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Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Samwise on October 27, 2007, 04:35:24 AM
Looks like a very nice card for the money. Now we just need a better cooler. ;)

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1210/msi_geforce_nx8800gt_512mb_graphics_card/index.html

I can\'t wait to see the updated GTS and AMD\'s offerings as well.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on October 27, 2007, 01:58:33 PM
You\'d be crazy to get one of these.  That is, if you want to run tommorw\'s games, people are already struggling with Crysis on 8800GTX and Ultra\'s (mine runs it around 30fps, with everything on medium, \'cept textures, which I run on HIGH).;
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 27, 2007, 02:30:34 PM
On your new super computer you only have textures on high?

I have half of the things on high and half on medium and i have a 7900GT and an athlon 64 dual 4200+. Theres a bit of stuttering in some places, so if i turn one more thing down on medium it\'d be perfect, but Ill take the bits of stuttering..it\'s weird because it happens in cutscenes and when im just walking, but its never stuttered when fighting.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Knotter8 on October 27, 2007, 04:29:25 PM
@ 1024 x 768 my X1900XTX does about 35 fps with shaders & post effects on high, the rest on medium, particle effects the only one on low.

Of course... this is just DX9 mode, so the GF8800 cards are taking a bigger workload with DX10 fx.

Although I\'m not such an fps player, i really like this game. The melee gameplay with the nanosuit is pretty cool ; especially, throwing big objects.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Samwise on October 27, 2007, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea
You\'d be crazy to get one of these.  That is, if you want to run tommorw\'s games, people are already struggling with Crysis on 8800GTX and Ultra\'s (mine runs it around 30fps, with everything on medium, \'cept textures, which I run on HIGH).;

Well consider me crazy then because I\'m getting one. There\'s no way in hell I\'m spending $600+ on a gfx card and I don\'t really care about Crysis anyway.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on October 27, 2007, 11:36:59 PM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
On your new super computer you only have textures on high?

I have half of the things on high and half on medium and i have a 7900GT and an athlon 64 dual 4200+. Theres a bit of stuttering in some places, so if i turn one more thing down on medium it\'d be perfect, but Ill take the bits of stuttering..it\'s weird because it happens in cutscenes and when im just walking, but its never stuttered when fighting.


Well, I haven\'t tried really. I\'m working nights, woke up this afternoon about 45 mintues before work, installed the demo, tried it out. I\'ve never completed the demo.  When I get home in the mornin\', I\'ll give it a more expansive look over.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Paul2 on October 27, 2007, 11:52:09 PM
its interesting on how some of you can spend $500 or more on just a graphic card, but some of you guys can\'t seem to afford or bother to spend that amount on a ps3.  I am not sure why it isn\'t worth it for a ps3 where it have many features like hard disk drive, blu ray, etc., but its worth it for a just graphic card.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on October 28, 2007, 01:36:29 AM
Quote from: Paul2
its interesting on how some of you can spend $500 or more on just a graphic card, but some of you guys can\'t seem to afford or bother to spend that amount on a ps3.  I am not sure why it isn\'t worth it for a ps3 where it have many features like hard disk drive, blu ray, etc., but its worth it for a just graphic card.


Your first mistake is assuming we can\'t afford it . In my case, I simply don\'t want a PS3, I don\'t see a compelling reason to buy one. I had a reason to spend money on a high end videocard. It all boils down to reasons, I\'ve yet to see a reason to buy the PS3. Much like I never saw a reason to buy a nice camera or camcorder, but since I\'ve had my kids, I\'ve bought a nice camera and about to buy a nice camcorder.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Paul2 on October 28, 2007, 07:25:15 AM
well, the blu ray playback is a great reason alone to get the ps3.  its the cheapest, but its load the disc the fastest than a stand-a-lone blu ray player.  it took 1 minute or longer to boot up a blu ray disc on a blu ray player, while on the ps3, its much faster.  as fast as as 10 seconds or so.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Samwise on October 28, 2007, 08:05:46 AM
BTW Raz, in this test (http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=198950 (http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=198950)) the 8800 GT is only a few fps slower than even an Ultra in Crysis @ 1680x1050 (my screen resolution). No way I\'ll pay $3-400 more for a few fps. :)
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: THX on October 28, 2007, 09:59:12 AM
Sammy if you aren\'t spending AT LEAST $600 for a video card then you are a fvcking tool

edit- Sammy just an fyi but those test results where under Xp SP2, so dx9

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1211/crysis_demo_performance_analysis/index.html
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Samwise on October 28, 2007, 10:23:28 AM
Doesn\'t matter to me. I\'m not running Vista any time in the near future. :)
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on October 28, 2007, 03:37:31 PM
Quote from: Paul2
well, the blu ray playback is a great reason alone to get the ps3.  its the cheapest, but its load the disc the fastest than a stand-a-lone blu ray player.  it took 1 minute or longer to boot up a blu ray disc on a blu ray player, while on the ps3, its much faster.  as fast as as 10 seconds or so.


