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Title: 9 dead in Finland school shooting
Post by: Eiksirf on September 23, 2008, 09:57:40 AM
Second in two years. Last one also saw a nurse and principal killed.

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Gunman kills 9 at school in Finland, shoots self

Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:13 AM EDT
The Associated Press
By MATTI HUUHTANEN Associated Press Writer

HELSINKI, Finland (AP) — A masked gunman whose violent YouTube postings prompted police to bring him in for questioning opened fire Tuesday at his trade school in western Finland, killing nine people before shooting himself, authorities said.
 
Witnesses said panic broke out as the gunman entered the school in Kauhajoki, 180 miles northwest of Helsinki, and began firing in a classroom where students were taking an exam. The shootings began just before 11 a.m. local time (0800GMT), as about 150 students were at Kauhajoki School of Hospitality.
 
The gunman had been questioned by police just one day before the attack about YouTube postings in which he is seen firing a handgun, Interior Minister Anne Holmlund said. He was released because there was no legal grounds to hold him, she said.
 
It was Finland\'s second school massacre in less than a year.
 
"Within a short space of time I heard several dozen rounds of shots, in other words it was an automatic pistol," school janitor Jukka Forsberg told Finnish broadcaster YLE. "I saw some female students who were wailing and moaning and one managed to escape out of the back door."
 
Kauhajoki Mayor Antti Rantakokko confirmed that nine people were killed. At least one other woman had a gunshot wound to the head before the gunman shot himself in the head, just like the other school shooting last year.
 
Finnish tabloid Ilta-Sanomat reported that police had identified the gunman as Matti Juhani Saari, a 22-year-old student. Authorities would only confirm that he was a student at the school, born in 1986.
The gunman and the wounded woman were taken to a hospital in Tampere, two hours away, the hospital\'s medical director Matti Lehto told the AP.
 
"(He is) shot in the head so he is severely injured," Lehto said.
 
"We have experienced a tragic day," Prime Minister Matti Vanhanen said as he expressed condolences to the families of the victims and declared Wednesday a day of mourning.
 
Tuesday\'s rampage happened almost a year after another gunman killed eight people and himself at a school in southern Finland, an attack that triggered a fierce debate about gun laws in this Nordic nation with deep-rooted traditions of hunting in the sub-Arctic wilderness.
 
Finnish authorities did not confirm exactly what YouTube clips were linked to the shooter. However, Finnish media reported that in one YouTube clip, a young man wearing a leather jacket fires several shots in rapid succession with a handgun at what appears to be a shooting range.
 
The posting was made five days before the shooting and the location was given as Kauhajoki — the same town as Tuesday\'s shooting. The posting included a message saying: "Whole life is war and whole life is pain. And you will fight alone in your personal war."
 
The person who posted the clip identified himself as a 22-year-old with the name "Mr. Saari." He also posted three other clips of himself firing a handgun in the past three weeks.
 
Clips from the 1999 Columbine school shootings in Colorado were listed among his favorite videos.
 
Last year, Pekka-Eric Auvinen, described by police as a bullied 18-year-old outcast, opened fire at his high school in southern Finland on Nov. 7. He killed six students, a school nurse and the principal before ending his own life with a gunshot to the head.
 
Finnish investigators have said Auvinen left a suicide note for his family and foreshadowed his attack in YouTube postings.
 
With 1.6 million firearms in private hands, Finland is an anomaly in Europe, lagging behind only the United States and Yemen in civilian gun ownership, studies show.
 
After Auvinen\'s rampage, the government said it would raise the minimum age for buying guns from 15 to 18, but insisted there was no need for sweeping changes to Finland\'s gun laws.
Title: 9 dead in Finland school shooting
Post by: GmanJoe on September 23, 2008, 10:15:22 AM
Man....all I ever heard from Finland was your great rally drivers and beautiful lakes. This is sad.
Title: 9 dead in Finland school shooting
Post by: GigaShadow on September 23, 2008, 10:30:43 AM
So that is what Samwise has been up to.
Title: 9 dead in Finland school shooting
Post by: clips on September 23, 2008, 11:33:58 AM
That is sad....and why do these a**holes always want to kill others before killing themselves?...you want to kill yourself, do that s**t in the privacy of your own home,...no need to drag down innocent people with your crazyness...on another note, i haven\'t really heard of any major school shootings over here in the states as of late,..i think the last major tragedy was the VA tech incident.


And i didn\'t know that you could by a gun at age 15?....that\'s crazy!!!
Title: 9 dead in Finland school shooting
Post by: Jar O Pickles on September 23, 2008, 11:43:42 AM
what state is finland in?
Title: 9 dead in Finland school shooting
Post by: Coredweller on September 23, 2008, 01:20:49 PM
Quote from: GigaShadow
So that is what Samwise has been up to.
WTF?   Samwise lives in Denmark.
 
I would expect something like this to happen in February during the Seasonal Affective Disorder months, not in September!
Title: 9 dead in Finland school shooting
Post by: GigaShadow on September 23, 2008, 05:46:05 PM
Quote from: Coredweller
WTF?   Samwise lives in Denmark.
 
I would expect something like this to happen in February during the Seasonal Affective Disorder months, not in September!


LOL I know he does that is what makes it humorous.
Title: 9 dead in Finland school shooting
Post by: Coredweller on September 24, 2008, 09:19:57 AM
Hey Giga,  I heard on the internets that Obama took a trip to Finland recently.  Do you think he might be behind this?  Why isn\'t he releasing his travel itineraries?  :nerd:
Title: 9 dead in Finland school shooting
Post by: GmanJoe on September 24, 2008, 09:31:50 AM
Wonder if Barrack has a son named Al.