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Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on August 20, 2008, 10:15:11 AM
this is the last MMO i\'m buying, I swear!!

AoC is still buggy as hell even 3 months after release. I can\'t stand WoW and I don\'t like how LotrO has no PvP. But i\'ve been following Warhammer for over a year now and it comes out next month on Sept 18th. Made by the guys who made DAOC which i\'ve heard good things about in terms of its PvP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eof2Vqwnviw - New trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnnlkO6Sf84 - PvP battleground

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGrjw80EjCI - Keep battle (also PvP)

YouTube videos don\'t do it justice can\'t get embeding to work for some reason. But theres 20 classes to choose from and for the most part they all seem unique. Anyone else gonna pick this one up? I\'m looking at you Luke & Pickles. Jump? I remember you saying a long time ago you might play it

The non disclosure agreement was lifted for beta players yesterday so theres a ton of videos on youtube now. Some are decent, most have shitty players playing, a lot have lag. But they can still give a really good idea as to how the game will play.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on August 20, 2008, 12:09:14 PM
I haven\'t decided for sure, but more than likely I\'ll be buying it.


I\'m still bitter about the complete letdown AOC was.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on August 20, 2008, 12:17:53 PM
I loveed AOC for a month...then I quit because major issues still were not fixed. I started playing again on the 16th of August and a fair number of bugs have been fixed but the servers are a ghost town and there is still HUGE issues with broken talents.

Also every fight now seems to be only a couple hits, fights last a few seconds and then its done. As much as I love to bash WoW i\'m looking for a fresh take on a gameplay using elements of WoW and bringing its own unique stuff to the table and is focused on PvP. Enter warhammer.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on August 22, 2008, 02:42:18 PM
Got into the beta this morning.

So much to say but I fear all I would do is oversell it.
This beta has less bugs than AoC\'s live version currently has.

Warhammer is like they took all the best parts of WoW pvp and DAOCC RvR and mashed them together and then added lots of new things you haven\'t seen before...and the outcome is all kinds of awesome.


One glaring critque tho is that Destruction side ALWAYS outnumbers Order side, by a fair amount. I hope they have a way of evening it out by launch. But even so, I still loved playing as Order.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on August 22, 2008, 06:34:21 PM
Oversell it. I wanna hear it.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Sublimesjg on August 23, 2008, 02:22:25 AM
im in wotlk beta... i know wow ewwwww... but i gotta say i like the direction they are taking it. i really just wish blizzard would hurry up Diablo 3 or their nex gen mmo.


i dont think i can personally make the jump to Warhammer though. seems like too much of the same when looking at it with wow in mind
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on August 25, 2008, 11:01:23 AM
Warhammer is like an MMO action movie. Explosions going off everywhere, people flying, catapults slinging, cannons shooting.

They only let us play the starting zones but the game really hammers home the point that your a member of an army fighting a war. The war is everywhere.

Public quests are really great and really fun. Public quests are special quests that anyone can take part in at any time, you just go to the area that the quest is in and the objective will pop up on your screen and also what stage of the quest. After the quest is done a window pops up and numbers start spinning like a slot machine to determine who contributed the most to the quest. If you did good then you get a loot bag and you get an item. ALL THE ITEMS (if your lucky enough to get a loot bag) are made for YOUR character.

So say your a tank class and you come in first, you don\'t have to worrry about getting rewarded with an item ment for a wizard. Its nice to know that no matter what you WILL get either an item for your character, something for one of your crafting skills, or simply money if thats what you want.

The quests themselves are very fun aswell, one of them at its final stage a giant troll comes marching out of a forest knocking down trees on players and what not.

There are many moments of \'Hey, thats pretty cool\' in this game. Its like an Arcade MMO. Its action, action, and more action.

Then there is open world pvp which is also very fun. I took part in a keep siege and had to command a battering ram with 5 other players to break the door down while dozens of other players were fighting around me. It was going good until the people in the keep we were attacking dropped boiling oil on the battering ram and killed us instantly. But it was still awesome.

Also if PvE is not your thing at all. The PvP XP is so good that you could level from lvl 1 to 40 from PvP alone without any problems.

Warhammer claims to have 20 classes (which technically it does) but EVERY class is mirrored by another one on the opposing side. Meaning the Dwarf Runepriest is almost identical to the Chaos Zealot. They have the same play mechanics, just different names. So there is actually only 7 types of classes to choose from..
Tanks
Melee DPS
Ranged DPS
Stealth
Magic ranged DPS
Healer DPS hybrid
Healers

Those classes are spread out amongst 20 different character models, so once you know what you want to do its more of a choice of how you want to look. I assume they made it this way because no one can cry \'Nerf!\' every 2 seconds because the armies are equal.

