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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxkrm9uEJk
[clips]true dat[/clips]
Very well articulated actually.
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Because Hollywood Joe Schmo knows any more than anyone else about politics. Damon isn\'t in politics nor has he ever sat in an office. His opinion is just as valid as yours or mine. That\'s like me telling someone how to fix a car when all I know how to do is change my oil and air filter.
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So he doesn\'t know much about Palin and therefore shouldn\'t be VP?
Matt, please die.
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she\'s a creationist, or in the least doesn\'t object to the very idea. That\'s enough for me to warrant her incapable. I think Damon makes a very valid point.
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He has a good point, sure. I wonder what names Giga would think to call him if he aired those opinions here instead of on YouTube.
Besides, Palin was EXECUTIVE, so it doesn\'t really matter if she\'s got her head in the sand. Having one\'s head in the sand is apparently what makes a good executive anyway. Nonetheless, we can\'t deny that the word executive just sounds so friggin important when profiling a person. I\'d go so far as to say that she\'s very executive. Executive.
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So he doesn\'t know much about Palin and therefore shouldn\'t be VP?
Matt, please die.
He\'s simply stating concerns that any rational thinking voter should have about Sarah Palin becoming president. Do you have no concerns whatsoever? If so, I seriously question your rationality.
Care to refute anything he said?
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He\'s simply stating concerns that any rational thinking voter should have about Sarah Palin becoming president. Do you have no concerns whatsoever? If so, I seriously question your rationality.
Care to refute anything he said?
Just about every elected leader who happened to be a devout Christian knew where to draw the line between religion and politics. I doubt dinosaurs will have any impact on her political stance. I\'m a religious person. I know dinosaurs were around 65million yrs ago. I know humans breeded with neanderthals. I know the Earth is around 4 billion years old.
You know what? A LOT of religious people think like this.
You may want to put on a tin foil hat if you think Palin might turn you into a religious zealot.
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So he doesn\'t know much about Palin and therefore shouldn\'t be VP?
He does make one really really good point. The idea of something happening to John McCain and having President Palin have to go up against someone like Vladimir Putin.
It is insane to think that this woman has the skills to play ball with someone like that. I\'m not even American, but that doesn\'t matter because the choice that gets made in November touches the entire world and EVERYONE is gonna have an opinion. Especially after watching the completely stupid choice Americans managed to make twice in the past 8 years.
I wanted Clinton for president and now that she is out the only person I see qualified for the job is indeed John McCain. But his choice of VP is fucking dumb. It really is a shame that McCain had to pick Palin simply to get votes (if you think he picked her for any other reason, thats delusional thinking) and that he couldn\'t pick someone more suited for the job, someone more reliable.
Actors giving advice on politics is pretty stupid. As if Mr Ripley here is a political expert or something. But as I said, he does make a good point in saying Palin as a President and having to deal with men like Putin really is truly a scary thought.
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Obama isn\'t much better.
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No he isn\'t, and I don\'t think Obama vs Putin is a much better scenario.
I really do think McCain is the man for the job...but god dammit I wish he was just a decade younger. Cause if he does get elected and something happens to him and all of a sudden Sara Palin is the president...well I just don\'t see America moving forward as a country with that woman.
and I don\'t care if I sound like a pussy. The whole thing with Russia lately has been scary. They seem itching for a reason to fight with America and the leader of the most powerful nation in the world has to be ready to deal with this sleeping giant. I don\'t think Palin is that leader. The only 2 dudes I like in this election is Biden and McCain. Don\'t care much for Obama and Palin.
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She\'s actually quite on the path as John McCain. She\'s becoming a moderate Repub. At least this article seems to allude to that. Perhaps leaning more towards the Dems agenda on taxing the oil companies.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-11-palin-cover_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
ANCHORAGE — Weeks after taking office as Alaska\'s governor in December 2006, Sarah Palin vetoed a bill that sought to ban benefits for the same-sex partners of state workers. It was unconstitutional, she said.
