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Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Luke on January 22, 2008, 01:56:11 PM
Dead?


"Actor Heath Ledger has been found dead in a Manhattan apartment, New York police tell CNN."


No links yet, this just broke.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Coredweller on January 22, 2008, 01:59:49 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22788914/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22788914/)
 
I guess "The Dark Knight" will be his swan song.  (Assuming it\'s already in the can)  I hope it\'s worthwhile.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Samwise on January 22, 2008, 02:02:10 PM
OMG! I\'m actually pretty shaken by this, and celebrity deaths don\'t usually fase me. R.I.P. :(

BTW, something creepy happened when I saw the thread title, I could just feel it was something like this. Seriously. :(
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Cerberus on January 22, 2008, 02:07:46 PM
someone just mentioned it elsewhere, it must have just happened, litterally, as I can\'t see any reports on it.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Luke on January 22, 2008, 02:10:21 PM
Yeah crazy. He was one of my favorite actors even before he got the joker gig.
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Post by: Bozco on January 22, 2008, 02:10:39 PM
The police got the call around 2:30 today about it.  Weird and yea kinda sad.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 22, 2008, 02:14:25 PM
sucks for his daughter..RIP

kind of taints the dark knight for me
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Luke on January 22, 2008, 02:20:29 PM
looks like he OD\'d.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Joker on January 22, 2008, 02:22:12 PM
Wow no fucking way. Thats sad :( RIP heath
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Jumpman on January 22, 2008, 02:32:22 PM
That\'s horrible...was already a star but was only 28. Could have become as big Tom Cruise one day.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on January 22, 2008, 02:34:23 PM
Terrible news. I never say that about movie stars (minus Christopher Reeve), but Heath had a lot of talent. From what I\'ve read and heard on the news, it sounds like suicide as opposed to a typical drug overdose.  I know there were reports on the set of \'The Dark Knight\' that he had been acting strange.  That film is finished and in post production at this point, but he was already signed and wrote in for the third one.  

Sad news indeed.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: mm on January 22, 2008, 02:45:59 PM
drug related?

also known as "natural selection"
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 22, 2008, 02:46:48 PM
really is surprising that in less than a month ago, i remember someone posted a video leak of batman.  Now he\'s just dead in real life...very unexpected.  It\'s quite sad I think even though I haven\'t seen his movies before...

I guess Raz avatar has something to do with it.  i am joking there.  Do you guys think it might be related from stress from work?  Heard he took some pills to help him sleep...
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 22, 2008, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: Paul2


I guess Raz avatar has something to do with it.  i am joking there.  Do you guys think it might be related from stress from work?  Heard he took some pills to help him sleep...


i cant believe that\'s what the media is hopping onto. they talk about how he\'s depressed from breaking up with his wife, but since a big movie being the cause of his death being a possible reason, they hop on it like flies on shit

guess it makes too much sense that he was fucked in the head from outside of work and if it wasnt his role as joker, it\'d be something else.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on January 22, 2008, 03:16:12 PM
Quote from: mm
drug related?

also known as "natural selection"


Manic depression.
Also known as "chemical imbalance".


Quit being so harsh to judge things. He may of been a druggie. He may of accidentally overdosed. He may of killed himself. As of right now, no one knows for sure what happened.  There is a very good chance he had some mental problems and his current divorce sent him over the edge. There is also a chance he was a druggie. Until everything comes out, it\'s just stupid and an asshole thing to do, to count it as "natural selection".
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Luke on January 22, 2008, 03:31:42 PM
mm saying an asshole thing?!

I dont believe it!



He\'s right though. As much as I liked Ledger as an actor, I dont have much sympathy for poeple who OD and die. Its not like he got sent to iraq or was hit by a bus saving an old lady. He did too many drugs and died from it, whether he planned to or not.


Still sad though.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Luke on January 22, 2008, 03:42:02 PM
Now they are saying it was sleeping pills....


All signs point to suicide.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on January 22, 2008, 03:58:19 PM
Guess he is still an asshole, because of suicide, eh?

Sorry, I don\'t see it that way. Big difference in being an addict and accidently overdosing and killing yourself from depression. BIG fucking difference..
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Post by: Unicron! on January 22, 2008, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: mm
drug related?

also known as "natural selection"
Not necessarily....well....partially atleast.

Depression has some gene connection according to many psychiatrists and it can be inherited. It is often not expressed until the right circumstances exist.

The person should pass through medical care in case he suffers from severe depression (melancholy is a different thing though). There are many people that can have tremendous skills and mental abilities, but once depression emerges they are not themselves. They become counterproductive despite that they have all kinds of abilities (which can also be in their genes).

Their brains simply dont produce the right substances to maintain a balance. So they need medical care, usually some form of antidepressants that help the brain produce the right chemicals, until it can produce them itself
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: THX on January 22, 2008, 04:28:31 PM
Drug overdose = idiot
Suicide = coward

RIP dawg
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Titan on January 22, 2008, 04:30:59 PM
RIP. I didn\'t believe my roommate when he told me. That\'s really unfortunate. I really enjoyed all the movies I saw him in. I was really looking forward to seeing him as the Joker.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Unicron! on January 22, 2008, 04:31:37 PM
Quote from: THX
Drug overdose = idiot
Suicide = coward

RIP dawg

You dont know unless you were in the same shoes
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: QuDDus on January 22, 2008, 05:05:42 PM
Another drug overdose reminds me of the 70\'s
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: mm on January 22, 2008, 05:13:51 PM
perhaps i was too harsh in my earlier post.....

let me rephrase it as "who cares?"
thousands of people kill themselves/accidentally OD everyday

if this was joe bob from around the corner, you\'d never hear about it.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on January 22, 2008, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: mm
perhaps i was too harsh in my earlier post.....

let me rephrase it as "who cares?"
thousands of people kill themselves/accidentally OD everyday

if this was joe bob from around the corner, you\'d never hear about it.


Now this part I can agree with. I find it insane that so much attention is given to someone when they die , just because they are a "star". \\

Do I care? On some level, yes. He was a human and a great actor, but I don\'t think there should be some media circus, like there always is when a famous person dies.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on January 22, 2008, 05:24:05 PM
And now the word is that he was sick with pneumonia and that it was most certainly an accidental overdose of perscription medication.

If that is the case, then it really does suck .
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Post by: videoholic on January 22, 2008, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
sucks for his daughter..RIP

kind of taints the dark knight for me



you said taint...  heh
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Titan on January 22, 2008, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea
Now this part I can agree with. I find it insane that so much attention is given to someone when they die , just because they are a "star". \\

Do I care? On some level, yes. He was a human and a great actor, but I don\'t think there should be some media circus, like there always is when a famous person dies.


It is unfortunate that they create a media circus about it. If I was a celebrity, I would just want to die with dignity and just enough coverage where my fans would know. The word would go through the grapevine one way or another. I feel bad for him in a way because he died and the media is hyping it up. Sad that one day people will only label him as the actor who ODed instead of the fantastic work he did.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Luke on January 22, 2008, 07:47:23 PM
I was calling mm the asshole Raz, not Heath Ledger.


