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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/11/AR2008101101465_pf.html
Cliffs: Hotel has pro-McCain/Palin signs. Gets a lot of grief from patrons and activists and is threatened with boycotts.
If it was the other way around, say, whites were doing the same coz a hotel was supporting Obama, would it be racist of them?
Candidate Banners Can Leave Clients, Businesses Bruised
By Avis Thomas-Lester
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, October 12, 2008; C01
The sign went up Sunday evening, bold black letters against the stark white background of the marquee at the Colony South Hotel & Conference Center in Clinton: "Country First. McCain/Palin."
By daybreak, pandemonium had broken loose all across heavily Democratic Prince George\'s County. Many local supporters of Democrat Barack Obama, jolted by the message as they headed down Branch Avenue on their Monday morning commutes, grabbed cellphones and BlackBerrys to notify friends. Operators of neighborhood e-mail group lists cried foul to their memberships. The NAACP logged calls. Community leaders demanded boycotts of the hotel, a common venue for Democratic events.
"Businesspeople have to be mindful of the sentiments and sensibilities of their market trading area, and Prince George\'s County is overwhelmingly for Obama," said community activist Arthur Turner of Kettering, who was among those advocating a boycott. "People I have talked to look at the sign as a slap in the face. They feel it was blatant disrespect. . . . I have heard people say they will no longer patronize Colony South because of that disrespect."
The outcry over the hotel marquee tapped into the passion -- and sometimes anger -- that has characterized this fall\'s presidential campaign. Supporters of Republican candidate John McCain have vented their rage at rallies this week, applauding thunderously as McCain\'s running mate, Sarah Palin, accused Obama of "palling around with terrorists."
Prince George\'s, though, is clearly Obama Country. As the nation\'s wealthiest mostly black community, where about 77 percent of registered voters are Democrats, residents have Obama placards in their yards, bumper stickers on their cars and the candidate\'s visage on their T-shirts.
The marquee supporting the GOP ticket in "an area that is strongly African American was like putting a stink bomb in the middle of the living room," said University of Maryland political Professor Ron Walters. "What it does show is the emotions that are around this campaign and this election."
Colony South General Manager Alan Vahabzadeh said that the hotel, one of several Washington area businesses that has dared to venture into the political thicket, got the message after about 100 phone calls and three dozen e-mails. The sign came down Wednesday afternoon.
"I didn\'t even realize it was going to be like this," he said in an interview. The last thing "we want to do is lose business," he added.
But Friday afternoon, motorists noticed new signs -- broad banners attached to wooden stakes in the hotel\'s front yard -- again touting the Republicans.
Vahabzadeh did not return later calls seeking comment, but an employee said the phones were again ringing with complaints.
And Democratic activists started talking boycott. That could mean canceling political events at the hotel and urging residents to skip its Wednesday night karaoke events and Sunday brunches.
"While a business has the right to display what it chooses, the public has a right to show its contempt for that decision, including boycotting," said Mel Franklin, president of the Greater Marlboro Democratic Club.
Other business owners who have gotten into the political game have drawn less grief. At the Big Bad Woof pet store in liberal Takoma Park, bumper stickers urging people to "Vote for Bark Obama 2008" are available for sale. No such items were available for "John McCanine."
At B. Smith\'s restaurant in Union Station recently, a waiter sported an Obama campaign button. At the Old Town Trading Post in Alexandria, which sells hemp necklaces, African figurines and incense, among other novelties, an array of McCain T-shirts and a bumper sticker that reads "Friends don\'t let friends vote Democrat" are available for sale. A giant sign at Parson\'s Farm nursery in Prince William County proclaims the area "McCain Country."
Richard D\'Amico, a stylist at Axis, a hair salon on Connecticut Avenue NW, has declared his work area a "Sarah Palin-Free Zone" by posting on his mirror a photo he cut out of a magazine marked with a red circle and a slash across it. The salon has Obama bags in the window. None of the clients has protested or demanded equal time for McCain, he said.
"It was such a topic of conversation -- everybody wants to talk about Sarah Palin. Even my clients stop me on the street and say, \'How about that Sarah Palin?\' " said D\'Amico, an Obama supporter. "So I decided I had to put a sign up."
The political partisanship, residents said, is their right as Americans.
Some Prince George\'s Democrats acknowledge as much.
