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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Mr. Kennedy on August 29, 2008, 08:19:58 AM
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/26454655?
I called this a couple weeks ago, and it makes sense since she is like an uber conservative and a strong supporter of drilling. She makes a lot of sense for the country right now.
However, McCain will now have to back off his Obama is inexperienced angle seeing as how Palin has only been governor for two years.
Overall, I think this is a boom or bust pick that will lead to a history making election either way.
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A hotty for VP. Holy Shit.
Well played, McCain. Well played. Clinton supporters are now googling Sarah Who? Palin.
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Obama just lost the female vote.
Hillary supporters are jumping for joy.
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Palin is a milf. She seems like a good strong woman and a pretty level headed politician. I\'ve started to lean towards McCain after I\'ve heard from some people in the service of Obama\'s indifference toward the military.
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What a joke...all you McCain supporters are clearly blinded by why he did this....to clearly get hillary voters...and he questions Obama\'s judgement?..:rolleyes:...he didn\'t pick a vp based on that person bein\' able to instantly take over if he dies...it looks desperate to me....after all of that talk about Obama\'s inexperience, then he picks her?...sorry,..you guys are clearly being fed bulls**t to tha 8th degree.
Let\'s see how this pan\'s out...since alot of the so called on the fence white voters that won\'t vote for Obama because they don\'t know enough about him...even tho they\'ve had 18 months to get to know him, let\'s see how fast these on the fence white voters embrace Mrs. Palin..over the course of what? 2 months?...my guess they will embrace her with open arms and act like she has the experience of a 20 year polititian...really desperate move by McCain to get hillary voters
That is the only reason why he choose her,..to get her votes and he clearly was not thinking about the "country first" as he likes to put it...Mitt Romney clearly was the choice i thought he would\'ve picked....McCain is weak on economics and Romney has a firm grip on it...i thought for sure he was going to pick him...again,..let\'s see how fast these "undecided" white folks embrace miss sunshine in 2 months....
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What a joke...all you McCain supporters are clearly blinded by why he did this....to clearly get hillary voters...and he questions Obama\'s judgement?..:rolleyes:...he didn\'t pick a vp based on that person bein\' able to instantly take over if he dies...it looks desperate to me....after all of that talk about Obama\'s inexperience, then he picks her?...sorry,..you guys are clearly being fed bulls**t to tha 8th degree.
Let\'s see how this pan\'s out...since alot of the so called on the fence white voters that won\'t vote for Obama because they don\'t know enough about him...even tho they\'ve had 18 months to get to know him, let\'s see how fast these on the fence white voters embrace Mrs. Palin..over the course of what? 2 months?...my guess they will embrace her with open arms and act like she has the experience of a 20 year polititian...really desperate move by McCain to get hillary voters
That is the only reason why he choose her,..to get her votes and he clearly was not thinking about the "country first" as he likes to put it...Mitt Romney clearly was the choice i thought he would\'ve picked....McCain is weak on economics and Romney has a firm grip on it...i thought for sure he was going to pick him...again,..let\'s see how fast these "undecided" white folks embrace miss sunshine in 2 months....
Welcome to the world of politics. The name of the game, GET VOTES. If we were truly voting for the best people for the job Obama and McCain wouldn\'t be our choices. In a single swoop, McCain just stole the following demographics:
Females & Angry Hillary Supporters
Energy Nuts
Young men who like hotties
On the fence conservatives
Are those good reasons? No... but it sure the hell is a lot of votes. As it stood he was not going win on Nov. 4. He shook things up and now I think he has the upper hand.
Let us also not forget that being Governor is an EXECUTIVE position. McCain, Biden, and Obama have not held that kind of position.
Obama went with the safe plain vanilla pick, McCain went outside the box, and as much I don\'t care for the guy, I think he made the right move.
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She is a cardboard standup to attract women voters. At least she\'s not a walking corpse like her running mate. If McCain clutches his chest and keels over in office, she will be a puppet president because she has virtually no experience. EXECUTIVE of the state of Alaska???? That\'s kind of like saying you\'re the President and CEO of a company that makes whoopie cushions. Not exactly Bill Gates or anything. It should be obvious that politics in Juneau, AK is very different from politics in Washington DC.
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I\'m voting for McCain now. She\'s hot.
vpilf
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What a joke...all you McCain supporters are clearly blinded by why he did this....to clearly get hillary voters...and he questions Obama\'s judgement?..:rolleyes:...he didn\'t pick a vp based on that person bein\' able to instantly take over if he dies...it looks desperate to me....after all of that talk about Obama\'s inexperience, then he picks her?...sorry,..you guys are clearly being fed bulls**t to tha 8th degree.
Let\'s see how this pan\'s out...since alot of the so called on the fence white voters that won\'t vote for Obama because they don\'t know enough about him...even tho they\'ve had 18 months to get to know him, let\'s see how fast these on the fence white voters embrace Mrs. Palin..over the course of what? 2 months?...my guess they will embrace her with open arms and act like she has the experience of a 20 year polititian...really desperate move by McCain to get hillary voters
That is the only reason why he choose her,..to get her votes and he clearly was not thinking about the "country first" as he likes to put it...Mitt Romney clearly was the choice i thought he would\'ve picked....McCain is weak on economics and Romney has a firm grip on it...i thought for sure he was going to pick him...again,..let\'s see how fast these "undecided" white folks embrace miss sunshine in 2 months....
LOL you and Core sound pissed. Guess McCain hit a homerun with this. I actually give her more qualification than Obama considering she is the Governor of Alaska, which is an EXECUTIVE office and her state borders two countries. Palin has a resume of achievements - does Obama? I think you forget Core, that she is the head of state at the heart of the oil issue. She is also the CIC of National Guard in Alaska. This is real change that you can see. :thumb:
Talk about change from the same old Washington politics... it doesn\'t get any better than this. Biden is a lobbyist pawn who constantly sticks his foot in his mouth. You complained that McCain was more of the same old politics, yet the true cardboard candidate - Obama picks a babysitter who has over four decades in Washington!!!!
I love it! I haven\'t been this excited for the Republican Party ever. She is fiscally conservative, doesn\'t take shit from anyone including her own party and she loves guns. She compliments McCain perfectly. Thumbs down to Obama for lacking class and accusing her of being inexperienced, when he has even less experience. Clips - if you knew anything about the GOP you would know Romney is not well liked.
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I actually had a reply for Cored about kneejerking. But I had to wait for the jerk to happen. ;)
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All McCain\'s campaign needs to do to sway me over is release a picture of Palin in a swim suit :)
I do think she is a good choice. I agree with the executive position on her resume. She has some experience, more than Obama can say. I read on Yahoo that her son is in the Army? I think that is a good thing because she is directly affected by troops being over there. Who cares if she is a governor of Alaska. That doesn\'t mean she won\'t do a good job. Clinton was a governor before he became president and he was praised as a president by many. And just because its Alaska, doesn\'t mean that state doesn\'t have its share of problems that need to be addressed. Alaska is one of the hot spots for oil. It is a hot spot for environmental protection in terms of oil drilling, nature preserves and the fishing industry. Palin has experience in those areas and is more understanding than say if we had a choice from New Jersey which is a big oil refinery. Mad props to McCain. Every day, I sway more and more to him.
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heh, found this image of her.
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I kinda wish she ran for president. Maybe I\'d pay a little more attention to politics and actually give a rats ass when the president gives a speech :D
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I\'m not angry. I don\'t know anything about Palin, and I\'m not passing judgement on her yet. I just think it\'s obvious that the Republican party chose her as the running mate in a calculated ploy to mop up votes. I think they don\'t care about her qualifications or lack thereof. All they care about is the short term goal.
A lot of democratic voters are very comfortable with Obama\'s experience and comfortable with him being elected president. He collected millions of votes in the primaries. Obama then went on to select a VP with more experience than himself. I see that as a commitment to fulfill the responsibilities of the office.
McCain on the other hand selects a VP with minimal experience solely for the purpose of collecting votes. What does that say about his commitment to the office?
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I\'m not angry. I don\'t know anything about Palin, and I\'m not passing judgement on her yet. I just think it\'s obvious that the Republican party chose her as the running mate in a calculated ploy to mop up votes. I think they don\'t care about her qualifications or lack thereof. All they care about is the short term goal.
A lot of democratic voters are very comfortable with Obama\'s experience and comfortable with him being elected president. He collected millions of votes in the primaries. Obama then went on to select a VP with more experience than himself. I see that as a commitment to fulfill the responsibilities of the office.
McCain on the other hand selects a VP with minimal experience solely for the purpose of collecting votes. What does that say about his commitment to the office?
Just like the Dems selected a black man for the purpose of collecting votes. Hillary was the better candidate, but thanks to Super Delegates and the Dems screwed up Primary system you have the party basically selecting the nominee.
I think McCain would have a difficult time selecting a running mate with more experience than himself would he not?
OB-One KaNewbie has no room to talk. He has zero executive experience. People were talking about Palin long before OB-One KaNewbie was the nominee. Many Conservatives have hailed McCain\'s choice - not only because of gender, but because of her stance on issues.
I can see the Obamatons trying to figure out if they can remove and replace HairPLUGZZZZ aka Biden and put Hillary back in.
Oh and Titan I believe that is a Photoshoped picture. She was in Vogue though.
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Obama was selected through a democratic process. People voted for him, and he attained a lead in the delegates. The very fact that the primary race was so close supports this. If the party had "selected a black man for the purpose of collecting votes," they would have ended the battle much sooner.
Hillary was not the better candidate. She\'s a cynical bitter hack who votes for her own short term gain and holds grudges. She is poison to the Obama campaign, and democrats are not plotting to remove Biden.
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I\'m not angry. I don\'t know anything about Palin, and I\'m not passing judgement on her yet. I just think it\'s obvious that the Republican party chose her as the running mate in a calculated ploy to mop up votes. I think they don\'t care about her qualifications or lack thereof. All they care about is the short term goal.
A lot of democratic voters are very comfortable with Obama\'s experience and comfortable with him being elected president. He collected millions of votes in the primaries. Obama then went on to select a VP with more experience than himself. I see that as a commitment to fulfill the responsibilities of the office.
McCain on the other hand selects a VP with minimal experience solely for the purpose of collecting votes. What does that say about his commitment to the office?
It\'s politics. Durr.
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I wanna see her on Jizzonmyglasses.com
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Wow...the intelligence factor of the Republican party has hit an all time low...now we just throw basic common sense outta the window,..and people are drooling over this chic cause she\'s a hottie?...THAT qualifies her?...after McCain drilled the media about Obama\'s experience he then turns around and picks this chick?...even in her speech today she spoke of clinton and her 18 million voters,...McCain is not thinking about the future of the country with this chick at all...there is no way you republicans can spin this...
I\'d really like to see McCain criticize Obama on experience with his vp by his side...he did thee exact opposite of what Obama did...Obama picked somebody with Economic & foreign policy experience...sure he could\'ve picked hillary which would have been the political thing to do but he didn\'t, he picked somebody that would compliment him....and the e-mails from hillary voters have already been coming in, and alot of them have stated that they are insulted by McCains move....americans hopefully are not dumb enough to see into this weak and desperate ploy McCain is trying to pull...
I read on Yahoo that her son is in the Army? I think that is a good thing because she is directly affected by troops being over there.
Joe Biden\'s son is also getting ready to go over there himself as well... your point?
And what those hillary voters will find out about miss sunshine is that she disagrees with just about everything hillary stands for,..so there goes that...and the let\'s discuss the judgement factor of McCain...he only met this chic twice..once in january,..then at a secret meeting last night...and he feels she could take over just from that one encounter?...that\'s laughable...this is thee biggest flip-flop in the history of flip flops...and a really desperate move by McCain...
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Wow...the intelligence factor of the Republican party has hit an all time low...now we just throw basic common sense outta the window,..and people are drooling over this chic cause she\'s a hottie?...THAT qualifies her?...after McCain drilled the media about Obama\'s experience he then turns around and picks this chick?...even in her speech today she spoke of clinton and her 18 million voters,...McCain is not thinking about the future of the country with this chick at all...there is no way you republicans can spin this...
I\'d really like to see McCain criticize Obama on experience with his vp by his side...he did thee exact opposite of what Obama did...Obama picked somebody with Economic & foreign policy experience...sure he could\'ve picked hillary which would have been the political thing to do but he didn\'t, he picked somebody that would compliment him....and the e-mails from hillary voters have already been coming in, and alot of them have stated that they are insulted by McCains move....americans hopefully are not dumb enough to see into this weak and desperate ploy McCain is trying to pull...
Joe Biden\'s son is also getting ready to go over there himself as well... your point?
And what those hillary voters will find out about miss sunshine is that she disagrees with just about everything hillary stands for,..so there goes that...and the let\'s discuss the judgement factor of McCain...he only met this chic twice..once in january,..then at a secret meeting last night...and he feels she could take over just from that one encounter?...that\'s laughable...this is thee biggest flip-flop in the history of flip flops...and a really desperate move by McCain...
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Go back to off topic Jumpman.
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What I\'m not qualified to make surface level insults on any of the candidates? Do I need a party\'s political blinders like you before I continue?
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Your surface level insult was not to a candidate but to clips.
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I\'ll take the head of state of our country\'s most important energy state over a tax hiking public speaker any day.
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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/29/reporters-notebook-the-rough-and-tundra-of-alaska-politics/
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kneehigh boots=slut
hell yeah
also anyone who is upset by this pick needs to fucking wake up and stop being so naive. this is how politics works why do you think kennedy picked johnson cause he knew he needed the hillbilly vote to get in office. same thing here. if think obama is in this for any other reason than he\'s a well spoken black man then you are sadly mistaken. im not voting for either obama or mccain im just pointing out somethings that should be very obvious to everyone but seemed to be getting ignored
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McCain did it soley to get hillarys voters nothing more...he was not thinking about somebody who could truly replace him...he only met with this chic twice....and all that talk about Obama\'s inexperience then he picks her to step in and be prez when this chic has 0 experience?...McCain is the biggest hypocrite ever & to wrecklessly choose an vp based on gender votes (not qualifications)...seriously questions his judgement.
Again Obama picked a dude that compliments him where he\'ll bolster his economic & foreign policy standings...then the sheep that are conservatives want to say that because Obama picked a dude that is from washington with experience, it\'s going to be the same old same old...:rolleyes:..but if Obama picked a vp with no experience and an unknown the conservatives would\'ve been all over that...pathetic...they can\'t have it both ways...this chic...out of all of the qualified republicans McCain could have picked...he chooses her...for the sole fact that he wants hillary voters....i\'m simply baffled by how conservatives really want to find another reason why he truly picked her....are conservatives really that stupid?......oh yeah they are..*looks at the current prez*
Honestly do you truly believe McCain would\'ve picked this chic if Obama picked hillary?....nope..McCain is just playing games and is desperate to do anything to get hillary\'s voters, instead of truly picking a person that can honestly take over if something happens to him...
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I\'ll take the head of state of our country\'s most important energy state over a tax hiking public speaker any day.
Obama wants to tax folks makin\' over $250,000 a year,...i don\'t see anything wrong with that,...with all the debt the u.s. has and the economic conditions...where do you think this money is going to come from to fix this?...out of thin air?...and it\'s not even going to impact those folks, but it will add revenue for programs for the country and renewable energy programs.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/26454655?
I called this a couple weeks ago, and it makes sense since she is like an uber conservative and a strong supporter of drilling. She makes a lot of sense for the country right now.
However, McCain will now have to back off his Obama is inexperienced angle seeing as how Palin has only been governor for two years.
Overall, I think this is a boom or bust pick that will lead to a history making election either way.
Senators are worthless.
I\'d take a governor for two years over a senator for 8 any day of the week. Especially a hotty like that. Are you telling me she couldn\'t get shit done on the international stage? Frenchies would be on their knees.
Obama picks someone different from himself and more experience in foreign policy (Which he lacks) and he is praised, yet McCain picks someone that has done well for a state as a governor, has done well with the environment while being FOR drilling in Alaska and he is seen as doing something wrong?
Obama doesn\'t have a chance in hell of wining this thing so it really doesn\'t matter. The people who actually vote in this country are not going to be swayed by his pulpit like delivery and his "Humbleness" Heh... Isn\'t doing the DNC in a football stadium actually the opposite of humble?
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So if I make surface level insults I can join the fun? Sweet.
A lot of democratic voters are very comfortable with Obama\'s experience and comfortable with him being elected president.
Why wouldn\'t they be comfortable with someone with zero experience, you are all deaf dumb and blind kids and you sure can\'t play a mean pinball so you\'re obviously blindly following anyone.
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McCain did it soley to get hillarys voters nothing more...he was not thinking about somebody who could truly replace him...he only met with this chic twice....and all that talk about Obama\'s inexperience then he picks her to step in and be prez when this chic has 0 experience?...McCain is the biggest hypocrite ever & to wrecklessly choose an vp based on gender votes (not qualifications)...seriously questions his judgement.
Again Obama picked a dude that compliments him where he\'ll bolster his economic & foreign policy standings...then the sheep that are conservatives want to say that because Obama picked a dude that is from washington with experience, it\'s going to be the same old same old...:rolleyes:..but if Obama picked a vp with no experience and an unknown the conservatives would\'ve been all over that...pathetic...they can\'t have it both ways...this chic...out of all of the qualified republicans McCain could have picked...he chooses her...for the sole fact that he wants hillary voters....i\'m simply baffled by how conservatives really want to find another reason why he truly picked her....are conservatives really that stupid?......oh yeah they are..*looks at the current prez*
Honestly do you truly believe McCain would\'ve picked this chic if Obama picked hillary?....nope..McCain is just playing games and is desperate to do anything to get hillary\'s voters, instead of truly picking a person that can honestly take over if something happens to him...
dude this what i was trying to say stop buying into the bullshit this is how politics work. of course he picked her to get hillary voters but youre acting like this some new low. this is how this shit works welcome to politics. and if you honestly think obama is in this cause of his leadership ability then youre just as ignorant as the hillbillies who wont vote for him soley cause he\'s black. obama is not some fucking savior here to help everyone rise up hes a fucking spokesperson, a pr man, thats it. mcain is a good ole boy and wont do anything for this country either. stop buying into the hype and realize you are being force fed bullshit. maybe you just really want a black man to be president and thats fine just come out and say it. i cant say i blame you. but stop acting like the real reason you want him is cause he\'s the best person for the job cause thats a big load of crap
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If McCain gets elected, and all goes well, we could be looking at Palin for Prez in 2012/2016...
Change? Obama offers no change, he has the same foreign policy as Bush and McCain. I\'ll concede that McCain offers little if any change, but with Palin fighting the establishment we may actually get something done.
Ron Paul may not be on the ticket, Palin just made McCain the next best thing.
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All I know is, with those boots on and that skirt, I keep thinking of her on all fours with that skirt pulled up to her waist.
That\'s all.
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Time for tabloid stuff
"There could be calls below to delete this information. Calls that this type of information is muckraking and \'below us\'. The truth is not below any progressive, nor any citizen of the world that is one heartbeat away from having Palin as leader of the free world. We simply ask that she be forthright, honest, and not waste our time with such juvenile games that anyone with eyes can see as fabrication.
Bristol Palin rightfully should be able to embrace her child in public as her own, with no shame, and no quarter. And a mother should be just as accepting."
Link to article :
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223 (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223)
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dude this what i was trying to say stop buying into the bullshit this is how politics work. of course he picked her to get hillary voters but youre acting like this some new low. this is how this shit works welcome to politics. and if you honestly think obama is in this cause of his leadership ability then youre just as ignorant as the hillbillies who wont vote for him soley cause he\'s black. obama is not some fucking savior here to help everyone rise up hes a fucking spokesperson, a pr man, thats it. mcain is a good ole boy and wont do anything for this country either. stop buying into the hype and realize you are being force fed bullshit. maybe you just really want a black man to be president and thats fine just come out and say it. i cant say i blame you. but stop acting like the real reason you want him is cause he\'s the best person for the job cause thats a big load of crap
I know the politcal game ifs full of bulls**t and yes it really doesn\'t matter who is in there...but acting like that it completely doesn\'t matter,..i think you\'re wrong...as seen with president bush,...he started an unjust war in iraq...a war that wasn\'t needed and cost the u.s. a ton of money and soldiers lives....so it does matter who is in the white house, you have be wary of a person that will take the nation to war in a heartbeat...that\'s just one example...the economy,jobs, housing crisis...these are real issues and you can\'t just nonchalantly say.."uhm it doesn\'t matter who is in there".....
Yes all politicians feed you bulls**t, but at some point you\'d like to take them at their word when they are campaigning...you can\'t take McCain seriously for pickin\' this chic...he wasn\'t thinking about somebody that can actually take over if he croaks...as far as me votin\' for Obama cause he\'s black?...i admit part of me is rootin\' for him in that aspect, cause it would be truly historic, but that is not my main reason...for picking him,..as i\'ve mentioned before in the last election when there were african american candidates i didn\'t support either...i supported bush..even tho i consider myself a dem, so there goes that notion of me votin\' for obama strickly cause he\'s black..
And i\'m standing behind Obama just as strong as other conservatives are standing behind the joke that is McCain, yet i do not see you writing a whole paragraph directing the same argument at them...and i\'am actually voting for him because i do think he\'s the best person for the job.
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And i\'m standing behind Obama just as strong as other conservatives are standing behind the joke that is McCain, yet i do not see you writing a whole paragraph directing the same argument at them...and i\'am actually voting for him because i do think he\'s the best person for the job.
touché
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clips,
when more and more money comes out of your paycheck every week for all these wonderful social programs that you don\'t qualify for, are you still going to be happy?
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Time for tabloid stuff
"There could be calls below to delete this information. Calls that this type of information is muckraking and \'below us\'. The truth is not below any progressive, nor any citizen of the world that is one heartbeat away from having Palin as leader of the free world. We simply ask that she be forthright, honest, and not waste our time with such juvenile games that anyone with eyes can see as fabrication.
Bristol Palin rightfully should be able to embrace her child in public as her own, with no shame, and no quarter. And a mother should be just as accepting."
Link to article :
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223 (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223)
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That guy is a nut and your post is insulting. This is a total fabrication by the author of that post and it is disgraceful. This is why the the democrats are hated so much - thank the kos kiddies.
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clips,
when more and more money comes out of your paycheck every week for all these wonderful social programs that you don\'t qualify for, are you still going to be happy?
If Obama was white you wouldn\'t be seeing him rabidly defending the socialist and his grand plan of redistributing wealth. What programs of his do you support clips? Name them, if you can.
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That guy is a nut and your post is insulting. This is a total fabrication by the author of that post and it is disgraceful. This is why the the democrats are hated so much - thank the kos kiddies.
Gotcha.
The other party doesn\'t run smear campaigns or have fanatic fans.
Way to put the blinders on there, bud.
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clips,
when more and more money comes out of your paycheck every week for all these wonderful social programs that you don\'t qualify for, are you still going to be happy?
And you know this to be fact?...McCain is considering raising the social security payroll tax...meaning more money will be coming outta your paycheck for social security,..he also supports privatizing social security,..which is a bad move...and that is a fact..Obama as i\'ve stated before is taxing anybody over $250,000 & up and he\'s going to cut those tax breaks for the oil companies,..y\'know those guys that were poppin\' crystal & wine when they made the biggest profit in american history?....yeah those guys...