If he accidentally OD\'d on a scrpit he had been taking then yeah, thats really sad and too bad.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: clips on January 22, 2008, 07:58:24 PM
If he accidently Od\'d then yea,..it\'s a shame, but too many of these hollywood types almost always find their demise in overdosing.....it\'s like a cliche for them, and i don\'t feel sorry for them when they do it....they are in better place financially than most and yet some want to recklessly end their life in this manner,....yea, money isn\'t everything but i\'m sure i wouldn\'t mind havin\' some of that financial success that some of these celebs have,...and trust, i wouldn\'t be in some high priced hotel snortin\' my life away...

Again if he did indeed accidently od, then it\'s a shame....i\'m a wee bit skeptical tho....
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: GmanJoe on January 22, 2008, 08:24:50 PM
As long as he finished the Batman movie, well, RIP Heath.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: JBean on January 22, 2008, 08:29:20 PM
Yeah, the batman movie is done filming and in post-production

Reminds me of the first "Crow" movie.. only with a much higher-scale actor (and he didn\'t die while filming)

sad really, I liked him in most of his roles
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: clips on January 22, 2008, 08:47:16 PM
Quote from: JBean
Yeah, the batman movie is done filming and in post-production

Reminds me of the first "Crow" movie.. only with a much higher-scale actor (and he didn\'t die while filming)

sad really, I liked him in most of his roles



That was really disturbing with what went down with Brandon Lee...and it all stemmed from the beef his father had with people in his homeland bein\' upset with him teachin\' in the u.s....and apparently they were still pissed about it even years after bruce lee died, then they turn around and put real bullets in a gun that was supposed to have blanks in it during the shooting of the crow,...another bizarre story...
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Luke on January 22, 2008, 09:15:42 PM
I never heard that about brandon lee...
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: mjps21983 on January 22, 2008, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: clips
That was really disturbing with what went down with Brandon Lee...and it all stemmed from the beef his father had with people in his homeland bein\' upset with him teachin\' in the u.s....and apparently they were still pissed about it even years after bruce lee died, then they turn around and put real bullets in a gun that was supposed to have blanks in it during the shooting of the crow,...another bizarre story...



That is all speculation though...
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Post by: Coredweller on January 22, 2008, 10:38:04 PM
Stupidest celebrity death of all time:

John Eric Hexum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum)

Remember that one?
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Titan on January 22, 2008, 11:06:44 PM
Quote from: Coredweller
Stupidest celebrity death of all time:

John Eric Hexum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum)

Remember that one?


How do you know this?
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 22, 2008, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: Coredweller

Stupidest celebrity death of all time:

John Eric Hexum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum)

Remember that one?
i never heard of him, but i did a google him after reading your post and he does bare a striking resemble to Heath Ledger...

its said he died by accidently shot himself on the head with a prop gun that was loaded with blank cartridges because he was bored from the exhausted work....
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Titan on January 22, 2008, 11:16:09 PM
The more I read about him, the more I can\'t wait to see him in Batman. I"ve been following it since I\'ve heard and I seriously can\'t wait to see the next Batman movie.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 22, 2008, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: Paul2
i never heard of him, but i did a google him after reading your post and he does bare a striking resemble to Heath Ledger...


what?

sorry, but there is no resemblance..what pills can go with what is a little more confusing (if that was the case) than knowing not to shoot yourself with a blank..

if you mean looks then...what?
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 12:48:46 AM
yeah, i mean looks.

that guy does have a striking resemblence of heath ledger....or heath ledger does looks like that guy...by that i mean appearance...
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Post by: Cerberus on January 23, 2008, 08:29:34 AM
how easy is it to take a lethal sized accidental overdose?

I have never had any problems knowing if I have or haven\'t taken too many prescribed pills in my life.

I may have taken 2 doses too close together in the past, and when I say too close, I mean an hour or so too close, I don\'t mean 2 doses straight after each other.

to take a lethal overdose, would mean that a person would have to consume at least the major part of a full prescription in one go, and not throw them back up after.

which makes it rather had for me to swallow (no pun intended) the argument that it could have been an accidental overdose.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Jar O Pickles on January 23, 2008, 08:54:00 AM
He killed himself because he couldn\'t deal with the fact he kissed a dude onscreen
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on January 23, 2008, 08:58:15 AM
Well, now they say all signs point to accidental. He was sick, his immune system was down and appparently he took either too many pills or the wrong mixture.  

Truly sucks if it was accidental. I\'ve read he was clean from his drug problem. Kind of ironic that he gets clean and still dies by drugs.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: fastson on January 23, 2008, 09:05:33 AM
Damn, I just read it in the newspaper. :(

Sucks extra hard if it was accidental.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 10:53:06 AM
last December i was going through 2 near death experiences because of the medication i took.  it\'s insane, quite shocking and disbelief that it happen...

the first time it happen in December, it lasted for about 3 1/2 hours before i can finally go to sleep.

12 days later, it happen again, i was very angry, and in disbelief too.  I was finally convinced it was the effect of the medication.  This time, I finally go to an emergency room.  i think the vital signs or whatever it have my pulse or heart rate beating at 113 bps.  That\'s a bit too high.  On average, I should have my heart rate beating at around 70ish to 80ish bps...  Then like 30 minute later, my heart rate finally slow down to 100ish, and then 90ish, and then 80ish for the next hour.

As my heart rate slow down, i feel much relieved, and when its get to 80ish range.  i feel like normal again.  Went back home, and wait for another 15 minutes before going to sleep.

It\'s crazy that some medication some doctors or nurses give you can be dangerous and deadly.

When the 2nd time that happen to me, as I was in discomfort I was complaining about the doctor that trick me into taking this med, and that evil nurse too.

I remember the day I visit that doctor about the med, he didn\'t believe about the effect the medication had on me and told me to continue taking it and he want to continue the prescription.  I said I was going near death experience there.  He laughed about it, didn\'t take it seriously, and after a bit of me explaining to him and he still acts like an asshole.  I said, "do you have eye jobs?"

And he denies it even though he did have eye jobs, as if he\'s embarassed about it.  You know how most Asians don\'t have upper eyelids, and they have plastic surgery to give them their upper eyelids because they don\'t want to look ugly but pretty.  But even when this doctor have eyejobs, is still ugly as fuck and his eyes are still tiny.  Its like the saying you can\'t change a chicken into a peacock...no matter what, it still won\'t look natural.

don\'t forget to mention his nose, it looks like monkey nose, flat and kind of big.  Although I didn\'t mention him about his nose.  He nose does looks like a monkey nose, but at least the difference between a monkey and him is the monkey isn\'t evil and accept how a monkey look and doesn\'t get a face lift.

