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Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: GmanJoe on October 29, 2007, 05:02:49 AM
I got it, haven\'t played it yet. This thread is reserved for the massive accolades I will adorn upon this game. If the hype is even 1/4 close to the truth about pixar like graphics, I will blow my money shot on Raz\'s open mouth and punch him in the nose (this is called the Bismarck - see definition #3 (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bismarck))
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: BizioEE on October 29, 2007, 07:14:00 AM
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932369.asp
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: fastson on October 29, 2007, 11:11:37 AM
I got the game today. Geez, this is a really great game if you\'re a Ratchet fan. Awesome weapons, same great humour, fantastic graphics etc.

Really, Insomniac delivers yet another AAA title.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: BizioEE on October 30, 2007, 02:07:21 AM
May you tell me something more about this game as you play more ?
Thanks in advanced ! :)

PS: I know we have all these review...but your point of you would be very wellcome !
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: mm on October 30, 2007, 03:59:46 AM
stupid gamespot ><
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: GmanJoe on October 30, 2007, 04:44:21 AM
Just started R&C last night. It\'s quite fun (my first R&C game).  Amazing graphics. I can\'t believe it\'s on par with the cut scenes. Wish I had a better TV to really appreciate the graphics better. I love the rather ingenius switch to 2D traditional platform jumping! :laughing: It reminds me a bit of the old Super Mario 3!
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: THX on October 30, 2007, 07:59:21 PM
Holy shiz is that our very own Aaron giving the game a 7.5 ???

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/ratchetclank/review.html

He\'s not very net popular right now...
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Halberto on October 30, 2007, 10:18:09 PM
No way, the Aaron with the pacman avatar?
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Samwise on October 30, 2007, 10:24:27 PM
Aaron is a fanboy!!! hehe
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: GmanJoe on October 31, 2007, 04:00:52 AM
Ban Him! ;)
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: BizioEE on October 31, 2007, 05:36:01 AM
Quote

Review Score Average :

100
GamePro

An amazing PS3 game that fully leverages the power of the console. It sets the bar high for not only the series but for all PS3 games to come. It is, without a doubt, reason enough to buy the system.

100
GameTap

It\'s rare that a game critic feels the way I do about this game, but in all honesty, I find it really difficult to find something that\'s not to like. The controls feel great. The graphics look great. The score sounds great. The weapon selection alone make me want to play the game over and over again, just to test out all the cool offered.

95
PSM Magazine

Combines absolutely jaw-dropping graphics with familiar platforming/shooting mechanics and genuinely funny humor to make one of the PS3\'s few true masterpieces. [Dec 2007, p.66]

95
GamerNode

In Tools of Destruction, Insomniac is back doing what they do best, and they do it better than ever, This is the best Ratchet & Clank adventure to date, and at this point the best game the PS3 has to offer.

94
IGN

Not only has it supplanted Going Commando as the best title in the franchise, it\'s also the best game of any series on the PlayStation 3 thus far -- and that\'s saying a lot when you\'re up against Oblivion, Ninja Gaiden, Warhawk and Insomniac\'s very own previous effort, Resistance: Fall of Man.

93
PSM3 Magazine UK

Intense, beautiful and accessible. A return to the series\' roots and a stellar game indeed. [Nov 2007, p.22]

93
GameZone

Tools of Destruction feels a bit short at times, but that is only when you are just driving through the game, going from point A to point B in the shortest route possible. When you take time to explore, you realize how expansive this game is, and how wonderfully designed.

93
Game Informer

It succeeds simply by delivering gameplay that’s perfectly executed along with a story that lovingly advances the saga of characters I’ve known and loved for years. Could it have done more to push the envelope? Sure, but that’s not what I’ll think of when I remember playing this game. I’m just going to remember all the fun I had – and that’s the point, isn’t it?

91
Gaming Age

It has the beautiful next-gen visuals, new weapons and gadgets and even some well-implemented motion controlled segments, though overall it does nothing out of the ordinary or unexpected. It\'s an enjoyable, beautiful ride that just seems kind of familiar in the end.

90
Pro-G

Whether you\'re a platformer fan or fancy some frenetic blasting action, Tools of Destruction fits the bill. Combine the enjoyable gameplay (that\'s fun for all ages) with some of the best visuals the PS3 has seen and you have a game that every PS3 owner should own.

90
GameTrailers

The size and scale of these environments are incredible, with so much little detail going on in the background and no loading time once you\'ve entered a level. It\'s definitely the best-looking PS3 game on the market.

90
Games Radar

Ratchet & Clank Future isn\'t a revolution, but it is a marvelously kickass game that\'ll keep you entertained for hours as you plumb the depths of its huge levels, find creative ways to blow up its monsters and try to ferret out all its dozens of cleverly hidden items.