I didn\'t play any of the healer classes, but they can keep themselves alive long enough to make their way back to their allies for assistance. Healers are definatley not people you pick on for 1 shots. The tanks in this game actually feel like tanks. They take such an insane beating when they got their shields out. You can survive for longer than you\'d imagine even with 8 people beating on you at the same time.

The great thing about tanks comes with the collision detection in the game. I was a Chaos Chosen tank and I was defending a keep with a Black Orc tank and we had healers and ranged dps behind us. We set up on the stairway leading to the top of the keep after the enemy had broken its way in. Me and the Black Orc were like a wall of meat and metal. The enemy can\'t run through us and pick on the squishies behind us. They have to kill us to get through. It was one of the times I had the most fun.

Think of that scene from 300, the first fight scene of the movie where the persians charge the spartans and the just slam into the spartans shields while the dudes behind stabbed them. I didn\'t know how they would make tanking fun in a PvP game but I have to say it was a total blast.

We only got to play in the first 2 starting zones of each class. But in the first 20 levels (which is as high as it would let us go) there was already 6 different battlegrounds to que up for and play. The BG\'s were also fun, the ranged from capture the flag, to king of the hill, to kill the carrier type objectives.

The actualy gameplay is similar to WoW (nothing at all like Conan) in a lot of ways but also has a lot of stuff that make it different. Something familar and something new. The black orc for example uses attacks which open up bigger attacks which lead to his best attacks. The bright wizards get to rain down fire on people however they will build up combustion inside themselves and they have a spell that gets rid of combustion. You get about 10 combustion for every spell you cast with a maximum of 100. At 100 if you use it you get a small instant crit. However if you do not use your combustion and if it is at 100, the next time you go to use a spell there is a high chance you will blow yourself up. As a wizard I probably killed myself more than anyone else simply by not playing attention.

There are dozens of PvE quests and there are dungeons to play in, but I didn\'t do any dungeons cause I was just having so much fun in PvP. But there are PvE things to accomplish if you need a break from the hectic PvP.

All in all i\'ve had a AWESOME first experience with Warhammer. I can only speak for myself and as someone who can\'t get enough PvP, it seems like this game was tailor made for me. Can\'t wait for sept 18th.




EXCUSE ANY TYPOS AS I AM A LAZY FUCKER AND WILL NOT PROOF READ THIS BEFORE POSTING IT
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on August 25, 2008, 11:10:48 AM
I\'m game. Will pick it up on release day.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on August 25, 2008, 12:07:27 PM
Yeah, same here. You made it sound pretty good.


We should all play together.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on August 25, 2008, 12:18:25 PM
Yup, i\'ll post what servers i\'ll be on when it comes out.
Can\'t make a character for Order and Destruction on the same server so i\'ll be playing on two servers in the long run. But I don\'t know which side I want to play first :)
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on August 25, 2008, 01:35:42 PM
Here is an update from Mythic now that the servers have been taken back down. The preview weekend (which just past) was the first time the game was running with a very high population. Many others have been in closed beta but people like myself were only recently allowed access into the game. Here are some of the major bugs I forgot to mention (I told you i\'d oversell it!!)

What I dig about Mythic is that every press release i\'ve seen they are a very open company. They seem to have no problems saying "Yeah, we seriously messed up. Now here is what were doing to fix it."

I like this approach MUCH better than the typical response from MMO companies which is "Were looking into it, and information has been passed on to the dev team."

Anyways these are the major issues they are going to fix before release
this is from Mark Jacobs who is a producer of the game


http://vnboards.ign.com/warhammer_online_age_of_reckoning_general_board/b22997/108341444/p2
Quote
Folks,

Okay, it was a wild and crazy weekend in WAR and while some of you might be tempted to go all Samurai on us for a couple of the bugs, overall things went very, very well. As long-time readers of my notes now, I won’t do a Nick Winters and we are anything but pathological liars so we’ll always own up when we make a mistake and we made a couple here. So, let’s talk amongst ourselves and have a little chat about the top nine list of the biggest issues and where we stand in regards to them.

(1) Client Crashes – I’ve talked about this as one of the reasons why we didn’t release the NDA until recently. Here’s the current status.
- Just a little too many currently. While we are better off than we were in beta, we must do better still before release.
- A number of players will lower spec machines had more CTDs than higher spec machines.
- Number of fixes already in pipeline. They are working their way through our testing servers and will be pushed to the players once they have been vetted internally.
- Engineering time for CTD issue has remained heavily committed; our top engineers are working on the various issues.