Speaking about that nurse, that woman is evil too.  she misunderstood me and she has no upper lip either....

There....enough about my rant.:D
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Samwise on January 23, 2008, 11:18:07 AM
I don\'t see what the looks of the medical personel has to do with anything. Besides, some (most) drugs have side effects and can vary a great deal depending on the person who takes them, if they\'re taking other medication, and the dosis etc. The doctor should have taken your complaints seriously though, no question about that.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Knotter8 on January 23, 2008, 11:34:15 AM
Too bad indeed. I thought Ledger was thirty something already ...

Anyway, I\'m still looking forward to see him star as the Joker
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 11:37:35 AM
Quote from: Samwise
I don\'t see what the looks of the medical personel has to do with anything. Besides, some (most) drugs have side effects and can vary a great deal depending on the person who takes them, if they\'re taking other medication, and the dosis etc. The doctor should have taken your complaints seriously though, no question about that.
looks and personality look can be revealing of who that person is.

You see, I was very respectful and polite to that doctor, a psychiatrist.  But he treated me like craps.  So, I got upset and yelled at him explaining my problems.  Its not like he didn\'t do anything bad to me that I just made comment about his ugly appearance.  That day when I visited him was 10 days after I got the first crazy effect of the medication.  He still prescribes me the same shit medication.  My mom told me to take that medication anyway, and if it happens again.  Stop taking it from now on.  So, a day later when she get the meds from the pharmacy.  That night I took it again and i got into the same heart attack.

Man, was i angry.  I am not pleased with how cruel and the how unfair the world can be.  This psychiatrist made like over $100 an hour, but all he did is shit on his butts seeing his patients and giving prescription....sure, he did have schooling to get this far...but the money he made is ridiculously high and unfair, especially to person like he is who is evil and ugly, but doesn\'t accept his ugliness but went to a plastic surgery....oh the irony of a psychiatrist.

You do see people work much harder than a psychiatrist is, but they get pay less...and mostly importantly, they are more humane and ethical than he is.  Is not like he\'s a surgeon which I strongly agree do deserve the high paid they get because giving surgery is a dangerous, hard, and time consuming jobs...i don\'t understand why psychiatrists get pay about the same amount of surgeon...they don\'t do anything that seems difficult to me...
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Post by: Samwise on January 23, 2008, 11:45:59 AM
Um, it\'s not exactly easy work being a psychiatrist... I still don\'t see why he\'s so evil though, besides giving you some meds that you somehow had a reaction to. I doubt he gave them to you because he wanted you to suffer... in that case he\'d probably have given you a laxative. :D
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 12:08:13 PM
lol.  no, he don\'t gives me laxative, but I believed the nurse with no upper lip did.  she\'s evil i am telling you.  she misunderstood me, and on several occassions.  she gave me medication that makes me go to the bathroom a lot.  Also, it was her that handed me the medication that i got mine first heart attack of that month.

But reading what i wrote previously....it\'s so true and hilarious.

[INDENT]I said, "do you have eye jobs?"

And he denies it even though he did have eye jobs, as if he\'s embarassed about it. You know how most Asians don\'t have upper eyelids, and they have plastic surgery to give them their upper eyelids because they don\'t want to look ugly but pretty. But even when this doctor have eyejobs, is still ugly as fuck and his eyes are still tiny. Its like the saying you can\'t change a chicken into a peacock...no matter what, it still won\'t look natural.[/U]

don\'t forget to mention his nose, it looks like monkey nose, flat and kind of big. Although I didn\'t mention him about his nose. He nose does looks like a monkey nose, but at least the difference between a monkey and him is the monkey isn\'t evil and accept how a monkey look and doesn\'t get a face lift.

Speaking about that nurse, that woman is evil too. she misunderstood me and she has no upper lip either....
[/INDENT]


:laughing::lmao:   :rofl:
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Samwise on January 23, 2008, 12:11:41 PM
I think you\'re still on drugs. ;)
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 12:19:53 PM
no.  i am just being truthful and fair and square.

You be surprise to see how many Asians have no upper eyelids because they want to look "caucasian" or white.  they aren\'t happy with their eyes looking small, or slanted, and no upper lids.

Also, to be honest, some people has no upper lip either.  Usually white people though.  Also, some guys get bald headed fast too...usually white people though i think...although i am sure i seen asians and blacks have bald head too...but a bit less than white.  usually, when some guys are bald headed, they just shave their heads completely to look even...
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Post by: Coredweller on January 23, 2008, 12:43:46 PM
Doctors are humans too.  They can be assholes, and they can be incompetent.  Considering that your life and health is at stake, you\'re not under any obligation to obey them if they\'re wrong.
 
If you run into a bad doctor, walk away and find another one.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Titan on January 23, 2008, 01:15:03 PM
Yeah paul. Core brings up a good point. Reading your rants, I was thinking why you didn\'t just find a new doctor if you thought he was so incompetent. I mean I\'ve switched many doctors, mostly because of my insurance but I also had displeasure with them. I remember I went to my mom\'s doctor before college. I wasn\'t impressed so I got a new one. She just wasn\'t nice and I didn\'t like the office and I just plain didn\'t like the place. The office was in what looked like a haunted house, lol. Anyway, my doctor now is so cool. He doesn\'t care that I smoke pot (which I really don\'t do anymore except with certain friends) as long as I\'m responsible. He\'s young and really down to earth. And his nurses are typically cute.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Luke on January 23, 2008, 01:37:47 PM
Quote from: Paul2
no.  i am just being truthful and fair and square.

You be surprise to see how many Asians have no upper eyelids because they want to look "caucasian" or white.  they aren\'t happy with their eyes looking small, or slanted, and no upper lids.

Also, to be honest, some people has no upper lip either.  Usually white people though.  Also, some guys get bald headed fast too...usually white people though i think...although i am sure i seen asians and blacks have bald head too...but a bit less than white.  usually, when some guys are bald headed, they just shave their heads completely to look even...



Man.... What the hell are you rambling about?
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 01:45:45 PM
i am ramblings about mean, and ugly people with evil personality.

I am not saying all ugly people are ugly inside too.  I seen ugly people that are nice inside, but i also seen ugly people that ugly inside too.

i also seen people that are wicked pretty.  But that they are pretty, but also wicked looking...it shows on the appearance.  But this is rare though.

And I also seen people that are both pretty on the inside and out.  Its show on their looks and personality...

that\'s my personal experience.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: Coredweller


Doctors are humans too.  They can be assholes, and they can be incompetent.  Considering that your life and health is at stake, you\'re not under any obligation to obey them if they\'re wrong.
 