If Obama was white you wouldn\'t be seeing him rabidly defending the socialist and his grand plan of redistributing wealth. What programs of his do you support clips? Name them, if you can.
Wow,..so now i\'m basically a racist?...Giga, seriously i\'ve had those conversations with you when i was supporting bush in the last election, regardless of those afri. american candidates....you get amnesia real quick when you want to try to get your faulty point across...:rolleyes:...obama wants to use the taxes from the richer folk towards renewable energy and other programs...when you name programs that McCain wants then i\'ll post Obama\'s...,i don\'t see a problem with obama taxing the rich when in fact they will barely even feel it...
I respected McCain for his service,...but i clearly don\'t respect his integrity and judgement for picking this chic....just really desperate & not thinking about a true replacement at all...in the media they say people don\'t know Obama,,,even tho he\'s been campainging for 18 months,...so you mean to tell me that the american people will know this chic in a matter of two month\'s?...if i hear of all these glamorous reports of people stating they actually know this chic, in a matter of two months compared to obama\'s 18 months,...then there is clearly a racist slant against Obama...well there is anyway, but it will be even more clear.
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That guy is a nut and your post is insulting. This is a total fabrication by the author of that post and it is disgraceful. This is why the the democrats are hated so much - thank the kos kiddies.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2944356420080901?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Its also front page on cnn.
I guess this wasnt really fabricated at all huh?
How does that crow taste?
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Do people really give a shit about that?
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Clips, both sides picked a VP to help balance their ticket. Moreso for McCain since as Skeletor, his seemed pretty off-balance to begin with.
But it doesn\'t really matter why they picked their VP\'s, it just matters what do they all stand for and intend to do once they get elected.
I\'m still not into the whole Republican agenda, but if McCain does get elected, I\'ll admit that I haven\'t been so attracted to a Vice President since Levi Parsons Morton. Meow!
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It does not really make a difference to me personally as teenage pregnancy is all around us in the world.
However, it does speak volumes considering her political stance on teenage pregnancy. Thats like John Edwards or Clinton speaking out against extramarital affairs. lolz
Also, I don\'t understand how they think that admitting her daughter\'s current pregnancy negates the possibility of a previous one.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2944356420080901?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Its also front page on cnn.
I guess this wasnt really fabricated at all huh?
How does that crow taste?
Do you have a reading comprehension problem. The post from KOS stated that Sarah Palin\'s youngest with downs syndrome was really her daughters. It is not.
The fact that her daughter is five months pregnant now is really no concern of any ones other than her family.
Nice try lib.
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It does not really make a difference to me personally as teenage pregnancy is all around us in the world.
However, it does speak volumes considering her political stance on teenage pregnancy. Thats like John Edwards or Clinton speaking out against extramarital affairs. lolz
Also, I don\'t understand how they think that admitting her daughter\'s current pregnancy negates the possibility of a previous one.
Sort of like Edwards, Obama, Gore, and the entire Democratic party speaking out on poverty, global warming, etc... :rolleyes:
"Do as I say, not as I do." At least Palin practices what she preaches.
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And you know this to be fact?...McCain is considering raising the social security payroll tax...meaning more money will be coming outta your paycheck for social security,..he also supports privatizing social security,..which is a bad move...and that is a fact..Obama as i\'ve stated before is taxing anybody over $250,000 & up and he\'s going to cut those tax breaks for the oil companies,..y\'know those guys that were poppin\' crystal & wine when they made the biggest profit in american history?....yeah those guys...
Wow,..so now i\'m basically a racist?...Giga, seriously i\'ve had those conversations with you when i was supporting bush in the last election, regardless of those afri. american candidates....you get amnesia real quick when you want to try to get your faulty point across...:rolleyes:...obama wants to use the taxes from the richer folk towards renewable energy and other programs...when you name programs that McCain wants then i\'ll post Obama\'s...,i don\'t see a problem with obama taxing the rich when in fact they will barely even feel it...
I respected McCain for his service,...but i clearly don\'t respect his integrity and judgement for picking this chic....just really desperate & not thinking about a true replacement at all...in the media they say people don\'t know Obama,,,even tho he\'s been campainging for 18 months,...so you mean to tell me that the american people will know this chic in a matter of two month\'s?...if i hear of all these glamorous reports of people stating they actually know this chic, in a matter of two months compared to obama\'s 18 months,...then there is clearly a racist slant against Obama...well there is anyway, but it will be even more clear.
Obama wants to nationalize the oil industry. Hey it can\'t get any worse than $4 a gallon right? Oh wait... government managing the oil industry? We are screwed.
Also the richest 3 percent in this country pay 97 percent of the taxes it collects. Why not tax them more. I mean being successful is a crime right?
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Obama wants to nationalize the oil industry. Hey it can\'t get any worse than $4 a gallon right? Oh wait... government managing the oil industry? We are screwed.
Also the richest 3 percent in this country pay 97 percent of the taxes it collects. Why not tax them more. I mean being successful is a crime right?
How is it nationalizing when the gov\'t was giving them tax breaks anyway?...I think it is a problem when the american public is struggling with gas prices yet these guys are celebrating,..why not give us a break at the pump when they could...when they were making record profits if they really cared about the american public they could have dropped the prices a bit, yet they did not....after-all we are part of the reason those folks made those profits.
As far as the rich folks bein\' taxed?....Obama is not punishing success,..he too would be part of those folks bein\' taxed and again those folks would barely feel it.....and let\'s be realistic here...you know how much of a debt the u.s. is in...when bill clinton left the white house, he left bush with a sweet surplus..enter the repulbicans & the surplus dissappeared,..what 911?...yeah so what?...they didn\'t have to spend that surplus spending billions iraq....taxes have to be raised somewhere to get the economy back on track, and the money is not going to come outta thin air... or maybe you propose that we borrow more money from china like the current prez is doing?..:rolleyes:...if you want to blame somebody for the shape of the economy, blame the republicans...it\'s going to take more than eight years to get it back on track..
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem. The post from KOS stated that Sarah Palin\'s youngest with downs syndrome was really her daughters. It is not.
The fact that her daughter is five months pregnant now is really no concern of any ones other than her family.
Nice try lib.
My point is that its kinda funny how both stories break within a day of each other.
If she is lying to the public about the DS baby, that is everyone\'s business in the United States if she will continue to be VP. I hope she doesn\'t continue preaching family morality values if she cant control it in her home.
Yes I know the best parents can have the worst kids................
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Sort of like Edwards, Obama, Gore, and the entire Democratic party speaking out on poverty, global warming, etc... :rolleyes:
"Do as I say, not as I do." At least Palin practices what she preaches.
Kind of hard to make that connection as I do not believe there has ever been a poor politician. SO by your logic, your buddies on the right can\'t speak about that shit either right?
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can barely read the text...higher resolution pic would help.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u69hmzY
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is that pic real? if its shopped its well done
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can barely read the text...higher resolution pic would help.
Struggle, it\'s the best I know of. I read it while high, Im sure most others can manage. :)
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My point is that its kinda funny how both stories break within a day of each other.
If she is lying to the public about the DS baby, that is everyone\'s business in the United States if she will continue to be VP. I hope she doesn\'t continue preaching family morality values if she cant control it in her home.
Yes I know the best parents can have the worst kids................
It broke to dispel the fabrication that she is the mother of Palin\'s youngest. It shouldn\'t the focus of debate. Kids have nothing to do with the candidate. There are pictures of Palin very pregnant.
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Yet, I can guarantee if this was on the other side and it was a scandal with Obama, you\'d be all over posting it.
That is why politics and talking politics is retarded.
;)
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A picture only proves one thing. I dont see a date.
BTW..Im just playing the game you always seem to play. Those can be from the last verified pregnancy...............
At the very least, Obama took the high road on this one, which is more than I can say for McCain had the shoe been on the opposite foot.
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Impressive luckee, trying to spin this to make McCain look bad.
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The libs here are pissed at the VP selection. It\'s a good day for me. It really is. :D Clips is going nuts! :laughing:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u69hmzY
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Funniest vid ...ever..:laughing:..."uhm i believe we should give HOT bottled water to dehydrated babies"..:rofl:....uhm what have you done to improve the life of afri americans?"....awkward silence....McCain replies..uhm...what? you said er..uhm...:laughing:
Impressive luckee, trying to spin this to make McCain look bad.
..it does look bad...it questions his judgement....you guys seem to keep acting like McCain didn\'t drill the american public stating Obama doesn\'t have experience when clearly this chic doesn\'t...it\'s going to be pretty hard for him to present that argument with her at his side,..she also has some drama in her own state,...
She\'s wrapped up in some type of scandal that involves her pressuring somebody in her staff to fire her ex brother in law...that\'s going thru a nasty custody battle with her sister,..if this proves to be true,...it\'ll question her judgement & abuse of power,..but you conservatives go ahead and continue to be hypnotized by her mediorce looks....that\'s all you guys have to stand on..."uhm...wow she\'s hot"...:rolleyes:...doesn\'t take much to impress the simple minds of conservatives.
The libs here are pissed at the VP selection. It\'s a good day for me. It really is. Clips is going nuts!
I\'m just a bit shocked at McCains choice,..he did it srtickly for hillary voters & he didn\'t pick a true replacement, the integrity and respect i had for him have dropped massively,...he really lowered his standards on this one...
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Funniest vid ...ever..:laughing:..."uhm i believe we should give HOT bottled water to dehydrated babies"..:rofl:....uhm what have you done to improve the life of afri americans?"....awkward silence....McCain replies..uhm...what? you said er..uhm...:laughing:
..it does look bad...it questions his judgement....you guys seem to keep acting like McCain didn\'t drill the american public stating Obama doesn\'t have experience when clearly this chic doesn\'t...it\'s going to be pretty hard for him to present that argument with her at his side,..she also has some drama in her own state,...
She\'s wrapped up in some type of scandal that involves her pressuring somebody in her staff to fire her ex brother in law...that\'s going thru a nasty custody battle with her sister,..if this proves to be true,...it\'ll question her judgement & abuse of power,..but you conservatives go ahead and continue to be hypnotized by her mediorce looks....that\'s all you guys have to stand on..."uhm...wow she\'s hot"...:rolleyes:...doesn\'t take much to impress the simple minds of conservatives.
I\'m just a bit shocked at McCains choice,..he did it srtickly for hillary voters & he didn\'t pick a true replacement, the integrity and respect i had for him have dropped massively,...he really lowered his standards on this one...
What exactly does her daughter being pregnant have to with the campaign? If one of Obama\'s daughters were pregnant it shouldn\'t be an issue either.
Palin has more experience than Obama period. What has he done clips? Name something - anything that he has accomplished.
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A picture only proves one thing. I dont see a date.
BTW..Im just playing the game you always seem to play. Those can be from the last verified pregnancy...............
At the very least, Obama took the high road on this one, which is more than I can say for McCain had the shoe been on the opposite foot.
Here you go luckee:
http://alaskareport.com/news48/x61145_trig.htm
Last verified pregnancy was eight years ago and this is from the spring of this year.
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Why is this pregnancy thing an issue when this is clearly more important: :D ;)
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The population of Alaska is somewhere around 600,000 so that would put it population wise on par with say the population of Ft Worth, Texas. With no true urban areas as anyone who has been to Alaska knows. just 2 years ago she was mayor of a town with a pop slightly over 8,000 i believe. a position in which council members themselves have said is more ceremonial than anything, plus when she left that office the town of Wasila was left around $20,000 in debt. So to talk up her "executive" experience is grasping at straws at best.
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What exactly does her daughter being pregnant have to with the campaign? If one of Obama\'s daughters were pregnant it shouldn\'t be an issue either.
Palin has more experience than Obama period. What has he done clips? Name something - anything that he has accomplished.
I didn\'t say anything about her daughter,..i was talking about the scandal that\'s goin\' on her own state..(not a good look for her)....Obama could have went to wall st. when he graduated from college, but he chose to help those folks on the southside of chicago,..that speaks alot of his character and shows that he actually wants to help people....and he\'s also worked with conservatives to round up old nuclear missles from russia..or something along those lines...
Obama is groomed and ready to lead,...& he has a plan for america, and he has a guy with experience to back him up....McCain did thee exact opposite,..how can you hire a vp that has 0 experience?...seriously there is no way you can spin that.....and alot of hillary supporters are NOT falling for it...alot say that they are insulted by his move. Also McCain only met with this chic twice..once in january then again just last thursday....and he feels she\'s qualified from just that one visit?....:laughing:...keep reachin\'
As far as her kids are concerned, i think they should be off limits, but if she\'s acting all high and mighty on familiy values and then to have her 17 yr old daughter pregnant, it does cast a bit of slant against her....for all of her talk of abstinence, then this story comes out,..& of course she has to say that she\'s proud of her daughter to save face....and i\'m assuming that the father of this child is probably bein\' paid some money to go along with marrying this chic...seriously what young teenager do you know that are REALLY like "yeah i\'m going to marry this chic that had my child"..:rolleyes:..it happens, but more not likely to happen.
It just seems really forced and it looks like they are doing damage control.....at the very most it\'s just a bit embarrassing that her daughter is pregnant at such a young age, with her bein a political figure with those strong abstinence values...but yeah,..kids should be off limits.,..
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I didn\'t say anything about her daughter,..i was talking about the scandal that\'s goin\' on her own state..(not a good look for her)....Obama could have went to wall st. when he graduated from college, but he chose to help those folks on the southside of chicago,..that speaks alot of his character and shows that he actually wants to help people....and he\'s also worked with conservatives to round up old nuclear missles from russia..or something along those lines...
Obama is groomed and ready to lead,...& he has a plan for america, and he has a guy with experience to back him up....McCain did thee exact opposite,..how can you hire a vp that has 0 experience?...seriously there is no way you can spin that.....and alot of hillary supporters are NOT falling for it...alot say that they are insulted by his move. Also McCain only met with this chic twice..once in january then again just last thursday....and he feels she\'s qualified from just that one visit?....:laughing:...keep reachin\'
Since you are going off Democrat Talking Points:
“For Barack Obama to argue that he’s experienced enough to be president because he’s running for president is desperate circular logic and it’s laughable. It is a testament to Barack Obama’s inexperience and failing qualifications that he would stoop to passing off his candidacy as comparable to Governor Sarah Palin’s executive experience managing a budget of over 10 billion dollar dollars, and more than 24,000 employees.” —Tucker Bounds, spokesman John McCain 2008
Round up nuclear missiles in Russia??? What lie are you going to make up next - he turned water into wine? :fro: Obama has done nothing since being elected - you can\'t even think of one thing. Talk about pathetic.
Obama doesn\'t have as much experience as Palin. Legislative experience for 2 years? You really need to look at what the difference is between legislative and executive positions and then talk about qualifications.
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I\'m still waiting for this great experience that Palin has. But hey - oh well.
McCain is going senile and is friggin\' old.
Palin is inexperienced and a woman!
Vote for change.
Vote black - you won\'t go back.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/prediction-market-starts_n_123136.html
How funny if that comes true?
And how can you seriously sit here and defend this pick? I mean, he met her ONCE before selecting her. That is no way to make an educated selection on an important role.
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I\'m still waiting for this great experience that Palin has. But hey - oh well.
McCain is going senile and is friggin\' old.
Palin is inexperienced and a woman!
Vote for change.
Vote black - you won\'t go back.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/prediction-market-starts_n_123136.html
How funny if that comes true?
Sounds like a bunch of scared Huffingtonpost libturds to me. Look how unhinged clips and you have become since her nomination. This is great!
What do you care what his pick is? You were never going to vote for him anyway. Like I said, she scares the hell out of the Democrats and their chances. He has a team vetting for him. Her name was brought up long ago in conservative circles and she is well liked. Cry more and listen to more of your Tori Amos CD\'s.
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Sounds like a bunch of scared Huffingtonpost libturds to me. Look how unhinged clips and you have become since her nomination. This is great!
What do you care what his pick is? You were never going to vote for him anyway. Like I said, she scares the hell out of the Democrats and their chances. He has a team vetting for him. Her name was brought up long ago in conservative circles and she is well liked. Cry more and listen to more of your Tori Amos CD\'s.
You debate like Uni. All you do is throw a bunch of pointless insults out. I mean, every single topic, everyone acts civil and then you come in and start making all these insults and being down right rude to people for no apparent reason. Is there a reason you can\'t simply respect that everyone has an opinion?
I\'m not voting period.
Nice try tho\'.
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What part the libturds (directed at the Huffington Post) or the Tori Amos CD\'s? I am sorry that my comment about your taste in music offended you.
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Didn\'t offend me. I am just amazed at how immature you act in this forum. It\'s nothing personal. Just that every other person in here can act like a civil adult, but you always have to go out of your way to try and be sarcastic or offensive.
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LIC and civil adult?
divide by zero. Can not compute. ;)
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It is an internet forum... who cares? Like you said, nothing personal. Besides I don\'t remember who I disagree with on a daily basis, so no grudges. Except for our token black dude... he on the other hand... ;)
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Hey, I\'ve been civil for awhile now, god damnit.
And yeah, it\'s nothing personal. Just seems..odd.
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Obama doesn\'t have as much experience as Palin. Legislative experience for 2 years? You really need to look at what the difference is between legislative and executive positions and then talk about qualifications.
"Executive" positions, blah blah blah...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxMCp1vydEI&feature=bz301
Even their campaign strategist can\'t name a thing she\'s done.
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This girl is certainly on a roll.
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"Executive" positions, blah blah blah...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxMCp1vydEI&feature=bz301
Even their campaign strategist can\'t name a thing she\'s done.
Nah running a state is nothing. By the way - what has Obama done? No can seem to answer the question.
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This girl is certainly on a roll.
LOL that is the best you have?
This is much better:
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You mean I get to photoshop in this picture contest?
FUCK YEAH!
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Last I checked, grown men can hang with whomever they want until they decide to part ways.
Also, last I checked, underage drinking is illegal. Fraternizing with a person that is prejudice is not.
SImple enough for you?
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Last I checked, grown men can hang with whomever they want until they decide to part ways.
Also, last I checked, underage drinking is illegal. Fraternizing with a person that is prejudice is not.
SImple enough for you?
I guess that would be valid if Palin\'s daughter were on the ticket. However, Obama attending a racist church for 20 years does raise eyebrows. As well as hanging out with unrepentant terrorists like Bill Ayers. He must think people are stupid... oh wait.
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Last I checked, grown men can hang with whomever they want until they decide to part ways.
Also, last I checked, underage drinking is illegal. Fraternizing with a person that is prejudice is not.
SImple enough for you?
Like anyone in this country has never drank underage
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Like anyone in this country has never drank underage
Of course, I only brought it up b/c of the morality issues.
Kind of like the anti-gay, gay congressmen that have "come out" in recent years. :)
Course it would make for better news if Bristol the Pistol were running for something and not her mother.
I need to be entertained and Giga is failing me!
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Since you are going off Democrat Talking Points:
“For Barack Obama to argue that he’s experienced enough to be president because he’s running for president is desperate circular logic and it’s laughable. It is a testament to Barack Obama’s inexperience and failing qualifications that he would stoop to passing off his candidacy as comparable to Governor Sarah Palin’s executive experience managing a budget of over 10 billion dollar dollars, and more than 24,000 employees.” —Tucker Bounds, spokesman John McCain 2008
Round up nuclear missiles in Russia??? What lie are you going to make up next - he turned water into wine? :fro: Obama has done nothing since being elected - you can\'t even think of one thing. Talk about pathetic.
Obama doesn\'t have as much experience as Palin. Legislative experience for 2 years? You really need to look at what the difference is between legislative and executive positions and then talk about qualifications.
Before we get off track..the point in all of this was McCain criticizing obama\'s experience...Obama hasn\'t really been in the senate long enough to build up his resume like McCain, but while campaigning he has come up with a plan for america and he has a vp with experience to back him up....McCain hired a vp with 0 experience.....after all of his talk of the vp being a very critical decision for the next prez....he takes the low road for the sake of getting hillary\'s women voters...but his logo is country first right?....:rolleyes:...no way he was thinking country first when he picked her....even conservatives in your own party are scratching their heads at McCains decision.
Obama may not have alot of experience, but right now his judgement is looking alot better than McCains....he could have easily picked hillary and wiped the floor with the republicans, but he didn\'t,..he went with somebody that could truly compliment him.....and somebody with experience that can take over...should anything happen to Obama.....you seriously think palin can step in and lead if something happens to McCain?.....nope...
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O giga, dont talk about Palin being able to manage anything. When she was mayor, she left the town in debt, but Im sure you knew that.
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Before we get off track..the point in all of this was McCain criticizing obama\'s experience...Obama hasn\'t really been in the senate long enough to build up his resume like McCain, but while campaigning he has come up with a plan for america and he has a vp with experience to back him up....McCain hired a vp with 0 experience.....after all of his talk of the vp being a very critical decision for the next prez....he takes the low road for the sake of getting hillary\'s women voters...but his logo is country first right?....:rolleyes:...no way he was thinking country first when he picked her....even conservatives in your own party are scratching their heads at McCains decision.
Obama may not have alot of experience, but right now his judgement is looking alot better than McCains....he could have easily picked hillary and wiped the floor with the republicans, but he didn\'t,..he went with somebody that could truly compliment him.....and somebody with experience that can take over...should anything happen to Obama.....you seriously think palin can step in and lead if something happens to McCain?.....nope...
What plan for America has Obama come up with????? Palin has experience. More than Obama and that is what get you isn\'t it?
Obama\'s judgement? Like voting against the surge? Yeah good judgement there eh? Picking Biden was a mistake as well. The guy is part of the same old Washington politics and Obama is running on a platform of "Change". Pretty funny he picks a guy who has been part of the same old business as usual crowd for the past 35 years.
McCain has PROVEN he can work with members of both parties. He doesn\'t always agree with his own party, despite Obama\'s false ad claiming he voted with Bush 90 percent of the time. Do you even question the Obamamessiah\'s statements? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
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What plan for America has Obama come up with????? Palin has experience. More than Obama and that is what get you isn\'t it?
Obama\'s judgement? Like voting against the surge? Yeah good judgement there eh? Picking Biden was a mistake as well. The guy is part of the same old Washington politics and Obama is running on a platform of "Change". Pretty funny he picks a guy who has been part of the same old business as usual crowd for the past 35 years.
McCain has PROVEN he can work with members of both parties. He doesn\'t always agree with his own party, despite Obama\'s false ad claiming he voted with Bush 90 percent of the time. Do you even question the Obamamessiah\'s statements? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
Damn we\'ve already been discussing bits and pieces of Obama\'s plan....i\'m not gonna go thru his whole plan,...go to his site if you want an in depth assesment. LOL at the surge....so what he voted against it...he was against the war from the jump...that is what truly matters....and it seems his judgement was better than bush\'s in that aspect...we would\'ve saved some money and american lives if we would not have engaged iraq.
Sorry but you cannot spin his choice for picking biden,...you are so transparent, you are only saying that because McCain picked palin...if obama picked somebody with very little experience the conservatives would have been all over that.....Hmm so i guess McCain is going to be lookin\' to this chic for advice on issues?...riiight....:rolleyes:...that\'s like Peyton manning or brett farve asking a rookie for advice on quarterbacking...and McCain did vote with bush 90% of the time,...now since bush is goin\' down as one of the presidents with the worst approval rating ever,..McCain wants to seperate himself from it....