Provided you give a rat\'s ass about Blu-Ray.. I have an HD DVD and while it was nice for a few moments, I then realized that high defs movies are simply not worth the money.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Paul2 on October 28, 2007, 05:26:37 PM
to each their own.  I can\'t see why High Def movies aren\'t worth it.  Then if it\'s not worth it, what\'s the point of HDTVs and watching high def source on them?  Like playing games in High Def on an HDTV makes sense.

Unless you don\'t have an hdtv yet and aren\'t planning on buying one anytime soon.  Then I can understand.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 28, 2007, 05:43:18 PM
because dvd\'s still look good on hdtv\'s

i heard walmart is selling that toshiba hd-dvd player for 200 but im still not buying into it. plus I think blu-ray is going to win, even though the whole paramount going to hd-dvd will drag it on.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Paul2 on October 28, 2007, 06:00:33 PM
dvd also looks really good on standard TV.

Unless of course, he doesn\'t have an hdtv, because it seems like he is willing to spend as much as $500 for graphic card, but not on a ps3.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 28, 2007, 06:02:40 PM
but...even if he does have an hdtv, because dvd\'s still look good on hdtv\'s than HD movies arent worth it.

not to mention that LIC seems a little smarter than to buy an hd-dvd player and not have an hdtv..
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Paul2 on October 28, 2007, 06:12:18 PM
but he said he can afford the ps3 if he wants to buy one.  He said the PS3 still doesn\'t have a good reason for him to get one.

I guess he isn\'t into HD picture as much as he into computer online video gaming.  So, he rather spends his money on an expensive graphic card than on a console that don\'t have games that excite him enough to get one yet.  And blu ray won\'t do it as he is okay with dvd picture on hdtv for time being.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 28, 2007, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Paul2
but he said he can afford the ps3 if he wants to buy one.  He said the PS3 still doesn\'t have a good reason for him to get one.


how does that counter anything i said? he can afford a ps3, the ps3 doesnt have games, and hd movies arent 500 bucks greater than dvd, so he bought a computer instead of a ps3...
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Paul2 on October 28, 2007, 06:22:39 PM
i didn\'t try to counter what you said.  i was questioning why this but not that...more of a curiosity thing.

And i give my reasons and explanations.  and you gives your too.

that was kind of misleading when you said hd movies arent 500 bucks greater than dvd, so he bought a computer instead of a ps3...

Actually, he spent more than $500 for the whole package computer.  The graphic card alone is cost at $400ish or something if i recalled his thread about upgrading to a computer.  And everything else for the for whole computer is like total $1,000 or so...
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on October 28, 2007, 07:15:10 PM
Paul..

Shut the hell up.

You\'re just rambling, buddy.  I said it all comes down to reasons, I don\'t see a single compelling reason to own the PS3 at this point and time.  What is hard about that to understand?

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I can\'t see why High Def movies aren\'t worth it. Then if it\'s not worth it, what\'s the point of HDTVs and watching high def source on them?

I watch movie\'s once most the time. Just like I almost bought into HD satellite, but decided  that I don\'t watch enough TV to warrant the extra cost.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Paul2 on October 28, 2007, 07:33:50 PM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea


I watch movie\'s once most the time. Just like I almost bought into HD satellite, but decided  that I don\'t watch enough TV to warrant the extra cost.

that explain things clearer.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Knotter8 on October 29, 2007, 12:19:20 AM
Still.... i hope Ati\'s next card is going to bring some REAL competition to Nvidia so overall prices will go down.
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Samwise on October 29, 2007, 02:45:37 AM
I hope so too. But Nvidia already lowered their prices for 8800GT according to rumors. They originally wanted to sell it at $299. So yay for AMD!
Title: 8800GT review
Post by: Knotter8 on October 29, 2007, 04:42:38 AM
Radeon HD3800 with GI rendering ? Sounds good ..http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=472 (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=472)