If you run into a bad doctor, walk away and find another one.

yeah.  that\'s what i did, not only so, but won\'t see any other doctors too.  Unnecessary.  When i first see him in December after the first heart attack, and he was being an evil jerk laughing at my situation.  And then me being fooled into taking the fricking medication that i got another heart attack.  I vowed to never see that ugly ass doctor again.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 02:30:40 PM
oh btw titan,

the nurse i saw was in November, a month before I see this psychiatrist.  She was an evil person.  Look, I am not please and not happy becayse i didn\'t do anything to her, nor did i know her and i respect her like i respect anyone else.  But she was cruel to me.  she is an old fat, and no upper lip lady.  At first, the medication she gave me have cream on it.  it tooks me day to talk about the cream on the pill, and she said it was an accident and had she know, she would have given me a fresh one....by that, I am sure it was an accident.  she just didn\'t know...

but then i don\'t know what i did to cause her such misunderstanding that she gives me pill that makes me go to the bathroom frequently.  and then, when she  gave me 2 weeks supply of this medication.  The first 5 days, I was doing fine...especially a little side effect like tremors from hands and feet.  but that\'s okay.

Until the 6 days, I got a heart attack.  I wasn\'t sure it was the medication.  Now, I am convinced it was the the medication.  She probably puts some medication as prescribed on the bottle for me, and some medication that is deadly on the bottle.  the pills look the same, well most pills do so it never crossed my mine that she\'s evil.

Even when i got the first heart attack that lasted fro 3 1/2 hours, I didn\'t think she would do this to me.  Until the 2nd time that happened, I knew she did it.  And even that frickin ugly ass doctor that they appointed me to see is  evil too and laughed at my situation too.

I am sure pretty much anybody gives other respect.  Until other disrespect you is when you are really upset...and that\'s the situation i was going through and i gone through 2 near death experiences because of it.

I am not please nor am i happy about it...its not like i did something mean to them for them to do this to me...no.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Titan on January 23, 2008, 02:34:29 PM
There is something odd about your ramblings. Doesn\'t seem like the way you usually post.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on January 23, 2008, 02:57:40 PM
Honestly.....I want to throw some insult out there, but I can\'t find one. I mean, Paul\'s rambling and ranting is so inchorent that all I gathered out of it was the following.

1: Asians wanna look white.

2: People who have no lips give you stuff to make ya\' poop.

3: He had a heart attack. Or did he? He says it was close, but then he says he did  - so I\'m so very confused.


Well, I\'m not goin\' to insult, because obviously he has some issues, but boy I haven\'t been this confused since Kopking wanted to know about Chuck Norris.

And for the record, anytime you take a medication, you may suffer an adverse effect.  It\'s just part of it. I\'ve experienced it first hand when a medication perscribed to me made my throat almost swell shut.  Scarey experience, but it\'s just the way it works. Doctors can only try to minimize the risk factor of taking a new medication.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Unicron! on January 23, 2008, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea


And for the record, anytime you take a medication, you may suffer an adverse effect.  It\'s just part of it. I\'ve experienced it first hand when a medication perscribed to me made my throat almost swell shut.  Scarey experience, but it\'s just the way it works. Doctors can only try to minimize the risk factor of taking a new medication.

That could also be the doctors\' irresponsibility mind you
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Post by: Jar O Pickles on January 23, 2008, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Titan
There is something odd about your ramblings. Doesn\'t seem like the way you usually post.

it reads like he typed it in another language and ran it through a translator
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Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea
Honestly.....I want to throw some insult out there, but I can\'t find one. I mean, Paul\'s rambling and ranting is so inchorent that all I gathered out of it was the following.

1: Asians wanna look white.

2: People who have no lips give you stuff to make ya\' poop.

3: He had a heart attack. Or did he? He says it was close, but then he says he did  - so I\'m so very confused.
yes.  most asians aren\'t happy with their eyes, so they have eye jobs to look white.  You do know that most White people are naturally double eyelids.  Most Asians aren\'t double eyelids naturally.  Most of them underwent a procedure to give them the upper fold on their eyelids...

only a nurse with no "upper" lip did that to me.  yes, i had two experiences of heart attacks right after i took their medication.
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Post by: Sara on January 23, 2008, 03:53:30 PM
So you really had a heart attack?
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Post by: Unicron! on January 23, 2008, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: Paul2
yes.  most asians aren\'t happy with their eyes, so they have eye jobs to look white.  You do know that most White people are naturally double eyelids.  Most Asians aren\'t double eyelids naturally.  Most of them underwent a procedure to give them the upper fold on their eyelids...

only a nurse with no "upper" lip did that to me.  yes, i had two experiences of heart attacks right after i took their medication.

I have to agree with Paul here. There are lots of Asians that do a lot of things to change their looks.

Especially in China. Plastic surgeries and "beauty" modifications are very common.

Many of them want a lot to experience the western world, they often mimic it, and are trying to find ways to make their selves feel like they are freed from their lifestyle bonds.
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Post by: Luke on January 23, 2008, 05:19:58 PM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea


2: People who have no lips give you stuff to make ya\' poop.



That made me laugh so hard...
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Post by: clips on January 23, 2008, 07:56:54 PM
Quote from: Paul2
yes.  most asians aren\'t happy with their eyes, so they have eye jobs to look white.  You do know that most White people are naturally double eyelids.  Most Asians aren\'t double eyelids naturally.  Most of them underwent a procedure to give them the upper fold on their eyelids...



I believe it....there are plenty of asians that i\'ve seen that act and want to terribly be white,....not really sure what you would call them,..but when it refers to black folk their "uncle toms".....it\'s kinda like how some white folk used to make fun black folk lips, but alot of them are runnin\' around tryin to make their paper thin lips fuller.......and LIC pretty much nailed the whole rant....paul you kinda lost me there in the midst of your post, some parts were coherent, other parts incoherent....the ugly and evil argument? even tho i see what you\'re sayin\' i think it\'s just easier to say that it really doesn\'t matter on looks....the person can be either nasty or nice whether their nice looking or not....
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Post by: Bozco on January 23, 2008, 08:04:05 PM
Maybe Heath Ledger saw the future and saw this thread and decided to kill himself cause of it.
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Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: clips


even tho i see what you\'re sayin\' i think it\'s just easier to say that it really doesn\'t matter on looks....the person can be either nasty or nice whether their nice looking or not....

that is true.  but you can usually tell if that person is evil or not by the way they look, and their own personality.  characteristic can be revealing.  Its true that it doesn\'t matter if they are ugly or not...but i encountered way more ugly looking people who is an asshole than decent or good looking people.

Quote from: Bozco
Maybe Heath Ledger saw the future and saw this thread and decided to kill himself cause of it.

LOL.  And we just leave it as that.
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Post by: Samwise on January 23, 2008, 11:20:30 PM
Quote from: Sara
So you really had a heart attack?

I don\'t think he really knows what a heart attack is. All I got from his posts was an increased heart rate and some discomfort.
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Post by: Evi on January 23, 2008, 11:29:25 PM
Quote from: clips
That was really disturbing with what went down with Brandon Lee...and it all stemmed from the beef his father had with people in his homeland bein\' upset with him teachin\' in the u.s....and apparently they were still pissed about it even years after bruce lee died, then they turn around and put real bullets in a gun that was supposed to have blanks in it during the shooting of the crow,...another bizarre story...
That\'s ridiculous. Where did you get that diarrhea version of the story?