(2) Monster Pathing and AI – Well, what can I say other than not even all of King Tut’s wealth could have made us feel better for messing up on this one. Well, maybe all his wealth.
- “Yes, that monster seems to be behaving a little oddly”. Monster responsiveness was very sketchy, odd pauses and tethering issues.
- “Oh, was I supposed to go in that direction?” Pathing sometimes wonky - mobs get stuck or go in wrong direction.
- Utter confusion at times as both monsters and pets will engage and disengage seemingly at random
- Internal server optimizations last week broke the pathing/AI. And I mean really, really broke it. This truly was a “Opps, we broke this code” moment for us and we don’t have many of them.
- Going to ensure that this problem is fixed this week. As I said in my first Preview Weekend, this is a major concern for us. Fortunately we have no underwater combat in this game or some of the NPCs may have been appropriately dubbed land sharks.

(3) Pet Responsiveness – With similar issues to Monster Pathing and AI, this was not our finest hour.
- Need to transfer "combat responsiveness" fixes to pets - have pet move immediately on button press.
- “Oh no, Mr. Bill!” Pets suffer from same pathing and lack of response as general monsters. Pets hopping around like they were headed to Del Staters.


(4) Global Cooldown Timers –This seems to be a hot topic for players to talk about. However, things aren’t always as they seem.
- Reality and perception are two different things, Warhammer has a GCD of 1.4s, WoW has 1.5s
- “Ability not ready” messaging needs to be improve, a sound effect if Global Cooldown in effect, maybe more cowbell?
- Need to improve on the feeling of sluggishness of the GCD and UI. Bug with display where our timer shows 2s when it is really 1.4
- The next best thing to a queue is? We will add in better "slop timer" to allow players 0.3s extra to pre-queue a second ability followup.

(5) Better animations
- So much more coming in the next two versions of the client. We are currently incorporating serious amounts of new animations into the game. Hopefully nobody will sneak a coneheads model into the game.
- Look at what my XXXX does now? Over the next month we will address many class-attack specific issues across all 20 careers.
- “U think you can dance?” Nope, but we have added new racial animations for movement, fidgets and redid some emotes.

(6) Texture Blurring
- Textures are currently cached in a manner that results in blurriness on entering a region.
- We will look at adding a client scalar.

(7) Client Performance – This is one of those issues
- Need better scalers on effects, sounds, graphics, etc to help lower end machines (already lots of additions to coders)
- This thing loves memory like Dan Aykroyd loves bass. We have already improved the memory consumption of the client and taken 100M out of current test best.

(8) Targeting, Camera, etc
- Currently our targeting system differs from many MMOs in terms of our features and how we go about things. We will identify and make a more standard initial setup but allow flexibility.
- Will add additional keybinding selections to allow flexibility

(9) Renown rank gear
- Unfortunately, a new bug (well an old bug we fixed and then managed to break again) which allowed Rank 10 RR 6 players can go to Tier 2 to get better gear and then come back to Tier 1 and own scenarios. We are currently working on a fix.

I hope you enjoyed the Preview Weekend and we thank you for your interest and we hope, patronage of our game.

Guess what folks, that’s the news and I am outta here!

Mark


Right off the bat I forgot to mention how bad the pathing was for all AI. Which goes to show how little time I spent fighting NPC\'s heh.

The NPC\'s would often stand still when you attacked them from range and wouldn\'t come after you. They\'d just chill there while you hurled fireballs at them. You had to get up into melee range to provoke an attack.

The AI and pathing for the pet classes was also almost completely useless. A lot of the time if you sent in your pet he wouldn\'t respond. Or he would stare at a mob for 10 seconds, run over into  a group of 3 enemies and then run to the mob you originally sent it after. Regardless I am very happy to see that it is one of their main concerns. It would be unacceptable to launch the game because 2 of their classes would be broken.

I\'m also glad to see they are looking into adding more animations. A lot of the time your animation just wouldn\'t work and you would deal damage but your guy didn\'t do a cool animation. He would just do the standard auto attack animation.

And if you guys are ever curious about anything in the game check out these boards
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/
The boards run by Mythic are not up hit. Those boards are kind of the unofficial home of warhammer at the moment. Theres lots of info there on classes, gameplay, public quests, RvR etc etc etc..

Oh and also, problem number 9...I exploited frequently over the weekend. It was glorious.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on August 25, 2008, 06:45:34 PM
Yeah, post server info when it comes out. I\'m gonna pick it up on release date most likely.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on August 26, 2008, 05:56:36 AM
I think it\'s fairly obvious we should all play Chaos.

http://www.warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/chaos/Chaos.php
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 02, 2008, 07:41:13 AM
Chaos - Magus for me.
Count me in.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 02, 2008, 09:46:12 AM
I\'m gonna go marauder or chosen.

this should work out nicely.