This year, she rebuffed religious conservatives who wanted her to add two abortion restriction measures to a special legislative session on oil and gas policy, even though she supported the bills. Former aide Larry Persily said she didn\'t want to risk offending Democrats, whose votes she needed on energy legislation.
POLITICS BLOG: Palin interview
POLL: Huge effect of Palin pick cuts both ways
INTERVIEW: Palin says she is \'wired\' to be VP
Since Republican presidential candidate John McCain picked Palin as his running mate, much attention has been focused on her deeply conservative social views — including her opposition to abortion even in cases of rape and incest and her attendance at a church that promotes the "transformation" of homosexuals through prayer.
But in her 21 months as governor, Palin has taken few steps to advance culturally conservative causes. Instead, after she knocked off an incumbent amid an influence-peddling scandal linked to the oil industry, Palin pursued a populist agenda that toughened ethics rules and raised taxes on oil and gas companies.
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He has a good point, sure. I wonder what names Giga would think to call him if he aired those opinions here instead of on YouTube.
Besides, Palin was EXECUTIVE, so it doesn\'t really matter if she\'s got her head in the sand. Having one\'s head in the sand is apparently what makes a good executive anyway. Nonetheless, we can\'t deny that the word executive just sounds so friggin important when profiling a person. I\'d go so far as to say that she\'s very executive. Executive.
That Damon clip is hilarious. "I wanna know if she believes in dinosaurs..." He sounds like a raving lunatic. Great stuff. My advice - stick to acting Matt, no one cares what you think. MATTT DAAAAAMON!!!!
Core, I question yours and others logic by calling her experience into question when 0bama has less experience. You lefties are such hypocrites.
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That Damon clip is hilarious. "I wanna know if she believes in dinosaurs..." He sounds like a raving lunatic. Great stuff. My advice - stick to acting Matt, no one cares what you think. MATTT DAAAAAMON!!!!
Core, I question yours and others logic by calling her experience into question when 0bama has less experience. You lefties are such hypocrites.
he said he wants to know if she think dinosaurs were alive 4000 years ago. because if she believes that and i agree with him he doesnt want he as vice president
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he said he wants to know if she think dinosaurs were alive 4000 years ago. because if she believes that and i agree with him he doesnt want he as vice president
So having faith and being a Christian is bad eh? Not that she believes in Creationism, but you lefties need to get over this fear of Christianity and the fact that a candidate does have faith.
Speaking of which, ABC tried to set Palin up over a "God" quote she gave, when she was quoting Lincoln. Doh - talk about a backfire.
Damon sounds like a raving lunatic in that video - typical Hollywierd idiot. Like I said, he should stick to acting and keep his misinformed and slanted comments on politics to himself.
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No he isn\'t, and I don\'t think Obama vs Putin is a much better scenario.
I really do think McCain is the man for the job...but god dammit I wish he was just a decade younger. Cause if he does get elected and something happens to him and all of a sudden Sara Palin is the president...well I just don\'t see America moving forward as a country with that woman.
and I don\'t care if I sound like a pussy. The whole thing with Russia lately has been scary. They seem itching for a reason to fight with America and the leader of the most powerful nation in the world has to be ready to deal with this sleeping giant. I don\'t think Palin is that leader. The only 2 dudes I like in this election is Biden and McCain. Don\'t care much for Obama and Palin.
Yeah Biden would be great. :rofl:
Biden living up to his gaffe-prone reputation
Just this week, he mused that Senator Barack Obama might have been better off with Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.
"Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America," Biden said Wednesday in Nashua, New Hampshire. "Quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me."
Earlier in the week, in Columbia, Missouri, Biden urged a paraplegic state official to stand up to be recognized.
"Chuck, stand up, let the people see you," Biden shouted to State Senator Chuck Graham, before realizing, to his horror, that Graham uses a wheelchair. "Oh, God love ya," Biden said. "What am I talking about?"