It\'s a shame too,..pres. bush gave a satellite speech praising McCain, when he clearly could have been there at the convention,..it\'s really sad when the republican party wants nothing to do with their own prez....i guess if bush was there he would have had to shake hands with McCain and they were seriously sh*tin\' bricks about that...:D...
And picking a candidate just to get women votes is lame...admit it...you know that there are waaay more qualified personnel than this chickenhead you conservatives are jerkin\' off over at the convention...hmmm do you pick somebody that can truly take over if you croak or do you pick somebody, that MIGHT help you get women voters?....i go with the former,...it was an idiotic decision for McCain to pick her, and seriously questions his judgement.
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Palin does seem pretty silly of a choice. I started reading up on her and she might as well have been an executive librarian.
It\'s like McCain walked into a bar, found a cute bartender who was pro-guns and, after a couple beers, joked that she should be his VP. Only, she accepted and hilarity ensued.
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Palin does seem pretty silly of a choice. I started reading up on her and she might as well have been an executive librarian.
It\'s like McCain walked into a bar, found a cute bartender who was pro-guns and, after a couple beers, joked that she should be his VP. Only, she accepted and hilarity ensued.
im gonna have to agree there.after reading about her she does seem like the type who can talk her way into anything but starts firing people to cover for her incompetence
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Damn we\'ve already been discussing bits and pieces of Obama\'s plan....i\'m not gonna go thru his whole plan,...go to his site if you want an in depth assesment. LOL at the surge....so what he voted against it...he was against the war from the jump...that is what truly matters....and it seems his judgement was better than bush\'s in that aspect...we would\'ve saved some money and american lives if we would not have engaged iraq.
Sorry but you cannot spin his choice for picking biden,...you are so transparent, you are only saying that because McCain picked palin...if obama picked somebody with very little experience the conservatives would have been all over that.....Hmm so i guess McCain is going to be lookin\' to this chic for advice on issues?...riiight....:rolleyes:...that\'s like Peyton manning or brett farve asking a rookie for advice on quarterbacking...and McCain did vote with bush 90% of the time,...now since bush is goin\' down as one of the presidents with the worst approval rating ever,..McCain wants to seperate himself from it....
It\'s a shame too,..pres. bush gave a satellite speech praising McCain, when he clearly could have been there at the convention,..it\'s really sad when the republican party wants nothing to do with their own prez....i guess if bush was there he would have had to shake hands with McCain and they were seriously sh*tin\' bricks about that...:D...
And picking a candidate just to get women votes is lame...admit it...you know that there are waaay more qualified personnel than this chickenhead you conservatives are jerkin\' off over at the convention...hmmm do you pick somebody that can truly take over if you croak or do you pick somebody, that MIGHT help you get women voters?....i go with the former,...it was an idiotic decision for McCain to pick her, and seriously questions his judgement.
It just tears you up that the GOP is excited about this candidate doesn\'t it? Bush had to hurricane to manage - if it had been bad and he had gone to the convention you would have been crying about that.
As for your 90 percent of the time claim - WRONG. You left out the little fact that Nobama\'s claim was for the year 2007.
However, McCain\'s support of President Bush\'s position has been as low as 77 percent (in 2005), and his support for his party\'s position has been as low as 67 percent (2001).
So to sum up, McCain has indeed voted to support the unpopular Bush 95 percent of the time most recently, but less so in earlier years. And Obama has voted pretty close to 100 percent in line with fellow Democrats during his brief Senate career.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_john_mccain_voted_with.html
Now lets see, what is Congress\'s approval rating? Wow... 17.8 percent!!!! Obama is a part of Congress isn\'t he? Voting nearly 100 percent along the lines of a terrible Congress - now what was that about approval ratings again?
So the Democrat led Congress is at an all time low in approval ratings.
Now answer me, what has Obama done? What has he done? You can\'t name anything. I was hoping you would pull another lie out of your ass like the Russian Nuke claim you made yesterday.
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we would\'ve saved some money and american lives if we would not have engaged iraq.
I guess you are assuming we wouldn\'t have had any more attacks against us being the pussies we would have been?
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Now lets see, what is Congress\'s approval rating? Wow... 17.8 percent!!!! Obama is a part of Congress isn\'t he? Voting nearly 100 percent along the lines of a terrible Congress - now what was that about approval ratings again?
So the Democrat led Congress is at an all time low in approval ratings.
Now answer me, what has Obama done? What has he done? You can\'t name anything. I was hoping you would pull another lie out of your ass like the Russian Nuke claim you made yesterday.
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490
100% along party lines when he is there. Hell of a lot of NVs for the little man.
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I guess you are assuming we wouldn\'t have had any more attacks against us being the pussies we would have been?
And you assumed that Saddam had something to do with 911?....again, do you believe that people that wouldn\'t hesitate to blow themselves up in a heartbeat gives a s**t about who is in the whitehouse?
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And you assumed that Saddam had something to do with 911?....again, do you believe that people that wouldn\'t hesitate to blow themselves up in a heartbeat gives a s**t about who is in the whitehouse?
You are missing the entire point. By being tough we get them before they get us. We prevent other attacks by being the first to know and first to react. Not the first to pacify and appease.
What has Obama done clips?
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Minus the fact we\'ve accomplished nothing in Iraq.
But back on topic to Palin.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/anti-jewish-ter.html
Anti-Jewish Terror is "God\'s Judgment"
From the Church she attends.
http://www.alternet.org/election08/97350/
A fun read.
A good watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QevraCQUc
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Minus the fact we\'ve accomplished nothing in Iraq.
But back on topic to Palin.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/anti-jewish-ter.html
Anti-Jewish Terror is "God\'s Judgment"
From the Church she attends.
http://www.alternet.org/election08/97350/
A fun read.
A good watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QevraCQUc
LOL the Jews should be wary of the guy who is endorsed by Farrahkan.
As for your other links - I will pass. None are credible and no embed no watchie.
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You are missing the entire point. By being tough we get them before they get us. We prevent other attacks by being the first to know and first to react.
So by that logic, I should be able to attack anyone I feel is a threat to me or anyone I know is a possible threat to me.
If I do that, my ass gets locked up! If my government does it, they receive immunity.
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I think someone blamed the faulty economy entirely on the republicans in this thread. It was too far back for me to quote but it angered me.
This person clearly doesn\'t understand economics. If I set a time bomb to go off during Obama\'s presidency, does that make him responsible for the bomb?
The reason the economy sucks is the federal reserve. End of story.
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LOL the Jews should be wary of the guy who is endorsed by Farrahkan.
As for your other links - I will pass. None are credible and no embed no watchie.
Ppl can endorse who ever they wish, who has openly accepted Farrakhans endorsement?
Funny, you read text links that cant be embedded. Or are you trying to be cute as usual?
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I think someone blamed the faulty economy entirely on the republicans in this thread. It was too far back for me to quote but it angered me.
This person clearly doesn\'t understand economics. If I set a time bomb to go off during Obama\'s presidency, does that make him responsible for the bomb?
The reason the economy sucks is the federal reserve. End of story.
Thats far from the only reason, just like Clinton is not responsible for the prosperity most of us experienced during that time.
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she\'s on tv now spewing the usual political rhetoric gush
still, I\'d fuck her
then send her into the kitchen to make me something to eat.
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I would fuck her too, but I do not think she made any real impact vs Bidens speech.
Biden is going to eat her up head t o head.
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I would fuck her too, but I do not think she made any real impact vs Bidens speech.
Biden is going to eat her up head t o head.
You are delusional! She was fantastic. I can\'t even remember Hairplugzzz speech. Head to head she will destroy Biden. Better hope he doesn\'t sound drunk like he did this past week on the campaign trail.
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All she did was bash & criticize without offering any real solutions to what her & mcCain has in store for the country....really weak and hollow speech...oh and good post LIC..:thumb:.....it\'s good to see that she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it..she\'s a flip-flopper already....:rolleyes:...good stuff!!..:thumb:....and biden is going to rip this chic apart...no contest at all...
I think someone blamed the faulty economy entirely on the republicans in this thread. It was too far back for me to quote but it angered me.
This person clearly doesn\'t understand economics. If I set a time bomb to go off during Obama\'s presidency, does that make him responsible for the bomb?
The reason the economy sucks is the federal reserve. End of story.
Hmmm....if all of this economic stress with the housing industry,..the spending of billions with the war in iraq, the weak dollar,lost jobs...and other issues all happened under their watch, who do you think is to blame?....yes some things are out of their control, but overall this happened under their watch, and before s**t hit the fan, they could have done something about it.
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You are delusional! She was fantastic. I can\'t even remember Hairplugzzz speech. Head to head she will destroy Biden. Better hope he doesn\'t sound drunk like he did this past week on the campaign trail.
You can\'t remember Biden\'s speech because you aren\'t voting for him and Obama. Kinda like how Luckee can\'t remember Palin\'s speech.
Funny how that works.
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And you assumed that Saddam had something to do with 911?....again, do you believe that people that wouldn\'t hesitate to blow themselves up in a heartbeat gives a s**t about who is in the whitehouse?
Not Saddam, but terrorist cells in general. We are much more aggresive now than before 911. Under clinton they just bomb our buildings and blow up our boats with no retaliation at all.
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I think someone blamed the faulty economy entirely on the republicans in this thread. It was too far back for me to quote but it angered me.
This person clearly doesn\'t understand economics. If I set a time bomb to go off during Obama\'s presidency, does that make him responsible for the bomb?
The reason the economy sucks is the federal reserve. End of story.
And the reason for the economy doing well in the Clintons is the wheels set in motion by the republicans before him. He also had very little in the way of natural disastors and not much in the way of war since back then it was apparently policy to just let terrorist blow shit up.
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All she did was bash & criticize without offering any real solutions to what her & mcCain has in store for the country....really weak and hollow speech...oh and good post LIC..:thumb:.....it\'s good to see that she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it..she\'s a flip-flopper already....:rolleyes:...good stuff!!..:thumb:....and biden is going to rip this chic apart...no contest at all...
Hmmm....if all of this economic stress with the housing industry,..the spending of billions with the war in iraq, the weak dollar,lost jobs...and other issues all happened under their watch, who do you think is to blame?....yes some things are out of their control, but overall this happened under their watch, and before s**t hit the fan, they could have done something about it.
Actually she was against it, but willing to let someone else pay for it. Can you tell me that if you had someone come into your house and say we want to give you a pool, you\'d say go away? Then they dig the hole and say they don\'t have the money to finish it. What do you do? Finish the pool or fillit up? Friggen flip flopper.
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Interesting...
http://www.yahoo.com/s/947617
It\'s ok to bolster her experience...it\'s not ok to lie about it...
And the reason for the economy doing well in the Clintons is the wheels set in motion by the republicans before him. He also had very little in the way of natural disastors and not much in the way of war since back then it was apparently policy to just let terrorist blow shit up.
Natural disasters?...:rolleyes:..c\'mon vid....yeah they do cost money but that is why business and the general public pay for insurance...the country do not carry the brunt of natural disasters...as far as war is concerned we did have to go into afghanastan, but not iraq...
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What has Obama done?
I used a top secret research tool named Google to find this from another forum. Some kid got together links and there\'s a graphic, you know, for the MTV generation.
His bold legislative work on the Illinois Death Penalty, and how he made a difference between life and death:
http://www.icadp.org/page236.html (http://www.icadp.org/page236.html)
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/12/obama.death.pena... (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/12/obama.death.penalty.ap) /
His sponsorship of a bill that brought health insurance to 150,000, including 70,000 uninsured Children, again, during his time serving in the Illinois Statehouse:
http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/14/f... (http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/14/fact_check_on_milbanks_claim_t.php)
http://mediamatters.org/items/200712170003 (http://mediamatters.org/items/200712170003)
His work on both the Immigration bill during his time in the US senate and his sponsorship of Ethics legislation (something he did both while in the State House, and in the Senate) that called for some of the most impactful reform regarding lobbyists since Watergate (as he likes to term it):
http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/14/f... (http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/14/fact_check_on_milbanks_claim_t.php)
http://feingold.senate.gov/~feingold/releases/07/01/200... (http://feingold.senate.gov/~feingold/releases/07/01/20070108.html)
Here’s a chart of many of his accomplishments during his 8 years in the Illinois state house -
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgraphics8.nytimes.com%2Fimages%2F2007%2F07%2F29%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2F30obama.GRAPHIC.gif&hash=eafa1ad1c24887952696feb891573cf8a965dcd9)
and his sponsored and co sponsored Bills in the U.S. Senate.......which include worthwhile bills dealing with a wide range of issues, from Election reform bills to the Cooperative Proliferation Detection reduction Act (w/t Sen. Lugar) to Internet database transparency Act.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/271 (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/271) /
http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2005/Novembe... (http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2005/November/20051101170118adynned0.8910791.html)
http://obama.senate.gov/press/060908-senate_passes_c (http://obama.senate.gov/press/060908-senate_passes_c) /
http://thomas.loc.gov (http://thomas.loc.gov/) / (Select Obama’s name from the Senator drop down)
This does not lists all of his accomplishments, nor does it deals with his accomplishments prior to entering elected office.
That\'s a lot to digest, I know. Imagine if he had experience how much larger the graphic would be!
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I used a top secret research tool named Google to find this from another forum. Some kid got together links and there\'s a graphic, you know, for the MTV generation.
That\'s a lot to digest, I know. Imagine if he had experience how much larger the graphic would be!
Those sites you link are shill sites for Obama. The Chicago-Sun site contains an article in which he references himself as the source! He has done nothing except write two memoirs.
He hasn\'t sponsored a bit of legislation since being elected to the senate. Nice try though. Merely signing your name to piggyback on legislation someone else authored is not an accomplishment.
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Interesting...
http://www.yahoo.com/s/947617
It\'s ok to bolster her experience...it\'s not ok to lie about it...
Natural disasters?...:rolleyes:..c\'mon vid....yeah they do cost money but that is why business and the general public pay for insurance...the country do not carry the brunt of natural disasters...as far as war is concerned we did have to go into afghanastan, but not iraq...
What has Obama done clips?
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You can\'t remember Biden\'s speech because you aren\'t voting for him and Obama. Kinda like how Luckee can\'t remember Palin\'s speech.
Funny how that works.
I watched Plugz\' Biden speak. He said nothing except something about change - all I could do was laugh since this was coming from a guy who has been part of the same Washington good old boy club for 35 years.
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Now lets see, what is Congress\'s approval rating? Wow... 17.8 percent!!!! Obama is a part of Congress isn\'t he?
And McCain is part of Congress too, moron.
This forum is a sandbox.
Between Giga posting racist photographs of Obama and the rest of you tools slobbering over Palin because you ain\'t got a piece ever since you booted up your Prodigy connections to access porn, there isn\'t any room for civil debate.
I came back to see if you had grown up. I realized I should have stayed far far away.
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Don\'t wait on us to beg you to stay. You know where the LOG OUT button is.
And..
lol @ shill sites for Obama.
I\'ve heard it all now.
Any kind of pro-Obama statement from another site is now deemed a shill site.
Gotcha!
Oh and..
P.S - If McCain / Palin get elected, any one want to bet how long it takes for a scandal to break out about Palin being banged by a secret service agent? She\'s got five kids. That bitch likes to fuck. I mean, let\'s just be honest.
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What has Obama done clips?
Eik...listed some things,..i\'ve mentioned some a page back,..and i\'ve also stated,...that he hasn\'t really been in the senate that long, so his resume isn\'t going to be that long..and anything i list you will just disregard it just like you did with Eik\'s info.....but McCain has been part of washington & part of the republican congress for the past eight years....how can he defend the state of the economy plus state that he will do things differently when he was a part of it?...he can\'t,...but he obviously is convicing the sheep that are conservatives.
Abother point is that experience is overrated,...we have a prez with experience and look at the state the country is in...Obama has new ideas for country and a real plan to get the country out of debt and to bring the u.s. back to respectability in the world.....
And you republicans absolutely hate bush and are fear mongers...i\'m watching the RNC give a somewhat dedication to 911 & nowhere in the slide did they show bush overlooking the damage caused on that day, yet they showed guliani?.....911 was what will put a blueprint on bush\'s legacy, and yet the republicans did not show one pic of him at all...just shameful....and why show slides of 911 in the first place?...to show that if you vote for democrats, that another 911 will happen?...or that you\'re stronger on security of the country?....while the conservatives were lookin\' all pitiful lookin\' at that slide they should also know that we invaded a country that had nothing to do with 911,....pathetic...
Palin\'s very shallow and it was so obvious with her "crack the glass ceiling remark" as to why McCain picked her,...for hillary voters....again he picked her for all the wrong reasons...the RNC is over as well as the DNC....now let\'s get down to business.
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Any kind of pro-Obama statement from another site is now deemed a shill site.
Gotcha
I\'m glad somebody here see\'s thru giga\'s shallow rhetoric...
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Everyone seems to be making valid points... except Giga.
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because you believe what you believe.. If you can\'t read through the bullshit and impossible promises the democrats have pushed then so be it. It\'s impossible to promise the world and not somehow pay for it. Their total disregard for oil exploration is retarded. Pulling out of Iraq is going to happen anyway with either president. Whatever..
Maybe it\'s because I didn\'t grow up in a church and I have such distaste for preachers that I just can\'t stand Obama and all that he is. It doesn\'t really matter though. We only have 60 more days to listen to his bullshit anyway.
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Great Speech last night by McCain. Race is tight. I think the Republicans will be around another 8 years (4 for McCain, at least 4 more for Palin). :D
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-UH!
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Great Speech last night by McCain. Race is tight. I think the Republicans will be around another 8 years (4 for McCain, at least 4 more for Palin). :D
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-UH!
McCain did have a great speech. He was absolutely correct when he said this country is too divided and partisan. He criticized both parties and IMO he is the only candidate who can mend this country. Obama and Biden are both way too far to the left. They don\'t realize that America is mostly in the center. The Democrats have caved into the far left of their party, while McCain is the most independent Republican.
Hopefully, when McCain wins the Democrats can jettison George Soros and the moveon.org people into an abyss.
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If you want to elect some almost 80 year old man, who is already showing signs of losing his memory, then so be it. Personally, I would prefer someone in the oval office that actually may live another four years and can give a speech / interview without having one of his aides around to help him through it.
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I really wish McCain won the Rep nom in 2000. What could have been...
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McCain had to stop and read the telepromp...at least three times...three long pauses...and his speech?...zzzz...
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Thanks for adding so much to the discussion
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Thanks for adding so much to the discussion
And nowhere do i see your informational contribution..:rolleyes:
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:rolleyes:
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And nowhere do i see your informational contribution..:rolleyes:
I just was reading along to see what people had to say. I had no intentions to add anything till I felt the need to point out you had nothing to say, as usual.
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I just was reading along to see what people had to say. I had no intentions to add anything till I felt the need to point out you had nothing to say, as usual.
Say what?...:rolleyes:......so if you\'re just reading to see what people are saying, and you knew you weren\'t going to contribute...why make a dumbass statement?....if you want to be ass, you\'ve already shown yourself to be one countless times....might as well add another thread under your belt eh?...:gtfo:
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If you want to elect some almost 80 year old man, who is already showing signs of losing his memory, then so be it. Personally, I would prefer someone in the oval office that actually may live another four years and can give a speech / interview without having one of his aides around to help him through it.
Thats really funny considering Obama can\'t function without a telepromter:
"Uhhhh change uhhhh hope uhhh uhhh..."
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Say what?...:rolleyes:......so if you\'re just reading to see what people are saying, and you knew you weren\'t going to contribute...why make a dumbass statement?....if you want to be ass, you\'ve already shown yourself to be one countless times....might as well add another thread under your belt eh?...:gtfo:
You need to call 1 800 555 WHAH
Obama\'s speaking ability? Don\'t make me laugh...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8cNtH1mULo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ted9Hzn8foY&feature=user
^^^ Old purple lips own words.
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This almost feels like an Xbox 360 vs. PS3 thread... only it\'s being replaced by politics. The banter back and forth is on the level of children at times... well mostly by Giga.
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McCain had to stop and read the telepromp...at least three times...three long pauses...and his speech?...zzzz...
I\'ll take a shitty orator any day than someone who speaks well with absolutely no substance.
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Say what?...:rolleyes:......so if you\'re just reading to see what people are saying, and you knew you weren\'t going to contribute...why make a dumbass statement?....if you want to be ass, you\'ve already shown yourself to be one countless times....might as well add another thread under your belt eh?...:gtfo:
I just wanted to see what people were saying about the speeches but instead I have to deal with your 10 IQ never adds anything to the conversation annoying ass. I\'m sorry I talk down to people that deserve to be talked down to.
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McCain had to stop and read the telepromp...at least three times...three long pauses...and his speech?...zzzz...
I know right? No other politician does that huh? lolz
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I\'ll take a shitty orator any day than someone who speaks well with absolutely no substance.
McCain has no substance.
See how that works?
It\'s opinion!
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I just wanted to see what people were saying about the speeches but instead I have to deal with your 10 IQ never adds anything to the conversation annoying ass. I\'m sorry I talk down to people that deserve to be talked down to.
Nobody was even talking to your dumbass...you came outta nowhere and made a sarcastic remark towards me.....and you believe yourself to be talking down to me?....bro don\'t flatter yourself....you\'re not even on my level.....you\'re one of thee biggest idiots on the forum....even now you\'re adding "0" quality to the thread....go sit yer silly simpleton ass down somewhere.
You need to call 1 800 555 WHAH
Obama\'s speaking ability? Don\'t make me laugh...
We\'re comparing speeches,..and Obama\'s blew grandpa\'s speech outta the spectrum...
I\'ll take a shitty orator any day than someone who speaks well with absolutely no substance.
McCain has substance?....he\'s been part of the same eight year administration and party that\'s been in charge for the past eight years, yet he promises to do things differently?.....keep dreamin\'
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At least in this forum we have a back and forth discussions (albeit childish and idiotic at times). I can\'t go on Digg or Reddit anymore because all content has been pushed aside in favor of McCain/Palin bashing.
Like I said, i\'m no McCain fan. But I\'ve never seen the media treat a candidate as favorably as they treat Obama, it makes me sick. If post an anti-obama article on Digg, your dug down, the opposite is also true. So it at least makes me happy that I get to hear both sides of the argument here... even if I disagree with everything liberals stand for.
Ron Paul in 2012!
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Nobody was even talking to your dumbass...you came outta nowhere and made a sarcastic remark towards me.....and you believe yourself to be talking down to me?....bro don\'t flatter yourself....you\'re not even on my level.....you\'re one of thee biggest idiots on the forum....even now you\'re adding "0" quality to the thread....go sit yer silly simpleton ass down somewhere.
People like you are why I don\'t partake in political discussion on here. I wasn\'t looking to add anything to the thread other than calling you out.
The guy that uses "cats" in sentences is saying I\'m an idiot, hahaha. Not on your level? Simpleton? This is all too funny dawg.
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People like you are why I don\'t partake in political discussion on here. I wasn\'t looking to add anything to the thread other than calling you out.