90
Game Almighty

The outstanding combination of tight gameplay and a first-rate presentation make it a great game.

90
PSX Extreme

This is visually one of the best looking games on the market. And with an engine that\'s gunning it at 60 frames per second, and capable of 1080i upscaled, R&C Future is also running on one of the best engines, as well. The gameplay is precisely what we\'ve all come to love, except louder, more heated, more energetic, more fun, and with all new gameplay mechanics added to the mix.


...1UP, GameSpy and GameSpot don\'t even deserve to appear...they are biased garbage for me....
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Phil on October 31, 2007, 05:47:43 AM
Why?  Because they dare give an opinion contrary to your own?


If you base a game based off of some nerds review online you\'re an idiot.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: GmanJoe on October 31, 2007, 05:49:24 AM
Quote from: Phil
Why?  Because they dare give an opinion contrary to your own?


If you base a game based off of some nerds review online you\'re an idiot.


I was kidding about banning him. But YOU should be. ;)

And the STEELERS RULE!
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Phil on October 31, 2007, 05:55:25 AM
And the Bengals are back to doing what they do best.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: GmanJoe on October 31, 2007, 06:01:17 AM
Losing to the Steelers? :laughing:
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Phil on October 31, 2007, 08:48:27 AM
Oh no, not just the steelers, to just about everyone.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: mm on October 31, 2007, 01:55:04 PM
i beleive gamespot gave a shitty review which was contrary to everyone else just to gain more traffic.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 31, 2007, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: BizioEE
...1UP, GameSpy and GameSpot don\'t even deserve to appear...they are biased garbage for me....


and using only the good reviews isnt biased?

gamespot turned from shit to steaming shit when they changed to the .5 system. all games are rated the same now..majority of the shitty ones (simpsons) are rated 7.0, the great ones are 9.5, etc. All those games rated the same are definitly worse/better than eachother.

To me, it\'s all about what the majority of people are saying and gametrailers..that is before trying it myself and making a final decision.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on October 31, 2007, 02:41:14 PM
Quote from: mm
i beleive gamespot gave a shitty review which was contrary to everyone else just to gain more traffic.


Oh come on, that is just sad excuse.   You do realize that people review games and people have varying opinions, right? If I was to review any of the R&C series, I\'d give it an average or low score, as I haven\'t cared for a single one of them.  Just because the majority like the game, does not mean that every single reviewer must like it.

Not saying that Gamespot isn\'t shit, but I don\'t see the logic behind your statement.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: BizioEE on October 31, 2007, 03:55:06 PM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea
Oh come on, that is just sad excuse.   You do realize that people review games and people have varying opinions, right? If I was to review any of the R&C series, I\'d give it an average or low score, as I haven\'t cared for a single one of them.  Just because the majority like the game, does not mean that every single reviewer must like it.

Not saying that Gamespot isn\'t shit, but I don\'t see the logic behind your statement.


Just think about a very very nice student...14, 15 teachers say is a very nice one...a couple say is not so good...and one say is below average.

Do you think all these opinions are the same ? Do you think the real value of a student, of a game, etc can be so questionable ? And If I say GT series is crap \'cause there is no damage on cars and it deserves a 7.0, this is still an opinion ? And how much personal taste can affect a review ? If I don\'t like so much FPS and I\'m bored of all these similar shooters, it\'s still "my reliable  opinion" if I give 7.5 to a very very good shooter when all the other reviewers give it a 9.0 - 9.5 - 9.7 ?
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on October 31, 2007, 04:09:33 PM
Quote from: BizioEE
Just think about a very very nice student...14, 15 teachers say is a very nice one...a couple say is not so good...and one say is below average.

Do you think all these opinions are the same ? Do you think the real value of a student, of a game, etc can be so questionable ? And If I say GT series is crap \'cause there is no damage on cars and it deserves a 7.0, this is still an opinion ? And how much personal taste can affect a review ? If I don\'t like so much FPS and I\'m bored of all these similar shooters, it\'s still "my reliable  opinion" if I give 7.5 to a very very good shooter when all the other reviewers give it a 9.0 - 9.5 - 9.7 ?

Personal taste can affect a review and it should. Why? Because humans review these games. The same can be said for any media, it all boils down to personal taste. The only big deal is the fact that when a semi-negative review rolls around, everyone wants to make up excuses for it, as opposed to saying, "oh, I guess he just didn\'t like it".  Hell, if every reviewer said the same thing, then why even bother reading more than one? I know there are some reviewers, that have similar taste as I, and I tend to read and go by their reviews.