Yeah we want this dope to negotiate with Putin. He has no self confidence and he is dumb.
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That Damon clip is hilarious. "I wanna know if she believes in dinosaurs..." He sounds like a raving lunatic. Great stuff. My advice - stick to acting Matt, no one cares what you think. MATTT DAAAAAMON!!!!
Core, I question yours and others logic by calling her experience into question when 0bama has less experience. You lefties are such hypocrites.
Matt did have some valid points,..he did start to go a bit off the deep end there a bit...:p...i was with him until he started with the dinosaur statement...:p...and giga i think you conservatives are hypocrites...wasn\'t it MCain who blasted Obama for experience?...then he turms around and pics this chick?...everybody knows he picked her clearly for those hillary women voters...he clearly wasn\'t thinking "country first" when he picked her.
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It\'s a fine line the Dems are treading on when it comes to experience. They keep criticize Palin too much for lack of experience, Palin will then reply with a picture of Obama and ask "Are you talking about him?" :laughing:
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Looks like Palin doesn\'t even know what the bush doctrine is...dude had to explain it to her...and you guys think she\'s ready to be prez?..:laughing:...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuPHhjRNjFA
And gman the difference with Obama is that 18 million voted for him regardless of his experience....that alone speaks volumes...
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So having faith and being a Christian is bad eh? Not that she believes in Creationism, but you lefties need to get over this fear of Christianity and the fact that a candidate does have faith.
Speaking of which, ABC tried to set Palin up over a "God" quote she gave, when she was quoting Lincoln. Doh - talk about a backfire.
Damon sounds like a raving lunatic in that video - typical Hollywierd idiot. Like I said, he should stick to acting and keep his misinformed and slanted comments on politics to himself.
Just drop the bullshit about liberals hating Christians. Liberals can be Christians too. Liberals like myself can believe in God. This has nothing to do with that.
The question is does Sarah Palin believe in SCIENCE? After 8 years of republican management by people who don\'t believe in science, didn\'t support funding of scientific research, and didn\'t accept the consensus of scientific knowledge on matters of importance to our future survival, this is a very important question. I know so little about Palin that I can\'t suggest an answer. However, the question MUST be asked because we need leadership that supports scientific inquiry.
BTW, Matt Damon did not sound like a "raving lunatic." He was speaking in a very calm normal tone of voice. I don\'t know what weird republican filters you are wearing, but you should take them off once in a while.
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So having faith and being a Christian is bad eh? Not that she believes in Creationism, but you lefties need to get over this fear of Christianity and the fact that a candidate does have faith.
Speaking of which, ABC tried to set Palin up over a "God" quote she gave, when she was quoting Lincoln. Doh - talk about a backfire.
Damon sounds like a raving lunatic in that video - typical Hollywierd idiot. Like I said, he should stick to acting and keep his misinformed and slanted comments on politics to himself.
wow suddenly im a lefty cause i think someone who believes dinosaurs lived 4000 years ago is an idiot
youre just as diluted as clips i think both of you should stop with you half truths and lies cause you both sound retarded
your probably going to call me a terrorist if i say maybe its time we pull out of iraq too huh?
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wow suddenly im a lefty cause i think someone who believes dinosaurs lived 4000 years ago is an idiot
youre just as diluted as clips i think both of you should stop with you half truths and lies cause you both sound retarded
your probably going to call me a terrorist if i say maybe its time we pull out of iraq too huh?
Hey..hey..i resent that...keep my name outta yer mouth....if you want me to help you shut down that lunatic giga i\'m all for it...but don\'t put me in the same category as that crazy conservative...;)
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Looks like Palin doesn\'t even know what the bush doctrine is...dude had to explain it to her...and you guys think she\'s ready to be prez?..:laughing:...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuPHhjRNjFA
And gman the difference with Obama is that 18 million voted for him regardless of his experience....that alone speaks volumes...
The Bush doctrine has been changed so many times, I bet even the Bush people would flunk a pop quiz on it.
