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Title: It was political..........
Post by: luckee on October 13, 2008, 06:07:20 PM
And not racist...so kiss my ass with that comparison.

Try again...........
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 13, 2008, 06:11:14 PM
Quote from: luckee
And not racist...so kiss my ass with that comparison.

Try again...........


Which is worse sexism or racism?  That kind of crap has gotten out of hand, I myself am guilty of it as well.  Deal with it.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: luckee on October 13, 2008, 06:15:02 PM
LOL..so not only do I make your cock hard with my posts, you are a hypocrite as well....

I love it redneck!!!

Keep grabbing, I did not post anything sexist either.

Just b/c she is a woman and happens to say retarded shit does not mean it was  a sexist post.

Insensitive maybe, sexist...not
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 13, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
And Biden doesn\'t say retarded shit?  Nice way to avoid the accusation.  Sexism is just as bad as racism.  You call me the hypocrite?  Don\'t make me close another thread because you have to make a disagreement with your shitty posts public.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: luckee on October 13, 2008, 06:22:44 PM
What the fuck does this have to do with Biden? Rogaine says his fair share of retarded shit! Stay on subject please.

What did I avoid..I thought I answered the whole sexist/racist thing fair enough.

Yes I did, hypocrite.

AGAIN...Insensitive maybe, sexist...not
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 13, 2008, 06:26:08 PM
Well considering we have no women here... we won\'t get a definitive answer on the sexism question.  You can\'t see the double standard?  And you call me the hypocrite.  I am done with this topic.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: luckee on October 13, 2008, 06:28:07 PM
Just admit you are upset that I "attacked" your pick.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 13, 2008, 06:28:33 PM
the only way that picture is sexist is if it said all retarded things come out of all womens\' mouths.

this is specific to one woman saying many retarded things, and a few retarded pregnant teenagers who have never heard of a contraceptive

soo +1 for luckee from me
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 13, 2008, 06:33:39 PM
Like I said... with no women here you won\'t get an honest answer.  

And Viper how is that post "political"?  He cited nothing specific that he considered stupid.  Why is she considered stupid?  Why not post the words without the picture?  Is it because she is attractive?  Obviously she is intelligent to become the governor of a state.  More intelligent than the rest of us.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: luckee on October 13, 2008, 06:35:57 PM
I thought you were done? WHAT HAPPENED?

I think some of the things she has let out of her mouth is self explanatory retardation.  Taking the bible literally is scary enough without having to look towards other things.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 13, 2008, 06:43:34 PM
So faith is retarded?  O...k...  Also your post is offensive due to the fact that she has a child with downs syndrome.  

By your rational, don\'t make fun of a black person, but it is ok to make fun of women and retards.  You are a class act.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: cloud345 on October 13, 2008, 10:02:07 PM
I thought the pic was hilarious.....
Title: It was political..........
Post by: cloud345 on October 13, 2008, 10:03:58 PM
"So faith is retarded?"

That\'s not what he was saying. What he was saying is that when science disproves something in the bible, ignoring that science and pushing that belief is stupid. Faith is great and terrific, but when it gets in the way of common sense and facts...well then there\'s a problem.

"Why is she considered stupid? Why not post the words without the picture? Is it because she is attractive? Obviously she is intelligent to become the governor of a state. More intelligent than the rest of us."

Speak for yourself bud....
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Bozco on October 13, 2008, 10:06:43 PM
Save this shit for OT
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 14, 2008, 01:58:35 AM
Quote from: GigaShadow
So faith is retarded?  O...k...  Also your post is offensive due to the fact that she has a child with downs syndrome.  

By your rational, don\'t make fun of a black person, but it is ok to make fun of women and retards.  You are a class act.

HELLO? POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK?
You spent all of last week throwing racist remarks about, calling a black person a "monkey" and so on.

You have zero room to comment about being a "class act".

I\'m more concerned with the fact you can close threads in this forum, when you,yourself have been trolling and ruining thread after thread.

(p.s - faith is retarded. Why don\'t we all just start believing in magical fairies while we are at it?)
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on October 14, 2008, 04:44:53 AM
The picture was definitely in poor taste, but no worse than anything Giga has done.  If you wanted him to stop with the racism, he certainly won\'t now.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 14, 2008, 05:15:27 AM
I stopped, but then luckee thought it would be in good taste to post that crap.  Like I said it belongs in OT.  I already admitted I was wrong, seems others want a double standard.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: clips on October 14, 2008, 05:17:09 AM
Quote from: GigaShadow
Like I said... with no women here you won\'t get an honest answer.  

And Viper how is that post "political"?  He cited nothing specific that he considered stupid.  Why is she considered stupid?  Why not post the words without the picture?  Is it because she is attractive?  Obviously she is intelligent to become the governor of a state.  More intelligent than the rest of us.



