Will Warner Bros. Endorse Blu-ray?[/B]
Studio executive hints that dual-format policy may be changing.
By Swanni
Washington, D.C. (October 30, 2007) -- Warner Bros. has been neutral in the Blu-ray-HD DVD disc war, releasing movies in both high-def formats.
However, that policy may be changing, says a top Warner executive.
Dan Silverberg, Warner\'s vice president of High-Definition media, hinted Monday at a Blu-ray briefing for the media that the studio might soon endorse Blu-ray.
Warner is now the only major studio that releases movies in both formats; two support HD DVD exclusively while four have endorsed Blu-ray.
But Home Media Magazine reports that Silverberg believes that Blu-ray may be winning the format war and, consequently, it may be time for the studio to pick one over the other.
“One thing that may be changing is our strategy,” he said. “When both formats launched and hardware prices were high, we made a decision to support both formats and let the consumer decide. But now that hardware pricing is affordable for both Blu-ray and HD DVD, it appears consumers no longer want to decide — so the notion of staying in two formats for the duration is something we are re-evaluating now that we are in the fourth quarter.”
The Warner executive noted that Blu-ray sales have topped HD DVD by a 2-1 margin over the last nine months.
While he didn\'t come out and endorse Blu-ray, it sounded like the studio had a clear favorite if it decides to endorse one format.
“We can definitely talk Blu-ray,” he said. “We are committed to the format.”
Warner\'s decision to support Blu-ray over HD DVD could have a major impact on the high-def disc format war. Without Warner, HD DVD\'s catalogue would only include titles from two studios.
You guys hear the triple layer HD-DVD news?
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/dvd-forum-approves-51gb-hd-dvd/
Basically they added another layer and squeezed some more data pits into the disc for 51gb. Guess the extra 1 is to spite blu-ray :p
not sure if this works with current players
You guys hear the triple layer HD-DVD news?
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/dvd-forum-approves-51gb-hd-dvd/
Basically they added another layer and squeezed some more data pits into the disc for 51gb. Guess the extra 1 is to spite blu-ray :p
not sure if this works with current players
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=519621
Just so happens it is also the one of the worse ones out there.
you\'re going to get a ps3 as a BR player because it boots up the fastest? Is 2 minutes really that big of a deal for other players bootups? (i made up the number but you get my point)
can take a piss, grab some food, etc while the things booting up...should only be looking at quality/price
you\'re going to get a ps3 as a BR player because it boots up the fastest? Is 2 minutes really that big of a deal for other players bootups? (i made up the number but you get my point)
can take a piss, grab some food, etc while the things booting up...should only be looking at quality/price
A lot of players can do both now. If this ends in a stalemate, I\'ll just get that. It seems studios prefer one over the other.
huh? I\'ve only seen one that had Hd-dvd and blu-ray and it wasnt out yet.
I\'d probably get that if the price was like 300 max, and i was in a spending mood
The PS3 has the fastest bootup of any Hi Def player on the market (BR and HD DVD players
HD-DVD has support of many of the independant studios meaning the quality movies.
i guess he means crap like hot fuzz.
perhaps he doesn\'t remember when DVD players were 1000$+ and there was very little software available.
HD movies sales is 2% of the market while DVD is 97%
I wish I could find the article about how no one would buy DVDs because people already bought the movies in VHS. There was more to it...but it sounds very much like today\'s argument against Hi-Def players.
Minus the fact the market has changed and there is a ton of other variables?
I guess he means crap like hot fuzz.
:running:
MM = King of making LIC waste his time.
wow those are good prices, unfortunately most retail outlets are charging $25-$35 us depending on the movie.
As for scaling even with the best Converters it\'s meh! 32 inch and below looks Fantastic up-converted but once you move into the 42inch arena things change. Usually the movies that have a top tier mastering and transfer with good bit-rate look best scaled up. Upscaling\'s results are highly dependent on 3 things.
#1 The scaling chipset
#2 Size of your TV
#3 Viewing distance, the further away the more image looks HD(flaws become hidden)
This is too awesome. :thumb:
I was expecting the news at CES, but this is better. Toshiba&Microsoft will look very dumb now.
yea..because MS put OH so much money and effort into hd-dvd,lol. the player is a piece of shit..they just kind of threw it in there because they could
i havent invested in either..but im happy for the news since ill get a ps3 at some point..hoping the good exclusives and blu-ray winning out happens at the same time
even Microsoft doesn\'t want to include the HD-DVD-ROM drive built in their XBOX360 says a lot about their concerns if the format turns out a failure.