"This is a highly charged election where the stakes are extremely high and emotions are running high on all fronts," said Orlan Johnson, a lawyer who lives in Bowie and is on Obama\'s national finance team. "But it is difficult for me to believe that individuals shouldn\'t continue to have the opportunity to exercise their right to free speech. It would be un-American to not allow that to happen."
Others say residents have a right to register their dissent.
"For a business to display a huge McCain-Palin sign in the middle of such a pro-Democratic and pro-Obama area is business suicide," Franklin said.
At Colony South, Vahabzadeh said the "Country First" message had been posted on the marquee Sunday evening by security guards after they received a memo instructing them to put it up.
Vahabzadeh said he did not know who wrote the memo and has been unable to find it. He has not spoken to the security guards, who work the midnight shift, he said.
The hotel\'s owner, Francis P. Chiaramonte, could not be reached at the hotel or at his home. His son, Michael Chiaramonte, chairman of the board of the Prince George\'s County Business Roundtable, did not return a call to his office or to the roundtable office yesterday.
"We support everyone here," Vahabzadeh said of the facility, whose front lawn is frequently adorned with signs for Democratic candidates and has been the venue for the annual prayer breakfast for former state delegate Obie Patterson (D-Prince George\'s), a recent home foreclosure program called by Rep. Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) and a meeting of the African American Democratic Club.
Two weeks ago, a fundraiser for Obama was held there. "If I was so Republican, why would I book an Obama fundraiser?" Vahabzadeh asked.
Bob Ross, 63, a community activist who lives near the hotel, said Obama supporters should see the sign as a reminder that they should "stay vigilant."
"That sign should serve as a reminder that everybody who supports Obama should make sure to bring five or six people with them to the polls Nov. 4. It means that there is still more work to be done."
June White Dillard, president of the Prince George\'s chapter of the NAACP, said the type of events Colony South has booked in the past is the reason the sign cut so deeply.
Mary Brantley, a travel agency owner from Upper Marlboro, belongs to the health club at Colony South and was among those who complained to the hotel. She was heartened to see the marquee changed Wednesday. It now advertises football games.
But as she drove past the hotel Friday afternoon, she couldn\'t help notice the two large banners in the front yard proclaiming: "McCain Palin. Country First." Again.
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Nothing new here. Liberals are all about stifling dissent.
Another example:
http://www.wflxfox29.com/Global/story.asp?S=9175030
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Nothing new here. Liberals are all about stifling dissent.
Another example:
http://www.wflxfox29.com/Global/story.asp?S=9175030
That story is just two jerk offs having a disagreement...sheeit that McCain supporter probably stated i hate Obama......that monkey....just like how some of our very own members on this site have called Obama that name...;)...that\'s the kind s**t that will get your wig split if you wanna mouth off in person...:D
As far as the hotel incident goes....yeah that\'s childish...so what the hotel supports republicans. That\'s not a reason to stop doing business there..people take things extremely too personal. Support your candidate, respectively disagree and keep it movin\'.
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Actually the problem here is the hotel owners. What kind of idiots would post such a polarizing message and alienate half their customer base?
Imagine the sign outside a McDonalds:
- NOW HIRING -
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- NO MORE ABORTIONS -
"Honey, how about we stop in with the fetus for some McNuggets?"
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Actually the problem here is the hotel owners. What kind of idiots would post such a polarizing message and alienate half their customer base?
Imagine the sign outside a McDonalds:
- NOW HIRING -
- 99C HAMBURGER -
- NO MORE ABORTIONS -
"Honey, how about we stop in with the fetus for some McNuggets?"
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Heh yeah..i actually agree with this...businesses should just stay nuetral when it comes to politics....even tho the higher ups at walmart have actually indirectly hinted at their employees to vote republican at their monthly meetings, since they are worried that Obama\'s tax plan might mean a tax hike for them.
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"Community leaders demanded boycotts of the hotel, a common venue for Democratic events."
Biting the hand that feeds you. Should people boycott the hotel because the owners support the other side? No, but the owners are IDIOTS if they didn\'t see this one coming.
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That story is just two jerk offs having a disagreement...sheeit that McCain supporter probably stated i hate Obama......that monkey....just like how some of our very own members on this site have called Obama that name...;)...that\'s the kind s**t that will get your wig split if you wanna mouth off in person...:D
It is called Freedom of Speech clips. If you don\'t like what someone says you are not entitled to physically attack them. I would love to mouth off in person where you live - I just need to call ahead of time to reserve a paddy wagon.