Anyhow...celeb deaths don\'t normally bother me, but this one got me for some reason. Been pretty down about it. Plus I\'m really looking forward to his role as the Joker so this just came as a shock. He signed on for the third movie, but that\'s not gonna happen now. Everyone who knew him said he was a nice guy...real down to earth. Meh...


Also...Paul...what the fuck are you on?
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Post by: Titan on January 23, 2008, 11:43:02 PM
Quote from: Paul2
that is true.  but you can usually tell if that person is evil or not by the way they look, and their own personality.  characteristic can be revealing.  Its true that it doesn\'t matter if they are ugly or not...but i encountered way more ugly looking people who is an asshole than decent or good looking people.


You can\'t really say that and I have to use an instance in my life that proves this. I went to a concert in Philly with this girl one time. Going in we were almost mugged. We judged this right and decided to stay away when these creepy guys tried luring us down an ally. As we were coming out, the guys were hanging out by the fence still. Creepy. As we\'re walking, this really seedy looking black guy on a bicycle gets between us and the fence. Mind you, me and this girl are terrified from the getgo. He asked where we were going and we said to our car and going home. He asked if we came from the concert and we said yeah. He was being really sketch. We get by the guys and about 15 feet later he leans to us and said "those guys by the fence were just about to jump you two. I basically learnded not to judge a book by its cover.
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Post by: Evi on January 23, 2008, 11:48:51 PM
^^

Yeah, no shit. But this thread is going way the fuck off topic.

Paul, stop being a close-minded fuck. You had some bad experiences. Okay. You can\'t judge someone on appearances alone. Some of the most well known serial killers looked like normal, nice guys. They also had personalities that seemed nice to lure in their female victims. No, you can\'t judge someone based on a narrow perspective.

Get the fuck back on topic and stop talking about your horrible poop experiences.
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Post by: Paul2 on January 23, 2008, 11:49:41 PM
Quote from: Samwise


I don\'t think he really knows what a heart attack is. All I got from his posts was an increased heart rate and some discomfort.

well enlighten me then.  Not only did my heart beat really fast, i have trouble breathing, and i can\'t stay still.  My hands and feet got weak.  For 3 1/2 hours i have to endure it before the effect of the medication goes away. It happens in the middle of the night and if i died because of it, at least i know i live a much better person and more humane than the person who did this to me.  I have a better heart than the jerk that did this to me.  I am not saying I am perfect, I have done things that are bad, but most of them are usually harmless, and nowhere near that horrible like some of the stuffs that some people done to me.

Even if I dare to do horrible thing or things that these people did, I would live to regret it.  And the guilt will follow me too.  I am just angry that these people can do this just because they can and sleep well at night as if nothing ever happen.

Quote from: Evi


Also...Paul...what the fuck are you on?

Nothing.  I am just being me.  If you have trouble understanding what I wrote.  Just ignore it then.:D
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on January 23, 2008, 11:54:04 PM
Was kinda surreal when i heard the news. I was like "heath ledge dead?  bullshit!"  Sad but true.  He\'s probably only one of the under 30s decent actors we had.
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Post by: Evi on January 23, 2008, 11:56:25 PM
Quote from: §ôµÏG®ïñD
Was kinda surreal when i heard the news. I was like "heath ledge dead? bullshit!" Sad but true. He\'s probably only one of the under 30s decent actors we had.
Yeah my friend told me and I didn\'t believe him. Had to find out myself. =\\
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Post by: Samwise on January 23, 2008, 11:59:41 PM
Quote from: Paul2
well enlighten me then.
What people call a heart attack is called acute myocadial infarction, which is a localized area of ischemic necrosis in the heart, due to insufficient supply of blood (oxygen) to that part of the heart (which results in the death of heart cells). This is pretty painful and you\'ll likely feel nausea and pain in the chest region, neck and/or arms. Needless to say this is a serious condition which needs to be taken care of at a hospital.

EDIT: The insufficient blood supply through the coronary artery is caused by partially or full occlusion.
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Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 12:13:30 AM
well samwise,

what you described is too scientific so I don\'t know.  But probably calling the symptoms i have right after I took the meds a heart attack might be the wrong terminology.  But what do you give the name to a symptom where you were sitting still, or laying down, and your heart beat was normal at around 70 to 80 bps, then all of a sudden like 15 to 30 minutes right after i took the med.  the heartrate escalated to 110ish bps.  I can hear the heartbeat through my eardrums too, it was pounding really fast and loud.  My head was also in such discomfort.

When I went to the hospital the second time that it happened.  The nurses there are a lot nicer than the nurse that I met at the psych hospital and they put wires on my body to measure EKG I think.  And my heartbeat was starting to slow down as time goes by and it shows on the monitor too.

Even I myself wasn\'t sure it was caused by the medication until the same thing happen again the next time i took that medication.

Reading Coredweller\'s post again, I have to thank him for understanding and giving good advices too.
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Post by: Samwise on January 24, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
Quote from: Paul2
well samwise,

what you described is too scientific so I don\'t know.  But probably calling the symptoms i have right after I took the meds a heart attack might be the wrong terminology.  But what do you give the name to a symptom where you were sitting still, or laying down, and your heart beat was normal at around 70 to 80 bps, then all of a sudden like 15 to 30 minutes right after i took the med.  the heartrate escalated to 110ish bps.  I can hear the heartbeat through my eardrums too, it was pounding really fast and loud.  My head was also in such discomfort.

Well there you go. That\'s not a heart attack, that\'s called tachycardia (a rapid heart rate).
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 24, 2008, 12:29:16 AM
heart palpitations..i had something like that, but it was really random and didnt really have a cause. wasnt that serious but was still pretty freaky.

edit: actually..sammy\'s word sounds better..
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Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 12:55:34 AM
mine was serious.  Its not like I was exercising or got scared that causes the rapid heartbeat which should be normal for the heart to beat fast.

I was just sitting on the chair calmly and it happened and even when i lay down in bed, it still beat so fast.  Again, they aren\'t giving me the medication they prescribed but something else that got me the heart attack.  There are some crazy medications that can do that to you.
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 24, 2008, 01:02:18 AM
a) i didnt say yours wasnt, i said mine wasnt..hence the "something like that" as in "not quite as serious as..."

b) you didnt have a heart attack. usually the heart stops with heart attacks...edit..nvm,lol. guess the heart\'s still going without blood er something? either way..a heart attack is more serious. NOT SAYING WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU WASNT SERIOUS

anything abnormal with the heart is alarming..but like everyone else said, shouldve found another doctor if you felt that uncomfortable and wasn\'t taking you seriously (even though i doubt thats the full story)..and they have no way of knowing how your body is going to react to medications
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Post by: Samwise on January 24, 2008, 01:12:04 AM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
b) you didnt have a heart attack. usually the heart stops with heart attacks...edit..nvm,lol. guess the heart\'s still going without blood er something? either way..a heart attack is more serious. NOT SAYING WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU WASNT SERIOUS
Actually that\'s called cardiac arrest. Incidently the heart doesn\'t stop in the normal sense, it just can\'t pump sufficiently like it usually would.