Microsoft has also been suspected of trying to sabotage this whole affair (BD+HD-DVD) war so their shitty downloadable service could take off.
game over.
lol at HD DVD fans.
perhaps you can find a nice ditch in the ground to bury your cash in, LIC. just as productive.
i also hear they have nifty 8-track players at the thrift store.
they even have a loop feature!!!!1
perhaps you can find a nice ditch in the ground to bury your cash in, LIC. just as productive.
i also hear they have nifty 8-track players at the thrift store.
they even have a loop feature!!!!1
LIC, how much you pay for all that already obsolete stuff?
i think DIVX lasted longer.
That\'s what he claims. He actually bought HDDVD mainly because it doesn\'t have Sony on it.
It seems that LIC is well paid.
I don\'t see as it matters, but I\'ll play.
HD DVD player - $150
Six movies - Around $25 a piece.
Picking up another HD DVD player for $179 dollars with ten free movies.
It\'s not as if they self destruct. No, instead they will still get played and enjoyed. Once a movie comes out and price comes down, I\'ll then go ahead and buy into Blu Ray.
Personally, this news doesn\'t really bother me. I\'ve bought into other things that didn\'t last long (Virtual Boy, 32X and the list goes on and on). What matters is enjoying them while they are around. And I\'ve enjoyed HD DVD while it was around and kicking.
And whats your problem?
Not sure that is any of your business.
And whats your problem?
If you have money to spend, why not spend them? You are doing what you are supposed to.
can this format war please be over soon? I haven\'t bought either, but I have a PS3 so I can still watch Blu Ray movies. I guess if I had to pick one I\'d want blu-ray to win.
Are you dumb? Or do you just like to contradict yourself? You bought a PS3, so you bought a Blu Ray player. You also watch Blu Ray, so............
It\'s simply none of your business if I\'m "paid well".
We\'re Losers, Say the HD DVD People
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.hometheatermag.com%2Fces2008%2Fhddvd1.jpg&hash=91258812b49fb22b7c35b59119917441f2974a35)
Wow, I landed in Vegas, went to the baggage carousel, and there was this big banner that said LOSER HD DVD. Is the HD DVD camp conceding already?
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.hometheatermag.com%2Fces2008%2Fhddvd2.jpg&hash=2156634712740ebcef27b188bc3feae6a9145a6e)
It actually says CLOSER HD DVD. My bad.
Link (http://blog.hometheatermag.com/ces2008/)
sigh. You probably understand what a joke is right? You do know the person that posted that is being sarcastic in a humorous way. I actually LOL when I first saw the banner where he cropped it off for the first pic and for a second i thought it was for real assuming that an HD-DVD spokeperson is annoucing with the banner admitting defeat or something, and then on the 2nd pic, it reveals the whole word.:laughing:
so eh...if you (not YOU..the person) landed in vegas and saw the banner..how did he not see it said "closer".
..and would you really think a banner would say \'loser Hd-dvd\' to promote itself?
common sense...
I think why many consumers haven\'t gotten into Blu Ray yet has to do with
I\'m sticking to DVDs for now as well. While HD\'s cool and all, I just don\'t think it\'s worthwhile to buy into it right now. I\'d rather wait till one format is left and the title availability is higher.
Think before you speak.
There is nothing wrong with their "downloadable service". It does what it needs to do.
To be honest the HD stuff I downloaded via Xbox Live looked and sounded pretty good. It\'s still too big to stream, but 5 gigs isn\'t so bad in this age of cable and DSL. I prefer to own my movies though, I don\'t like having to pay for them each time I want to watch them (unless the price comes waaaay down).
Out of curiousity - have you actually seen HD movies on Xbox Live? To my eyes it looked quite the same as HD-DVD content.
One last note this evening: That idea I floated yesterday, that the BDA should offer an olive branch to HD-DVD consumers? I mentioned it to senior BDA executives this evening, and I think you can safely say that they\'re going to move forward with something along these very lines in the weeks ahead. We\'ll post more when we can, but the idea was definitely warmly received. In fact, plans are already in the works. We\'ll post more on this as things develop.
