i just like it at the best performance, quality, etc...
everybody have different hobbies, and your hobbies are different than mine. that is why you don\'t care if a basic image is in png or jpeg. i respect because again, you have different interest and hobbies than mine.
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What\'s better, GIF or JPEG?
(it\'s a joke, please don\'t answer ;))
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Paul, I like you. I really do, but I think you spend way to much time worrying about PNG, Gif or Jpegs. Now, normally, I\'d advise you to go out and get laid, but I don\'t see that happening, so I am going to do the next best thing.. Take my advice and go here.
http://www.jackinworld.com/
Pass the time. Relax.
cool. Its just that i am too much of a nerd i suppose. :D
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Do you write these things on little notes and keep them in your secret OCD box? No I don\'t remember that. LOL. Holy fuck, you\'re nuts.
I think its back in early 2005 when i said something about 54 mbits equal 6.75 Mbytes.
Then you called me crack fiend, and you said its 11 Mbytes. But it turns out you were wrong because of your misconception.
Added: No, I don\'t write notes about those events. I have good memory and its just that I happened to remember that part because you falsely accused me and that\'s why i remember.
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Paul...I think you should see a therapist. If it makes you feel better, I know the difference now. You can rest easy.
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I think its back in early 2005 when i said something about 54 mbits equal 6.75 Mbytes.
Then you called me crack fiend, and said its 11 Mbytes. But it turns out you were wrong because of your misconception.
So, what would how many PNG files could we get out of 11Mbytes?
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Paul...I think you should see a therapist. If it makes you feel better, I know the difference now. You can rest easy.
No need, its nothing major to see a therapist on. Its just how i am, when i am being misunderstood or falsedly accused, i felt like i need to clear that up. You done nothing bad that affect me negatively for me to see a therapist.
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This has nothing to do with that. But it\'s okay. *pat pat*
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No need, its nothing major to see a therapist on. Its just how i am, when i am being misunderstood or falsedly accused, i felt like i need to clear that up. You done nothing bad that affect me negatively for me to see a therapist.
im actually the same way. But I\'m also too lazy to type a bunch of stuff
I have a perfect equilibrium between having OCD and being extremely lazy. Should see me in my daily life...
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PWN3D
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what happened there? did gmanjoe deleted that image?
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I think he just sucks at the internet.
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Yea, I went there...A lossy compression format.
Wow. The rules of physics in that image are incredible :laughing:
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his arse looks like prince charles\' ears
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are we done with the ownage?
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for fuck\' sake.... the guy at the left (brown pants, black sweater) of the picture is wanking it bigtime :ohnoes:
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this thread sooo reminds me of mm
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you misunderstood what i did. sigh like you usually where. remember the time when you called me crack fiend and you made up some number about how many bits are there in a byte because of your misconception? Again, read what I wrote previously and you may understand better.
Only a crack fiend would bring up something like that
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only a true crack fiend would say something like that.
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Except you\'re the one who smokes crack
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Except you\'re the one who smokes crack
hohohooooo..you guys are getting out of hand!
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Your mom goes to college.
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Except you\'re the one who smokes crack
In your imagination that is. You see how crack can cause you to have such hallucination?
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I feel like I\'m reading two retards trying to make comebacks to each other.
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Evi,
don\'t acts like you are smarter than us. If you are, you wouldn\'t have the wrong assumption that I was wrong on what said and try to disprove it.
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Hey paul, I\'ve noticed you\'ve been in an extra asshole mood lately. What\'s going on? Down in the dumps lately?
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Evi,
don\'t acts like you are smarter than us. If you are, you wouldn\'t have the wrong assumption that I was wrong on what said and try to disprove it.
Translation: DURRrrRr!
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So that makes us 3 retards trying to make combacks at each other then?
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that one was pretty good but..you had so much ground to make up...
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So that makes us 3 retards trying to make combacks at each other then?
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For once, I honestly have nothing else to add to this thread of nonsense.
Let the fighting continue!
:fighting:
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Quit hijacking my threads! If you don\'t stop, I\'ll rip off my testicles! :mad:
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That\'s not reason enough to stop.
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good thing i was on vacation and didn\'t miss anything funny...
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Yeah, good thing.