Quote
Again, they aren\'t giving me the medication they prescribed but something else that got me the heart attack.
Again, not a heart attack. Secondly, why would they give you different meds that the ones perscribed?
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Post by: clips on January 24, 2008, 01:52:15 AM
Quote from: Paul2
mine was serious.  Its not like I was exercising or got scared that causes the rapid heartbeat which should be normal for the heart to beat fast.

I was just sitting on the chair calmly and it happened and even when i lay down in bed, it still beat so fast.  Again, they aren\'t giving me the medication they prescribed but something else that got me the heart attack.  There are some crazy medications that can do that to you.



He gave you some viagra....;)
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Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 10:04:43 AM
Quote from: Samwise

Again, not a heart attack. Secondly, why would they give you different meds that the ones perscribed?
whoops...i kept calling it a heart attack, even it wasn\'t the right terminology like you said.

Really good question, I think its because they are evil.  Again, she gives me 2 weeks supply of that shit medication.  The first 5 days, I took the medication, I didn\'t have any severe side effects that is life threatening.

Until the 6 night I took it, I got into "tachycardia" that lasted for 3 1/2 hours.  That time, I didn\'t go to the hospital because I wasn\'t sure it was cause by the medication and I thought it might because I didn\'t drink it with water, but I drink it with juice that they don\'t go together or something.

So on the 7th day, all i took was the morning med that didn\'t cause me any heart problem.  I didn\'t dare take anymore night medication from there onward.  I was doing fine until on the 18th day, I had an appointment I have to see this doctor that psych doctor from the psych hospital suggest me to see.

Again, when I visited him and I was very polite explaining my problems.  He was very rude, and laughed about it.  He kept denying that it wasn\'t caused by the medication.  But my mom keeps persuading me to take the medication again.  I told her what if I died though?   She said to take it one more time, and if that happens again, don\'t take it again.  I listen to her and I regret it thinking about it.

So, the next night I took that shit night medication, I got into another tachycardia.  As it happens again, I was cursing the that evil psych doctor out.

So, my mom took me to emergency room hospital, and on the way to the hospital, i was struggling to stay still in the car.  It was quite bad...but at least the effect only last like 2 hours compare to previous where it lasted 3 1/2 hours.

But i am over it now as i did say what I want to say to my mom the next day.  I haven\'t taking any more night meds since then and I been doing more than fine.

Although I still haven\'t finish one thing and that is I wanted to do is to make a phone call to that ugly ass doctor to insult him...but there are plenty of time.

Quote from: clips

He gave you some viagra....;)
LOL.  If that is the case, I should be horny, not something like a seizure.
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Post by: Ashford on January 24, 2008, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: clips
I believe it....there are plenty of asians that i\'ve seen that act and want to terribly be white,....not really sure what you would call them,..but when it refers to black folk their "uncle toms".....it\'s kinda like how some white folk used to make fun black folk lips, but alot of them are runnin\' around tryin to make their paper thin lips fuller.......and LIC pretty much nailed the whole rant....paul you kinda lost me there in the midst of your post, some parts were coherent, other parts incoherent....the ugly and evil argument? even tho i see what you\'re sayin\' i think it\'s just easier to say that it really doesn\'t matter on looks....the person can be either nasty or nice whether their nice looking or not....


The only thing worse than an Asian acting white is an Asian acting black...

Losers who "talk, dress, and act ghetto"...

The irony is that these are some of the most racist people out there, always quick to call black people niggers and making the usual stereotypes...

And Paul, I suggest you go to a lawyer for a possible malpractice suit, right after you go to a real doctor for a thorough checkup to find any lasting damages...
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Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: Ashford


And Paul, I suggest you go to a lawyer for a possible malpractice suit, right after you go to a real doctor for a thorough checkup to find any lasting damages...

thank you for the kind words.  I won\'t do it as I doubt I will win.    From that evil nurse from the psych hospital that did this to me, and the psych doctor from the clinic too.  They all worked together...

2 words.  Cover-Up.

They will do a cover-up.  From the social workers, mental health workers, clinical director, nurses, to psychiatrist doctors from the same psych hospital.  Say, if a nurse is a jerk, then the other people working for the hospital will come together and protect the company and let she did what she did.  And do a cover-up.

Believe me, that nurse wouldn\'t have abuse her power this way if she know she will get in big trouble that easily.  Also, since she\'s a nurse, she probably know which pills won\'t leave a trace of obviously evidence if I take the medication...

That\'s probably why even when i went to the emergency room hospital, the doctor and nurses there couldn\'t find anything really wrong there.  they didn\'t believe it was cause by the medication.  They think the reason why i have 110 bps is because i might got stress out, or something that I got a panic attack.  But I told her that it happens right after I took the medication.  Twice already.  Since tomorrow is Sunday, the nurse at the emergency hospital said how about take it again and endure it one more day before i see the psych doctor in the clinic on Monday to talk about the changing meds or something

I said, no.  I won\'t take it again because I don\'t want to suffer again.
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 24, 2008, 11:01:11 AM
they won\'t do a cover-up..this is real life, not a movie.

if anything theyll just find a much better lawyer than you could ever pay for and win..especially since you seem a little of your rocker :D

people dont do things because theyre "evil", as much as you want to believe that. There\'s always two sides to something, and going by what your saying, id never just go by your word. i mean, your trying to use "the nurse is a jerk and evil and ugly" to make your case? you sound 5
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Post by: Samwise on January 24, 2008, 11:08:27 AM
Heh yeah Paul2, I gotta admit you sound a bit... um... crazy... with all the rambling.

And to be honest it really does sound like you were having a panic attack. Even if you weren\'t, that\'s what the symptoms point at, so it\'s not strange that\'s what the doctor thought.

I still don\'t get the whole evil-doctor-and-evil-nurse-wanting-to-give-you-wrong-pills thing.
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Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
they won\'t do a cover-up..this is real life, not a movie.

if anything theyll just find a much better lawyer than you could ever pay for and win..especially since you seem a little of your rocker :D

people dont do things because theyre "evil", as much as you want to believe that. There\'s always two sides to something, and going by what your saying, id never just go by your word. i mean, your trying to use "the nurse is a jerk and evil and ugly" to make your case? you sound 5
i might sound 5.  But that is the truth.  its not like i falsedly accused her that she has no upper lip, she is White and she doesn\'t have an upper lip mind you.  Again, I am not please that she did this to me.  I was very angry that it happen to me.  Say, if I done something mean to her, I can understand why she wants her revenge.  But that\'s not the case.  Again, its not like I did something mean or awful to her for her to do this to me.  I didn\'t even do anything mean to her.  She got pisses that I confront her about the medication that makes me go to the bathroom a lot and this other guy working at the psych hospital treated me like a dog too...

they knew they are wrong, or probably don\'t want to think that they are wrong and that they want to do this to makes me suffer because they can.  You can say it quite corrupted there, so they can almost do what they want.  good thing is i am over it.
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Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 11:15:35 AM
Quote from: Samwise
Heh yeah Paul2, I gotta admit you sound a bit... um... crazy... with all the rambling.