The guy that uses "cats" in sentences is saying I\'m an idiot, hahaha. Not on your level? Simpleton? This is all too funny dawg.
Seriously boz...just stop...you\'re a joke....and the same guy that criticizes me for using "cats" is using "dawg" in the same sentence.....like i said you\'re not on my level....keep postin\' tho...i like watchin\' you make a fool outta yourself...
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Hahahaha wow you are dense. I was mocking you. If you want to make an ass of yourself any more just message me.
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We\'re comparing speeches,..and Obama\'s blew grandpa\'s speech outta the spectrum...
Can you stfu with this retarded bullshit? Impossible to take anything you say seriously when you post garbage like this. You don\'t see Giga calling Obama a nigger in any post do you?
You\'re voting for Obama, we know and we don\'t care.
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this is fun :)
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But I\'ve never seen the media treat a candidate as favorably as they treat Obama, it makes me sick.
This is so true up until a couple days ago. Although the RNC was carried on 3 less stations than the DNC and her speach still had as many viewers as Obamas. John Mccain couldn\'t get a news story about him if he backed over a two year olds\' puppy for the past year. Finally he\'s getting some press.
It all hinges on the Biden debate. All that can be said about Palin\'s speech is that it was prepared (As everyone else\'s was). A debate though you have to prepare for and it will be the most important event in her life. Hopefully it will all go well. If she destroys biden, game over.
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Can you stfu with this retarded bullshit? Impossible to take anything you say seriously when you post garbage like this. You don\'t see Giga calling Obama a nigger in any post do you?
You\'re voting for Obama, we know and we don\'t care.
*shakes head*...seriously jumpy....are you that retarded?...how can you put nigger and grandpa in the same sentence?....it\'s not even the same....we\'ve been comparing Obama & McCain for the past six pages now....can you comprehend that?....and you\'re exposing some ignorance with that statement...i thought you were smarter than that...I know you guys love McCain and are jerkin\' off to his vp...i could care less too...
Hahahaha wow you are dense. I was mocking you. If you want to make an ass of yourself any more just message me
Now i\'m making an ass out of myself?.....:rolleyes:...you\'re irrelevant....i\'ll let jumpy massage you with some stiff backshots!!..:gfight:....then maybe you two can get out of yer mom\'s basement and get a life instead of bein\' on the internet, where you think you actually matter....:p..come back when you get off yer period...in tha meantime have fun havin\' jumpy stick tampons up your ass...
this is fun
Yeah this is fun..i haven\'t gotten into a little spat with the forum asshole in a minute, what is not fun is feeling myself struggle to come down to his dumbass level...
Oh and boz the word yer lookin\' for is "massage"....not message..stupidass....i gotta be careful when talkin\' you,..i don\'t want your stupidity rubbin\' off on me...
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*shakes head*...seriously jumpy....are you that retarded?...how can you put nigger and grandpa in the same sentence?....it\'s not even the same....we\'ve been comparing Obama & McCain for the past six pages now....can you comprehend that?....and you\'re exposing some ignorance with that statement...i thought you were smarter than that...I know you guys love McCain and are jerkin\' off to his vp...i could care less too...
The point stands. I see Giga criticizing Obama on a wide variety issues of things I could care less about but I don\'t see him throwing out general childish insults towards him.
This thread isn\'t comparing Obama and McCain. It left that area a long time ago.
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The point stands. I see Giga criticizing Obama on a wide variety issues of things I could care less about but I don\'t see him throwing out general childish insults towards him.
This thread isn\'t comparing Obama and McCain. It left that area a long time ago.
Do you have split personalities or somethin\'?...me callin\' McCain grandpa is just a small knock against him and me just mildly bustin\' on him a bit,..far from me calling him whitey or cracker....but now all of a sudden the king of sarcasm is offended by that remark?....and giga has made some remarks towards Obama, but you don\'t see me pissin\' a bitch about it....really petty stuff you\'re tryin\' to argue here and you\'re selectively seeing what you want to see...
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Actually, this thread was about Sarah Palin and her impact on the election, but just like everything else in this forum, it takes a wrong turn and never comes back. While amusing to read, it lacks total substance.
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Do you have split personalities or somethin\'?...me callin\' McCain grandpa is just a small knock against him and me just mildly bustin\' on him a bit,..far from me calling him whitey or cracker....but now all of a sudden the king of sarcasm is offended by that remark?....and giga has made some remarks towards Obama, but you don\'t see me pissin\' a bitch about it....really petty stuff you\'re tryin\' to argue here and you\'re selectively seeing what you want to see...
No, its all connected to one point, you being silly. All of your arguing and generally attitudes are petty so why should I elevate my response to a different level?
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No, its all connected to one point, you being silly. All of your arguing and generally attitudes are petty so why should I elevate my response to a different level?
I\'m being silly and arguing?..we\'re just debating about McCain Obama & Palin...you\'re funny...but hey if you wanna ride on boz\'s dick and attack me feel free....i know for a fact that i haven\'t been acting silly regarding this thread....
if you guys can\'t debate or defend the candidate you like, and your only option is to attack me because i can, then i suggest both you & boz s**t the f**k up...i\'m still laughing at the fact that you\'re upset that i called McCain grandpa...out of all the sly remarks that even you make in serious threads..that comment offended you?...get a life...
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i know for a fact that i haven\'t been acting silly regarding this thread....
lol
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I\'m being silly and arguing?..we\'re just debating about McCain Obama & Palin...you\'re funny...but hey if you wanna ride on boz\'s dick and attack me feel free....i know for a fact that i haven\'t been acting silly regarding this thread....
if you guys can\'t debate or defend the candidate you like, and your only option is to attack me because i can, then i suggest both you & boz s**t the f**k up...i\'m still laughing at the fact that you\'re upset that i called McCain grandpa...out of all the sly remarks that even you make in serious threads..that comment offended you?...get a life...
I don\'t even know what you and Boz are going on about, but if you\'re this off base then I can only assume he\'s right and you are wrong again.
Sly remarks? MORE LIKE SILLY HAHA see what did there?
The grandpa remark is only one out of many off handed jabs at McCain. I merely pointed out its impossible to take what you say serious when you yourself are incapable of having a serious discussion without resorting to immature tactics.
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this thread makes my penis soft
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The grandpa remark is only one out of many off handed jabs at McCain. I merely pointed out its impossible to take what you say serious when you yourself are incapable of having a serious discussion without resorting to immature tactics.
Not you probably already don\'t know this, but um, this IS Psx2C we\'re talking about here...It takes a miracle and a sacrifice of about 100 goats for a thread, especially about politics, not to have immature name-calling out the ass.
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I don\'t even know what you and Boz are going on about, but if you\'re this off base then I can only assume he\'s right and you are wrong again.
Sly remarks? MORE LIKE SILLY HAHA see what did there?
The grandpa remark is only one out of many off handed jabs at McCain. I merely pointed out its impossible to take what you say serious when you yourself are incapable of having a serious discussion without resorting to immature tactics.
Well when i said sly..i meant off the cuff sarcastic humor...everybody\'s been goin\' back and forth about the candidate that they like...the only joke i stated towards McCain was grandpa,....and now all of a sudden people are ultra sensitive?...:confused:..you guys are reachin\' hard....giga have said a few things as well towards Obama & again you don\'t see me getting upset or calling him immature about it...
Go back and look at giga\'s posts,..it\'s hard to take you guys seriously when you selectively see only what you want to see....you yourself have posted a few sarcastic pictures yourself yet i\'m being silly?...look in the mirror..
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Yeah but I don\'t actually engage in every political discussion.
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You\'re all fucking idiots for even caring about this shit. Do either one of you actually believe your respective candidate gives a flying fuck about you or this country? They don\'t. They are just men who want the most "powerful position in the world". It\'s plain and simple.
Fuck.
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You\'re all fucking idiots for even caring about this shit. Do either one of you actually believe your respective candidate gives a flying fuck about you or this country? They don\'t. They are just men who want the most "powerful position in the world". It\'s plain and simple.
Fuck.
We have a winner.
While I wouldn\'t go so far as to say they "don\'t care" cause I\'m sure they do, this is just a job interview, and they are trying to look as good as possible to the person doing the interview (the media).
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We have a winner.
While I wouldn\'t go so far as to say they "don\'t care" cause I\'m sure they do, this is just a job interview, and they are trying to look as good as possible to the person doing the interview (the media).
I can honestly say that I truly believe they don\'t care. They are already rich. They\'re set for life. This is just a job interview and something to stroke the ego. Kind of like when your a kid, you want to be President , not because you care, but because it\'d be "cool".
The only difference is, this election is more a media circus than ever. We had a female and African American trying to be the Democratic nominee. Now we have an African American winning that, so the Republican party turns around and gets a woman for the VP nominee and if that isn\'t enough, they get a woman who has scandals and family issues. It\'s all one big media circus that has now turned into a fucking soap opera. Does Obama believe what his previous pastor preached? Is Palin\'s daughter a slut? Does McCain have memory issues? The list just goes on and on. Give me a fuckin\' break. I\'m glad we only do this shit once every four years, because not only does it bring the worse out in people (see: the constant bickering among Clips / Giga and others), but it is also just flat out absurd.
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I can honestly say that I truly believe they don\'t care. They are already rich. They\'re set for life. This is just a job interview and something to stroke the ego. Kind of like when your a kid, you want to be President , not because you care, but because it\'d be "cool".
The only difference is, this election is more a media circus than ever. We had a female and African American trying to be the Democratic nominee. Now we have an African American winning that, so the Republican party turns around and gets a woman for the VP nominee and if that isn\'t enough, they get a woman who has scandals and family issues. It\'s all one big media circus that has now turned into a fucking soap opera. Does Obama believe what his previous pastor preached? Is Palin\'s daughter a slut? Does McCain have memory issues? The list just goes on and on. Give me a fuckin\' break. I\'m glad we only do this shit once every four years, because not only does it bring the worse out in people (see: the constant bickering among Clips / Giga and others), but it is also just flat out absurd.
The bickering has become this way over the past 8 years thanks to the lunatic left. I voted for Clinton because I thought he was the best candidate. Now I won\'t vote for anyone with a "D" after their name. Why? Move.org and George Soros and the hate that spews from that corner. Bush Derangement Syndrome has also caused this and again, look the left for the source of this nonsense.
Now, Biden says he wants to put the Bush Administration on trial if they get elected? IMO that is the fastest way to get impeached in 2010 when you have congressional elections. To me it seems the left wants to further divide this country instead of heal it. I have been saying for a long time we need the next president to be more in the center to heal the rift and McCain is the logical choice. Obama is the most liberal senator in congress.
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Yeah but I don\'t actually engage in every political discussion.
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So just because you don\'t engage in every political discussion...that gives you a pass at posting sarcastic pics & acting "silly" whenever you see fit?....and because i called McCain grandpa and criticized his speech a bit..i\'m being silly?....sorry jumpy....but you can\'t have it both ways...i seriously try to see all sides when somebody say that i\'ve been acting like a jerk...all i\'ve done in this thread is state why McCain picked Palin and why i think Obama is the better candidate...nothing more.
The thread took a bit of a dive when you and Boz attacked me for what i feel to be no reason at all...
You\'re all fucking idiots for even caring about this shit. Do either one of you actually believe your respective candidate gives a flying fuck about you or this country? They don\'t. They are just men who want the most "powerful position in the world". It\'s plain and simple.
Fuck
Tru..enough...it\'s not that serious...people take things too seriously in here...this is strickly entertainment for me and it gives me a chance to see where everybody\'s head is at..i respect cats that support McCain.....but i do not like when assholes(Boz & to a lesser extent jumpy) attack me for stupidass reasons...and LIC,..alot of times if i\'ve came down on member in here really bad or if i was out of line, you\'d be one of the first dudes to check me on it.....but here, i seriously feel i\'ve done nothing out of the ordinary...these poltical threads tend to get heated just as bad as the racial one\'s...
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This is so true up until a couple days ago. Although the RNC was carried on 3 less stations than the DNC and her speach still had as many viewers as Obamas. John Mccain couldn\'t get a news story about him if he backed over a two year olds\' puppy for the past year. Finally he\'s getting some press.
I don\'t think McCain not being mentioned much last year is that important. Hillary and Obama were going at it down the wire and either one winning would have significance. It was interesting, drawn out and worth harping on.
My problem with the media is that they are still content to just cover whatever the politicians and their campaigns say or do in front of cameras. It\'s much harder to find articles that give you info on who would make a better elected official. They\'d rather report on how the masses feel than inform them to make wise decisions. For a reply I intended for Giga, I went to Fox News to find info on Obama\'s record and discovered that they don\'t bother making stories about the backgrounds or accomplishments of anybody. What a waste of journalism.
Also, fishing shows. My other problem with the media is fishing shows. ;]
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So just because you don\'t engage in every political discussion...that gives you a pass at posting sarcastic pics & acting "silly" whenever you see fit?....and because i called McCain grandpa and criticized his speech a bit..i\'m being silly?..
Yes and yes. As an unbiased and neutral observer I can objectively analyze the poop from the stinker poop. You have some stinky poop. You shouldn\'t post in these threads because your opinion means nothing when you can\'t stop jumping up and down acting retarded while hoping Obama cums in your mouth. Its "im clips im black im voting for obama everyone else sucks because *poop*", just as bad as "im giga i define white trash all hail any republican nomination".
I\'m the god damn Jumpman, bitch. I post and people record it in the "Bible of Awesome". Even Jesus told you to gtfo.
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Jesus Christ!
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Why is JM in here?
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When did you crawl out of the retard grave?
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When did you crawl out of the retard grave?
who died?
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When did you crawl out of the retard grave?
I know you have better than this.
Too bad I left for a while and cant ban or delete your bullshit in here anymore.
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Everyone knows I don\'t use A material on trash.
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You\'ve never used \'A\' material.
Also...
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You\'ve never used \'A\' material.
I saw you and Souly online after I posted and wondered which one would chime in with nothing first.
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In other news i seen a poll that stated 57% of men think that palin is qualified to be prez...so in the span of two weeks, people feel she\'s qualified?, when supposedly undecided white voters on the fence couldn\'t decide over Obama and even tho Obama has been campaigning for over 19 months?....it looks like the sheer ignorance of racism is going to decide this election.
I just can\'t see the american public voting for the McCain ticket,...when clearly you can see why he chose Palin,..(for hillary women voters)...not a true qualified vp..(that\'s a judgement issue)...the economy is in shambles....the housing mess...*look at fannie mae and freddie mac*..the war..and yet people are willing to vote for the party that has ruined the economy, but they would rather deal with that than vote for a black person...the argument that people just don\'t know Obama is irrelevant since these idiot voters seem to be making up their minds about somebody they barely know simply because she\'s a women & white.
We\'ll see what happens after she debates biden and how the debates go between Obama & McCain...i remember when i lived in jersey and jim florio was govenor..and he introduced jersey to one of thee highest tax hikes in the states history....shortly afterwards i supported whitman, a republican and she became the govenor of jersey & she did some good things for the state,...she cleaned up the garbage that florio left behind...
My point is that if one party is screwing up the country so bad, yet you still are willing to vote for that party knowing what the last eight years has been like just because your ignorant intellect tells you not to vote for a black person,then that really is disturbing....yes i know there will always be people that vote republican & democrat..no matter what,..but this is mainly going out to those undecided white voters...who most likely wasn\'t voting for Obama anyway, but are just making a really lame excuse as to not vote for Obama.
I\'m a dem, but i have no problem votin\' for a republican if the democratic party is f**kin\' up big time....and i don\'t base my decision on race or color, but that\'s apparently not true of these undecided white voters that i think are critical in the selecting of the next president....
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You really will blame anything on racism. Some random poll made this all fact, right.
You\'re comparing Palin being at 57% from this random poll to what? You feeling that people are on the fence with Obama still? Then you\'re ready to blame it all on racism.....I don\'t know why these surprises me. Oh and don\'t mind the fact that every black person is voting for Obama just because he\'s black.
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In other news i seen a poll that stated 57% of men think that palin is qualified to be prez...so in the span of two weeks, people feel she\'s qualified?, when supposedly undecided white voters on the fence couldn\'t decide over Obama and even tho Obama has been campaigning for over 19 months?....it looks like the sheer ignorance of racism is going to decide this election.
I just can\'t see the american public voting for the McCain ticket,...when clearly you can see why he chose Palin,..(for hillary women voters)...not a true qualified vp..(that\'s a judgement issue)...the economy is in shambles....the housing mess...*look at fannie mae and freddie mac*..the war..and yet people are willing to vote for the party that has ruined the economy, but they would rather deal with that than vote for a black person...the argument that people just don\'t know Obama is irrelevant since these idiot voters seem to be making up their minds about somebody they barely know simply because she\'s a women & white.
We\'ll see what happens after she debates biden and how the debates go between Obama & McCain...i remember when i lived in jersey and jim florio was govenor..and he introduced jersey to one of thee highest tax hikes in the states history....shortly afterwards i supported whitman, a republican and she became the govenor of jersey & she did some good things for the state,...she cleaned up the garbage that florio left behind...
My point is that if one party is screwing up the country so bad, yet you still are willing to vote for that party knowing what the last eight years has been like just because your ignorant intellect tells you not to vote for a black person,then that really is disturbing....yes i know there will always be people that vote republican & democrat..no matter what,..but this is mainly going out to those undecided white voters...who most likely wasn\'t voting for Obama anyway, but are just making a really lame excuse as to not vote for Obama.
I\'m a dem, but i have no problem votin\' for a republican if the democratic party is f**kin\' up big time....and i don\'t base my decision on race or color, but that\'s apparently not true of these undecided white voters that i think are critical in the selecting of the next president....
Everything comes down to racism with you, I can\'t stand that. My dislike for obama has nothing to do with race and everything to do with my hatred for socialism. Since when did a bigger government become a good thing?
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You really will blame anything on racism. Some random poll made this all fact, right.
You\'re comparing Palin being at 57% from this random poll to what? You feeling that people are on the fence with Obama still? Then you\'re ready to blame it all on racism.....I don\'t know why these surprises me. Oh and don\'t mind the fact that every black person is voting for Obama just because he\'s black.
Everything comes down to racism with you, I can\'t stand that. My dislike for obama has nothing to do with race and everything to do with my hatred for socialism. Since when did a bigger government become a good thing?
Boz, Kennedy...i see your point....but i just feel that at least within that certain group of particular white voters, that this a group that Obama will never reach,..no matter how hard he tries,... that was really just a response to a comment i heard about Obama being tied with McCain and why he can\'t connect with those blue collar older white workers in ohio & other mid-western states.....and i know you guys think i\'m racist with these comments, but those are just the facts.
As far as blacks votin\' for him...well it\'s kinda historical dontcha think?...and most blacks vote democratic anyway.....Bill Clinton recieved 80% i think it was of the black vote when he was elected....see how that works?...so saying that blacks are votin\' for him soley because he\'s black is a bit faulty...it might be part of the reason, but not the sole reason...if that was the case Al Sharpton would\'ve recieved 80% of the black vote in the last election and he most certaintly did not.
And gentlemen, don\'t take these things personal,...not saying you are, but if you\'re not part of that particular group that i\'m referring to, you have nothing to worry about...i\'m not calling YOU racists, i\'m just talking about folks that i\'ve seen interviews sayin.."i can\'t vote for him his name is funny or he\'s a muslim"....i\'ve seen a few interviews with cnn just asking people in tennesse about Obama and asking would they vote for him & even tho the anchor have told these people that it\'s been proven that he\'s a christian, these people STILL stated they believe he\'s a muslim.....basically i just wanted to point out that those are the types that Obama can never reach since they\'re minds are already made up, no matter what you tell them..
I can respect you & Boz for not liking Obama for his policies, but it\'s this other group of voters that while i\'m highly critical of them,..i think Obama needs at least some of them to win.
But Boz i do agree with you on one thing....i should judge those polls with a grain of salt...those things change on a daily basis and really doesn\'t represent the entire country...but i pulled that poll just to make a point.
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I just can\'t see the american public voting for the McCain ticket,...when clearly you can see why he chose Palin,..(for hillary women voters)...not a true qualified vp..(that\'s a judgement issue)...the economy is in shambles....the housing mess...*look at fannie mae and freddie mac*..the war..and yet people are willing to vote for the party that has ruined the economy, but they would rather deal with that than vote for a black person...the argument that people just don\'t know Obama is irrelevant since these idiot voters seem to be making up their minds about somebody they barely know simply because she\'s a women & white.
Well a lot of people don\'t vote by party lines. I don\'t. My dad\'s a big time Republican and he still votes Democrat a lot of times. If you vote because of a party then you really are ignorant. I\'m voting for McCain because he\'s in the middle and America needs a good moderate presidential nominee, not one that is on the far right or far left. McCain is not a party person. He votes for what he feels is right. Like Bush said at the White House Correspondents Dinner a couple years ago, "we need to be united, Democrats, Republicans and John McCain". If you lump all Republicans in with Bush then you are really ignorant. The Republican party has been distancing themselves from Bush. I don\'t care that they said he was dealing with the hurricane which is why they gave him a short speech by satellite. I don\'t think they wanted him to speak too long regardless if he was there or not. I really don\'t think the Republicans wanted Bush at the RNC.
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You\'ve never used \'A\' material.
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I am SO voting for this chick...
Oh, and......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QevraCQUc
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I am SO voting for this chick...
Oh, and......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QevraCQUc
haha...funny!!...:laughing:
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I love the thong on that girl.
My god..so...tasty.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/14/103042/902/965/597033
Alaska\'s own women don\'t want Palin near the White House.
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Well what else is there to do in Alaska? You\'ve seen a moose, you\'ve climbed a mountain.. time to picket.
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So about 500 women showed up.
:laughing: What are you? clips\' clone?
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I like how you guys dismiss every single thing.
Not Clips clone. I am just posting various articles. Then being amused on how it gets dismissed, with absurd reasons.
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People who are against something always picket. The squeeky wheel gets the grease. We all know Palin has a lot of flaws... But Obama\'s "Plan" makes absolutely no sense to me and it is scarier than McCain dying in my opinion.
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People who are against something always picket. The squeeky wheel gets the grease. We all know Palin has a lot of flaws... But Obama\'s "Plan" makes absolutely no sense to me and it is scarier than McCain dying in my opinion.
Makes sense to me...these huge corporations are currently gettin\' these huge tax breaks and they are STILL being greedy....and as a result the economy is going down faster than g\'mans sister..;)....so again i see nothing wrong with taxing those corporations and giving more money back to the middle class....the thing is tho, Obama is not taxing corporations that create & keep american jobs here,..he is taxing those that send american jobs overseas..(makes sense to me)..McCains plan gives huge tax breaks to corporations regardless whether they send those jobs overseas or not.
Tax those huge corporations and maybe they\'ll start conducting business in an honest fashion....and gman,...LIC is his own man, he\'s just stating the facts, and he\'s doing a damn good job of it...:thumb:...and he\'s not blind like you delusional McCain fanatics....:p
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People who are against something always picket. The squeeky wheel gets the grease. We all know Palin has a lot of flaws... But Obama\'s "Plan" makes absolutely no sense to me and it is scarier than McCain dying in my opinion.
You nailed it on the head with two words .
"to me".