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The Bush doctrine has been changed so many times, I bet even the Bush people would flunk a pop quiz on it.
Exactly, there is no "Bush Doctrine". It some conspiracy theory libs like to throw out every now and then.
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she comes off really fake to me. "Charlie?...". sounds like every sentence should end with, "...and that\'s why you should vote for me"
and her "lets kill all the terrorist" ideal..really? they really still think that\'s a rational idea?
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Just drop the bullshit about liberals hating Christians. Liberals can be Christians too. Liberals like myself can believe in God. This has nothing to do with that.
The question is does Sarah Palin believe in SCIENCE? After 8 years of republican management by people who don\'t believe in science, didn\'t support funding of scientific research, and didn\'t accept the consensus of scientific knowledge on matters of importance to our future survival, this is a very important question. I know so little about Palin that I can\'t suggest an answer. However, the question MUST be asked because we need leadership that supports scientific inquiry.
BTW, Matt Damon did not sound like a "raving lunatic." He was speaking in a very calm normal tone of voice. I don\'t know what weird republican filters you are wearing, but you should take them off once in a while.
And why wouldn\'t she support science? Because she is a Christian and is pro-life? Really, get a grip. Matt Damon is an idiot - who gives a shit what he thinks or says. He did sound like a typical libtard when he went off on a tangent about Dinosaurs. He also sounded like the biggest hypocrite when he started talking about "not knowing" someone. Substitute the name 0bama in for Palin and see how ridiculous it sounds.
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And why wouldn\'t she support science? Because she is a Christian and is pro-life? Really, get a grip. Matt Damon is an idiot - who gives a shit what he thinks or says. He did sound like a typical libtard when he went off on a tangent about Dinosaurs. He also sounded like the biggest hypocrite when he started talking about "not knowing" someone. Substitute the name 0bama in for Palin and see how ridiculous it sounds.
I think they\'re purposely seeing all Christians as blinded and dinosaur believers. I\'ve already stated that plenty of Christian draw the line between science and the Bible. In the article I posted, it certainly seems that way for Palin. She may be a conservative, but her actions have been that of a moderate Republican.
I doubt she believes Jesus had a pet dinosaur.
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I doubt she believes Jesus had a pet dinosaur.
that would be awesome if jesus had a pet dinosaur
i had a pet velociraptor in warcraft his name was pillkington
extra cool points to you if you know why thats funny
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And why wouldn\'t she support science? Because she is a Christian and is pro-life? Really, get a grip.
During the Alaska Governor\'s race in 2006, Palin was the only candidate to propose teaching creationism in Alaska schools. I think this calls into question her acceptance of scientific facts.
"Teach both. You know, don\'t be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it\'s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."
http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html (http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html)
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During the Alaska Governor\'s race in 2006, Palin was the only candidate to propose teaching creationism in Alaska schools. I think this calls into question her acceptance of scientific facts.
http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html (http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html)
And the problem with that is what? Oh thats right, Christianity is badddddd.
Nothing wrong with teaching both views at all.
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we should also teach about the unicorn ranch in montana
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And the problem with that is what? Oh thats right, Christianity is badddddd.
Nothing wrong with teaching both views at all.
Unless one of them has been proven false. Do you want your children to go to a school where the teacher provides false information on an equal footing with scientifically verifiable information?
Perhaps you\'d prefer that the teacher says "Some people on the other hand believe this... but we know it\'s not true... what do you think?" Wouldn\'t that be somewhat disrespectful of Christianity?
Creationism must be simply omitted from public school curicculum. That is the only way to handle it tactfully.
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Looks like Palin doesn\'t even know what the bush doctrine is...dude had to explain it to her...and you guys think she\'s ready to be prez?..:laughing:...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuPHhjRNjFA
And gman the difference with Obama is that 18 million voted for him regardless of his experience....that alone speaks volumes...
There is really no such thing as a BUSH DOCTRINE.. Would you have known what he was talking about?