And to be honest it really does sound like you were having a panic attack. Even if you weren\'t, that\'s what the symptoms point at, so it\'s not strange that\'s what the doctor thought.

I still don\'t get the whole evil-doctor-and-evil-nurse-wanting-to-give-you-wrong-pills thing.

if i am crazy, how could i makes so much sense.

Tell me, what would you think if you took the medication and it happened the first time and even you didn\'t believe it was the medication.  then the 2nd time it happened again right after you took the medication.  If you still believe is not cause from the medication.  Good for you.  I can\'t wait for next  day to see you take it again and endure the hours of shortness of breathe, rapid heart rate right after you take it.

The doctor at the emergency hospital doesn\'t know because he works for regular hospital.  the psychiatrist works in the clinic...and the nurse works in the psych hospital.
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 24, 2008, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: Paul2
if i am crazy, how could i makes so much sense.
.


:laughing: i didnt even read the rest of your post

even charlie manson thought what he did made sense. of course you think you make sense. what makes people "crazy" is when everyone else knows you arent making any sense
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Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 11:22:09 AM
laugh all you want.  If you guys think I am crazy.  Then so be it.
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Post by: clips on January 24, 2008, 08:05:07 PM
Well..paul...i don\'t think you\'re crazy,but...uhm...callin\' people evil, and sayin\' the nurse is white with no upper lip...well it just sounds kinda off,...i just think for the most part that they gave you some meds that your body reacted badly to.... that\'s all...i don\'t think that they did that purposely as was stated earlier...but i do believe you when you say that you went to the E.R. and the doctors believed it was something else...

Last year i was doin some minor landscapin\' on my flowerbed and i was usin\' an edger...and i wasn;t wearin\' any goggles (dumb i know) and some debris shot straight into my left eye...long story short i went to the E.R. and the doctor looked at my eye...and he stated that he saw the debris in my eye and he wanted to do surgery right then and there....so i asked him to show it to me,...and it wasn\'t debris at all, it was just a freckle,...and i had to agrue him down to tell him that\'s what it was....so i ended up goin\' to the eye doctor who stated that he was glad that i stopped and told the dr at th E.R. that what he thought was debris wasn\'t...he would\'ve operated on my left eye for nothing..

Eventually the eye doc stated that i just slightly bruised my eye a bit and that my visiion shouldd come back 100%, which it did.....so i say all of that to say that i do believe you in that regard when it comes to some of those doctors in the E.R.....some of them just want to diagnos(spel) you with something that THEY seem fit....
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Post by: Jumpman on January 24, 2008, 08:36:46 PM
I think he\'s crazy and I haven\'t read more than 3 words from his rambling posts. All I needed to see was "cover up".
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Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 08:49:05 PM
well, first to make it clear.  The people at ER are nice.  I am complaining about a different nurse at a psychiatrist hospital.  Which is different than a regular hospital.

The nurse I met at the "psych" hospital is cruel to me, that\'s why I called her evil.  i was hospitalized for 4 weeks there.  Again, I gave her respect, but she was cruel to me.  I never insult in front of her to anything like that.  Not even when she gave me medications that make me go to the bathroom a lot.  I remember she said I was nosy, and I suppose that pretty much sums it up why she is did that to me.  All because I was being nosy.

Even one time, she give me this pill that has white cream on it and its sticky.  I swallowed it.  Days later, I asked her about it and she said she didn\'t know and had she knew, she would have gave me a fresh one.  So, i believed her and I thought she knew and I thought you couldn\'t replace a new pill if the other one is dirty.  So, that is cool that is was a misunderstanding.

Until some days later again, she gave me some pills that make me go to the bathroom a lot again...

to make things short, the day i got released, she made me stay for one more day so she can get the medication ready.  They have 4 days supplies of meds for me, but she wanted me to stay for one more day longer so she can order 2 weeks supply for me.  At first, I told her I can get the prescription and order it from the outside.  She said the doctor isn\'t here yet to give me the prescription.  But thinking about it, I could see the clinic doctor from outside that they appointed me and get the prescription there.  Since my social worker said she couldn\'t reach the clinic doctor room from outside yet.  So, I was being nice and stay there for one more day.  It does kind of sucks that my mom drove all the way there just to leave and have to pick me up again the next day.  This psych hospital is like 40 minutes drive from home to there.

So, I stay for one more extra day volunteer, and man my roommate was so right that I should just leave.  he said I was stupid for staying here for one more day.  he said if he was me, he would have left the moment they let him go.  I thought nothing of it.

never crossed my mind that the medication pills in were tampered with before putting it in the container.

So, when i first got this rapid heart beat after 6 days i took the meds at home.  I still didn\'t think she did this or did it cross my mind.  Days later, I had suspicion, but put it aside.  When the 2nd time that happen, i was 100% convinced that she did this to me.  I was cursing the psych doctor out that they appointed me from the clinic.  Even the next day, I was still upset about this psych doctor from the clinic and that nurse from the "psych" hospital.

That is when I described her evil, and no upper lip.  Again, don\'t misunderstood me that people with no upper lip is evil.  Its just that I would like to call that individual with no upper lip as evil as what she done to me.  And I want to think of something ugly about her that i want to rant about, and that\'s she has no upper lip, fat, and quite controlling, and evil.  All of which what I had experiences are true.

look can be revealing of what kind of that person is doesn\'t matter if they are pretty or ugly, but sometimes not that obvious.  the way they carried themselves make it more obvious and more revealing to gives anybody an idea of who that person is.  I believe this is usually the case.

Clips, for instance.  Like how you said how some Asians you met wanting so bad to be White.  how can you tell, obvious.  by the way they look and the way they act or carry themselves.  aka personalities and characters can be revealing.

Its not like those Asians confront you and admit that they are fake and pretending to be somebody who they are not.  You just could tell by how they are.  Of course, sometimes there is an exception where you couldn\'t really tell on very rare occasion you got fool into thinking normal looking people is nice when they are actually evil.  Like how Evi said earlier about some murderers and rapists.
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Post by: Bozco on January 24, 2008, 09:21:14 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/01/23/ep.obnoxious/index.html

Paul, read it
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 24, 2008, 09:48:50 PM
lol, the comment thats like "when the doctor treats my like a customer and not like a burden is when ill stop being an obnixious patient"

which came first, the chicken or the egg

I\'ve had no problem with any doctor i\'ve had. If your cool and cooperative and ask legitimate questions, iv run into no problems with doctors
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: Bozco

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/01/23/ep.obnoxious/index.html

Paul, read it
i just read the beginning part of it and i gotten tired half way.  it doesn\'t relate to me as i am not an obnoxious patient.  If I were, I wouldn\'t have taking the medication nor do i go see the doctor to begin with.  See what happened when I took the medication?  I regret for taking it.  And I already said it many times, but i don\'t mind saying it again.  I was very polite and respectful to this psychiatrist doctor that i met on the clinic.  but he\'s a jerk to me.  and i have to defend myself.