A couple of my friends here at work are going to get it and play with us also.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 02, 2008, 03:14:01 PM
Ahhh I guess I am up for it too.  AOC was a total let down.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 02, 2008, 03:56:23 PM
I never did bother with AoC, even though I was interested in it early on.  Didn\'t follow Warhammer at all, but from what I\'ve recently read, I\'m most certainly going to pick it up.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 02, 2008, 05:10:56 PM
AOC broke my heart.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 03, 2008, 05:04:05 AM
Please tell me it is not a boring grind fest like WoW.  I really don\'t want to buy a game that is a carbon copy of a game I already own.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 03, 2008, 05:18:08 AM
No, this game is not a WoW clone.

It will surely be compared to WoW as every MMO is. But this game can stand on its own. For me from a pvp perspective it is the fastest paced mmo i\'ve played for sure.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 05, 2008, 01:28:24 PM
Beta is back up. If theres anything anyone wants me to try out or whatever let me know.
Game is running MUCH better than last time. AI for NPC\'s work, pet AI works, Marauder class works and is awesome. Graphics were turned up this time also to higher settings and its quite nice visually. No Conan but definatley a very nice looking game. Still none of the extra video options besides resolution are available so I assume it will look even better come launch as graphics and effects options are added.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 05, 2008, 03:49:53 PM
Signed upf ro the Beta - haven\'t heard anything from \'em tho\'.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 09, 2008, 03:28:49 AM
Did you get your codes yet LIC?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 09, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
Hell to F-KIN A NO.

I\'m actually doing some WoW, while I wait on Warhammer.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Sublimesjg on September 10, 2008, 12:31:42 AM
Quote from: GigaShadow
Please tell me it is not a boring grind fest like WoW.  I really don\'t want to buy a game that is a carbon copy of a game I already own.



i always lol at people that call wow a grindfest... yall have no idea what other grindan\' mmos are go play any korean mmo for instance

hell final fantasy xi was more grinding then wow is
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 10, 2008, 03:11:49 AM
don\'t get me started on grinding in final fantasy.

god damn fucking moat carps
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 15, 2008, 05:23:23 PM
Just preordered my copy of WOTLK CE edition. That is my motivation to make it to level 70 before the game comes out.  I\'m level 42 now , so how long on the average does it take to go from40 to 70| ?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 17, 2008, 12:34:14 PM
got Order characters on Iron Rock. Destruction on Phoenix Throne.

Phoenix is an rp server, no I do not rp, a lot of the people I knew from wow went there. But the Order server i\'m on is just a normal server.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 17, 2008, 02:49:38 PM
dammit!

it comes out tomorrow doesn\'t it?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 17, 2008, 08:44:48 PM
Yes it does

[img=http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3275/zabraxasm000gj9.th.jpg] (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zabraxasm000gj9.jpg)
my marauder
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 18, 2008, 06:49:35 AM
I\'ll probably be getting it after work today.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 18, 2008, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: Living-In-Clip
Just preordered my copy of WOTLK CE edition. That is my motivation to make it to level 70 before the game comes out.  I\'m level 42 now , so how long on the average does it take to go from40 to 70| ?


40 to 60 will be really quick.

60 to 70 is a fucking chore.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 18, 2008, 04:23:19 PM
Hey man, that phoenix server has a super high population and I dont feel like waiting in line to play.


how about we polay destruction on be\'lakor i think its name is?

medium population on that.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 19, 2008, 06:19:27 AM
I\'m very impressed with this game.


Me and my friends are playing order on iron rock.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 19, 2008, 07:00:07 AM
I g0t t0 stay 0n ph0enix just because i kn0w a l0t 0f pe0ple here and that server que thing is indeed a cunt. But they are just d0ing it t0 disc0urage pe0ple fr0m r0lling 0n that server. I\'ll r0ll s0mething 0n Be\'lak0r as well as leveling my guys 0n Ir0n R0ck. What are y0ur names?

btw a key is br0ken 0n my keyb0ard, can y0u guess which 0ne?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 19, 2008, 07:08:46 AM
ha!

on iron rock my guy is named "Lukevanhelsing"

Can you guess what class I play?

I\'m clever.