Just samples. From what I saw they dont even have 1080p content, even at 720p the bitrates are only around 7Mbps, that would be considered ultra low for a BD/HDD title, even using the same codec VC1.
Just samples. From what I saw they dont even have 1080p content, even at 720p the bitrates are only around 7Mbps, that would be considered ultra low for a BD/HDD title, even using the same codec VC1.
´hell I doubt most people would be able to tell the difference from HD-DVD/Blu-ray, even if it\'s inferior on paper.
Now if only all the studios would release BR moves for $5 a piece. :D
Just "samples". Alright, so get back to us when you\'ve compared the two side by side.
Yes, samples.. cut outs of the stuff you buy. Its more than enough to see the difference (if 720p vs 1080p and an 6 time difference in bitrate wasnt telling enough).
Side by side, sure if I had an Xbox I could take screencaps with my HD capture-card. Will you lend me yours?
Raz is upset. He\'ll be happier if he played Uncharted.
I wouldn\'t say you need connections up to 100Mbps - that is a little bit stretch, since blu ray specs run at 54 mbps max, where the spec they put for video is 40 mbps max and 14 mbps audio max.
...in order to stream BD quality stuff you need connections up to 100Mbps, and then there is the infrastructure... :)
How long does it take to [size=10]rip[/size] a 9gb movie from netflix?
^^^
I doubt that there will be another format in 2 years for mass mainstream consumers. There maybe much higher storage capacity format in 2 years, but those are usually for industries and businesses that need them since they could be quite expensive.
it should be longer than 2 years when there is another format available that is aiming to replace Blu Ray in the future. I say in maybe 3 to 5 years from now is when we will start to hear formats that are announce in prototype that might compete with each other to be the next format that will replace Blu Ray. And that format won\'t be available to consumer yet until another 1 to 3 years afterward for fine tuning, giving it the finishing touches, and in mass production.
After this format war where it seems like Blu Ray will be winning, I think next generation will probably have one standard format where all companies agree to join like how the dvd was, because launching multiple formats from different companies can confuse consumers, and consumers not supporting them and a lot of money will be lose for the failing format from R&D, advertisements, selling it cheaper than production cost to lure buyers, etc...HD-DVD is a good example of this.
i think it\'s going to be a while till blu ray in mainstream. not enough people have hdtv\'s, and out of those tv\'s only a percentage have bluray/hddvd
think dvd\'s are going to be around a lot longer than vhs\'s were. so i think "next generation" (not sure what/when that is) will still be both dvd and blu ray.
I wouldn\'t be too sure about that. VHS was released in 76 and was the industry standard a few years later after Beta was defeated. Then DVD was released in around, what, 95? Didn\'t become standard until a couple years later? I remember having a DVD player in 99 and my general rule of thumb is that stuff isn\'t in the mainstream until before my parents buy something (they\'re a bit slow ;) ) That was 20 years of glory VHS had. And now DVD has had almost 10 years in which it was the standard and I feel it still won\'t be fully replaced for a couple years, when people start to see the need to buy it. Most people still have SDTVs and an HD format would be pretty much pointless. I know my 13\'\' Sylvania won\'t make blu-ray\'s look much better than DVDs. Anyone have the figures of how many have HDTVs?
I believe they still have it. I\'m a member of Netflix, but never tried the whole downloadable service.
VMD is lame. its just basically a dvd which have red laser and unlike dvd where it only can read 2 layers max, this technology can read up to more than 2, as high as 10 layers or something like that. Eh, that article is kind of misleading and wrong saying the Blu Ray runs at 36 mbps while VMD can run up to 40 mbps.
Who needs HD-DVD and Blu-ray... HD-VMD is where it\'s at! :D
http://displaydaily.com/2007/09/17/red-laser-hd-capacity-discs-brings-new-life-to-dvds/
I wouldn\'t say you need connections up to 100Mbps - that is a little bit stretch, since blu ray specs run at 54 mbps max, where the spec they put for video is 40 mbps max and 14 mbps audio max.
the 14 mbps audio is probably for room for "uncompressed" surround sound.
If Microsoft offer only 7 mbps for HD, then that is nearly 6 times less than the max of 40 mbps that blu ray can offer for HD Video.
Microsoft said months before they first released the XBOX360 that that they won\'t include HD-DVD ROM built in because they don\'t want to upset consumers if HD-DVD turns out a failure.
a little suprising since a console is different than a whole dvd/vhs player. If MS made players, than it\'d be a little more obvious. I just thought theyd dismiss the whole thing once hd-dvd went away.
