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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: clips on December 07, 2007, 11:41:05 PM
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Nice...:fro:
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/1671.html
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Indeed!
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another comparison...360/Ps3....
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/1671.html
I see virtually no difference....especially coming towards the end with the giant fire demon...capcom is doing a fine job with both consoles....there were some spots in the beginning where it looks like the ps3 version was slightly washed out, but you really have to look hard to see that.....aside from the bang-up job they givin lost planet,...i think i\'ll forgive them if this turns out to be stellar,...but i was still expecting a halfway decent port of lost planet,...hopefully they\'ll tighten that sloppy port up, cause i still have some interest in that title....
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interesting comparison. the A/B comparison in some scenes goes too fast. good thing there is a pause function. both versions seems to have solid and smooth frame rate too.
the difference is nearly indisgushable. Except, closer inspection, the xbox360 seems to have better texture in some scenes like the background than the ps3...especially in the beginning of the video clip where is shows the buildings models...
at the end of the video clip where there is a fire dragon demon like creature walking by. i think the xbox360 reveals more texture on that dragon demon than on the ps3...hard to tell because of the compression artifacts though....
but again, the difference between the two is slight though...
makes me curious, which console did capcom created this game first and which one was ported?
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It seems that the output they have for the PS3 needs some "calibration". There are lots of titles that looked blurrier and more washed out than they really are.
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It seems that the output they have for the PS3 needs some "calibration". There are lots of titles that looked blurrier and more washed out than they really are.
I don\'t know about that uni...for the most part 360 games have almost always had better textures than the ps3....maybe it has to do with the fact that the 360 is just easier to program on and it\'s easier to max out those textures than it is on the ps3....and i understand that it\'s possible that gametrailers probably taped the ps3 version a certain way....but i don\'t think that they would do something like that purposely just so the 360 version looks better...
It\'s no big deal tho both games look great, and for the most part it\'s just like last gen...most xbox games looked better than ps2 games, up until a few years ago where some ps2 games finally started to look as good or better than xbox games..(god of war/god of war2)
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I am not saying they are doing it on purpose. Its just that I ve seen lots of PS3 vs 360 comparisons that showed a very bad image on the PS3 while I ve seen the same games on standard definition TVs and looked much much better.
Also the difference on the DMC3 vid is so small that it looks like it doesnt have anything to do with any differences in quality due to porting. There are many instances especially where there are lighting effects, that highlight the normal maps better and they look identical. The whole image looks generally greyer as if it is something with the contrast. Thats why probably anything up close looks identcial while everything starts to look less crisp in the distances. If you check the slose up cutscene the image is indistinguishable, even at the smallest texture.
Actually I am 100% sure that they are perfectly identical in every way
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I am not saying they are doing it on purpose. Its just that I ve seen lots of PS3 vs 360 comparisons that showed a very bad image on the PS3 while I ve seen the same games on standard definition TVs and looked much much better.
Also the difference on the DMC3 vid is so small that it looks like it doesnt have anything to do with any differences in quality due to porting. There are many instances especially where there are lighting effects, that highlight the normal maps better and they look identical. The whole image looks generally greyer as if it is something with the contrast. Thats why probably anything up close looks identcial while everything starts to look less crisp in the distances. If you check the slose up cutscene the image is indistinguishable, even at the smallest texture.
Actually I am 100% sure that they are perfectly identical in every way
maybe you should start comparing on hdtv\'s then...
as for the rest of your post I can only say: Fanboy in denial... how can you be 100% sure? oh that\'s right, you can\'t...
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maybe you should start comparing on hdtv\'s then...
as for the rest of your post I can only say: Fanboy in denial... how can you be 100% sure? oh that\'s right, you can\'t...
Fanboy desperate to rant.....
You missed the point totally. PS3 footage generally at gametraillers show washed out and blurry visuals while even a crap TV that isnt even HD showed brighter, better colors and crispier textures. The difference is very noticable. A HD TV shows even better results and a totally different image than what gametrailers suggest.
I can be 100% sure because there is nothing that indicates to otherwise. Reports say that they are identical
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I can be 100% sure because there is nothing that indicates to otherwise. Reports say that they are identical
you\'re right, having not even seen the game running for yourself it\'s possible to be 100% sure about its looks. I\'m ashamed of myself...
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you\'re right, having not even seen the game running for yourself it\'s possible to be 100% sure about its looks. I\'m ashamed of myself...
Ofcourse you should. Especially when you are calling others "fanboys in denial" when you didnt see it either to even know what they are in denial for.