I\'m sure if any of us take or pursue a field or course in politics, and understanding the basic fundamentals of it, who\'s to say that any of us might actually turn out to be a better governor or smarter than Palin? At the moment she knows more than any of us because she\'s in the field that she practices. Just in how I can say i\'m more knowledgeable about the computer systems i maintain at my job, that you wouldn\'t have a clue about,...but with proper training, you could know just as much as i do and maybe even perform the job a bit better. The same logic applies here.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 14, 2008, 05:22:37 AM
Quote from: clips
I\'m sure if any of us take or pursue a field or course in politics, and understanding the basic fundamentals of it, who\'s to say that any of us might actually turn out to be a better governor or smarter than Palin? At the moment she knows more than any of us because she\'s in the field that she practices. Just in how I can say i\'m more knowledgeable about the computer systems i maintain at my job, that you wouldn\'t have a clue about,...but with proper training, you could know just as much as i do and maybe even perform the job a bit better. The same logic applies here.


I can say this with absolute certainty.  Palin is way more intelligent than you, LIC and luckee.  Unless of course it comes to collecting welfare checks and working on Dodge cars.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GmanJoe on October 14, 2008, 05:25:09 AM
Dodge kills more Americans than the Iraq war.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: clips on October 14, 2008, 05:29:56 AM
Quote from: GigaShadow
I can say this with absolute certainty.  Palin is way more intelligent than you, LIC and luckee.  Unless of course it comes to collecting welfare checks and working on Dodge cars.



:laughing:...regardless of how i feel about her I.Q.....all i\'m saying is that if we got into politics and have taken a specific field of study in it,..there\'s a chance that any of us could be a better governor or smarter than Palin....hey if you don\'t have that much confidence in yourself so be it,..all i\'m saying is that it\'s a possibility.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 14, 2008, 05:33:47 AM
Quote from: clips
:laughing:...regardless of how i feel about her I.Q.....all i\'m saying is that if we got into politics and have taken a specific field of study in it,..there\'s a chance that any of us could be a better governor or smarter than Palin....hey if you don\'t have that much confidence in yourself so be it,..all i\'m saying is that it\'s a possibility.

Clips, it also takes more than intelligence.  It takes ambition and sacrifice.  Who would want to run for an office now a days with all the dirt people dig up?  Would you?  

Being a politician isn\'t a trade.  You don\'t just go to school and then run for office.  It doesn\'t work that way.  You have be good at a multitude of things and have charisma.  It is not as easy as you make it out to be.

EDIT:  Also wasn\'t it you getting upset at people at McCain rallies calling Obama a Muslim, a terrorist, etc?  Yet, calling Palin names is ok.  Like I said I cleaned up my act - others took it as a green light for them to be assholes as well.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on October 14, 2008, 05:35:18 AM
Quote from: clips
:laughing:...regardless of how i feel about her I.Q.....all i\'m saying is that if we got into politics and have taken a specific field of study in it,..there\'s a chance that any of us could be a better governor or smarter than Palin....hey if you don\'t have that much confidence in yourself so be it,..all i\'m saying is that it\'s a possibility.


I think we forget though, she did do a great job as mayor, and she was thought of very favorably as governor...  that\'s got to count for something.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: clips on October 14, 2008, 05:49:56 AM
Quote from: GigaShadow
Clips, it also takes more than intelligence.  It takes ambition and sacrifice.  Who would want to run for an office now a days with all the dirt people dig up?  Would you?  

Being a politician isn\'t a trade.  You don\'t just go to school and then run for office.  It doesn\'t work that way.  You have be good at a multitude of things and have charisma.  It is not as easy as you make it out to be.

EDIT:  Also wasn\'t it you getting upset at people at McCain rallies calling Obama a Muslim, a terrorist, etc?  Yet, calling Palin names is ok.  Like I said I cleaned up my act - others took it as a green light for them to be assholes as well.


I understand all of that, and i was just saying in general terms without explaining all of those details, that it\'s a possibility that any us could do what she did and even better if we study politics and build up our knowledge of gov\'t,....my point is that you act like she can always be smarter than any of us,...take for instance you and Core...even tho you can be a bit of an ass giga, i still think you\'re a knowledgeable person, along with Core...now if you guys pursued a position in politics and for the sake of argument governor,..i do believe that there is a chance that you guys can do a better job than Palin and actually might even be a bit more intelligent than her on certain issues,..it is a possibility.

To act like she will always be smarter than us is like telling your kids, you can never be president or you\'ll never be able to own your own company because you\'ll never be as smart as the said individual.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 14, 2008, 05:56:01 AM
Ok, hypothetically I suppose your argument is valid, but...

As it stands now she is more successful than any of us here I would guess.  

The point I am trying to make is that this negativity has to stop.  It isn\'t healthy for us or the country.  If you bring up issues - post links to back them up.  That has always been the unwritten rule here.  I don\'t care if we disagree, I just don\'t want this forum turning into a FreeRepublic or a DailyKOS.  I know I haven\'t been lately, but I think we can all be civil and attempt to post intelligent views.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 14, 2008, 05:57:18 AM
Quote from: GigaShadow
I stopped, but then luckee thought it would be in good taste to post that crap.  Like I said it belongs in OT.  I already admitted I was wrong, seems others want a double standard.