Turns out the "Kill Him" story Obama was saying happens at McCain events is bogus too.
http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html
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Nothing new here. Liberals are all about stifling dissent.
Another example:
http://www.wflxfox29.com/Global/story.asp?S=9175030 (http://www.wflxfox29.com/Global/story.asp?S=9175030)
Two dipshits get into a fight in a Chilis, and suddenly all Liberals are like that?
If all Liberals are about stifling dissent, I would have deleted some of your whacked out posts during your meltdown last week.
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It is called Freedom of Speech clips. If you don\'t like what someone says you are not entitled to physically attack them. I would love to mouth off in person where you live - I just need to call ahead of time to reserve a paddy wagon.
Turns out the "Kill Him" story Obama was saying happens at McCain events is bogus too.
http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html
Relax...i was just messin\' with ya...:D.....as far as the story goes, i don\'t feel it was made up....you mean somebody actually added audio to that tape of somebody saying "kill him?"...you could clearly hear somebody saying that,..along with terrorists and everything else...and for those ignorant folks that were standing outside of McCains rally\'s being outspoken with their garbage,...i find it hard to believe that they wouldn\'t have stated such a thing.
If it turns out that somebody actually went so low as to put audio on something that was never really stated, then they should find that person and charge him....but i think that scenario is highly unlikely. I feel that with all of the other stuff that was being said, anybody in that rilled up crowd could have stated that and gotten away with it.
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How about the incident in the senior care center last week? The graffiti sprayed on a GOP headquarters in SC? The two guys in the Northwest who were burning McCain signs...
The list goes on and on.
Take a look at people in your own party Core. Some of the most hateful, vile stuff comes from there. Progressives are all about shutting up those they disagree with. It is a common pattern. Conservatives at least honor the principle of Free Speech and let opposing views be heard.
For example, take a trip to DailyKOS or DU and try and voice an opposing view. See how fast your post is deleted and you are banned.
In contrast, post on FR or other conservative boards with an opposing view and you are engaged in dialogue and debate. The difference is night and day.
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Relax...i was just messin\' with ya...:D.....as far as the story goes, i don\'t feel it was made up....you mean somebody actually added audio to that tape of somebody saying "kill him?"...you could clearly hear somebody saying that,..along with terrorists and everything else...and for those ignorant folks that were standing outside of McCains rally\'s being outspoken with their garbage,...i find it hard to believe that they wouldn\'t have stated such a thing.
If it turns out that somebody actually went so low as to put audio on something that was never really stated, then they should find that person and charge him....but i think that scenario is highly unlikely. I feel that with all of the other stuff that was being said, anybody in that rilled up crowd could have stated that and gotten away with it.
The secret service can\'t seem to find anyone or any witnesses. Seems like the whole thing was cooked up. As far as yelling "terrorist" and what not, once again that is freedom of speech.
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People who act up like that can still be called dipshits, right? That\'s still American?
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Sure, call them what you want - it is freedom of speech. It goes both ways.
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Oh nice... a McCain supporter (an older woman) gets attacked by an idiot Obama supporter (a man). Bunch of thugs.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-supporter-assaults-female-mccain-volunteer-in-new-york/2/
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Seventh grader called racist for wearing a Palin shirt.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Politics/Detail;jsessionid=704EF083587CEBFD2E8CA0E1064A7840?contentId=7664724&version=11&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.14.1&sflg=1
Who were you calling ignorant clips?
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how many of these off the wall, 1 person in a million stories are you going to pull up before this election is over?
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All I find. Never hear of the so called "racists" beating up Obama supporters.
Edit: Actually I have left a lot out. Don\'t feel like finding them again. It just shows what kind of people Obama supporters are.
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"Officials with Volusia County Schools said there were no referrals or complaints to the office about this incident."
Whoops!!...
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Mentally challenged man says his vote wasn\'t right
By Jennifer Emert - bio | email
October 14, 2008
ALBANY, GA (WALB) - There are allegations of voter fraud, as a Dougherty County family claims the vote of a mentally challenged relative was stolen.
They say the adult day rehab program where Jack Justice attends took him to vote, without the family\'s permission. What\'s worse is Justice says the person helping him wouldn\'t cast the ballot for his choice for President.