In the meantime I have enough information to make ME 100% sure and confident. If you are so annoyied by this so be it. I dont care.
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Here we go again. It\'s always a bad calibration or some giant conspiracy.
It could look like fuckin\' pong and you\'d still have "enough information" to make you a "100% sure and confident". Fanboys are like that.
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It could look exactly the same on both consoles, or have a smaller difference than suggested by GT, and still be fucking pissed because someone states things as they are instead of ranting and dissing the PS3 as if it looks like "pong" on it. Fanboys are like that.
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Actually, no one done that. The only person jumping on it, was you. Everyone else just notices and points out the small differences.
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Oh yeah? Actually some do get pissed when someone states things as they are. Thats why the existence of your reply.
I just pointed that the difference may not be there, and in the other occasions (like in Assasins Creed) that the difference is smaller than suggested.
But as always that annoys you.
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I\'m not annoyed. I\'m amused. Amused on how stupid you are.
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well the problem could be ppl are using the 360 first when capturing and leaving the settings they had preferred on that console aka brightening the picture since most times 360 image is darker aka oblivion!!! and therefore when they hook up ps3 it become washed out!!! see i figured it out
/sarcasm
really i still go on arguement of who cares - if you need comparisons to make yourself reassured that your console is better then this one then go for it.., the whole console wars is so childish now
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Sublime,
interesting points there, but i doubt it because those footages look like it was captured and edited by Capcom themeselves and probably sent it to GT. I doubt GT can actually do split screen of the two console versions of the game of the exact same scene in motion...you know, splitting half top or half left of this exact scene for ps3 while half bottom or half right of this exact same scene for xbox360.
It would makes sense that Capcom did the comparison since they developed and programmed the game, and since the game isn\'t finished yet for release. I doubt GT has the game already to even capture it and do a side by side comparison...
so, that might means the comparison should be really fair...
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Sublime,
interesting points there, but i doubt it because those footages look like it was captured and edited by Capcom themeselves and probably sent it to GT. I doubt GT can actually do split screen of the two console versions of the game of the exact same scene in motion...you know, splitting half top or half left of this exact scene for ps3 while half bottom or half right of this exact same scene for xbox360.
It would makes sense that Capcom did the comparison since they developed and programmed the game, and since the game isn\'t finished yet for release. I doubt GT has the game already to even capture it and do a side by side comparison...
so, that might means the comparison should be really fair...
capcom wouldnt touch something liek that with a 10 foot poll. having a comparison could make one of the two look worse, and they wouldnt make their own product look bad in any shape, way or form. to them, both products are identical and perfect (as in how they want the public to look at it)
GT is a pretty big website that can hire some skilled people. It wouldnt be TOO difficult to play a game twice as similarly as possible and do some editing. Plus theyve done it for a bunch of games..not just one company\'s
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I\'m not annoyed. I\'m amused. Amused on how stupid you are.
It is already known that you need someone that doesnt diss the PS3, like me to add some amusement in your life.
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Sublime,
interesting points there, but i doubt it because those footages look like it was captured and edited by Capcom themeselves and probably sent it to GT. I doubt GT can actually do split screen of the two console versions of the game of the exact same scene in motion...you know, splitting half top or half left of this exact scene for ps3 while half bottom or half right of this exact same scene for xbox360.
It would makes sense that Capcom did the comparison since they developed and programmed the game, and since the game isn\'t finished yet for release. I doubt GT has the game already to even capture it and do a side by side comparison...
so, that might means the comparison should be really fair...
Nah Gametrailers does this accurate capturing with many other games as well.
Anyways. I downloaded the 720p video, print screened it at full size and cut proportions. They are identical even to the slightest detail except in very few occasions where the 360 looks better and in some others the PS3 (I was confused at which was which until I watched again the video) but this should be most likely capture inconsistencies and a few differences in colors and blurring effects.
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Its a known fact that PS3s component output is more neutral (will look more washed out) compared to 360s component output. Not something you cant fix with a proper calibration of your TV (and if you have a proper HDTV you shouldnt have a problem with having different settings on different connections), so the point really isnt a point at all.
Try jumping between component and HDMI with your PS3 on the same TV with the same settings. PS3 via component will look a bit more washed out while the HDMI-output is a perfect RGB24 picture.
Regarding the comparison. Gametrailers first captured each stream seperatly, these streams are of course encoded. Its possible they used different settings while encoding these seperate streams. This might explain the loss in detail in some scenes, I havent checked it out msyelf but I will now.
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Its possible they used different settings while encoding these seperate streams. This might explain the loss in detail in some scenes, I havent checked it out msyelf but I will now.