And honestly I dont mind waiting a little bit to play on a nice full server... But last night when I tried to play on Phoenix it was like a queue of over 200 people waiting. Thats a bit much.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 19, 2008, 07:21:14 AM
0h trust me dude, I waited 20 min last night and I was quite pissed

but i\'m c0nfident that there are g0ing t0 be many pe0ple wh0 aren\'t g0ing t0 put up with that. I expect many pe0ple t0 leave Ph0enix Thr0ne and the ques t0 return t0 n0rmal 0r dissapear.

Shit y0u d0n\'t n0tice h0w 0ften y0u use the letter 0 until its g0ne...i miss y0u letter 0

my guys 0n Ph0enix is named Zabraxas and I am yet t0 level anything 0n Ir0n R0ck. my guy 0n Ir0n R0ck is named Gustav. I still have t0 pick what I want t0 level. But it will pr0bably be a witch hunter.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 19, 2008, 07:26:11 AM
Quote from: Joker
0h trust me dude, I waited 20 min last night and I was quite pissed

but i\'m c0nfident that there are g0ing t0 be many pe0ple wh0 aren\'t g0ing t0 put up with that. I expect many pe0ple t0 leave Ph0enix Thr0ne and the ques t0 return t0 n0rmal 0r dissapear.

Shit y0u d0n\'t n0tice h0w 0ften y0u use the letter 0 until its g0ne...i miss y0u letter 0


So coming from WoW, my question is... is it any good.  I don\'t want to buy another AOC.

Also what classes are good as well?  I like doing damage.  I don\'t like to heal.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 19, 2008, 07:54:55 AM
Quote from: GigaShadow
So coming from WoW, my question is... is it any good.  I don\'t want to buy another AOC.

Also what classes are good as well?  I like doing damage.  I don\'t like to heal.

In terms 0f bugs and br0ken abilities, the launch 0f War d0esn\'t l00k anything like that 0f A0C. I can c0unt 0n 0ne hand the number 0f times i\'ve had a bug in  the past 2 days and th0se were all graphical issues. In terms 0f c0mbat it is abs0lutly n0thing like A0C. N0thing ab0ut warhammer reminds me 0f A0C.

C0mbat is the more like W0W but with many features that make it stand apart. I\'ll write m0re up 0n it later when I get a new keyb0ard cause its really ann0ying typing like this. But it is fun and it will feel like s0mething familiar and  s0mething fresh. PvP is fast paced and L0TS 0f fun, t0 me anyways. I have a blast. Public Quests as I said bef0re will be c0pied by MM0\'s in the future, n0 d0ubt ab0ut it. They are that awes0me.

Classes t0 l00k int0 f0r dealing DPS are


Witch Hunter - Witch Elf - R0gue - Squishy but high melee dps
White Li0n - Marauder - Fr0nt Line Melee - M0derate Melee DPS but higher arm0r - white li0n has a pet
Bright Wizard - S0rcerer - Magic DPS squishies
Engineer - Squig Herder - Ranged DPS - Squig Herder has a pet, Engi has a stati0nary turret
Shad0w Warri0r - Magus - Ranged DPS


0rder are listed 0f the left, Destructi0n 0n the right. Each side has a mirr0r class 0n the 0pp0sing facti0n.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 19, 2008, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: Joker
In terms 0f bugs and br0ken abilities, the launch 0f War d0esn\'t l00k anything like that 0f A0C. I can c0unt 0n 0ne hand the number 0f times i\'ve had a bug in  the past 2 days and th0se were all graphical issues. In terms 0f c0mbat it is abs0lutly n0thing like A0C. N0thing ab0ut warhammer reminds me 0f A0C.

C0mbat is the more like W0W but with many features that make it stand apart. I\'ll write m0re up 0n it later when I get a new keyb0ard cause its really ann0ying typing like this. But it is fun and it will feel like s0mething familiar and  s0mething fresh. PvP is fast paced and L0TS 0f fun, t0 me anyways. I have a blast. Public Quests as I said bef0re will be c0pied by MM0\'s in the future, n0 d0ubt ab0ut it. They are that awes0me.

Classes t0 l00k int0 f0r dealing DPS are


Witch Hunter - Witch Elf - R0gue - Squishy but high melee dps
White Li0n - Marauder - Fr0nt Line Melee - M0derate Melee DPS but higher arm0r - white li0n has a pet
Bright Wizard - S0rcerer - Magic DPS squishies
Engineer - Squig Herder - Ranged DPS - Squig Herder has a pet, Engi has a stati0nary turret
Shad0w Warri0r - Magus - Ranged DPS


0rder are listed 0f the left, Destructi0n 0n the right. Each side has a mirr0r class 0n the 0pp0sing facti0n.


Thanks, one last question though.