Oh and the GT is crap, I.M.O.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Phil on October 31, 2007, 04:42:21 PM
Quote from: BizioEE
Just think about a very very nice student...14, 15 teachers say is a very nice one...a couple say is not so good...and one say is below average.

Do you think all these opinions are the same ? Do you think the real value of a student, of a game, etc can be so questionable ? And If I say GT series is crap \'cause there is no damage on cars and it deserves a 7.0, this is still an opinion ? And how much personal taste can affect a review ? If I don\'t like so much FPS and I\'m bored of all these similar shooters, it\'s still "my reliable  opinion" if I give 7.5 to a very very good shooter when all the other reviewers give it a 9.0 - 9.5 - 9.7 ?

Value of a game is based on ones own personal taste therefore some strangers review of the game is completely pointless.  There are plenty of games that got mediocre reviews that I thought were a complete blast and I\'m certainly glad I diddn\'t take some journalists point of view as my own.  On the flip side, I got bored with GT4 after a day.

There are demos for a reason.

And the teacher that says the student is bad, which by the way is a terrible analogy, probably caught the student doing something incredibly stupid and has every right to think he\'s a shitty student.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: mm on October 31, 2007, 05:58:17 PM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea
Oh come on, that is just sad excuse.   You do realize that people review games and people have varying opinions, right? If I was to review any of the R&C series, I\'d give it an average or low score, as I haven\'t cared for a single one of them.  Just because the majority like the game, does not mean that every single reviewer must like it.

Not saying that Gamespot isn\'t shit, but I don\'t see the logic behind your statement.



that would make you biased since you didn\'t like it before even playing......just like the gamespot review.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on October 31, 2007, 05:59:59 PM
Quote from: Phil
Value of a game is based on ones own personal taste therefore some strangers review of the game is completely pointless.  There are plenty of games that got mediocre reviews that I thought were a complete blast and I\'m certainly glad I diddn\'t take some journalists point of view as my own.  On the flip side, I got bored with GT4 after a day.

There are demos for a reason.

And the teacher that says the student is bad, which by the way is a terrible analogy, probably caught the student doing something incredibly stupid and has every right to think he\'s a shitty student.


Thank you for the welcome injection of common sense.
:thumb:
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: BizioEE on November 01, 2007, 01:41:35 AM
Quote from: Phil
Value of a game is based on ones own personal taste therefore some strangers review of the game is completely pointless.  There are plenty of games that got mediocre reviews that I thought were a complete blast and I\'m certainly glad I diddn\'t take some journalists point of view as my own.  On the flip side, I got bored with GT4 after a day.

There are demos for a reason.

And the teacher that says the student is bad, which by the way is a terrible analogy, probably caught the student doing something incredibly stupid and has every right to think he\'s a shitty student.


One of these two points :

1) you din\'t read my post.

2) you didn\'t understand my point.

Quote
And how much personal taste can affect a review ?


This question does mean, for you, that personal taste cannot affect a review ?

You din\'t get my point...so read again or open your mind...:) ...or both...
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: fastson on November 01, 2007, 03:25:07 AM
Ok, I\'ve managed to clear a few plants. Simple review without the cuntiness : Aw ma gawd. Its so much fun, looks amazing, runs amazing, so many new usefull weapons. Zephyr (the robot form of Breakbox threeshitty) and Cronk (the robot form of AwesomeStation 3) are good fun, poking at each other all the time (Cronk dissing how Zephyr breaks down all the time, Zephyr making fun of Cronk having all that storage capacity filled with garbage etc)

Insomniac with yet another hit, great studio.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: Phil on November 01, 2007, 05:56:44 AM
Quote from: BizioEE
One of these two points :

1) you din\'t read my post.

2) you didn\'t understand my point.



Actually it is quite apparent you didn\'t get my point.  There is no doubt that since the majority of the reviewers and customers seem to be overwhelmingly happy with the game that I would probably enjoy it and think its a great game.  But who knows, maybe I share the same mindset as the people that gave it average reviews, I don\'t really know.  Reviews are pointless because you don\'t know the motivating factors behind the review and you don\'t know that persons personal taste.  

In other words you can\'t objectively rate a video game on an arbitrary scale because the qualities of game that give it its value is inherently subjective.
Title: Ratchet and Clank
Post by: GmanJoe on November 01, 2007, 06:05:34 AM
Lemme say this: I DO NOT LIKE FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS.

However, since I got the PS3 and Resistance was about the only good game available, I tried it. I LOVED IT! But that is the last FPS I\'ll ever buy because now I have more choices. So, if I was to rate a few games that weren\'t my taste, I think I would still be quite objective regardless of my gaming preference and prejudices.

Objectivity is hard to find from reviewers these days especially since a lot of them are panning anyting about PS3.