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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Mr. Kennedy on September 26, 2008, 07:46:51 PM
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Who watched? What did you think?
In my opinion Obama made a few key errors... multiple times...
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/26/john-is-right/ (http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/26/john-is-right/)
Overall, Obama laid out his plan. McCain did suprisingly well on the economic issues. Both candidates did their job.
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The "john is right" comment, was just Obama\'s way of showing that they agree on that particular issue, people are making a mountain out of a molehill on that one. Overall i give the edge to Obama(surprise i know ;)..)...but he held his own against McCain who was supposed to blow Obama away in foreign relations...Obama started off very strong and confident while McCain was trying to find his footing early on. Obama had a counter for every single statement McCain had.
McCain started to do a little better after Obama made fun of his bomb bomb iran statement, and it\'s clear that Obama is owning McCain as far as the economy is concerned, and McCain was more comfortable talking up his foreign policy experience and Obama countered and held his own in defining how he would do things differently than the current administration. Overall both candidates actually did better than i expected.
One thing i did notice tho,..McCain never looked at Obama..not once, and everytime Obama explained his views, he looked directly at McCain with confidence & poise and never losin\' his cool...he looked more presidential in this round.
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This sums up about how most folks feel about the debate...:fro:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/27/scheider.debate.wrap.cnn
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This sums up about how most folks feel about the debate...:fro:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/27/scheider.debate.wrap.cnn
The zero got his ass handed to him. Showed how inexperienced he is. I especially loved the uhhhh.. uhhh.. uhh\'s. 0bama was frequently rattled and looked angry at times. Not to mention the spittle on his lower lip at one point. :lmao: John McCain was giving him economics and history lessons. It was great, especially when 0bama kept trying to interrupt.
Linking cnn after 0bama\'s campaign "endorsed" the network for debate coverage and then saying that is how "most folks" feel about the debate is laughable and shows how uneducated you are about the whole election.
Monkey boy lost. He is wrong about the economy and foreign affairs. He was wrong about Henry Kissenger\'s comments and Kissenger has since commented that Obozo was wrong.
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Both are wrong about being able to directly have in impact on the economy as Presidents. Most economists will agree that the economy takes it\'s own course, no matter who\'s in charge.
But foreign affairs are directly impacted by the president. And McCain is the only one who has that experience. Putin would destroy Obama\'s o-ring.
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Both are wrong about being able to directly have in impact on the economy as Presidents. Most economists will agree that the economy takes it\'s own course, no matter who\'s in charge.
Ron Paul would agree, the best economy is one that doesn\'t have the government\'s hands on it.
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Believe what you want to believe. An AP story citing CNN and CBS polls shows shows Obama won the debate. Posted on foxnews.com, that bastion of liberal bias:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/27/snapshot-polls-give-obama-edge-over-mccain-in-debate/
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Believe what you want to believe. An AP story citing CNN and CBS polls shows shows Obama won the debate. Posted on foxnews.com, that bastion of liberal bias:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/27/snapshot-polls-give-obama-edge-over-mccain-in-debate/
Go ahead - live by the poll, die by the poll. Polls are worthless. Anyone with a brain saw that stuttering 0bama didn\'t know a thing about foreign affairs. By the way who is Tom?
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The zero got his ass handed to him. Showed how inexperienced he is. I especially loved the uhhhh.. uhhh.. uhh\'s. 0bama was frequently rattled and looked angry at times. Not to mention the spittle on his lower lip at one point. :lmao: John McCain was giving him economics and history lessons. It was great, especially when 0bama kept trying to interrupt.
Linking cnn after 0bama\'s campaign "endorsed" the network for debate coverage and then saying that is how "most folks" feel about the debate is laughable and shows how uneducated you are about the whole election.
Monkey boy lost. He is wrong about the economy and foreign affairs. He was wrong about Henry Kissenger\'s comments and Kissenger has since commented that Obozo was wrong.
Keep reachin\'... Obama mopped the floor with McCain on the economics front every step of the way,...all McCain did was try to joke his way out in certain parts in which he recieved no pop at all,...Obama countered everything McCain stated and looked directly at McCain while saying it..:p..not once did McCain look over at him,...Obama also explained his views in a more detailed and articulated way than McCain. McCain\'s answers were drab & flat.
On foreign policy?...McCain shows he has knowledge, but this was his strength anyway, but in no way did he blow Obama away on foreign policy..Obama stood his ground, and gave clear reasons why the war in iraq was wrong in the first place, and he even flustered McCain by saying he wouldn\'t meet with spains president....why?..this goes back to spain pulling out of iraq, when the u.s. didn\'t really want them to, and recently McCain even called them adversaries? but yet they are fighting side-by-side with our troops in afghanastan, and you say he\'s going to heal the wounds set by Bush?....you are truly delusional....he has the same arrogant attitude as bush and country\'s all over the world will continue to look at the u.s. in a bad light if he is president.