Does it feel like a grind?  The reason I ask this is because, yesterday I had planned to stick with WoW and did the daily Sunfury quests - talk about BORING.  After thinking about it, I really can\'t stomach buying WoTLK and grinding another 10 levels out on 3 different characters.  How fast is the leveling?  Does the gear look somewhat decent at low levels?  I hate the way WoW makes you look like some beggar until you reach really high levels.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 19, 2008, 08:33:11 AM
That picture I p0sted 0f my marauder was fr0m level 9 and I th0ught he l00ked pretty c00l. But bef0re that they did make me run ar0und in a speed0 / leather suspenders thing, and yes it l00ked dumb. But I g0t better l00king gear by 9 s0 it wasn\'t bad.

As f0r a grind, I can\'t c0mment 0n end game but the game f0rces y0u int0 0ther z0nes. Y0u get xp fr0m anything and everything s0 theres n0 twinks 0r anything in PvP. I d0n\'t think its a grind because PvP is different every time and the maj0rity 0f this game is all pvp.

Few sh0ts 0f s0me pvp acti0n
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Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 19, 2008, 08:50:38 AM
Giga, this game is defiantly worth checking out.

Play order on Iron fist dammit.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Jumpman on September 19, 2008, 08:54:46 AM
lol at playing this in the first month
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 19, 2008, 09:07:10 AM
whats wr0ng with that?

Luke are you playing right now?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 19, 2008, 09:37:35 AM
Nope, at work.

Gonna be playing all day tomorrow.

And the server is iron rock, not iron fist. Im retarded.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Jumpman on September 19, 2008, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: Joker
whats wr0ng with that?

Too many bugs, servers can never hold the capacity, just a clean up in process.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 19, 2008, 11:14:07 AM
I haven\'t had any problems at all.

They actually have more servers than i thought they would.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 19, 2008, 11:43:09 AM
Aye its a very smooth launch. With what happened to Conan a few months ago it would be dumb to not take a few lessons from that.

Luke I got a going away party to go to tomorrow, not sure what time. But after that i\'ll be around to play the rest of the day.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 19, 2008, 11:51:08 AM
Compared to Conan, this game is a polished, finished product.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 19, 2008, 03:51:20 PM
How is it compared to WoW?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 19, 2008, 05:49:27 PM
Different.


I wouldnt say its better or worse. It\'s just different. Definatly more complicated.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 19, 2008, 07:29:14 PM
Leveling is a heck of a lot more fun than WoW.  It is a lot like WoW, but not in that it is a lot more balanced.  I love the fact you can pvp for xp, money and gear.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 19, 2008, 07:40:08 PM
Giga!

What server you on man?

Please tell me Iron Rock.

I wanna get a guild together.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 19, 2008, 08:43:30 PM
ok, im officially retarded now.

there is both an ironrock AND an ironfist server.

my friends and i are playing on ironfist.

IRONFIST...

The iron thing threw me off... having 2 different servers starting with "iron" in the name is just confusing.

Joker, since you haven\'t played your order guy at all yet you wanna remake one on ironfist? If you make an order character on ironfist ill make a destruction character on phoenix.




i need to lay off the booze.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 20, 2008, 11:59:04 AM
I am on Iron Fist.  I am Chaos.  Level 9 Marauder named Havokk.  Also have a few place holders as well.  Goodbye WoW... never again shall I return.  This game is a blast and improves upon almost everything in WoW.  Best of all no donkey ear elves.  Also on the Chaos side, most of the elves are women - by design.  That is the way it should be lol.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 20, 2008, 01:45:58 PM
well, maybe we shall meet in battle then eh?

and yeah, i still have to see what the higher levels bring, but so far this game is rockin\'. I don\'t see any reason to ever play warcraft again.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 21, 2008, 05:42:54 AM
Eh, all my friends are still on WoW, so I imagine I\'ll stay at WoW.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 21, 2008, 06:48:13 AM
I think its obvious sir that your friends suck then.

Luke i\'m busy leveling destruction on Phoenix Throne at the moment but I will make my Order on Iron Fist
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 21, 2008, 09:44:00 AM
Thats cool. I made a destruction character on phoenix throne. im sure ill play both. leveling isnt hard in this game so i can see having 2 maxed out characters.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 21, 2008, 10:29:06 AM
What\'s the max level?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 21, 2008, 10:32:54 AM
40.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 21, 2008, 10:33:57 AM
WoW goes to 80!
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 21, 2008, 11:35:51 AM
Have fun with all those "kill 1,000 of these" quests.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 21, 2008, 03:32:13 PM
Quote from: Luke
Have fun with all those "kill 1,000 of these" quests.