Microsoft said months before they first released the XBOX360 that that they won\'t include HD-DVD ROM built in because they don\'t want to upset consumers if HD-DVD turns out a failure.
So instead, not long after they released the XBOX360, they announced they would sell the HD-DVD Drive as an external drive as an option for those that want to watch movies in HD-DVD format.
It does surprised me a bit too that Microsoft might start thinking about selling the Blu Ray as an external BD Drive like how HD-DVD was. Its business, why not then.
it should be a cheaper alternative for those that already own XBOX360 to be able to watch Blu Ray movies via external add-on.
I see. So, its from streaming, not downloading content?
blu ray is not a proprietary hardware of Sony.
Sony is one of the founders though, so yes they would get Microsofts moneis. :D
In the same vein, one of the Blu-ray codecs available to studios is Microsoft\'s VC-1, which means they would get royalties for every BR disc made with their codec.
Though I think most pressings now are mpeg-4...
No matter how you look at it, that Resident Evil "joint" sucked.
And you know the best part about being purple? All the movies. Now that I own both formats, I can go to Amazon.com or Netflix.com and check out both sections and enjoy it without having to worry about if it\'s exclusive . In fact, other than TV shows, it allows me to do away with standard definition almost entirely.
I done a blind buy on it, due to the fact I own the first two and I wanted to complete the trilogy. I\'m just that kind of person. I hated the second one also. The first on the other hand, was in the top three best videogame adapations, I rank it right behind Mortal Kombat (love the original) and slightly behind Silent Hill, which I think is under apperciated..
It was called Nemesis and appeared in RE 3, not 2...
Netflix Picks Blu-ray Disc as Exclusive HD Format (like we need any more nails in this coffin)
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=10637
y\'know that resident evil joint wasn\'t that bad,..if you just look at it from an action thriller sort of film and not to really try to put it in the actual resident evil universe....and i\'ve yet to see any of the saw movies.....one day i\'m just gonna start from the first one and work my way up...Well, the movies sucked big time IMO.
The browncoats demand capitulation from Universal! We want serenity now!
I\'m glad I did! Some of the sales on HD-DVD\'s going on right now have already made the cheap player I got more than worth it.
It is also a bad thing. It means BLU-RAY has no real competition and no real reason to drop prices or encourage big sales.
It is also a bad thing. It means BLU-RAY has no real competition and no real reason to drop prices or encourage big sales.Yes, because that was surely the case with DVD\'s as well...
Yes, because that was surely the case with DVD\'s as well...
It is also a bad thing. It means BLU-RAY has no real competition and no real reason to drop prices or encourage big sales.
It is also a bad thing. It means BLU-RAY has no real competition and no real reason to drop prices or encourage big sales.
no competition aside from DVD and downloads?
You won\'t see near the amount of price dropping as you would of had HD DVD stayed around. It\'s just common sense, something that is short around these boards. That doesn\'t mean there won\'t be some sales, but not the same amount.
You won\'t see near the amount of price dropping as you would of had HD DVD stayed around. It\'s just common sense, something that is short around these boards. That doesn\'t mean there won\'t be some sales, but not the same amount.
are you speculating or predicting?
Your common sense is flawed. It is simple as that. Especially when you lack any financial or economic background.
And you\'re just plain fucking stupid - what is your point, exactly?
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That you dont have any
Your common sense is flawed. It is simple as that. Especially when you lack any financial or economic background.
This matters to you, why? You\'re most likely too fuckin\' poor to own an actual high def format. I suggest you go back and screw some sheep, something you at least know about.Yeah I am so poor I am enjoying high def :(
...Who would buy an external blu-ray anyway? Prices are falling. I didn\'t even understand why someone would buy the HD DVD counterpart.
The external HD-DVD drive was a cheap way of getting a HD-DVD player. It doesn\'t make much sense with 1-200 dollar standalone players, but with more expensive ones it does. The Xbox 360 gives a pretty sucky film watching experience though with all the bloody noise.
Fantastic news. Perhaps now we can focus on the movies and not buying a possible paperweight.
After watching Planet Earth on my Sony Bravia 46XBR on the PS3, it\'s hard to watch shows in 420i. :( At least it upconverts DVDs quite nicely. :D