You went one whole day without making racist comments and even then, you had to throw in there that you can\'t discuss Obama with black people - a generally racist comment.

Quit trying to act like a victim.  

And as for double standards - did I laugh at Luckee\'s pic? Not really. I found it equally as stupid as all the shit you post.

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. Unless of course it comes to collecting welfare checks and working on Dodge cars.


And stupid shit like this. You keep throwing insults out with no basis, just to try and be shocking. It\'s pathetic and honestly, if I was a Republican, I\'d be ashamed to say you were a supporter of my party.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 14, 2008, 05:59:14 AM
First of all I admitted I was wrong - not playing a victim at all.  Secondly, the welfare check comment was said with sarcasm.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 14, 2008, 06:01:34 AM
Quote from: GigaShadow
First of all I admitted I was wrong - not playing a victim at all.  Secondly, the welfare check comment was said with sarcasm.


Your sarcasm does not come across on a message board and I find it hard to believe it was sarcasm. You\'ve been trolling like this for the past month, throwing out random insults and racist comments.

Let me make it clear, I don\'t support Luckee\'s picture either, but I find it absurd that you can go around , insult people, make racist comments, but as soon as someone posts a tasteless picture of the other candiate, then you have the right to close it? Complete double standard. Even better is, just in another thread you were crying about how the Democrat\'s always try and shut up anyone who disagrees with them. What exactly would you call what you done?
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on October 14, 2008, 06:14:16 AM
So much for civil disagreements...

only a few more weeks until this BS election is over.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: videoholic on October 14, 2008, 07:01:24 AM
Has anyone mentioned that the joke is really stupid and not really worth discussing in any shape or form?
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Joker on October 14, 2008, 07:18:28 AM
some might even call it retarded


POST THREEEEE THOUSSAANNNNDDDDD AHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: It was political..........
Post by: luckee on October 14, 2008, 05:20:08 PM
Quote from: GigaShadow
So faith is retarded?  O...k...  Also your post is offensive due to the fact that she has a child with downs syndrome.  

By your rational, don\'t make fun of a black person, but it is ok to make fun of women and retards.  You are a class act.



When have I said not to make fun of black people?

There you go again.......
Title: It was political..........
Post by: luckee on October 14, 2008, 05:21:50 PM
Quote from: Mr. Kennedy
I think we forget though, she did do a great job as mayor, and she was thought of very favorably as governor...  that\'s got to count for something.



Yea, she left the town in debt.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on October 14, 2008, 06:27:53 PM
Quote from: luckee
Yea, she left the town in debt.


A small price to pay when you reduce taxes by 75%
Title: It was political..........
Post by: CHIZZY on October 15, 2008, 08:59:03 AM
REALLy?!??!


well in that case, then our entire economic situation is a small price to pay.
wheeee!!!!!

let\'s not collect taxes at all, then....
Title: It was political..........
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on October 15, 2008, 09:04:23 AM
Quote from: CHIZZY
REALLy?!??!


well in that case, then our entire economic situation is a small price to pay.
wheeee!!!!!

let\'s not collect taxes at all, then....


The government did not start taxing income until 1913... how did we function before that?  We didn\'t have these ridiculous government programs and let private businesses handle the load.
Title: It was political..........
Post by: GigaShadow on October 15, 2008, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Mr. Kennedy
The government did not start taxing income until 1913... how did we function before that?  We didn\'t have these ridiculous government programs and let private businesses handle the load.

Let us be clear.  The government didn\'t introduce a permanent federal income tax until 1913.  

I agree though.  The Federal Government has become so bloated with wasteful spending on useless programs.  If the government really wanted to lower taxes they would review the multitude of wasteful programs.

As you will notice the only time tax rates have really spiked is during a global war or depression.

History of top rates

    * In 1913 the tax rate was 1% on taxable net income above $3,000 ($4,000 for married couples), less deductions and exemptions. It rose to a rate of 7% on incomes above $500,000.
    * During World War I the top rate rose to 77%; after the war, the top rate was scaled down to a low of 25%.
    * During the Great Depression and World War II, the top income tax rate rose again. In the Internal Revenue Code of 1939, the top rate was 75%. The top rate reached 94% during the war and remained at 91% until 1964.
    * In 1964 the top rate was decreased to 70% (1964 Revenue Act), then to 50% in 1981 (Economic Recovery Tax Act or ERTA).
    * The Tax Reform Act of 1986 reduced the top rate to 28%, at the same time raising the bottom rate from 11% to 15% (in fact 15% and 28% became the only two tax brackets).
    * During the 1990s the top rate rose again, standing at 39.6% by the end of the decade.
    * The top rate was cut to 35% and the bottom rate was cut to 10% by the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA).

As your can see the top rate was decreased in 1981 to half.  Then in 86 to 28 percent.  This directly relates to our economic growth through the 80\'s and 90\'s.