BC part II.  I just can\'t do it again.  Man leveling in Warhammer is fun - you don\'t even feel like you are leveling.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Jumpman on September 21, 2008, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: Living-In-Clip
WoW goes to 80!

Wow are you serious?

70 was ridiculous.

More levels=bad.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 21, 2008, 04:05:26 PM
Actually, I wasn\'t being serious. Quit being a dolt, Jumpy.

I picked War up a few minutes ago. Installing now.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 21, 2008, 05:36:24 PM
Zorthi - Destruction - Chosen - Iron First server
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 21, 2008, 08:22:09 PM
Man, nobody wants to play order. We need tanks dammit.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 21, 2008, 08:35:06 PM
seriously? on Phoenix Throne it seems like most games are half runepriests half ironbreakers.

btw my name on Phoenix is Zabraxas
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 05:18:27 AM
Yeah man, on order in ironfist its all engineers. I\'ve played RvR where there were literally no tanks on order side.

Of course we get our ass beat.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 22, 2008, 05:35:22 AM
Quote from: Living-In-Clip
Zorthi - Destruction - Chosen - Iron First server


Woohoo!!  Alright now we get to gang bang Luke!

Look for me - Havokk.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 05:39:07 AM
Come find me bitches!!!!!!

Me and Jaropkls will be ready.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 22, 2008, 06:28:34 AM
What race are you?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 06:49:39 AM
Empire - Witch Hunter

Jaropkls is a dwarf Ironwhatever.... the tank.

I\'m thinking about rerolling a swordmaster just cause we need tanks so badly.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 22, 2008, 06:59:54 AM
i\'m rolling something on that server now, not sure how fast I can level him but i\'ll at least get it started. Order is fine on healers there?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 07:31:07 AM
I havent noticed alot of healers either....


hold off though Joker.... Jaropkls and I are discussing the idea of rolling destruction so we can play with giga and LIC. It\'s too bad your playing destruction on another server otherwise we could all play together.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 22, 2008, 07:39:31 AM
Yes, come to the dark side!  I have so many placeholders I can easily start up a new one with you all.  I have a level 1 shaman, sorcerer and witch.  If we can get a solid group of us, we can roll the battle grounds easily.

Tanks and healers are unstoppable.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 10:30:09 AM
Alright, it has been decided. Were switching. I\'m gonna miss my witch hunter but oh well.


Jaropkls is playing a Black Orc and I\'m going to go Marauder.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 22, 2008, 10:50:25 AM
I\'m only level 5, but leveling quick.
All of you guys add me, we\'ll hook up.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 22, 2008, 10:52:15 AM
All right!  I need names - my Marauder is Havokk, I have a Squig Herder named Snottigrub and I will start working on either my shaman or Witch since you guys have the tank stuff covered.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 22, 2008, 10:55:45 AM
Damn - with a Chosen, Black Orc and a Marauder I can play a Goblin Shaman and hide behind your big asses and heal you all.  The collision detection is great for PvP - in a narrow corridor nothing should be able to get by the three of you.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 22, 2008, 11:03:25 AM
you guys all suck cock
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 11:31:53 AM
Play on ironfist Joker.

do it.


Do you have that many friends on phoenix throne?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 22, 2008, 11:35:47 AM
Yeah sadly :(
thats my guild website http://corecorp.info/war

I suppose i\'ll roll something else to play with you guys, if i\'m not there, how will the Order die?


;)
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 11:39:21 AM
Well, honestly, were all so new and low level that I would have no problem rolling on phoenix throne....

If everyone else was down. But honestly you got your guild thing going there so... you know.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 22, 2008, 12:19:25 PM
Quote from: Joker
Yeah sadly :(
thats my guild website http://corecorp.info/war

I suppose i\'ll roll something else to play with you guys, if i\'m not there, how will the Order die?


;)


NC 17 guild eh?  Sapphic Erotica?  I am down for that...

Kidding aside, you can be on two servers and come over here when doing nothing on Phoenix Throne.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 22, 2008, 01:41:16 PM
its just some random guild that picked me up from pvp, I just think the site is spiffy :D Anyways don\'t roll on Phoenix, I rolled a shaman named Crabapple on Ironfist
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 01:45:48 PM
Good deal. Gonna be making my guy soon so I\'ll let you know the name later.

Jar always, ALWAYS names his characters Jaropickles...
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 02:39:43 PM
Alright lets get a final tally...


Me - Marauder -  Character name - Luc

Joker - Shaman - Character name - Crabapple

Jar O Pickles - Black Orc -  Character name - Jaropickles

LIC - Chosen - Character name - zorthi

Giga - ? - ?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 22, 2008, 02:47:22 PM
zorthi lvl 7
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Joker on September 22, 2008, 03:33:13 PM
Oddly the name Jaropickles suits a black orc well.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 22, 2008, 04:17:03 PM
Well, after logging some time in, I\'ll give my thoughts.