Every one else is around here stating things as if they can see the future and their respective candidate is the second coming of Christ. When in reality, it comes down to what makes sense to you, but that I doesn\'t mean it\'ll happen or it\'s fact.
McCain\'s plan doesn\'t make sense to me. I can\'t support any one who doesn\'t support a woman\'s right to choose. I can\'t support someone who doesn\'t support Stem Cell research. And quite frankly, when I see McCain, I just think of another four years of Bush. That\'s what makes sense to me .
However, I\'m not voting for Obama either. I\'m just playing both sides of the fences. I think most of what Obama says is just hype, but you can\'t deny the man gives a great speech and in the end, I think that may be all America really wants.
With that said, this thread isn\'t about Obama or McCain, it\'s about Palin and why she isn\'t qualified to even be in consideration for the VP seat.
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The abortion issue is really the only thing I don\'t agree with on the republican side, for the most part. But to be honest, I\'d stop baby sucking in a heart beat if they would just start drilling for some fucking oil.
Tax breaks to big businesses happen all the time everywhere. It\'s a way for cities to entice corporations to come to their city and create jobs. The city gets it\'s money back by housing going up, education going up, restaurants going up, etc.....
Is Palin qualified? No.. Of course not. But I\'m not voting for Palin, I\'m voting for McCain, which would make a far superior commander and chief than what his opponent would be.
By the time McCain dies (If he does), Sarah will have enough experience and the people will have already been established to allow her to take over and keep the country ticking.
Now if McCain croaks right after the oath, oh boy....
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Now if McCain croaks right after the oath, oh boy....
How\'s that any different if Obama is elected. Both him and Palin are rookies.
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I don\'t really care for McCain (although Palin is starting to intrigue me) but in my head I keep thinking...
Obama = Socialism
Socialism = Bad
Therefore,
Obama = Bad
I dare anyone to defend a socialist.
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throwing this blog article in...
http://www.extremeink.com/awtk/2007/11/barack-obama-explains-socialism.html
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I don\'t really care for McCain (although Palin is starting to intrigue me) but in my head I keep thinking...
Obama = Socialism
Socialism = Bad
Therefore,
Obama = Bad
I dare anyone to defend a socialist.
I\'ll defend a socialist any day of the week. Then again, I think we could use a little Communism in this country!
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I\'ll defend a socialist any day of the week. Then again, I think we could use a little Communism in this country!
No way. I\'m not paying for some lazy ass unemployed fuck so he can have a house as big as mine.
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The trick is to be that lazy ass fuck.
/Duh.
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How\'s that any different if Obama is elected. Both him and Palin are rookies.
Good Point.
We received a phone call from the Obama camp and the chick on the phone couldn\'t pronounce Lehman Brothers and had absolutely no clue what she was talking about. That\'s friggen brilliant. If you are going to call a registered republican, friggen get your shit together before you call him. :fro:
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Republicans = no sense of humor
McCain camp calls Fey\'s Palin portrayal ‘sexist’
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26743182/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26743182/)
If the sketch portrayed two women, one as being smart and the other being dumb, how is that sexist?
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The trick is to be that lazy ass fuck.
/Duh.
That\'ll fix our economy!
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Republicans = no sense of humor
McCain camp calls Fey\'s Palin portrayal ‘sexist’
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26743182/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26743182/)
If the sketch portrayed two women, one as being smart and the other being dumb, how is that sexist?
i dunno it took me a minute before i realized it wasnt palin
even if i had just heard it instead of watching i would have thought it was palin
that folksy attitude annoys me
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http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/16/palin-s-favorability-ratings-begin-to-falter.aspx
Palin has the lowest rating of the four .
Guess Newsweek is biased also.
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Palin run HP?? No way.. She could probably run Dell, but not HP... oof.
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http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/16/palin-s-favorability-ratings-begin-to-falter.aspx
Palin has the lowest rating of the four .
Guess Newsweek is biased also.
Actually Newsweek is biased, but that isn\'t the point. The point is the poll itself. Diago/Hotliine????? Who the fuck are they? Never heard of them. The libtards are in such a panic over Palin that they are creating polls themselves. :rofl:
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Good Point.
We received a phone call from the Obama camp and the chick on the phone couldn\'t pronounce Lehman Brothers and had absolutely no clue what she was talking about. That\'s friggen brilliant. If you are going to call a registered republican, friggen get your shit together before you call him. :fro:
Oh I wish someone from 0bama\'s camp would call me... after a stressful day at work I would like nothing better than to take it out on a dimwit.
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So - the polls are biased.
Could you just please give me a list of places that aren\'t biased?
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I know. My wife answered the phone. She explained to me just how ignorant the gal on the other end was. She was very lucky I didn\'t get the phone call. That poor girl would be on for an hour.
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So - the polls are biased.
Could you just please give me a list of places that aren\'t biased?
Most of the media is in the tank for 0bama. The media in general has lost most of its credibility - see MSNBC (funny how Core links it - imagine that). As for the poll, I have never heard of it. Not one of the big ones. Rasmussen, Gallup, etc. are the bigger ones and a bit more accurate. Though polls in general are pretty worthless now a days.
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Before Palin was on the ticket, hell, even Hillary Clinton complained about it:
Obama gets all the press.
Just the facts.
As to why....well....he\'s the right complexion. ;)
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thankfully the media doesn\'t reflect the actual state of the US election as indicated by the gallup polls...
which coincidentally when Obama is/was leading in the gallup poll everyone seemed to portray it as an accurate reflection and posted it all over the media, now that McCain is leading in the polls (as of yesterday i believe), it\'s considered irrellevant and meaningless and no media outlet is mentioning it.
Again, not a huge McCain fan here, but i cant stand the media darling that is Obama.
BTW: to see the gallup poll, just go to http://www.gallup.com i believe
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thankfully the media doesn\'t reflect the actual state of the US election as indicated by the gallup polls...
which coincidentally when Obama is/was leading in the gallup poll everyone seemed to portray it as an accurate reflection and posted it all over the media, now that McCain is leading in the polls (as of yesterday i believe), it\'s considered irrellevant and meaningless and no media outlet is mentioning it.
Again, not a huge McCain fan here, but i cant stand the media darling that is Obama.
BTW: to see the gallup poll, just go to http://www.gallup.com i believe
Or you could go to http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
Gives an average of all of them.
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Why is Palin\'s peoples tryin\' to block an investigation, thaty both democrats & republicans agreed to?....if she has nothing to hide or hasn\'t done anything wrong, then she should have nothing to worry about,..yet they are trying to delay the investigation until after the election...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGP1SGQTnk4
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and everyone on the democratic side is squeaky clean right?
I\'m sure if the republicans launched an investigation they could find something, I don\'t think they\'d stoop that low though.
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Why is Palin\'s peoples tryin\' to block an investigation, thaty both democrats & republicans agreed to?....if she has nothing to hide or hasn\'t done anything wrong, then she should have nothing to worry about,..yet they are trying to delay the investigation until after the election...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGP1SGQTnk4
It is a witch hunt. There is no need for an investigation. The email records show that the Director of Public Safety was approving funds he had no authorization to do. He was basically going around the governor and that is why he was asked to resign.
The Dims wish this were something, unfortunately for them, it isn\'t.
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1119495&srvc=2008campaign&position=7
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The Dims wish this were something, unfortunately for them, it isn\'t.
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1119495&srvc=2008campaign&position=7 (http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1119495&srvc=2008campaign&position=7)
I\'m going to start keeping a list of news sources that are NOT "liberal biased" (according to you) and are OK to use to back up arguments in this forum. The Boston Herald goes on the list.
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I\'m going to start keeping a list of news sources that are NOT "liberal biased" (according to you) and are OK to use to back up arguments in this forum. The Boston Herald goes on the list.
Here\'s one (http://www.psx2central.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44)
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I\'m going to start keeping a list of news sources that are NOT "liberal biased" (according to you) and are OK to use to back up arguments in this forum. The Boston Herald goes on the list.
I would say that 80% of the media has a liberal bias, at least.
I love how digg and reddit fill up with articles from the huffington post and people expect readers to take them seriously, and then in turn criticize fox news for having a conservative bias.
Bunch of cherry pickers if you ask me.
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Here\'s one (http://www.psx2central.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44)
Actually I would say this forum is pretty fair. Got people on both sides, people in the middle (or different from trad lib/con views like me), and people who just don\'t care.
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and everyone on the democratic side is squeaky clean right?
I\'m sure if the republicans launched an investigation they could find something, I don\'t think they\'d stoop that low though.
Not sayin\' they are, but if this chic has nothing to hide she should cooperate like she initially planned to,..the democrats cannot create something that isn\'t there...and if you recall the republicans were tryin\' to impeach clinton, back in tha day for gettin his knob waxed. that was low...why?...cause clinton gettin\' his freak on has nothing to do with him running the country.
Palin possibly firing this dude because he indirectly didn\'t fire that trooper because of personal issues she has with him? If that tends to be true, it\'ll result in an abuse of power, and severly questions her judgement, and her lack of seperating political issues from personal issues.
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Not sayin\' they are, but if this chic has nothing to hide she should cooperate like she initially planned to,..the democrats cannot create something that isn\'t there...and if you recall the republicans were tryin\' to impeach clinton, back in tha day for gettin his knob waxed. that was low...why?...cause clinton gettin\' his freak on has nothing to do with him running the country.
Palin possibly firing this dude because he indirectly didn\'t fire that trooper because of personal issues she has with him? If that tends to be true, it\'ll result in an abuse of power, and severly questions her judgement, and her lack of seperating political issues from personal issues.
Once again - Palin fired the guy for trying to go around her to get funding. That is not his job. It is insubordination. The Dems are grasping at straws - there is nothing to be found here, though they desperately want there to be.
As far as impeaching Clinton - it wasn\'t for adultery. It was for perjury before a grand jury, where he lied to them about not having an affair with her. That is a felony. You should really look at the Constitution for once clips. I don\'t agree that the adultery was grounds for impeachment, but lying to a grand jury is. If Clinton would have just owned up to it, in my opinion - it would have ended there.
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Once again - Palin fired the guy for trying to go around her to get funding. That is not his job. It is insubordination. The Dems are grasping at straws - there is nothing to be found here, though they desperately want there to be.
Ok,..well why is she blocking the investigation?...let it go thru as planned by BOTH republicans & democrats,...if she\'s done nothing wrong, then that\'ll be the end of that...
As far as impeaching Clinton - it wasn\'t for adultery. It was for perjury before a grand jury, where he lied to them about not having an affair with her. That is a felony. You should really look at the Constitution for once clips. I don\'t agree that the adultery was grounds for impeachment, but lying to a grand jury is. If Clinton would have just owned up to it, in my opinion - it would have ended there.
Ok...i misunderstood that small detail...and yes i do remember when clinton was sayin\' that in a sense that gettin\' a blow job does not qualify as sex...:p...i thought he was digging himself deeper & deeper with those comments....but it was still silly..so he lied about havin\' sex with some chickenhead,....that\'s nowhere near as bad as lying about intelligence and pushing your agenda to go to war...*bush*...there are some that want to impeach bush for getting us involved in an unjust war(iraq)....and while i do think bush used his authority recklessly,..i think impeaching him is just waay over the top....but thanks for the clarification.
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Not sayin\' they are, but if this chic has nothing to hide she should cooperate like she initially planned to,..the democrats cannot create something that isn\'t there...and if you recall the republicans were tryin\' to impeach clinton, back in tha day for gettin his knob waxed. that was low...why?...cause clinton gettin\' his freak on has nothing to do with him running the country.
Palin possibly firing this dude because he indirectly didn\'t fire that trooper because of personal issues she has with him? If that tends to be true, it\'ll result in an abuse of power, and severly questions her judgement, and her lack of seperating political issues from personal issues.
Thank god nobody fabricates stories in politics! Everything reported is the truth!
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clips...Clinton wasn\'t impeached for the blowjob.
He was impeached for lying under oath. You could have given him knob all day and if he lies about it under oath, he\'ll get in trouble for it. Not you shocking on his knob but for lying.
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Yeah, lying under oath... about getting a blow job.
I still don\'t give a fuck.
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Lying under oath is lying under oath.
If Clinton is allowed to do it, then is it ok for everyone to do it?
And who\'s to say it\'s just a blow job? I\'m sure it wasn\'t just a blow job to Hillary. Well, that is if Hillary wasn\'t a dyke.
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lol. since nobody mentioned the clinton\'s first name. It could mean Hillary there eh? funny.
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Thank god nobody fabricates stories in politics! Everything reported is the truth!
It happens, but again if she did nothing wrong she should have nothing to worry about....now she wants to this investigation moved to some personnel dept that was hand picked by Palin herself.....i\'m sure the people that is within her staff will honestly report any wrong doings by her...:rolleyes:....
Again this wasn\'t a democrat thing,..it was bipartisan....both republicans & democrats agreed to this investigation.....why transfer the investigation to a personnel dept with folks she hand picked?....that really shows she\'s tryin\' to hide something.
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why wasn\'t this investigation launched months ago?
oh right, she wasn\'t running for VP months ago
funny how things work
as a side note, clips, if you ever find yourself in a witch hunt, just roll over and cooperate, that way after you\'ve been burned at the stake and evidence comes out later that proves your innocence, we can all be like "whoops" and move on after permanently damaging your reputation
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But she was going to cooperate in the first place....i don\'t see the logic....it\'s bipartisan,....the democrats cannot make up stuff that isn\'t there...they have to have conclusive, without a shadow of a doubt evidence that she abused her power, if they cannot prove that she\'s off the hook...simple....she\'s making it look like she\'s hiding something by delaying the investigation and as i\'ve stated before she wants this investigation moved to some personnel dept with people of whom she hand picked...you think they are going to judge her fairly?...get real.
If she\'s done nothing wrong she has nothing to worry about, again the dems cannot create something that isn\'t there,...she\'s not cooperating & and that is not a good look for somebody that is trying to be the next vp...
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But she was going to cooperate in the first place....i don\'t see the logic....it\'s bipartisan,....the democrats cannot make up stuff that isn\'t there...they have to have conclusive, without a shadow of a doubt evidence that she abused her power, if they cannot prove that she\'s off the hook...simple....she\'s making it look like she\'s hiding something by delaying the investigation and as i\'ve stated before she wants this investigation moved to some personnel dept with people of whom she hand picked...you think they are going to judge her fairly?...get real.
If she\'s done nothing wrong she has nothing to worry about, again the dems cannot create something that isn\'t there,...she\'s not cooperating & and that is not a good look for somebody that is trying to be the next vp...
Because all the Dims want to do is create a distraction by making this investigation before the election. There is and was nothing there. Why don\'t we look at Rezko\'s ties to Obama? He is not cooperating with that is he? That is not a good look for someone who wants to be the next President.
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the democrats cannot make up stuff that isn\'t there...
Awesome, Democrats don\'t lie or make stuff up. I wish I were as naive as you. Here\'s a fact, EVERYBODY LIES.
they have to have conclusive, without a shadow of a doubt evidence that she abused her power, if they cannot prove that she\'s off the hook...simple....
And nobody gets hurt in the process. The wrongfully accused never suffer any backlash.
she\'s making it look like she\'s hiding something by delaying the investigation and as i\'ve stated before she wants this investigation moved to some personnel dept with people of whom she hand picked...you think they are going to judge her fairly?...get real.
Constitutional Rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution)
meh, but who cares about the constitution, you don\'t.
If she\'s done nothing wrong she has nothing to worry about, again the dems cannot create something that isn\'t there,...she\'s not cooperating & and that is not a good look for somebody that is trying to be the next vp...
You repeated yourself. And yes, you can make up stuff.
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Because all the Dims want to do is create a distraction by making this investigation before the election. There is and was nothing there. Why don\'t we look at Rezko\'s ties to Obama? He is not cooperating with that is he? That is not a good look for someone who wants to be the next President.
Well maybe if McCain would\'nt have picked a candidate for political reasons(hillary\'s women voters) instead of picking a true vp he wouldn\'t be going thru this drama with her....i\'ve heard very little of this rezko character,...i think i might\'ve heard that he is in some type of trouble, but that has nothing to do with obama....whatever dealings they had were legit,...and Obama is not under investigation....see how you conservatives like to switch the situation around?....Palin is under investigation....Obama is not.
Stay on the issue at hand.
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Well maybe if McCain would\'nt have picked a candidate for political reasons(hillary\'s women voters) instead of picking a true vp he wouldn\'t be going thru this drama with her....i\'ve heard very little of this rezko character,...i think i might\'ve heard that he is in some type of trouble, but that has nothing to do with obama....whatever dealings they had were legit,...and Obama is not under investigation....see how you conservatives like to switch the situation around?....Palin is under investigation....Obama is not.
Stay on the issue at hand.
Ah so now we get to the real reason you keep whining about this. You are so mad that he picked a woman. The only drama being created is by the leftist nuts you listen to.
Just google Rezko and Obama - amazing what you can learn.
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Awesome, Democrats don\'t lie or make stuff up. I wish I were as naive as you. Here\'s a fact, EVERYBODY LIES.
You are going to incedible heights to defend this chic...amazing.....i know they all lie,.they\'re politians....yeah i wish i could not cooperate if i got subpenoed(spel).....my ass will be locked up.....if i did nothing wrong, i would happily face the charges and blow it back up in the dems face afterwards, but she is not choosing to do that,...so if she\'s avoiding something as trivial as this, how does she plan to handle real issues when she\'s vp?....answer..she won\'t.
And nobody gets hurt in the process. The wrongfully accused never suffer any backlash.
Oh well the minute you become a public figure your whole life is an open book, she should\'ve known this the moment she entered politics.....just like that lipstick on a pig comment....conservatives were offened by that remark even tho it\'s been used by McCain dozens of times,...and it\'s ok for palin to call herself a bulldog with lipstick, but she gets offended is somebody states lipstick on a pig?...:p...talk about causing a distraction, the republicans wanted to cause a distraction of gigantic proportions.
You repeated yourself. And yes, you can make up stuff.
Yeah i did because there\'s no other way to say it...simple...if she did nothing wrong she has nothing to worry about....since you guys keep saying there\'s nothing there, that should make her even feel more confident about gettin this thing out of the way.....she\'s avoiding it and voters are starting to take notice....
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Ah so now we get to the real reason you keep whining about this. You are so mad that he picked a woman. The only drama being created is by the leftist nuts you listen to.
Just google Rezko and Obama - amazing what you can learn.
Why would i be mad?..:confused:...i just thought McCain would\'ve had better sense than to go with somebody like her for vp,...he just lost some respect from me with his choice that\'s all....seriously if palin became the prez there would seriously be reason to worry. And c\'mon giga stop the bulls**t...you know for a fact that there are waay more qualified personnel than palin...i\'m gonna lose some respect for you if you think otherwise...:p
I\'m not voting for McCain but i did respect him because of his service ...and the way he talked it seemed like that he wouldn\'t play that political game...when he picked this chic,..i automatically knew why he did it, and he picked her for all the wrong reasons...
As far as rexko and obama are concerned i heard awhile back that rezko was in trouble but obama has nothing to do with whatever he did,..whatever transaction he and obama had was legit at least that was the conclusion that stated on the news, but that was awhile ago,..i\'ll research that info later.
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clips,
Don\'t take this too personal, but from the way you write you seem very uneducated. How old are you? Whenever you get pressed with an issue, your common response is something along the lines of, "I don\'t know, but what I do know is that Obama is the greatest thing since sliced." Great, I know your an Obama supporter, tell me something I don\'t know. I don\'t say this to you to make you feel bad, I say this because if you ever want to sound credible and persuasive you have to know what\'s going on in the world. You don\'t have to be an expert, but when someone asks you about something you don\'t know, research it, form an opinion, and fight back with facts. Blind faith will get you no-where. Your arguments are very circular, and often I find myself repeating things to you.
As much as I can\'t stand the NeoCon platform, i\'ve come to the conclusion that liberalism, in the words of Michael Savage, is a mental disorder. I like that you take an interest in politics, I just wish you had more substance.
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You are going to incedible heights to defend this chic...amazing.....i know they all lie,.they\'re politians....yeah i wish i could not cooperate if i got subpenoed(spel).....my ass will be locked up.....if i did nothing wrong, i would happily face the charges and blow it back up in the dems face afterwards, but she is not choosing to do that,...so if she\'s avoiding something as trivial as this, how does she plan to handle real issues when she\'s vp?....answer..she won\'t.
Oh well the minute you become a public figure your whole life is an open book, she should\'ve known this the moment she entered politics.....just like that lipstick on a pig comment....conservatives were offened by that remark even tho it\'s been used by McCain dozens of times,...and it\'s ok for palin to call herself a bulldog with lipstick, but she gets offended is somebody states lipstick on a pig?...:p...talk about causing a distraction, the republicans wanted to cause a distraction of gigantic proportions.
Yeah i did because there\'s no other way to say it...simple...if she did nothing wrong she has nothing to worry about....since you guys keep saying there\'s nothing there, that should make her even feel more confident about gettin this thing out of the way.....she\'s avoiding it and voters are starting to take notice....
Why was the fifth amendment part left out... don\'t want to face the truth?
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Why would i be mad?..:confused:...i just thought McCain would\'ve had better sense than to go with somebody like her for vp,...he just lost some respect from me with his choice that\'s all....seriously if palin became the prez there would seriously be reason to worry. And c\'mon giga stop the bulls**t...you know for a fact that there are waay more qualified personnel than palin...i\'m gonna lose some respect for you if you think otherwise...:p
You don\'t want Palin as VP because she\'s unqualified, and yet you\'re ready to put someone even less qualified as President? What kind of executive positions has Obama held? For that matter what executive positions has anyone on that ticket held? Just because you can run a presidential campaign doesn\'t make you fit to be president.
Learn some damn English and start forming cohesive sentences. Your writing is giving me a headache.
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clips,
Don\'t take this too personal, but from the way you write you seem very uneducated. How old are you? Whenever you get pressed with an issue, your common response is something along the lines of, "I don\'t know, but what I do know is that Obama is the greatest thing since sliced." Great, I know your an Obama supporter, tell me something I don\'t know. I don\'t say this to you to make you feel bad, I say this because if you ever want to sound credible and persuasive you have to know what\'s going on in the world. You don\'t have to be an expert, but when someone asks you about something you don\'t know, research it, form an opinion, and fight back with facts. Blind faith will get you no-where. Your arguments are very circular, and often I find myself repeating things to you.
As much as I can\'t stand the NeoCon platform, i\'ve come to the conclusion that liberalism, in the words of Michael Savage, is a mental disorder. I like that you take an interest in politics, I just wish you had more substance.
Well how can i agrue with this?...:p... Look i\'m not claiming to come in here and know everything about politics, what my arguments stem from is basic common sense,..i don\'t play the political card that drives these polticians and laws...i look at situations from a "normal guy" perspective....not from the political mumbo jumbo that is politics....like with the palin situatuion?...this isn\'t the national enquirer where you know that paper has lies, this is a just simple investigation that you and giga keep saying that nothing is there,..ok if nothing is there then there should be no problem...see simple?
But i admit and i\'ve stated before that i\'m not that knowledgable with the constitution or the legislative and executive branches of the gov\'t....and i\'m ok with that... when i argue with folks in here part of it is entertainment,but if i could walk away knowing something new that\'s always a plus,..people go to leaps and bounds to prove they are not wrong about anything,..if i say something and it tends to be wrong, i have no problem stating i was wrong,..it\'s just the internet....