McCain held a townhouse meeting awhile back during the georgia/russia scenario and in saying that "we are all georgians"...he even made indications that he would engage russia if the situation continued(militarily),..no negotiations at all...he\'s just like bush in that aspect,...and that is the same kind of rhetoric that has gotten us into the misguided war that is iraq....McCains twisted philosophies are the kind that are not needed for america.
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Anyone with a brain saw that stuttering 0bama didn\'t know a thing about foreign affairs.
Might be time to root for the other guy then. Our leaders aren\'t usually elected by the people with brains...
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The zero got his ass handed to him. Showed how inexperienced he is. I especially loved the uhhhh.. uhhh.. uhh\'s. 0bama was frequently rattled and looked angry at times. Not to mention the spittle on his lower lip at one point. :lmao: John McCain was giving him economics and history lessons. It was great, especially when 0bama kept trying to interrupt.
Linking cnn after 0bama\'s campaign "endorsed" the network for debate coverage and then saying that is how "most folks" feel about the debate is laughable and shows how uneducated you are about the whole election.
Monkey boy lost. He is wrong about the economy and foreign affairs. He was wrong about Henry Kissenger\'s comments and Kissenger has since commented that Obozo was wrong.
Sorry, I can\'t be bothered to read racist trash.
Monkey boy?
Bring out the lynching mob, by all means.
The fact you can\'t make a simple post explaining your view point without using "0bama" or "Monkey Boy" says a lot.
By the way, welcome to the minority. You\'re one of the few who actually thought McCain "won" that debate.
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Keep reachin\'... Obama mopped the floor with McCain on the economics front every step of the way,...all McCain did was try to joke his way out in certain parts in which he recieved no pop at all,...Obama countered everything McCain stated and looked directly at McCain while saying it..:p..not once did McCain look over at him,...Obama also explained his views in a more detailed and articulated way than McCain. McCain\'s answers were drab & flat.
On foreign policy?...McCain shows he has knowledge, but this was his strength anyway, but in no way did he blow Obama away on foreign policy..Obama stood his ground, and gave clear reasons why the war in iraq was wrong in the first place, and he even flustered McCain by saying he wouldn\'t meet with spains president....why?..this goes back to spain pulling out of iraq, when the u.s. didn\'t really want them to, and recently McCain even called them adversaries? but yet they are fighting side-by-side with our troops in afghanastan, and you say he\'s going to heal the wounds set by Bush?....you are truly delusional....he has the same arrogant attitude as bush and country\'s all over the world will continue to look at the u.s. in a bad light if he is president.
McCain held a townhouse meeting awhile back during the georgia/russia scenario and in saying that "we are all georgians"...he even made indications that he would engage russia if the situation continued(militarily),..no negotiations at all...he\'s just like bush in that aspect,...and that is the same kind of rhetoric that has gotten us into the misguided war that is iraq....McCains twisted philosophies are the kind that are not needed for america.
LOL you are reaching. 0bozo reach across the aisle? The right hates him more than you hate Bush. Countries all over the world want the monkey to be president because he is socialist like them.
By the way the gaffe of the night was 0bozo saying "I have a bracelet too!" and he couldn\'t even remember the name on it. It was also rude of 0bozo to called Senator McCain, John all the time - while McCain called him Senator Obama. Sound trivial? Just as trivial as "McCain not looking at him and addressing the audience. Should we talk about the monkey\'s stuttering attempts to interrupt McCain? How about ear marks since you seem to think 0 did such a grand job on the economy. You can\'t raise taxes and expect the economy to recover - it doesn\'t work that way. Why won\'t the 0 admit the surge worked?
Is he like Bush in that he can\'t admit he was wrong? Doh! You are stupid clips. I my be an asshole, but most will agree you are uneducated. Typical 0bama supporter.
LIC if you don\'t like it don\'t reply.
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LOL you are reaching. 0bozo reach across the aisle? The right hates him more than you hate Bush. Countries all over the world want the monkey to be president because he is socialist like them.
By the way the gaffe of the night was 0bozo saying "I have a bracelet too!" and he couldn\'t even remember the name on it. It was also rude of 0bozo to called Senator McCain, John all the time - while McCain called him Senator Obama. Sound trivial? Just as trivial as "McCain not looking at him and addressing the audience. Should we talk about the monkey\'s stuttering attempts to interrupt McCain? How about ear marks since you seem to think 0 did such a grand job on the economy. You can\'t raise taxes and expect the economy to recover - it doesn\'t work that way. Why won\'t the 0 admit the surge worked?