Pros:

Presentation is great. You really get the feeling that there is a war going on.

The classes. I love the ORCS (wish I would of made one). Every class just looks plain cool.

The Quests are fun. The Public Quests are a blast, but repetive  and I found myself just clicking over and over, maxing out my influence in that zone and being done with it.

Cons:

The chat is broken.

The community so far sucks. No one talks. It\'s loses the feeling of an MMORPG without any chat.

The grind. You\'re almost forced to PVP along with quests, just to get decent XP. I\'m not a big PVP\'er and that hurts. You get a bad group when PVPing and your XP goes to crap real fast.

The graphics. For some reason, they just lack polish. Mainly the animations.

In conclusion, that\'s just a brief thought. I\'m still keeping my WoW subscription and going to continue leveling my Zorthi in WoW. I\'ll continue also playing Warhammer in hopes that patches and the community fix a lot of the issues. If it isn\'t improved upon quickly, it will stand no chance once WOTLK comes out.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 04:18:34 PM
Quote from: Living-In-Clip

The grind. You\'re almost forced to PVP along with quests, just to get decent XP.


See, I dig that. This game is actually based around a war. I cant wait till the higher levels and the world pvp that will be going on.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 22, 2008, 06:47:57 PM
Quote from: Luke
Alright lets get a final tally...


Me - Marauder -  Character name - Luc

Joker - Shaman - Character name - Crabapple

Jar O Pickles - Black Orc -  Character name - Jaropickles

LIC - Chosen - Character name - zorthi

Giga - ? - ?


Marauder - Havokk (he is rank 13) and I have Squig Herder - Snottigrub rank 7

I won\'t be on as much as I would like this week... real life crap going on.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 22, 2008, 07:52:20 PM
I usually don\'t play much during the week. Saturday and Sunday afternoons are my time.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 23, 2008, 05:13:15 AM
Quote from: Luke
I usually don\'t play much during the week. Saturday and Sunday afternoons are my time.


I will be on off and on during nights this week.  During the weekend I will be on Saturday evening and Sunday afternoon.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 25, 2008, 10:41:32 AM
Eh, I canceled my account already. I wanted to like the game, but it just didn\'t do it for me. The Public Quests are way too boring and I found myself simply PVPing for the sake of XP, which is a shame.

Back to WoW, I suppose.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 25, 2008, 11:33:30 AM
Sorry to hear it.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 25, 2008, 04:00:40 PM
Yeah, just can\'t break away from WoW, I guess. I was some what enjoying leveling up my Lock and then my friend and I are using the refer a friend program to level up warrior / priest PVP combo.

Warhammer\'s lack of polish killed it for me. Things like the Public Quests just aren\'t fun. The PVP is fine, but it is so lopsided most the time, it hardly seemed worth it.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 25, 2008, 04:03:55 PM
Well me and Jar are pretty into this game. Someday, you come back.... We\'ll probably still be playing.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: cloud345 on September 26, 2008, 11:30:35 PM
Did anyone have trouble installing it? I\'m trying to install it on my laptop and it seems to stall around 15%. When the disc is in my laptop gets very loud so its sort of worrisome. Just wondering if anyone else had the same sort of issues.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 27, 2008, 09:14:19 AM
It takes a really long time to install... I thought it froze for me.


Just let it sit... Should be fine.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: cloud345 on September 27, 2008, 12:15:42 PM
Where is everyone making their characters?
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on September 27, 2008, 01:17:37 PM
ironfist - destruction side.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: cloud345 on September 28, 2008, 03:03:16 AM
I got a lvl 5 sorceress on ironfist dark elves. Name Kokytos
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on September 28, 2008, 06:36:25 PM
This game is so much fun.  Saw look online today.  We need to get a guild up and running just so we can keep track of each other.
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: cloud345 on September 30, 2008, 03:19:21 PM
I have 3 characters now.

Kokytos- lvl 7 Sorceress Dark Elf
Olympus- lvl 4 Chosen Chaos
Leprechaun- lvl 4 Squig Herder Goblin
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: Luke on October 01, 2008, 05:20:29 AM
Who\'s "look"?

Ha!
Title: Warhammer Online next month
Post by: GigaShadow on October 01, 2008, 06:01:23 AM
Quote from: Luke
Who\'s "look"?

Ha!


LMAO!!  I was so tired when I posted that first thing in the morning.  LUKE.