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You don\'t want Palin as VP because she\'s unqualified, and yet you\'re ready to put someone even less qualified as President? What kind of executive positions has Obama held? For that matter what executive positions has anyone on that ticket held? Just because you can run a presidential campaign doesn\'t make you fit to be president.
Learn some damn English and start forming cohesive sentences. Your writing is giving me a headache.
See you didn\'t have to go and say that did you?...learn some english?..i see nothing wrong with what i wrote up top, so stop being petty. First of all 18 million folks voted for Obama so the experience argument is irrelevant....nobody voted for Palin....she was picked only to counter Hillarys women voters,..that is not a sign of leadership on the part of McCain. Obama could\'ve picked Hillary easily, but he picked somebody that complimented him with experience.
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Why was the fifth amendment part left out... don\'t want to face the truth?
There was alot to read(still not finished)...:p...yes it\'s her right to choose the 5th, but it doesn\'t make her look good by pleading it.......i haven\'t been to sleep since i came in from work,...you and giga have been keeping me up...:p...i\'ll finish reading the rest of that later...
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My advice to you clips,
Read the constitution. It is a blessed and wonderful article that our government seems to piss on at every opportunity. Electing Obama will essentially be like pouring gasoline on it and lighting a match. The constitution granted us rights... and as we progress through time, those rights keep getting taken away by democrats and neocons.
I was so disappointed when Ron Paul did not win the Republican nomination, because it further proved that the conservative movement in America is dead. What we\'ve become left with is the neoconservative (incase you don\'t know what neocon stood for clips) platform that dishes out pro-war propaganda (messages sent to sway opinion rather than state a fact).
When you see me getting frustrated with you it\'s because your exactly the kind of person that Obama is after... uneducated, again, not a shot at you, just the current state of affairs in America. I\'ll say this, he has great ideas, but he can\'t fund them without hurting the tax payers and he can\'t achieve them without taking away the rights of citizens. His ideas are like a balloon, they are mostly air.
Liberals are destroying this country. They want things at the expense of others. The government already takes a third of my paycheck, with Obama, I\'ll be lucky if I take home half. But who cares about hard working Americans, as long as we give money to those who didn\'t earn it. Tell me where in the constitution it says the hard working shall give money to the poor because of their lack of success in life. Who\'s fault is it anyway?
Read the constitution. Freshen up on Obama\'s policies, and you\'ll see how crooked the man really is behind that angelic image.
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There was alot to read(still not finished)...:p...yes it\'s her right to choose the 5th, but it doesn\'t make her look good by pleading it.......i haven\'t been to sleep since i came in from work,...you and giga have been keeping me up...:p...i\'ll finish reading the rest of that later...
I wanted you to read mostly the part about grand jury\'s and indictments... she has not been indicted yet... you might want to look up indictment.
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See you didn\'t have to go and say that did you?...learn some english?..i see nothing wrong with what i wrote up top, so stop being petty.
Stop using the word "chic(correctly spelled chick)", she doesn\'t work at Hooters.
First of all 18 million folks voted for Obama so the experience argument is irrelevant....nobody voted for Palin....she was picked only to counter Hillarys women voters,..that is not a sign of leadership on the part of McCain. Obama could\'ve picked Hillary easily, but he picked somebody that complimented him with experience.
Did McCain tell you that? I mean how else could you be 100% sure that it was true? You state your opinions like they\'re facts.
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Here\'s a good read about your buddy Obama:
http://blog.mises.org/archives/008007.asp (http://blog.mises.org/archives/008007.asp)
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Stop using the word "chic(correctly spelled chick)", she doesn\'t work at Hooters.
This is what i mean about bein\' petty..... in explaining why i think she should let the investigation fall thru, this is what you get out of it.
I wanted you to read mostly the part about grand jury\'s and indictments... she has not been indicted yet... you might want to look up indictment.
Yes she hasn\'t been indicted....but it\'s just not democrats that want this investigation, there\'s a few republicans that still want it as well....but yes she can do what she pleases....but i still stand by how i felt initially....so we\'re at a standstill in this story....i agree that we respectively disagree with each-other.
Did McCain tell you that? I mean how else could you be 100% sure that it was true? You state your opinions like they\'re facts.
It\'s pretty obvious why he picked her, and you call me naive?
Here\'s a good read about your buddy Obama:
http://blog.mises.org/archives/008007.asp
Meh,...there\'s alot of assumptions going on in that article,...and i see nothing wrong with him wanting to instill the attributes of malcom x, martin luther king jr. and nelson mandela within himself....the 1960\'s was a tough time for black folks and the civil rights movement....and the culture of that time may have given a young Obama some extreme ideas, but that is certaintly not the case now.
Liberals are destroying this country. They want things at the expense of others. The government already takes a third of my paycheck, with Obama, I\'ll be lucky if I take home half. But who cares about hard working Americans, as long as we give money to those who didn\'t earn it. Tell me where in the constitution it says the hard working shall give money to the poor because of their lack of success in life. Who\'s fault is it anyway?
90 - 95% of middle income families will recieve a tax cut under his plan,..do you make over $250,000?....i don\'t consider myself to be poor, but i\'am certaintly not making $250,000 at this stage in my life. He\'s actually giving money back to the hard working people you\'re talking about,...the middle class.
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Here\'s a good read about your buddy Obama:
http://blog.mises.org/archives/008007.asp (http://blog.mises.org/archives/008007.asp)
Biased.
Can\'t bother to read.
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and i see nothing wrong with him wanting to instill the attributes of malcom x... within himself....
I do. Most white people do... That is unless they have a mental disorder.
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Biased.
Can\'t bother to read.
So libertarians are biased now too, or is it just anyone who isn\'t a democrat? Log on to reddit/digg, most biased communities on the internet... and yet I visit them every day for the non-political articles, after filtering through the crap.
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So libertarians are biased now too, or is it just anyone who isn\'t a democrat? Log on to reddit/digg, most biased communities on the internet... and yet I visit them every day for the non-political articles, after filtering through the crap.
Keep up with the discussion.
Everytime anyone posts a link about Palin, Giga and Gman respond with how that link is biased. So, I\'m just returning the favor.
You\'re crappy posts give me headache.
Thank you.
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I do. Most white people do... That is unless they have a mental disorder.
Malcom X was just the opposite of martin luther king in a sense...he wanted equal rights for black folks as well, but he felt that black folks should take to arms and defend themselves against those white folks that wanted to do harm to them, while martin luther king preached peace even inthe face of violence.....
I think very early on in his teachings he felt some extreme anger towards white folks and wanted nothing to do with them...and this was the the sixties so i can see why most white folk hated a black person of his nature that wasn\'t going to take no s**t from them. But as he broke away from the teachings of elijah muhamed(spel)...he softened his stance towards white folks but was still skeptical of them....towards the end of his life, he was actually talking more like martin luther king...in the sense that black & whites should exist together peacefully.
I can\'t really blame some white folks for feeling that way tho, especially back then, since most white folks and blacks accepted the culture as "natural" back then....blacks sitting in the back of the bus was normal,..seperate bathrooms for whites and blacks was normal,...water fountains etc....i even asked my parents about how they managed to live through those times, and they would simply answer.."that is just how it was back then"...."they even told me that you had to be in the house after dark cause you could actually end up bein\' beaten badly or possibly lyched by white folks back then"....even white folks that wasn\'t racist just thought that this situation was natural in the way that blacks and whites engaged each-other.
It wasn\'t until the civil rights movement until some white folks started to take notice that the treatment of blacks was unfair....so i don\'t see how whites as you described could be upset with malcom x, when they in fact created this whole segregated culture back then.
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yea, giga doesn\'t talk for most white people,haha
malcom x\'s ideas included violence, but i understand why he would feel like that was the answer after riots like the one during the MLK walk across that one bridge..cant remember where it was but it was f-ed up. If i was part of group getting beaten like they were, my first reaction would be violence and not peace
i mean, it\'s bad for citizens to treat eachother poorly because of race, but when it\'s law enforcement at the scale it used to be, it\'s that much more messed up and violent
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I would just like to state that almost all my friends are black.
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Malcom X was just the opposite of martin luther king in a sense...he wanted equal rights for black folks as well, but he felt that black folks should take to arms and defend themselves against those white folks that wanted to do harm to them, while martin luther king preached peace even inthe face of violence.....
I think very early on in his teachings he felt some extreme anger towards white folks and wanted nothing to do with them...and this was the the sixties so i can see why most white folk hated a black person of his nature that wasn\'t going to take no s**t from them. But as he broke away from the teachings of elijah muhamed(spel)...he softened his stance towards white folks but was still skeptical of them....towards the end of his life, he was actually talking more like martin luther king...in the sense that black & whites should exist together peacefully.
I can\'t really blame some white folks for feeling that way tho, especially back then, since most white folks and blacks accepted the culture as "natural" back then....blacks sitting in the back of the bus was normal,..seperate bathrooms for whites and blacks was normal,...water fountains etc....i even asked my parents about how they managed to live through those times, and they would simply answer.."that is just how it was back then"...."they even told me that you had to be in the house after dark cause you could actually end up bein\' beaten badly or possibly lyched by white folks back then"....even white folks that wasn\'t racist just thought that this situation was natural in the way that blacks and whites engaged each-other.
It wasn\'t until the civil rights movement until some white folks started to take notice that the treatment of blacks was unfair....so i don\'t see how whites as you described could be upset with malcom x, when they in fact created this whole segregated culture back then.
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I would just like to state that almost all my friends are black.
Want a cookie? My roommate was black.
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im black sup niggaz
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Clinton doesn\'t fault Hillary voters for voting Palin...
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5857530
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Clinton doesn\'t fault Hillary voters for voting Palin...
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5857530
Even though I didn\'t like Bill, I will admit the guy was a great communicator.
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Clinton was a great prez, and he\'s right in what he states in that interview,...people vote for a candidate for a variety of reasons.....but i can\'t agree with Bill on the issue of hillary and Obama,..if you were voting for hillary, then all of a sudden you\'re votin\' for palin because she\'s a woman?....how shallow is that?...so when you reach a certain threshold in your life or when you\'re well off, you stop votin\' for people that you feel might actually help the country, and instead you vote on such shallow standards?
I\'m not believing that,.... if hillary voters that are switching to McCain/Palin because of Palin,...i know otherwise,..it\'s simply because Obama is black,..everybody likes to pussyfoot around that issue....Obama & hillary had just about thee exact same policies,....there\'s no reason to switch...if hillary was the nominee i would\'ve voted for her with no problem...i like Bill, but he can\'t even put his full support behind Obama, he\'s still holding a grudge because Hillary lost....he needs to stop acting like that and support the democratic nominee with a bit more ethusiasm.
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Clinton was a great prez, and he\'s right in what he states in that interview,...people vote for a candidate for a variety of reasons.....but i can\'t agree with Bill on the issue of hillary and Obama,..if you were voting for hillary, then all of a sudden you\'re votin\' for palin because she\'s a woman?....how shallow is that?...so when you reach a certain threshold in your life or when you\'re well off, you stop votin\' for people that you feel might actually help the country, and instead you vote on such shallow standards?
I\'m not believing that,.... if hillary voters that are switching to McCain/Palin because of Palin,...i know otherwise,..it\'s simply because Obama is black,..everybody likes to pussyfoot around that issue....Obama & hillary had just about thee exact same policies,....there\'s no reason to switch...if hillary was the nominee i would\'ve voted for her with no problem...i like Bill, but he can\'t even put his full support behind Obama, he\'s still holding a grudge because Hillary lost....he needs to stop acting like that and support the democratic nominee with a bit more ethusiasm.
Most women were voting for Hillary because she is a woman. All blacks are voting for 0bama because he is black. Go figure...
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I knew you\'d step into this land mine. Giga pointed it out. :laughing:
Clinton was a great prez, and he\'s right in what he states in that interview,...people vote for a candidate for a variety of reasons.....but i can\'t agree with Bill on the issue of hillary and Obama,..if you were voting for hillary, then all of a sudden you\'re votin\' for palin because she\'s a woman?....how shallow is that?...so when you reach a certain threshold in your life or when you\'re well off, you stop votin\' for people that you feel might actually help the country, and instead you vote on such shallow standards?
I\'m not believing that,.... if hillary voters that are switching to McCain/Palin because of Palin,...i know otherwise,..it\'s simply because Obama is black,..everybody likes to pussyfoot around that issue....Obama & hillary had just about thee exact same policies,....there\'s no reason to switch...if hillary was the nominee i would\'ve voted for her with no problem...i like Bill, but he can\'t even put his full support behind Obama, he\'s still holding a grudge because Hillary lost....he needs to stop acting like that and support the democratic nominee with a bit more ethusiasm.
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Most women were voting for Hillary because she is a woman. All blacks are voting for 0bama because he is black. Go figure...
And i knew that he would counter with this...predicable....we\'ve been down this road before...most blacks vote democratic anyway...so i guess when Bill was going for the presidency most blacks voted for him because he\'s white?....maybe some blacks are votin\' because he\'s black but for the most part blacks vote democratic anyway.
And even before palin was on the ticket, there were some hillary voters votin\' for McCain simply because they stated.."they didn\'t like Obama"...or "they can\'t trust him"..pathetic....so now they are votin\' for palin simply because she\'s a woman?..:rolleyes:...i\'ve read between the lines a long time ago,...if you guys want to continue to act like race isn\'t an issue go ahead.
I just know that blacks have never stated.."uhm i\'m not votin\' for so-in-so cause he\'s white"...nope we came out and voted for that white candidate with no problem at all....and let\'s be honest about obama...he\'s right down the middle...here\'s a guy that is not as strong minded as say Al Sharpton, but he\'s also not an uncle tom sellout....he\'s a highly intelligent & educated person that some feel might make a difference in this country..he really just comes across as an average guy and not your generic political zombie....but you have those voters that i\'ve mentioned here and in that other thread that won\'t vote for obama simply because he\'s black...it\'s 2008 and we shouldn\'t be votin\' soley because of a person\'s gender or race...
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And people who vote for McCain are old homophobic Christians.
See how it works?|
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And i knew that he would counter with this...predicable....we\'ve been down this road before...most blacks vote democratic anyway...so i guess when Bill was going for the presidency most blacks voted for him because he\'s white?....maybe some blacks are votin\' because he\'s black but for the most part blacks vote democratic anyway.
And even before palin was on the ticket, there were some hillary voters votin\' for McCain simply because they stated.."they didn\'t like Obama"...or "they can\'t trust him"..pathetic....so now they are votin\' for palin simply because she\'s a woman?..:rolleyes:...i\'ve read between the lines a long time ago,...if you guys want to continue to act like race isn\'t an issue go ahead.
I just know that blacks have never stated.."uhm i\'m not votin\' for so-in-so cause he\'s white"...nope we came out and voted for that white candidate with no problem at all....and let\'s be honest about obama...he\'s right down the middle...here\'s a guy that is not as strong minded as say Al Sharpton, but he\'s also not an uncle tom sellout....he\'s a highly intelligent & educated person that some feel might make a difference in this country..he really just comes across as an average guy and not your generic political zombie....but you have those voters that i\'ve mentioned here and in that other thread that won\'t vote for obama simply because he\'s black...it\'s 2008 and we shouldn\'t be votin\' soley because of a person\'s gender or race...
Obama right down the middle? :rofl: :rofl: Black people are so funny.
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Obama right down the middle? :rofl: :rofl: Black people are so funny.
Whatever...the point was that he doesn\'t have that strong minded view like that of sharpton...people do not see that pro-black affirmitave action threatning prescence when they view obama....capeesh?...hence why he had a solid following amongst white folks during the campaigns...(it still doesn\'t dismiss the fact that some won\'t vote for him because of his race)...but he\'s coming across as somebody that wants to help everybody,...and not somebody that is soley going to be looking after the best interest of only afri. americans as some blacks would like for him to do....
My main point in general was that race is going to play a role in this election, and that some of you guys are foolish to think that it won\'t. I see between the lines of why some are voting against obama for thee most outrageous reasons, when intially they were voting for hillary.
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Whatever...the point was that he doesn\'t have that strong minded view like that of sharpton...people do not see that pro-black affirmitave action threatning prescence when they view obama....capeesh?...hence why he had a solid following amongst white folks during the campaigns...(it still doesn\'t dismiss the fact that some won\'t vote for him because of his race)...but he\'s coming across as somebody that wants to help everybody,...and not somebody that is soley going to be looking after the best interest of only afri. americans as some blacks would like for him to do....
My main point in general was that race is going to play a role in this election, and that some of you guys are foolish to think that it won\'t. I see between the lines of why some are voting against obama for thee most outrageous reasons, when intially they were voting for hillary.
No... they see Reverend Wright.
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clips,
race had never been an issue before in a presidential election, so to say they were voting democratic anyway is meaningless. The true test would be if a black republican was running... then we can test yours and giga\'s theory.
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No... they see Reverend Wright.
And Obama turned around and gave one of the greatest speeches on race relations in america, and more than re-assured voters that he was ready to confront that controversial issue and bring folks together.
clips,
race had never been an issue before in a presidential election, so to say they were voting democratic anyway is meaningless. The true test would be if a black republican was running... then we can test yours and giga\'s theory.
Well there was a black republican that ran some years ago, but i forgot his name,...he was rather forgettable in the same sense in how Al Sharpton & that other afri american woman ran for the presidency in the last election,...they were virtually non-existant.....the only other time that i remember a black presidential candidate causing this much ruckus was jessie jackson, but i was kinda young for that one...
But for the most part blacks have mostly always voted democratic...so to spin it and say all of a sudden that blacks are votin\' for him because he\'s black is kinda silly(again i do think some are votin\' because of that fact), but i also feel some are voting on his views and policies and on the notion that they feel he will have a positive impact on the country.
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clips,
race had never been an issue before in a presidential election, so to say they were voting democratic anyway is meaningless. The true test would be if a black republican was running... then we can test yours and giga\'s theory.
Black Republican? Heh... right.....
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Black Republican? Heh... right.....
Condelezza Rice? Black, Female, and Republican. The trifecta!
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I know quite a few black republicans. But they aren\'t poor like clips. ;)
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And Obama turned around and gave one of the greatest speeches on race relations in america, and more than re-assured voters that he was ready to confront that controversial issue and bring folks together.
If we were face to face I would ask you to quote me one sentence from "one of the greatest speeches on race relations", as I am sure you couldn\'t. The speech was forgettable. Christopher Hitchens wrote an article about how forgettable he is.
0bama doesn\'t bring people together, he drives them apart. If he wins, do you think people will accept him as President? Given his extreme leftist views and all? He won\'t be my President and I hope the right goes after him with a vengence to get him impeached by any means necessary. I have nothing but disgust for 0bama and wish him the nothing but misfortune. Wart and all.
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0bama doesn\'t bring people together, he drives them apart. If he wins, do you think people will accept him as President? Given his extreme leftist views and all?
Plus, I heard one time he ate a baby!
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Doesn\'t he have his own brand of waffles?
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I know quite a few black republicans. But they aren\'t poor like clips. ;)
My bad. There are no POOR black republicans.
There, that\'s better.
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Doesn\'t he have his own brand of waffles?
Yep..
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If we were face to face I would ask you to quote me one sentence from "one of the greatest speeches on race relations", as I am sure you couldn\'t. The speech was forgettable. Christopher Hitchens wrote an article about how forgettable he is.
0bama doesn\'t bring people together, he drives them apart. If he wins, do you think people will accept him as President? Given his extreme leftist views and all? He won\'t be my President and I hope the right goes after him with a vengence to get him impeached by any means necessary. I have nothing but disgust for 0bama and wish him the nothing but misfortune. Wart and all.
There are alot of great speeches that i can\'t remember word for word, but does that make them forgettable?...nope...and stop with the hateful attitude...i may not want McCain as prez, but i still respect the guy and certainly don\'t hate him in the way you are of Obama,...you\'re talking impeachment already?...and the guy has done nothing?....great logic there sherlock!
If he does become prez, how about you take the wait & see approach? One thing that is certain, whoever becomes prez is going to have their hands full, and there are going to be alot of tough decisions to be made that alot of americans are not going to be happy with, regardless of who is in the whitehouse.
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I know quite a few black republicans. But they aren\'t poor like clips. ;)
Uh..can you spare a dollar sir?....uhm...i mean $30.00...sorry the days of asking for a couple of dollars are over...y\'know, inflation?...:D
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By Roger Hobaugh, Concerned Citizen
Roger Hobaugh
There may be no better word to describe John McCain\'s vice presidential pick than "ridiculous."
After months of criticizing Sen. Obama for his inexperience with foreign policy, McCain has chosen quite possibly the least experienced woman in politics to serve as his second-in-command. How little experience does Palin have, you ask? She was a part-time mayor of a tiny Alaska town and then governor of one of the least populous states in the union for less than two years. Palin has never met with any foreign leaders of any kind—in fact, she only applied for a U.S. passport last year!
In this time of international turmoil, how could McCain, a man who would become the oldest candidate ever elected, select a novice like Palin knowing she would be one heartbeat away from having to step into the presidency and protect our nation? The mere notion that Palin is even remotely equipped to manage the ongoing war on terror is an out-and-out fantasy dreamt up by the Republican party to disguise why they really selected her: to attract female and evangelical voters in a desperate attempt to win the election at any cost—even if it means sacrificing our nation\'s security.
McCain has chosen for his running mate a woman who is so set in the past that she supports abstinence-only education despite its failure among her own children; a woman who claims she is not convinced that global warming is a serious issue. Palin has time and again supported needless and ecologically destructive drilling in Alaska\'s wildlife reserves—drilling that McCain himself is ardently opposed to—yet offers no plan for the very real and proven threat of climate change, despite the danger it poses to her home state.
Perhaps the most frightening prospect of putting Palin in the White House is her continued support of the failing war in Iraq—a war she called "a task that is from God." Electing Sarah Palin and John McCain in November will no doubt prolong this costly and unwinnable conflict, which every day claims the lives of more American troops and sinks our country further into debt.
Palin is not a bold new choice for America. I have no doubt she will provide the same type of irresponsible and flat-out dangerous leadership we\'ve seen from President Bush for the past eight years. That is, if she provides any leadership at all.
Counterpoint
Please Keep Your Voice Down, My Poor Retarded Child Is Sleeping
By Gov. Sarah Palin, Republican Vice Presidential Nominee
Palin
Shhhh!
Could you please stop tearing apart my record so loudly? I just put my special needs child down for a nap. You remember my poor, Down syndrome baby, don\'t you? The developmentally disabled child I carried to term despite knowing that he had special needs? The child who would be helpless without my constant care and attention? Well, he\'s just nodded off, and if you continue to provide such damning evidence of my inexperience in both foreign and domestic policy, you\'ll wake him.
You wouldn\'t want him to start crying, would you?
It\'s very rude of you to keep pointing out the myriad reasons I am unfit to be the governor of Alaska, much less vice president of the United States of America, when you know my Down syndrome–afflicted son is trying to get some much-needed rest. If you wanted to question my qualifications as a leader, you should have thought of that sooner, like, say, before I gave birth to a retarded child who would probably starve to death if I weren\'t so selflessly and courageously dedicated to him.