I honestly don\'t give a shit if she knows any heads of state. As long as she is a bulldog in the states I am happy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BU91ALzOak
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Can we please drop this bullshit? No one is saying "having faith" is a bad thing, but I certainly don\'t want my VP to be someone who doesn\'t believe in science and simple facts (aka when the dinosaurs walked the fucking earth). This whole bullshit about "faith is bad", is just your way to spin the whole thing. Then again, I wouldn\'t elect any one who did not support stem cell research, so call me a weirdo. That\'s an important topic to me.
I like the fact that some of you actually believe Palin was selected for any other reason than she is a hot older mother. McCain himself said in a speech that a Governor or Mayor was simply not ready to be in charge or deal with international problems. ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/mccain-last-year-mayors-a_n_125944.html) . But what did he select? A Governor with NO INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE. A former mayor of an extremely small town. What great experience does she have that entitles her to this? None. And had she not been selected by McCain, no one would care about her still. I look at it this way, the VP should be someone who could be elected for President themselves. Obama has that shot, Biden has that shot, McCain has that shot, fuck, Clinton would of had that shot. Would Palin? Not a chance in hell. Why? Because she hasn\'t done anything and doesn\'t have the needed experience to take over if something does happen.
I don\'t care who you vote for . I don\'t think any of them are truly qualified, but please dig your head out of the sand. Palin is a clueless bimbo who doesn\'t need to be near the Oval Office.
The best part tho\'? This goes for the Demos / Repubs both. No matter who would of been selected, this outcome would of been the same. Just on a different scale. The Repubs would support the choice and the Democrats would be trying to dismantle it. And vice versa. You\'re just all to blind to see past your loyality to a select party.
And as for Matt Damon. Get over it. He has the right to voice his opinion. The only difference is, people (no matter how few) may listen to his. He also has the ability to be on TV or YouTube and do this. Where as if you submit a video, well, no one will give a flying rats ass. Kind of like you posting on this message board.
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Biden had a shot for president? Seriously? Did he get any votes?
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Biden had a shot for president? Seriously? Did he get any votes?
You missed the point.
The point was people could vote for him. He has experience. People know him. What does Palin have? Nothing.
Maybe I should of phrased it better.
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The Bush doctrine has been changed so many times, I bet even the Bush people would flunk a pop quiz on it
Exactly, there is no "Bush Doctrine". It some conspiracy theory libs like to throw out every now and then.
Excuses, excuses,...if this chic,..wants to be in a position to be vp,...she should know this,...i expect somebody like myself not to know this info, but she should,..she was totally lost in that question...and her overall view over foreign policy is severly lacking......no way this chick is ready to take over if McCain croaks...heh take that teleprompter away from her and just give this chic a blond wig!!!...:D
You missed the point.
The point was people could vote for him. He has experience. People know him. What does Palin have? Nothing.
Maybe I should of phrased it better.
This man speaks tha truth...:fro:
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You missed the point.
The point was people could vote for him. He has experience. People know him. What does Palin have? Nothing.
Maybe I should of phrased it better.
You meant to say "People COULD HAVE voted for him" But they didn\'t.... Cause they didn\'t want to. Obama picks Clinton, case closed. He didn\'t though. Doh.
And Clips.. absolutely every single reporter/anchor/analyst that I have seen from both parties said today that was an unfair question.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/sarah-palin-instituted-ra_b_125833.html
Is anyone actually OK with this?
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It\'s obviously all true and there is no other side of the story.
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Y\'know, I always thought that Matt Damon was like a Streisand, but he was rocking the shit in the Bourne Identity!
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/sarah-palin-instituted-ra_b_125833.html
Is anyone actually OK with this?
Daily Kos and Huffington Post really lend to the credibility of your posts. :rolleyes:
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Minus the fact I don\'t care about credibility of posts? Or the fact that while you claim every anti-Palin article is biased?
You trolling doesn\'t add to the credibility to your posts.