Is he like Bush in that he can\'t admit he was wrong? Doh! You are stupid clips. I my be an asshole, but most will agree you are uneducated. Typical 0bama supporter.
LIC if you don\'t like it don\'t reply.
The only stupid person here, is the bigot. And I only see one racist bigot posting at the moment.
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The only stupid person here, is the bigot. And I only see one racist bigot posting at the moment.
Oh its ok to call Bush a "chimp", but don\'t dare call the 0bamamessiah a "monkey". Nice double standard there.
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Straw polls mean nothing in politics. Ron Paul was HEAVILY favored in many straw polls in his bid to earn the republican nomination. Unfortunately his core demographic appeal was young independents, who don\'t really matter enough come election time. I honestly believe Obama will suffer the same fate.
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LOL you are reaching. 0bozo reach across the aisle? The right hates him more than you hate Bush. Countries all over the world want the monkey to be president because he is socialist like them.
By the way the gaffe of the night was 0bozo saying "I have a bracelet too!" and he couldn\'t even remember the name on it. It was also rude of 0bozo to called Senator McCain, John all the time - while McCain called him Senator Obama. Sound trivial? Just as trivial as "McCain not looking at him and addressing the audience. Should we talk about the monkey\'s stuttering attempts to interrupt McCain? How about ear marks since you seem to think 0 did such a grand job on the economy. You can\'t raise taxes and expect the economy to recover - it doesn\'t work that way. Why won\'t the 0 admit the surge worked?
Is he like Bush in that he can\'t admit he was wrong? Doh! You are stupid clips. I my be an asshole, but most will agree you are uneducated. Typical 0bama supporter.
LIC if you don\'t like it don\'t reply.
You think i care what most people think of me on an internet site?...:laughing:...trust i could care less,...and i already stated that i\'am not knowledgeable on some aspects concerning the constitution....big deal,..i feel sorry for you since you feel it\'s such an accomplishment to think you know alot because a select few agree with your reasoning on an internet site, when that couldn\'t be further from the truth(it\'s only a difference of opinion between dems & repubs)....but now i\'m stupid?...giga you\'ve been calling obama names and acting like a childish 8 year old,..grow up and stop starting every sentence with monkey boy and "0".
I look at situations from a common sense viewpoint and i don\'t act like the "grand wizard" of politics like some are trying to be in here....and you\'re having amnesia again,..Obama did state the name of the person he received the bracelett from, and just so you know go compare Obamna & McCains economic plans for the country,..you\'ll find that McCains will actually cost billions more than Obama\'s... do the math...oh and newsflash, not all earmarks are bad,..you do know that is how alot of projects such as repairing bridges and some of our roadways are involved in earmarks right?
And Obama wasn\'t wrong about iraq overall,...we shouldn\'t have been there in the first place...and if we did pull out like he wanted, who\'s to say that those iraqi\'s would\'ve step up to the plate, since they would have been forced to get their act together?...that is a scenario that could have happened also, and while we\'re spending 10 billion a month in iraq you see how bush was so fascinated with iraq that he took his eye off the economy and now it\'s at risk of collapsing....
McCain can say whatever he wants but the fact remains that this economy crashed while his republicans were in charge and he did nothing to stop it, and he\'s been in politics for over 26 years, plenty of time to get the things done that he now states he will do differently,...:rolleyes:...you can\'t teach an old dog new tricks,..and that certaintly applies to McCain.
And nobody ever called bush a "chimp" i may have called him an idiot sure, but certaintly not a chimp....and Obama did win this first round of the debates,..it\'s as simple as that.
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Oh its ok to call Bush a "chimp", but don\'t dare call the 0bamamessiah a "monkey". Nice double standard there.
You can\'t even make a simple point like this without having to throw out some insult like "0bamamessiah". I mean, it\'s flat out pathetic. And the fact you can\'t even spell Obama without using a 0, really nullifies any post you may make. I just can\'t take them serious. It\'s like watching a five year old not get their way.
You like to act like you are super intelligent, but newsflash. You\'re not. You are simply on the other side of the political fence.
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Giga should just put his hood on and call him a nigger already.
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I never post in this forum, am quite liberal, and will vote for Obama in the election.
That said, McCain destroyed him in that debate. It\'s easy for either side to say they won based on the issues, because the two sides have different takes on the issues. McCain though looked calm, confident and likable. Obama looked flustered and nervous. Ultimately, that perception probably matters more than who was actually right in what they said.
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I work at a very conservative company... we probably have about 25 people and only about 5 or 6 of us are Obama supporters. Many people here (who support McCain) admitted that they thought Obama "just looked better" on tv and they didn\'t like that McCain never looked at Obama or engaged him directly.