Actually, he\'ll probably be sleeping for a while, so maybe it would be best if you came back later. Perhaps this afternoon, or in a couple of months. It\'s just that he gets so tired having to struggle with even the simplest tasks that you and I take for granted. Because my special needs son has Down syndrome, you see. My child has Down syndrome. And, as the mother of a baby with Down syndrome, I would appreciate it if you stopped bringing up my nonexistent energy plan while he sleeps there, like an angel.
My beautiful, special needs angel.
I assure you, I have every intention of responding to your claims. Sarah Palin does not run from a challenge. Like the challenge of raising a child with Down syndrome. That\'s what I\'ve been doing for five months now, and let me tell you, it is hard work. But I wouldn\'t trade a moment of it for anything in the world, not even for more time to respond to the gaping holes you\'ve just punched in my candidacy. Did I mention he has Down syndrome?
Now, if you\'ll please back away quietly without saying anything else—especially about my recent comments regarding Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and how they illustrate my complete lack of even a basic understanding of our economy—I\'ll forget this whole thing ever happened.
And so will my vote-stealing retard baby.
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...and stop with the hateful attitude...i may not want McCain as prez, but i still respect the guy and certainly don\'t hate him in the way you are of Obama,...you\'re talking impeachment already?...and the guy has done nothing?....great logic there sherlock!
If he does become prez, how about you take the wait & see approach? One thing that is certain, whoever becomes prez is going to have their hands full, and there are going to be alot of tough decisions to be made that alot of americans are not going to be happy with, regardless of who is in the whitehouse.
The left started this hate back in 2000, now deal with the backlash. If 0bama gets elected you will see more hatred than you can imagine.
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By Roger Hobaugh, Concerned Citizen
Roger Hobaugh
There may be no better word to describe John McCain\'s vice presidential pick than "ridiculous."
After months of criticizing Sen. Obama for his inexperience with foreign policy, McCain has chosen quite possibly the least experienced woman in politics to serve as his second-in-command. How little experience does Palin have, you ask? She was a part-time mayor of a tiny Alaska town and then governor of one of the least populous states in the union for less than two years. Palin has never met with any foreign leaders of any kind—in fact, she only applied for a U.S. passport last year!
In this time of international turmoil, how could McCain, a man who would become the oldest candidate ever elected, select a novice like Palin knowing she would be one heartbeat away from having to step into the presidency and protect our nation? The mere notion that Palin is even remotely equipped to manage the ongoing war on terror is an out-and-out fantasy dreamt up by the Republican party to disguise why they really selected her: to attract female and evangelical voters in a desperate attempt to win the election at any cost—even if it means sacrificing our nation\'s security.
McCain has chosen for his running mate a woman who is so set in the past that she supports abstinence-only education despite its failure among her own children; a woman who claims she is not convinced that global warming is a serious issue. Palin has time and again supported needless and ecologically destructive drilling in Alaska\'s wildlife reserves—drilling that McCain himself is ardently opposed to—yet offers no plan for the very real and proven threat of climate change, despite the danger it poses to her home state.
Perhaps the most frightening prospect of putting Palin in the White House is her continued support of the failing war in Iraq—a war she called "a task that is from God." Electing Sarah Palin and John McCain in November will no doubt prolong this costly and unwinnable conflict, which every day claims the lives of more American troops and sinks our country further into debt.
Palin is not a bold new choice for America. I have no doubt she will provide the same type of irresponsible and flat-out dangerous leadership we\'ve seen from President Bush for the past eight years. That is, if she provides any leadership at all.
Counterpoint
Please Keep Your Voice Down, My Poor Retarded Child Is Sleeping
By Gov. Sarah Palin, Republican Vice Presidential Nominee
Palin
Shhhh!
Could you please stop tearing apart my record so loudly? I just put my special needs child down for a nap. You remember my poor, Down syndrome baby, don\'t you? The developmentally disabled child I carried to term despite knowing that he had special needs? The child who would be helpless without my constant care and attention? Well, he\'s just nodded off, and if you continue to provide such damning evidence of my inexperience in both foreign and domestic policy, you\'ll wake him.
You wouldn\'t want him to start crying, would you?
It\'s very rude of you to keep pointing out the myriad reasons I am unfit to be the governor of Alaska, much less vice president of the United States of America, when you know my Down syndrome–afflicted son is trying to get some much-needed rest. If you wanted to question my qualifications as a leader, you should have thought of that sooner, like, say, before I gave birth to a retarded child who would probably starve to death if I weren\'t so selflessly and courageously dedicated to him.
Actually, he\'ll probably be sleeping for a while, so maybe it would be best if you came back later. Perhaps this afternoon, or in a couple of months. It\'s just that he gets so tired having to struggle with even the simplest tasks that you and I take for granted. Because my special needs son has Down syndrome, you see. My child has Down syndrome. And, as the mother of a baby with Down syndrome, I would appreciate it if you stopped bringing up my nonexistent energy plan while he sleeps there, like an angel.
My beautiful, special needs angel.
I assure you, I have every intention of responding to your claims. Sarah Palin does not run from a challenge. Like the challenge of raising a child with Down syndrome. That\'s what I\'ve been doing for five months now, and let me tell you, it is hard work. But I wouldn\'t trade a moment of it for anything in the world, not even for more time to respond to the gaping holes you\'ve just punched in my candidacy. Did I mention he has Down syndrome?
Now, if you\'ll please back away quietly without saying anything else—especially about my recent comments regarding Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and how they illustrate my complete lack of even a basic understanding of our economy—I\'ll forget this whole thing ever happened.
And so will my vote-stealing retard baby.
You are sick... really. Get help.
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"And so will my vote-stealing retard baby."
Classic.... Very sick.... Classic.....
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http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4476649n
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And let\'s not forget her foreign policy experience...:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv6CRObROV0
What in the world was she talking about?...:confused:...she sounds like that dumb blond beauty pageant chick from south carolina from over a year ago...:laughing:....this is evidence why McCain & crew are keeping her quiet...she is not ready at all...
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And let\'s not forget her foreign policy experience...:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv6CRObROV0
What in the world was she talking about?...:confused:...she sounds like that dumb blond beauty pageant chick from south carolina from over a year ago...:laughing:....this is evidence why McCain & crew are keeping her quiet...she is not ready at all...
Let\'s not forget 0bama\'s foreign policy experience. :neener: Ever watch him speak?
He sounds like a the black version of Stuttering John from Howard Stern.
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This is palin...back in her beauty pageant years...:laughing:...ahhh it seems she even had that airhead quality in her younger years...:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
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Is Palin ready to be president?...I\'ll let you decide...:laughing:..this chick is pathetic...
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/is-palin-qualified-to-be-president/
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McCain has Palin speading lies again....i guess when you have nothing left to stand on, you have to try to connect Obama with terrorists....they are looking incredibly desperate...:laughing:...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/05/palin.obama.terrorist.claim/index.html
"Palin attacked Sen. Obama on Saturday for his brief political relationship with Bill Ayers, a founding member of the radical Weather Underground, which was involved in several bombings in the early 1970s, including attacks on the Pentagon and the Capitol. Obama was a child at the time of the bombings"
^^^Obama was 8 years old when this nut was causing chaos, and they want to connect him with that?...pathetic...i thought there was more important matters we should be discussing....I guess the "mavericks" have other things on their agenda.
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McCain has Palin speading lies again....i guess when you have nothing left to stand on, you have to try to connect Obama with terrorists....they are looking incredibly desperate...:laughing:...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/05/palin.obama.terrorist.claim/index.html
"Palin attacked Sen. Obama on Saturday for his brief political relationship with Bill Ayers, a founding member of the radical Weather Underground, which was involved in several bombings in the early 1970s, including attacks on the Pentagon and the Capitol. Obama was a child at the time of the bombings"
^^^Obama was 8 years old when this nut was causing chaos, and they want to connect him with that?...pathetic...i thought there was more important matters we should be discussing....I guess the "mavericks" have other things on their agenda.
mccain\'s camp is just sounding way too much like the current administration. Between using words like "terrorist" to scare people into thinking a certain way, and having the only "strategy" for iraq being a surge..
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McCain has Palin speading lies again....i guess when you have nothing left to stand on, you have to try to connect Obama with terrorists....they are looking incredibly desperate...:laughing:...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/05/palin.obama.terrorist.claim/index.html
"Palin attacked Sen. Obama on Saturday for his brief political relationship with Bill Ayers, a founding member of the radical Weather Underground, which was involved in several bombings in the early 1970s, including attacks on the Pentagon and the Capitol. Obama was a child at the time of the bombings"
^^^Obama was 8 years old when this nut was causing chaos, and they want to connect him with that?...pathetic...i thought there was more important matters we should be discussing....I guess the "mavericks" have other things on their agenda.
Obama and Bill Ayers... uh are you so blind you don\'t see it? Ayers is not sorry for what he did and stated he didn\'t do enough. He said that what? 2 years ago? Ayers is a terrorist. Planting bombs in federal buildings doesn\'t qualify you as a terrorist? Obama is a joke.
Oh and Obama has more problems than just that. The FEC is going to look into him accepting foreign donations, which is illegal.
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Obama and Bill Ayers... uh are you so blind you don\'t see it? Ayers is not sorry for what he did and stated he didn\'t do enough. He said that what? 2 years ago? Ayers is a terrorist. Planting bombs in federal buildings doesn\'t qualify you as a terrorist? Obama is a joke.
Oh and Obama has more problems than just that. The FEC is going to look into him accepting foreign donations, which is illegal.
You are really starting to scare me....you believe anything that comes from the McCain camp...you honestly believe he condones what this guy did? It happened decades ago when Obama was 8 years old...since then they have worked on charity projects for school improvements, and i\'m not sure if Obama was aware of what this guy did at the time of the charity event, but i guess something good and benefitial for the school system like that flies over your head and that "Obama hangs out with terrorists?"..:rolleyes:..is something you\'d rather focus on.....I cannot believe you actually believe this.
One thing that is clear, and that is the McCain camp is using tactics such as these to distract the american public, and you\'re obviously a sucker for it. As far as accepting those donations? innocent until proven guilty, and even then it\'s not a big deal....do you actually think the average joe is going to be caring about whether Obama accepted these donations or not?...nope...the average joe is worrying about the economy and wondering if he\'ll be able to pay his mortgage or have a job tomorrow,....something that McCain & co are desperatly trying throw a curveball at.....they are becoming the joke of the campaign and have reduced themselves to having the credibility of the national enquirer...absolutely shameful..
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I have know about Ayers and Obama long before McCain brought it up. He is friends with the guy and Ayers launched Obama\'s political career.
Obama also hangs around racist blacks. Wright needs to be brought into the spotlight too.
As for the donations. Yes it is a big deal. Obama got 34 million from foreign sources.
RNC to File FEC Complaint on Obama Fundraising Practices
By Matthew Mosk
A lawyer for the Republican National Committee today said the party will ask the Federal Election Commission to look into the source of thousands of small-dollar contributions to the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama.
The RNC is alleging that the Obama campaign was so hungry for donations it "looked the other way" as contributions piled up from suspicious, and possibly even illegal foreign donors.
"We believe that the American people should know first and foremost if foreign money is pouring into a presidential election," said RNC Chief Counsel Sean Cairncross.
Cairncross alleged there was mounting evidence of this, and cited a report in the current issue of Newsweek magazine that documents a handful of instances where donors made repeated small donations using fake names, such as "Good Will" and "Doodad Pro."
The Newsweek report says that earlier this year the Obama campaign returned $33,000 to two Palestinian brothers in the Gaza Strip who had bought T-shirts in bulk from the campaign\'s online store -- purchases that count as campaign contributions. The brothers had listed their address as "Ga.," which the campaign took to mean Georgia rather than Gaza.
"While no organization is completely protected from Internet fraud, we will continue to review our fundraising procedures," Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told the magazine.
At the heart of the RNC complaint is a federal fundraising rule that lets campaigns accept donations under $200 without itemizing the names and addresses of the donors on its campaign finance reports. The rule was intended as a matter of practicality -- it did not seem reasonable to ask a campaign to gather that information from every five-dollar donor.
But the Obama campaign has raised more than $200 million this way, a staggering sum for donations that will not be subjected to outside scrutiny.
Obama campaign aides said today that a number of steps have been taken to safeguard against foreign or illegal contributions coming in in smaller increments. The measures include: requiring donors to present a passport at fundraising events held for Americans overseas, ending contributions to the Obama Store from contributors with addresses outside the U.S. or its territories, and requiring donors to enter a U.S. passport number when contributing via the Americans Abroad page.
"When we were made aware of an ad for a Nigerians for Obama fundraiser in a Nigerian paper, our attorneys sent a letter to the paper making it clear the event had nothing to do with our campaign, and that we would not accept contributions from the event," one Obama aide said.
And aides note that Sen. John McCain had his own foreign fundraising issues, having been forced to refund about $50,000 in donations solicited by Jordanian Mustafa Abu Naba\'a, who was raising money on behalf of one of McCain\'s top Florida bundlers.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/05/rnc_to_file_fec_complaint_on_o.html?hpid=topnews
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WoW....now you\'re bringing up reverend wright?...:laughing:...that issue was squashed months ago and Obama gave a good speech on race relations about it and closed that chapter, and for the most part people have accepted it. Now you think it needs to be raised again? Let me ask you,..do you honestly feel that is important? You sound just as desperate as both McCain & Palin....and what you posted up above is showing that both McCain and Obama have some fundraising issues....i can see how hard it can be to tract where some of the money is coming from,..and it seems that when either side finds out the money source comes from a shady organization, the money is swiftly sent back....
And it\'s no wonder that the RNC is leading the investigation on this one...:p
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WoW....now you\'re bringing up reverend wright?...:laughing:...that issue was squashed months ago and Obama gave a good speech on race relations about it and closed that chapter, and for the most part people have accepted it. Now you think it needs to be raised again? Let me ask you,..do you honestly feel that is important? You sound just as desperate as both McCain & Palin....and what you posted up above is showing that both McCain and Obama have some fundraising issues....i can see how hard it can be to tract where some of the money is coming from,..and it seems that when either side finds out the money source comes from a shady organization, the money is swiftly sent back....
And it\'s no wonder that the RNC is leading the investigation on this one...:p
Yes I do think it is important and no it was not "squashed" months ago. That speech he gave was yawn inducing. I am not desperate. The only one who sounds like they are in a panic is you. If it was nothing - why are you even bringing it up? Sounds to me you want to censor the truth and freedom of speech. Something Obama and his campaign are notorious for.
These are legitimate issues that show the kind of character Obama has. He is part of the same old corrupt Chicago political machine that has been around for decades. It also shows that Obama is a borderline marxist and a closet racist. He is not fit for the office of President.
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Yes I do think it is important and no it was not "squashed" months ago. That speech he gave was yawn inducing. I am not desperate. The only one who sounds like they are in a panic is you. If it was nothing - why are you even bringing it up? Sounds to me you want to censor the truth and freedom of speech. Something Obama and his campaign are notorious for.
These are legitimate issues that show the kind of character Obama has. He is part of the same old corrupt Chicago political machine that has been around for decades. It also shows that Obama is a borderline marxist and a closet racist. He is not fit for the office of President.
I was the one that brought up reverend wright?...:rofl:....Obama\'s a closet racist?....i\'m not even going to entertain that...the fact is that McCain has pulled a stunt saying that he will stop campaigning to try to save the economy which was bulls**t, he even went on to say that the debates should be post-poned until we find a solution,(obviously trying to give Palin more practice time for her debate) he went back to washington where both he and Obama sat down to give their thoughts on the issue....those that attended that meeting stated McCain did not add anything to the meeting (they even asked him "what do you have add senator? and he replied that he wanted to wait and talk to his fellow republicans...pathetic)...while these same individuals stated Obama gave clear statements on where he stands, and what needs to be done.
McCain went back to washington and accomplished nothing, he was trying to act like that he was responsible for getting the bill passed when in fact when at the time when he saying this on the campaign trail, the bill did not pass....then he turns around and tries to blame the economy on Obama?...it\'s no wonder that even republicans are scratching their heads whenever McCain opens his mouth...i\'m not panicking at all..i\'m laughing at MCain & Palin....
McCain is going to try smear tactics since he has nothing else to run on, and Palin will self-destruct on her own with the stupidity she displays everytime she opens her mouth.
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I was the one that brought up reverend wright?...:rofl:....Obama\'s a closet racist?....i\'m not even going to entertain that...the fact is that McCain has pulled a stunt saying that he will stop campaigning to try to save the economy which was bulls**t, he even went on to say that the debates should be post-poned until we find a solution,(obviously trying to give Palin more practice time for her debate) he went back to washington where both he and Obama sat down to give their thoughts on the issue....those that attended that meeting stated McCain did not add anything to the meeting (they even asked him "what do you have add senator? and he replied that he wanted to wait and talk to his fellow republicans...pathetic)...while these same individuals stated Obama gave clear statements on where he stands, and what needs to be done.
McCain went back to washington and accomplished nothing, he was trying to act like that he was responsible for getting the bill passed when in fact when at the time when he saying this on the campaign trail, the bill did not pass....then he turns around and tries to blame the economy on Obama?...it\'s no wonder that even republicans are scratching their heads whenever McCain opens his mouth...i\'m not panicking at all..i\'m laughing at MCain & Palin....
McCain is going to try smear tactics since he has nothing else to run on, and Palin will self-destruct on her own with the stupidity she displays everytime she opens her mouth.
WTF? Babble much? I picture you frothing at the mouth while typing that incoherent rant.
I believe it is your VP nominee who has the gift of stupidity every time he opens his mouth.
Stop rehashing Obama campaign talking points and interject some free thought every now and then. It might help your case.
The fact is Obama has shady ties to a whole list of American rejects. Bill Ayers, Wright, Rezko... it goes on and on. These are not casual relationships either.
McCain went back to Washington to confer with his Republican peers in the House and Senate - it is his job as a Senator you know? Something Obama doesn\'t understand since he is never there and has never accomplished anything since being elected. McCain accomplished what he set out to do. Since you are quoting McCain - provide links. As far as the bail out bill - I disagree with him on it. I think he should have voted against it.
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Giga,
man you sure have a temper and attitude there. Calm down dude. You usually insulted anyone who doesn\'t agree with you in this forums. Maybe if you try to talk without calling people names, and the such. they will respect you more.
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Giga,
man you sure have a temper and attitude there. Calm down dude. You usually insulted anyone who doesn\'t agree with you in this forums. Maybe if you try to talk without calling people names, and the such. they will respect you more.
Tell me again why I should care if people "respect" me here? :rofl:
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. He is part of the same old corrupt Chicago political machine that has been around for decades.
Decades? Shit Chicago has been the capitol of political corruption for a hundred years(outside the federal government that is). This one point i\'ll have to agree with you on. Being from the Chicago area i have a built-in mistrust of any politician from Illinois (check out our governor, i\'ll take palin\'s "abuse of power" over blago robbing the state
blind and dont get me started on the cook county commissioner.) and this isnt no good ole boy network, illinois failures rest solely on the shoulder of the democrats in our state, obama included
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Tell me again why I should care if people "respect" me here? :rofl:
Good question. You lose your credibility of your opinions when you insulted people in this forum. But since you don\'t care. Then, I got nothing to say.
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clips,
race had never been an issue before in a presidential election, so to say they were voting democratic anyway is meaningless. The true test would be if a black republican was running... then we can test yours and giga\'s theory.
Alan Keyes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Keyes)
He\'s running on as an Independent this year. You probably haven\'t heard shit about him, but he\'ll be on the ballot Nov. 4th and will get almost no votes. He runs for President almost every election. :fro:
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Alan Keyes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Keyes)
He\'s running on as an Independent this year. You probably haven\'t heard shit about him, but he\'ll be on the ballot Nov. 4th and will get almost no votes. He runs for President almost every election. :fro:
interesting story about him
he was the canidate that the republicans threw in last minute to run against obama in the \'04 Illinois senate race after obama supporters (those supporters being the chicago media) sued to have jack ryan\'s divorce records made public which have never been done before. the records were very embarrassing and kinda hot considering who he got divorced from and the repulicans removed him from the ticket and put in token black guy aka alan keyes
also one of my favorite scenes from Borat involves alan keyes
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interesting story about him
he was the canidate that the republicans threw in last minute to run against obama in the \'04 Illinois senate race after obama supporters (those supporters being the chicago media) sued to have jack ryan\'s divorce records made public which have never been done before. the records were very embarrassing and kinda hot considering who he got divorced from and the repulicans removed him from the ticket and put in token black guy aka alan keyes
also one of my favorite scenes from Borat involves alan keyes
Jerri Ryan is hot! They should never have made those records public though. If they hadn\'t Obama wouldn\'t even have been a Senator.
As far as Keyes goes, he leans so far to the right, even I don\'t like him.
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WTF? Babble much? I picture you frothing at the mouth while typing that incoherent rant.
I believe it is your VP nominee who has the gift of stupidity every time he opens his mouth.
Stop rehashing Obama campaign talking points and interject some free thought every now and then. It might help your case.
The fact is Obama has shady ties to a whole list of American rejects. Bill Ayers, Wright, Rezko... it goes on and on. These are not casual relationships either.
McCain went back to Washington to confer with his Republican peers in the House and Senate - it is his job as a Senator you know? Something Obama doesn\'t understand since he is never there and has never accomplished anything since being elected. McCain accomplished what he set out to do. Since you are quoting McCain - provide links. As far as the bail out bill - I disagree with him on it. I think he should have voted against it.
Those are not talking points..that is exactly what transpired....too lazy to provide a link but it was all over the news.....the point is that nobody truly thought that McCain was going to miss the debate or stop his campaign to help the economy,..everybody saw thru his weak rhetoric of just trying to gain attention and act like he\'s displaying leadership.
And whatever relationship Obama has had with those folks, have nothing to do with him whenever these same people get into trouble on their own, but yet you want to connect him in any way you can right?...even if he has nothing to do with it?.....that is desperation and you are reaching incredibly hard,..especially with the ayers scenario,...omg Obama hangs out with terrorists!!..:ohnoes:...seriously giga that argument will get no steam, and the only folks that\'ll probably believe that are those rednecks that think Obama is a muslim anyway.
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McCain was concerned with his current job and the most important event happening in recent time. That\'s not bullshit, it\'s smart.
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seriously giga that argument will get no steam, and the only folks that\'ll probably believe that are those rednecks that think Obama is a muslim anyway.
Obviously anyone who votes against Obama is a racist redneck. :rolleyes:
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That\'s not what he said. Read it again.
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i found giga
http://www.break.com/index/redneck-woman-rails-on-obama.html
i think the guy on the right was the inspiration for boomhauer
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Obviously anyone who votes against Obama is a racist redneck. :rolleyes:
Can you read? Because that isn\'t what he said.
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Seems CNN is taking an interest in Obama\'s relationship with Ayers. Guess they are rednecks too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ
Bottom line - Obama lied. Ayers isn\'t just some guy who lives in Obama\'s neighborhood. Obama can\'t be trusted.
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Seems CNN is taking an interest in Obama\'s relationship with Ayers. Guess they are rednecks too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ
Bottom line - Obama lied. Ayers isn\'t just some guy who lives in Obama\'s neighborhood. Obama can\'t be trusted.