Also, the doctor that I seen in the psychiatrist hospital is also nice to me.  So are the doctor and the nurses at the ER.
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Post by: THX on January 24, 2008, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
lol, the comment thats like "when the doctor treats my like a customer and not like a burden is when ill stop being an obnixious patient"

which came first, the chicken or the egg

I\'ve had no problem with any doctor i\'ve had. If your cool and cooperative and ask legitimate questions, iv run into no problems with doctors

I\'ve run into problems with an older dentist who would said Listerine was all you\'d ever need for fresh breath.  Of course he had bad breath himself :applause:
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Post by: Paul2 on January 24, 2008, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: THX

I\'ve run into problems with an older dentist who would said Listerine was all you\'d ever need for fresh breath.  Of course he had bad breath himself :applause:
LOL.  you know what THX.  Sometimes i have a hard time telling if you are kidding or serious there.  You are usually a joker, but sometimes hard to tell.:laughing:
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Post by: THX on January 24, 2008, 10:22:54 PM
Sry if I\'m too sarcastic at times but that story is 100% true.  A dentist w/bad breath.... needless to say I never saw him again.
Title: Heath Ledger....
Post by: Evi on January 24, 2008, 11:43:55 PM
And the topic...
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Post by: Titan on January 24, 2008, 11:50:02 PM
This thread has taken the biggest left turn of any thread I remember in recent history.
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 25, 2008, 12:06:04 AM
post #46 was one hell of a post
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Post by: Titan on January 25, 2008, 12:08:40 AM
Quote from: Paul2
i just read the beginning part of it and i gotten tired half way.  it doesn\'t relate to me as i am not an obnoxious patient.  If I were, I wouldn\'t have taking the medication nor do i go see the doctor to begin with.  See what happened when I took the medication?  I regret for taking it.  And I already said it many times, but i don\'t mind saying it again.  I was very polite and respectful to this psychiatrist doctor that i met on the clinic.  but he\'s a jerk to me.  and i have to defend myself.

Also, the doctor that I seen in the psychiatrist hospital is also nice to me.  So are the doctor and the nurses at the ER.


I still don\'t get why you didn\'t opt to see a different doctor.
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Post by: Paul2 on January 25, 2008, 12:52:26 AM
Quote from: Titan

I still don\'t get why you didn\'t opt to see a different doctor.
Well.  Let me put it this way so you can understand why.  The medication doesn\'t do anything for me.  Not only that, it has more side effects and doesn\'t help at all.  Not one bit.  So, what\'s the point of seeing a doctor if I am doing fine and my life is not in danger?  The funny thing is, my life is in danger when I take that medication.  Because I have very good reasons why, I am not going to see a doctor for pointless reason so he or she can make money out of the insurance company for me just visiting the doctor.

Hell, even if I spend my own money, I rather spend it on something a 1,000 times more worthwhile and that might be give it to charity, to those in need, or do something more meaningful with my money.
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Post by: Joker on January 25, 2008, 02:41:06 AM
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I hated John Gibson a long time ago. But now I really can\'t stand him. Or fox news in general.
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Post by: Cerberus on January 25, 2008, 02:55:16 AM
Quote from: THX
I\'ve run into problems with an older dentist who would said Listerine was all you\'d ever need for fresh breath.  Of course he had bad breath himself :applause:

all dentists have bad breath, my dentist does, so did the one before.

the dentist I had in my early 20\'s had bad breath and yellow teeth
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Post by: Samwise on January 25, 2008, 03:01:49 AM
Yeah, but you\'re British. All your dentists are rubbish. :)
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Post by: Titan on January 25, 2008, 02:18:54 PM
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I hated John Gibson a long time ago. But now I really can\'t stand him. Or fox news in general.


What a dick. Seriously. I didn\'t even know who John Gibson was but laughing and making jokes about a guy\'s death because he portrayed someone gay in a movie is absolutely dispicable.
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Post by: Titan on January 25, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
The Westboro Baptist Church is planning on picketing his funeral. Sick fuckers. All of them. I did find this humorous video of an Australian interviewing Fred Phelps Jr and he begins hitting on him. The reactions of the members is hilarious.

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Post by: Samwise on January 25, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
So they believe he\'ll burn in hell... not because he\'s gay, but because he played a gay character? That\'s fucked up. I hate these sick fuckers trying to justify their messed up way of thinking by linking it to \'God\'.
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 25, 2008, 11:24:16 PM
imagine living your life like that..crazy. i wouldnt mind a video of someone doing a paintball driveby on them...or blow up the south..either/or


the end of that video is hilarious though
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Post by: Cerberus on January 26, 2008, 04:42:04 AM
who\'s john gibson?
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Post by: Samwise on January 26, 2008, 04:43:08 AM
Quote from: Cerberus
who\'s john gibson?

An asswipe on the radio it sounds like.
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Post by: Titan on January 26, 2008, 12:47:10 PM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
imagine living your life like that..crazy. i wouldnt mind a video of someone doing a paintball driveby on them...or blow up the south..either/or


the end of that video is hilarious though


Except the WBC is in Kansas.
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 26, 2008, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: Titan
Except the WBC is in Kansas.


fine..middle america can go as well
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Post by: Titan on January 26, 2008, 01:43:59 PM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
fine..middle america can go as well


Only section I think we should seriously get rid of is California ;)
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Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on January 26, 2008, 04:39:52 PM
It should be noted that I still support my Heath avatar.

R.I.P
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Post by: Luke on January 26, 2008, 08:04:55 PM
I think you should keep it now... forever.
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Post by: clips on January 27, 2008, 06:47:51 AM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea
It should be noted that I still support my Heath avatar.

R.I.P



Even tho i never really knew this dude,...yea i agree with Luke you should keep that avy for a looong time...it\'ll be honoring him in a way, and it\'s also one of the coolest avy\'s ever...:fro:
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Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on January 27, 2008, 07:25:30 AM
It stays.

I may watch Brokeback Mountain today.
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Post by: Joker on January 28, 2008, 10:52:00 AM
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Really hope he wins the Oscar too.
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Post by: GmanJoe on January 28, 2008, 10:57:50 AM
Raz\'s avatar was sucking a dick in a tent. ;)

RIP, Heath.

Any news about Brokeback Mountain 2? Starring Halle Barry and Jessica Alba?