Anything at all to avoid the more likely of all things.
Even better is the fact you both are going out of your way to prove the PS3 version looks better or that the comparison is faulty, even when they both look friggin gorgeous.
I mean, if you want to compare something, compare something already out..
Virtua Fighter 5
Assassin\'s Creed
This digging around and editing screen captures and trying to prove that a reputable gamesite is pulling a shady one is just nonsense.
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Anything at all to avoid the more likely of all things.
Eh, the versions are identical apart from frameloss and screentearing on the 360-version. There is no other difference, check the pics.
This digging around and editing screen captures and trying to prove that a reputable gamesite is pulling a shady one is just nonsense.
Where have I said that? It could just have a been a mistake if that is what happened.
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Eh, the versions are identical apart from frameloss and screentearing on the 360-version. There is no other difference, check the pics.
Where have I said that? It could just have a been a mistake if that is what happened.
Raz is insecure. ;)
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Eh, the versions are identical apart from frameloss and screentearing on the 360-version. There is no other difference, check the pics.
Where have I said that? It could just have a been a mistake if that is what happened.
Was mostly speaking to Uni.
With that said - DMC was merely OKAY, DMC2 sucked beyond belief and DMC3 was okay. Here\'s hoping that improve upon a flawed formula.
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Here you go. I promise, no Sony bullshot filter has been applied!
Open the pics in different tabs, switch between them and see the massive massive difference.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpici.se%2Fpictures%2FcXNaXISrP.png&hash=c042c4fca0c2550f9a9d1935d888fab4af1ba27c)
http://pici.se/pictures/cXNaXISrP.png
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpici.se%2Fpictures%2FryYAjblSp.png&hash=61b02a39a4352c45a352cb32d45da20cbbdb80a1)
http://pici.se/pictures/ryYAjblSp.png
This was the only part of the video which was comparible.
*They were both semi-static
*360 version shown first, PS3 version directly after
*Little motion = no pixelation
*The video is rubbish, the bitrate is far too low to even make it a worthwhile comparison
All in all, DMC4 will rock whichever version you get. Gametrailers need to step up their comparison videos. :)
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Or do away with the comparison altogether.
What a novel idea.
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Even better is the fact you both are going out of your way to prove the PS3 version looks better or that the comparison is faulty, even when they both look friggin gorgeous.
WTF? Nobody tried to convince that the PS3 looks better. The only think we said is that DMC4 is identical.
But thats the problem with trolls like you. They assume too much when someone doesnt diss the platform they dislike
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WTF? Nobody tried to convince that the PS3 looks better. The only think we said is that DMC4 is identical.
But thats the problem with trolls like you. They assume too much when someone doesnt diss the platform they dislike
Holy shit! Pot calling kettle black.
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You are talking to yourself again
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http://www.gamesradar.com/us/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?sectionId=1006&articleId=2007122116016612075&releaseId=200609151285614010
Both are gorgeous.
Both look like snooze fests.
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I happen to love the DMC formula, I\'ll buy it for whatever system I own when it comes out. Then again, I can\'t be bothered to play super long RPG\'s any more so the only games I usually end up playing are fighting games/ beat em ups/ platformers.
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DMC 4 is better on PS3! It looks and run better on PS3 !
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/16558
An optional hard drive install will supposedly remove all load times from the game. But, be warned -- it\'s quite a hefty install at nearly 5GB. Not only will load times be shortened on the PS3, but audiophiles will be glad to hear that the PS3 version also includes 5.1 LPCM audio. There\'s also support for the PSN, although how exactly it will work is still unclear. Regardless, it makes us glad to see the PS3 version of DMC4 get extra functionality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_pulse_code_modulation
Andrew Yoon...
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5GB! Thats a huge chunk.
Regardless the game will be awesome no matter the platform. I loved 1 and 3 (hated 2 with a passion. Probably the worst game I ever purchased) and I am looking forward into owning this one as well in the future.
No other game of its genre has offered the ability to connect moves with such a freedom. 3 did it even better by giving you the option to shift weapons on the fly, even during a fight, creating your own awesome combos. ;)
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I\'ll probably end up gettin\' this...i was a fan of the first one, and of course 2 was complete garbage,...i passed on prt 3 even tho i hear it was pretty good...i guess i\'m not too big a fan of prequels...i like to see the story progress not re-gress....
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Well DMC isnt about the story. It is all about the gameplay. But still I think even storywise DMC3 is a must have for big fans, as it gives you a hint to the story of Dante\'s brother and to how you ended up fighting him as Nero Angelo in DMC1.