Ohhhh...kkkkk...I still don\'t see an issue,....if they worked on projects to improve the school system, what is the problem?,..even at the end of the clip Anderson himself is questioning the guy by saying , just what exactly is McCain trying to prove?...all of Obama\'s interaction with the guy have been getting together and implementing school projects for the greater good of the community....again this story will not stick,...McCain is looking for something that isn\'t there.
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again this story will not stick,...McCain is looking for something that isn\'t there.
It already has. It questions his judgment because Ayers is unrepentant about what he did. Obama has an awful lot of good friends/mentors that hate this country doesn\'t he? You are the company that you keep is the saying isn\'t it? Keep your [COLOR="Sienna"]color[/COLOR] blinders on clips.
We can talk about ACORN if you like. I just read their offices in Nevada were raided today. In case you don\'t know Obama was a lawyer for ACORN. Still don\'t get it? ACORN = Voter Fraud. Still don\'t see anything wrong clips? Let me channel Obama... Ah yes... I can see it now... "That wasn\'t the ACORN I knew."
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Ohhhh...kkkkk...I still don\'t see an issue,....if they worked on projects to improve the school system, what is the problem?,..even at the end of the clip Anderson himself is questioning the guy by saying , just what exactly is McCain trying to prove?...all of Obama\'s interaction with the guy have been getting together and implementing school projects for the greater good of the community....again this story will not stick,...McCain is looking for something that isn\'t there.
Right, and this is why Chicago has one of the worst school systems in the country.
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Right, and this is why Chicago has one of the worst school systems in the country.
It takes effort from both the students and teachers and parents to make the educational system work,..you can implement the newest pc\'s and books in any school, but if the student, teacher or parent is not operating to the best of their ability, then the system will not work, but it comes down to the individual,...the elementary schools i went to had the oldest books you could find,...and i had honor roll up until around my junior year in high school....accountability is what matters.
But the overall point is that Obama worked with this guy to improve the situation of the school system which is a GOOD thing, yet you folks are trying desperatley to act like he hangs out with terrorists and act like he shares this guys views on why he did what he did years ago when Obama was 8 years old...:rolleyes:...and the thing that is scary is that giga is actually believing this craziness....
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Good leaders get things done. If the people of Chicago didn\'t respond to Obama\'s plan, what makes you think America will?
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Good point. It\'s a crap shoot, I suppose!
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I just came.
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Good leaders get things done. If the people of Chicago didn\'t respond to Obama\'s plan, what makes you think America will?
Chicago is a machine and has been since the 20\'s
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It takes effort from both the students and teachers and parents to make the educational system work,..you can implement the newest pc\'s and books in any school, but if the student, teacher or parent is not operating to the best of their ability, then the system will not work, but it comes down to the individual,...the elementary schools i went to had the oldest books you could find,...and i had honor roll up until around my junior year in high school....accountability is what matters.
But the overall point is that Obama worked with this guy to improve the situation of the school system which is a GOOD thing, yet you folks are trying desperatley to act like he hangs out with terrorists and act like he shares this guys views on why he did what he did years ago when Obama was 8 years old...:rolleyes:...and the thing that is scary is that giga is actually believing this craziness....
When the cops do their job and stop all that gangbanging, maybe pc\'s wont get stolen and teachers/students wont be afraid to come to school.
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when speaking about members of a gang is best to remember that gangbanger the adjective is waaaay different than gangbanging the verb
or i could just be sick minded
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"I\'m here for the gangbang"
What movie was that????
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Best post in the thread so far.
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"I\'m here for the gangbang"
What movie was that????
Old school.
And that Palin animated gif (so 90\'s, btw) makes me jerk it. No joke. I\'m jerking it as I type this.
FUck, I just squirted on my akjtbeyboard.
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And lookie here...looks like we need to start questioning this chic\'s judgement...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/palin.investigation/index.html
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And lookie here...looks like we need to start questioning this chic\'s judgement...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/palin.investigation/index.html
Oh please. This is a partisan witch hunt. Even the panel said it "wasn\'t the only factor". Lets talk more about ACORN, Ayers and Wright. Those are more legitimate than this trash.
"Ahead of Friday\'s hearing, Palin supporters wearing clown costumes and carrying balloons denounced the investigation as a "kangaroo court" and a "three-ring circus" led by supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
The state senator managing the investigation, Sen. Hollis French, fueled those complaints with a September 2 interview in which he warned the inquiry could yield an "October Surprise" for the GOP."
and...
"I find that, although Walt Monegan\'s refusal to fire trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Director of Public Sagety.[SIZE="6"][COLOR="Yellow"] In spite of that, Governor Palin\'s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads."[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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Oh please. This is a partisan witch hunt. Even the panel said it "wasn\'t the only factor". Lets talk more about ACORN, Ayers and Wright. Those are more legitimate than this trash.
"Ahead of Friday\'s hearing, Palin supporters wearing clown costumes and carrying balloons denounced the investigation as a "kangaroo court" and a "three-ring circus" led by supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
The state senator managing the investigation, Sen. Hollis French, fueled those complaints with a September 2 interview in which he warned the inquiry could yield an "October Surprise" for the GOP."
and...
"I find that, although Walt Monegan\'s refusal to fire trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Director of Public Sagety.[SIZE="6"][COLOR="Yellow"] In spite of that, Governor Palin\'s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads."[/COLOR][/SIZE]
Uhm...calm down...take a breath...release and repeat...i never thought this was a big deal anyway, but she was acting like she had something to hide, and the fact remains that part of the reason she fired him was because of her dislike of that state trooper. And i answered the Acorn issue in another thread and wright is already a non-issue and a closed chapter. The market is at it\'s lowest level in years and yet McCain acts like these gossip ad issues are more important than the economy....he\'s becoming more and more irrelevant and his whole campaign has lost all sense of integrity and is the joke of this presidential race.
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Oh please. This is a partisan witch hunt. Even the panel said it "wasn\'t the only factor". Lets talk more about ACORN, Ayers and Wright. Those are more legitimate than this trash.
"Ahead of Friday\'s hearing, Palin supporters wearing clown costumes and carrying balloons denounced the investigation as a "kangaroo court" and a "three-ring circus" led by supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
The state senator managing the investigation, Sen. Hollis French, fueled those complaints with a September 2 interview in which he warned the inquiry could yield an "October Surprise" for the GOP."
and...
"I find that, although Walt Monegan\'s refusal to fire trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Director of Public Sagety.[SIZE="6"][COLOR="Yellow"] In spite of that, Governor Palin\'s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads."[/COLOR][/SIZE]
YOu know what I got out of that?
"Let\'s talk about my stuff, because I want to avoid talking about what the Republicans are guilty of, so yea, let\'s just ignore that."
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YOu know what I got out of that?
"Let\'s talk about my stuff, because I want to avoid talking about what the Republicans are guilty of, so yea, let\'s just ignore that."
No that would be the Dems. Whenever a Democrat gets in trouble they blame it on everyone except themselves. See Barney "the FAG" Frank.
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No that would be the Dems. Whenever a Democrat gets in trouble they blame it on everyone except themselves. See Barney "the FAG" Frank.
Mr Republican....It is very dangerous to go appointing "FAG" to anyone after the last 9 years for the elephants.
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Mr Republican....It is very dangerous to go appointing "FAG" to anyone after the last 9 years for the elephants.
So Barney isn\'t gay? Only Dems would reelect a guy who ran a male prostitution ring out of his house. Now he blows oversight on FMFM and I bet the sheep reelect him again. If this were the Republican we would get rid of them on either item.
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So Barney isn\'t gay? Only Dems would reelect a guy who ran a male prostitution ring out of his house. Now he blows oversight on FMFM and I bet the sheep reelect him again. If this were the Republican we would get rid of them on either item.
I liked how you dodged my statement.
Just to humor you and be SOMEWHAT relevant to a quote...... Do not act like Dems are the only ones that cannot own up to their mistakes and shortsightedness.
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I liked how you dodged my statement.
Just to humor you and be SOMEWHAT relevant to a quote...... Do not act like Dems are the only ones that cannot own up to their mistakes and shortsightedness.
Republicans police their own and rather quickly. The Dems? They reelect people who are under investigation by the FBI and caught red handed. Corruption is ignored - google William J. Jefferson (D) LA.
Barney Frank should be run out of Washington by his own party...
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McCain has repeatedly mentioned that five former secretaries of state support his campaign. Now I guess you can cross one of those off because Larry Eagleburger stated yesterday that Palin is not qualified to take over the Presidency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQm94JUJnUE
Question: "You mentioned, obviously experience... are you entirely comfortable with Sarah Palin as Vice President of the United States; that she would be ready to take over in a crisis, if she should terribly be called upon to do so?"
Eagleburger: "That\'s a very good question. I\'m being facetious here. Look, I don\'t... of course not. I don\'t think at the moment she is prepared to take over the brains of the presidency."
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McCain has repeatedly mentioned that five former secretaries of state support his campaign. Now I guess you can cross one of those off because Larry Eagleburger stated yesterday that Palin is not qualified to take over the Presidency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQm94JUJnUE
Lets get right to the point Core. You didn\'t quote the rest of what he said in that there have been many VP\'s that have lacked experience. Also why do you even care about this? You aren\'t voting for McCain and never were. Palin appeals to the base - that is her purpose and she fills it well.
Getting a little worried perhaps?
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Lets get right to the point Core. You didn\'t quote the rest of what he said in that there have been many VP\'s that have lacked experience. Also why do you even care about this? You aren\'t voting for McCain and never were. Palin appeals to the base - that is her purpose and she fills it well.
Getting a little worried perhaps?
OK, you\'re right that was not a complete quotation. Here is the complete text:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96329379
And what about the foreign policy credentials of McCain\'s running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin? They are not great, nor do they make everyone comfortable, Eagleburger tells NPR. "I don\'t think at the moment she is prepared to take over the reins of the presidency," he says. "I can name for you any number of other vice presidents who were not particularly up to it either. So, the question, I think, is — can she learn and would she be tough enough under the circumstances if she were asked to become president?"
"Give her some time in the office and I think the answer would be — she will be adequate. I can\'t say that she would be a genius in the job," he adds.
A glowing endorsement, eh? I don\'t know why this issue is not important to you. All you care about is getting McCain elected, and you choose not to think about Palin as a president. That is very short sighted.
BTW, "worried?" :laughing:
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OK, you\'re right that was not a complete quotation. Here is the complete text:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96329379
A glowing endorsement, eh? I don\'t know why this issue is not important to you. All you care about is getting McCain elected, and you choose not to think about Palin as a president. That is very short sighted.
BTW, "worried?" :laughing:
And you are voting for a guy who wouldn\'t even pass a background check for the FBI.
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And you are voting for a guy who wouldn\'t even pass a background check for the FBI.
I don\'t know what you\'re talking about. If you want to make an argument, post an explanation of the argument and a link to your evidence. This kind of short hand reference to whatever happens to be the most recent kooky conservative fever dream does not persuade any rational observers.
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I don\'t know what you\'re talking about. If you want to make an argument, post an explanation of the argument and a link to your evidence. This kind of short hand reference to whatever happens to be the most recent kooky conservative fever dream does not persuade any rational observers.
The fact is Obama would not pass a background check to be in the FBI. His associations would automatically make him fail. Ayers, Wright and Rezko would prohibit him to have any position with security clearance.
I am sorry you don\'t like the facts.
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And you are voting for a guy who wouldn\'t even pass a background check for the FBI.
Yep. Crazy times we live in!
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The fact is Obama would not pass a background check to be in the FBI. His associations would automatically make him fail. Ayers, Wright and Rezko would prohibit him to have any position with security clearance.
I am sorry you don\'t like the facts.
It\'s a great thing you work the FBI and can tell us these amazing facts with certainty.
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*tssk*...*tssk*...seems like Palin was a headache for some in the McCain campaign and maybe a bit of a drama queen...and she was incredibily weak on foreign and world issues....from your friends and mine at FOX news...:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3dkiWncf2k&feature=related
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I hope she is the new face of the GOP and runs in 2012... because Palin is a JOKE.
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What is scary is the fact that they knew she wasn\'t qualified to be prez, yet they tried to tell the american public that she was. Imagine if McCain did win and god forbid something happened to him before he even took office...then we would\'ve had..*gasp* president Palin?..:ohnoes:
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She\'s no less qualified than Obama.
She has executive experience. The conservatives love her.
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Shall I lock this thread?
Can\'t we just be done talking about her? :)
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She\'s no less qualified than Obama.
She has executive experience. The conservatives love her.
If you pit Obama against her in a debate on the issues, he\'ll destroy her..end of story...
Shall I lock this thread?
Can\'t we just be done talking about her?
I thought her story was over, but the conservatives themselves keep givin\' us material for us to talk about...:D, but you\'re the boss, if you want to shut it down so be it...:)...just do it before kennedy responds, so i can have the last word..bwahaha!!..:stirthepot:
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If you pit Obama against her in a debate on the issues, he\'ll destroy her..end of story...
I\'m not talking about public speaking, public speaking is not the only thing that qualifies someone for President. I\'m talking about executive experience.
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I was just kidding. I think threads should be locked very very rarely.
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I\'m not talking about public speaking, public speaking is not the only thing that qualifies someone for President. I\'m talking about executive experience.
But we\'re talking about the presidency here...and you have to know more than just executive experience,...so what better way than to have both of them sit down to see where their knowledge level is on the issues? So my argument stands, he\'ll crush her on the issues,..Obama has proven that he could even go toe to toe with McCain on foreign policy issues, and he\'s also showed that he\'s no slouch on the economic front either.
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Does this mean Palin won\'t be on tv anymore? Damn.
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Clips - The presidency, believe it or not, is an executive position. Think of governors as Presidents of each states.
Eiksirf - they did a Rasmussen poll, she\'s the leading candidate for the 2012 election. So you\'re more or less just getting a break.
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Wow you think Palin might run? I can\'t stand her as a politician, I just like to see her on tv. Experience or not, I don\'t like a lot of the strict Republican values stuff.
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You don\'t, but the GOP trotted out a moderate republican this year and it blew up in their face. It\'s VERY early, but they want her in 2012. Huckabee and Romney also had their names thrown out there.
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My God.....I hope Palin does not run. Republicans have to realize that while she might fly through the primaries she would get KILLED in the general election. She didn\'t even know Africa was a continent or who was in NAFTA for God sakes! (according to FOX news no less) She has little to no knowledge of international affairs and is so religious it makes Bush look like an athiest. This lady is the one reason why I couldn\'t vote for McCain.
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SO be thankful the pitbull was exposed to her barking being worse than her bite.
She has been tagged and released back into the wild!
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My God.....I hope Palin does not run. Republicans have to realize that while she might fly through the primaries she would get KILLED in the general election. She didn\'t even know Africa was a continent or who was in NAFTA for God sakes! (according to FOX news no less) She has little to no knowledge of international affairs and is so religious it makes Bush look like an athiest. This lady is the one reason why I couldn\'t vote for McCain.
Let\'s be fair both sides made honest mistakes when they spoke.
Obama thought there were 57 states. Obviously he knows that\'s not true, but he said it by accident.
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Kennedy, you need to define what you mean by "executive position." It\'s not enough just to throw that word around like it\'s self-explanatory.
I would like to know what SPECIFIC things Sarah Palin did as governor of Alaska that make more qualified to be president than someone else who wasn\'t governor of something or president of something.
I think about the qualities that are needed by a great leader, and they are not limited to people who have held a title as the highest office of something-or-other.
To me, great leaders need to inspire confidence. They need to have a far-reaching vision that guides their decision making beyond the current problem at hand. An outstanding leader should be highly intelligent, reflective, and have a wide scope of knowledge. They need to be masters of personal communication and ultimately masters of negotiation. To me, being a skilled negotiator and understanding the varying perspectives of others is the cornerstone of great leadership.
There have been many books written on this subject, but I would summarize by saying that I think Sarah Palin is lacking in many of these key requirements. I don\'t think the pat answer "she had an executive position" is sufficient to prop her up as more qualified for the most important job on the planet.
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The word executive sounds impressive, so the Republicans latched onto it. But, it refers to the branch of government, the executive branch. The other two are the legislative and judicial branches, least that\'s how I remember it from an old social studies class.
Governors and presidents and vice presidents are all in the executive branch. The idea was that this is important when compared to the experience other candidates gain while serving for the legislative branch of the Senate.
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I think its important, but not the end-all be-all of qualifications.
Executive experience is the best experience to prepare you for the Presidency, because it entails governing cities/states and dealing with legislation, whereas the legislative branch tends to stay within themselves and not really govern. Not saying its a bad thing, but just my opinion.
Whether or not she\'s more qualified that Obama is a moot point, Obama is the President-Elect, and Palin is back to Alaska governor.
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is that even an arguement? that palin could be more qualified than obama?
mccain vs obama is an arguement..palin vs mccain/obama/almost all of the candidates is not
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is that even an arguement? that palin could be more qualified than obama?
mccain vs obama is an arguement..palin vs mccain/obama/almost all of the candidates is not
Why do you say that? She\'s been in politics since the 90\'s.
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Hmmm....will she be the leader for the GOP in 2012?...*prays that she is*...:D
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/13/bash.palin.star.cnn?iref=videosearch
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Hmmm....will she be the leader for the GOP in 2012?...*prays that she is*...:D
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/13/bash.palin.star.cnn?iref=videosearch
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi36.tinypic.com%2F2j2de77.jpg&hash=7412b615d1ad01062eb5e7e42059a919c9f3be8c)
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If Obama\'s first term is a bust it will be Palin stepping into the White House in 2012.
Remember, it took Jimmy Carter to get us Ronald Reagan, I\'m praying the same happens in 2012.
Just because you don\'t like her doesn\'t mean the conservative base doesn\'t like her. The conservatives loved her more than McCain.
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The conservative base gave us Iraq and the current state of affairs.
FUCK THE CONSERVATIVE BASE YOU FUCKING EVIL DEMONS
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If Obama\'s first term is a bust it will be Palin stepping into the White House in 2012.
Remember, it took Jimmy Carter to get us Ronald Reagan, I\'m praying the same happens in 2012.
Just because you don\'t like her doesn\'t mean the conservative base doesn\'t like her. The conservatives loved her more than McCain.
Last i checked you need more than the conservative base to get you elected. She\'s been all over the news lately and i\'ve seen her stump at that govenors meeting in florida...she\'s still annoying as ever and she has a loong way to go before the country even thinks she\'s respectable vp candidate, let alone a presidential candidate....I only see Romney at this point as being one of the major players in 2012.
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Reason Number 1: Too Many Better Candidates
The dust hasn’t even settled from the 2008 contest, and Republicans are already salivating over who the next GOP presidential nominee will be. To be sure, Palin’s name is among those that are being floated as possible candidates, along with former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, former Speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich, Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, and South Dakota Senator John Thune. But does it really stand out?
Experience-wise, every single one of those candidates puts Palin to shame. Additionally, each of those candidate brings far more expertise to the table than Palin. And maybe that will change over the next four years. But in the meantime, Romney is seen by many as an expert on economic issues by virtue of his successful construction (and later resuscitation) of Bain Capital, and given current economic concerns, that could be a big arrow in his quiver. Newt Gingrich and Tim Pawlenty are probably the truest conservatives of the bunch, and in fact would probably be more solidly aligned with the conservative base than any GOP candidate since George H.W. Bush was the nominee as the incumbent president back in 1992. Candidates like Jindal and Thune are largely considered by many to be the future of the Republican Party. Palin would have a difficult time distinguishing herself from the breadth of possibility in that field.
Reason Number 2: The Primary Process Has A Heavy Debate Emphasis
The 2008 presidential election season was unprecedented in the visibility of candidates. En route to the nomination, John McCain participated in 17 debates in the primary race alone. Few will argue with the assertion that Sarah Palin is at her worst in (a) debates, and (b) one-on-one interviews. It was a constant worry of the McCain campaign, and a primary reason behind the fact that Palin only debated Democratic vice-presidential nominee (and now Vice President-elect) Joe Biden one time. On that occasion, expectations going into the forum were lowered to a point that essentially credited Palin with an incredible performance as long as she managed to avoid a catastrophic failure.
She wouldn’t have that benefit if she were on the stage with Romney (a prolific debater), Gingrich, Jindal, Thune, or Pawlenty, to say nothing of any other GOP candidates who might jump in the race.
Reason Number 3: The GOP Favors Candidates Who’ve Sought the Presidency Before
With the exception of George W. Bush, Republicans tend to favor candidates who’ve sought the nomination before. John McCain (’08), Bob Dole (‘96), George H.W. Bush (‘92, ‘88), Ronald Reagan (‘80, ‘84), Richard Nixon (‘72, ‘68), Barry Goldwater (‘64)- all of them sought the GOP nomination at least one time before eventually winning it (Gerald Ford is absent from the list, because he was the incumbent president and nominee in ‘76 without ever actually having been elected president in the first place). That kind of news bodes well for a candidate like Mitt Romney, who made a substantial impact in 2008, but fell short.
Reason Number 4: Barack Obama Already Defeated Sarah Palin
Palin participated in a Republican ticket that got handed its worst electoral beating since 1964. On the safe assumption that Barack Obama would seek a second term in 2012 2008, she’d be facing the same guy who demolished her ticket the first time around.
Moreover, Obama didn’t just beat McCain-Palin in swing states. He didn’t even just beat them in states that are only moderately Republican. He beat them in GOP strongholds like North Carolina and Virginia. Palin was brought in as McCain’s running mate not only to make an offensive run at women, but also to shore up conservative and rural support. She couldn’t do it. It’s hard to see how she’d have any better luck on her own four years from now.
Reason Number 5: Palin Has Enough Baggage
Between Troopergate, her use of campaign funds for a pricey shopping spree, her former membership in an Alaskan separatist group, and her history of handing out high-paying government patronage jobs to her girlfriends from high school and college, Palin had a lot weighing her down in the 2008 race before her qualifications were even addressed. Romney’s biggest problem was that he began as a much more liberal politician than he is now. But that pales in comparison to Palin’s ethically questionable behavior. Gingrich had an extramarital affair, but he admitted that years ago, so it’s not really a newsworthy issue anymore. And Jindal, Pawlenty, and Thune are clean…for now anyway. Palin will have a tough time getting voters to look past her problems, particularly when there are other more qualified candidates to choose from who don’t have that kind of baggage.
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It’s not to say that Sarah Palin will never have a shot at the White House. In fact, if she were to run for reelection as Governor of Alaska in 2010, and Alaska’s Senate seat in 2014 (whether it’s Ted Stevens or Mark Begich or someone else in that seat), she might have a decent shot by 2016. But 2012 is a lost cause. And if Democrats know what’s good for them, they’ll hope Palin pulls the trigger on her own presidential bid sooner rather than later.
http://www.therealright.com/blog/content/id_37924/title_5-Reasons-Sarah-Palin-Would-Lose-a-2012-Presidential-Bid/
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Mr. Kennedy, you are living in FantasyLand(tm) if you think Sarah Palin will ever become President of the United States except by accident. Her one opportunity for an accidental succession is gone.
I also don\'t understand why you claim to support her. I thought you were smarter than that.