I just think it\'s interesting how even though they are voting for McCain without question, thought Obama looked more comfortable up there.. but then someone like yourself (an Obama supporter) thought he looked bad.
I don\'t think either side did all that well... but both seemed to have pleased their constituencies.
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The man can\'t even do an interview without losing his temper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHcPXfgD4jM
He also acknowledges(And at same time, throws out a slight insult) that he doesn\'t care what the general public thinks about Palin.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
0bama is a monkey... Ah-Ah-Ah, Eee-Eee-Eee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poCfutKNeig
Japan even agrees!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hInLo10I72w
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http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mg5tl87rEE4&eurl=http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/128028/detail/
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I didn\'t watch it but I read the transcript after. I thought McCain did slightly better, mostly because it seemed he had Obama defending himself more. I think that seeing it on TV could be distracting. You may be paying more attention to how the guy looks than what hes saying.
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I didn\'t watch it but I read the transcript after. I thought McCain did slightly better, mostly because it seemed he had Obama defending himself more. I think that seeing it on TV could be distracting. You may be paying more attention to how the guy looks than what hes saying.
the main thing that bugged me about the debate was it was filled with mccain saying something about obama, and obama saying "that\'s not true". It\'s impossible to tell whether mccain was bending the truth/facts, or whether obama was trying to cover things up
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the main thing that bugged me about the debate was it was filled with mccain saying something about obama, and obama saying "that\'s not true". It\'s impossible to tell whether mccain was bending the truth/facts, or whether obama was trying to cover things up
The problem for Obama is that it doesn\'t really matter if what McCain was saying was 100% accurate. It put him on the defense all night long. It made Obama look a little weak and under-prepared IMO.
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The problem for Obama is that it doesn\'t really matter if what McCain was saying was 100% accurate. It put him on the defense all night long. It made Obama look a little weak and under-prepared IMO.
I disagree....Obama countered and answered every accusiation(spel) by McCain...if he didn\'t confront what McCain was saying, people would have been wondering why he didn\'t address it. In answering McCain, Obama stated that he wanted to make sure the american public knew what exactly transpired.
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This VP debate though...God damn, Biden ripped Palin apart.
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This VP debate though...God damn, Biden ripped Palin apart.
That is a pretty good joke. Sarah got under his skin and came across as an everyday person. She connected way more than old hairplugz did. She nailed him on every issue and had him outright lying! :rofl:
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Um, are you kidding? Everyone I know...including many undecided voters are saying Biden came off much more knowledgeable, actually citing specific bits of information (whether you agree with them or not), while Palin kind of had a few things she repeated, and often just talked in generalizations and ideas without actually saying much of anything.
The perception coming into this debate was that she didn\'t know enough or wasn\'t smart enough to be president. Her goal should have been to change that, but she looked completely outsmarted in this, and completely failed to do that, in my eyes.
Once again, the hyper conservatives, such as yourself, and hyper liberals and Obama followers are gonna always say their side won, simply because they\'ll agree with what their candidate is saying more. But I think if you look from an impartial standpoint...this one wasn\'t even close.
And the analysts seem to be siding with Biden too. To me, this was a much bigger gap than the first presidential debate, where I thought McCain won, and the analysts seemed to be more split.
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This VP debate though...God damn, Biden ripped Palin apart.
What debate were you watching? I could\'ve sworn he mis-stated facts at least ten times.
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Um, are you kidding? Everyone I know...including many undecided voters are saying Biden came off much more knowledgeable, actually citing specific bits of information (whether you agree with them or not), while Palin kind of had a few things she repeated, and often just talked in generalizations and ideas without actually saying much of anything.
The perception coming into this debate was that she didn\'t know enough or wasn\'t smart enough to be president. Her goal should have been to change that, but she looked completely outsmarted in this, and completely failed to do that, in my eyes.
Once again, the hyper conservatives, such as yourself, and hyper liberals and Obama followers are gonna always say their side won, simply because they\'ll agree with what their candidate is saying more. But I think if you look from an impartial standpoint...this one wasn\'t even close.
And the analysts seem to be siding with Biden too. To me, this was a much bigger gap than the first presidential debate, where I thought McCain won, and the analysts seemed to be more split.
Thank God some one around here has a clue.
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What debate were you watching? I could\'ve sworn he mis-stated facts at least ten times.
Cause Americans watching TV give a shit about facts.
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Don\'t single out Joe Biden, Sarah Palin also gives out inaccurate facts too. In fact, many politicians in general do that. Hey, its politics. Think of it not much difference than car salesperson, or any kind of salesperson. Even we human also sometimes make inaccurate facts here and there too, but of course for chatting purposes only, usually not for any kind of benefits. Unlike salesperson who lied to persuade you to buy their products.