Jack Justice has been voting since he turned 18. Typically his family takes him to their neighborhood precinct. This time Primus Industries, his adult day rehab program, took him to vote. His family was shocked, but what shocked them more was that Jack claims that his aide commandeered his vote.
"They told me to vote for Obama, I said no I wanted to vote for McCain," said Jack Justice, a voter.
http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?s=9177991
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"Officials with Volusia County Schools said there were no referrals or complaints to the office about this incident."
Whoops!!...
Because the 7th grader didn\'t complain about it to a teacher it didn\'t happen? You and LIC should know all about labeling people racist.
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All i\'ve seen at those McCain and Palin rallys are those ignorant folks that i\'ve seen in those videos, and those guys are clearly racist....have you seen black folks with signs outside calling McCain racist? and even if there are some(in which i haven\'t seen any) it\'s only a REACTION from what has been seen at those McCain rallys....
I\'m not sure what to think about that mentally challenged story, if it\'s true,...that\'s f**ked up...as i\'ve stated with the acorn issue, I can understand some folks worrying about what happened back in florida some years ago, but there is still no need to be panicking and doing stuff like this.....i\'m skeptical about both sides tryin\' to up the number of votes for their party by outside groups, hopefully there are enough safeguards in place for whoever it is that tracks these fraudulent practices, to catch these people from either side and prosecute them.
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and even if there are some(in which i haven\'t seen any) it\'s only a REACTION from what has been seen at those McCain rallys....
And you have based this on what evidence?
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And you have based this on what evidence?
Hmmm...history?....when there have been all white candidates,..i have never recalled seeing any black protesters standing outside of that white candidates rally with signs of racist or implying that they are not voting for the said candidate because he\'s white.
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Hmmm...history?....when there have been all white candidates,..i have never recalled seeing any black protesters standing outside of that white candidates rally with signs of racist or implying that they are not voting for the said candidate because he\'s white.
What about the people voting for Obama solely based on the color of his skin? It goes both ways.
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What about the people voting for Obama solely based on the color of his skin? It goes both ways.
I already answered this in the Howard Stern thread....and everytime i make that comment about those ignorant McCain & Palin supporters...people hit me with this.....Black folks vote democratic anyway, but since it\'s a black candidate now all of a sudden all blacks are votin\' for him cause he\'s black?...nope..look at the history...most blacks have always voted democratic...and of course we don\'t have a problem voting for a white presidential candidate, since we\'ve done it hundreds of times, but here comes Obama(the first black presidential nominee), and suddenly look at the ugly racist demonstrations being orchestrated.
Everything was fine as long as all white candidates was in there right? You never seen any demonstrations or ignorance displayed when there were all white presidential candidates....that\'s why i\'m glad most people, whether they be black/white asian etc...have looked past Obama\'s color and support him strickly for his plans for the country.
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I already answered this in the Howard Stern thread....and everytime i make that comment about those ignorant McCain & Palin supporters...people hit me with this.....Black folks vote democratic anyway, but since it\'s a black candidate now all of a sudden all blacks are votin\' for him cause he\'s black?...nope..look at the history...most blacks have always voted democratic...and of course we don\'t have a problem voting for a white presidential candidate, since we\'ve done it hundreds of times, but here comes Obama(the first black presidential nominee), and suddenly look at the ugly racist demonstrations being orchestrated.
Everything was fine as long as all white candidates was in there right? You never seen any demonstrations or ignorance displayed when there were all white presidential candidates....that\'s why i\'m glad most people, whether they be black/white asian etc...have looked past Obama\'s color and support him strickly for his plans for the country.
Surprise, surprise! Colin Powell couldn\'t even resist! I am sure he votes Democrat all the time. :rolleyes: You blacks crack me up.
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Surprise, surprise! Colin Powell couldn\'t even resist! I am sure he votes Democrat all the time. :rolleyes: You blacks crack me up.
Ok maybe i should have stated that most blacks vote democratic....and i did state this in another thread...what\'s the point you\'re trying to make before i respond?
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Blacks are voting based on race. It is quite obvious.
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Blacks are voting based on race. It is quite obvious.
I know right, I mean...because....white people have never done the same. sunni never voted for sunni just b/c. jews...nazis...russians...
Do you see where I could be going with this?
Even still, the only problem with blacks is that they dont vote and since all niggers are criminals and all, they can\'t vote.
So guess who the majority of the ppl voting for Obama are?
Can you hear me now?
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Ok maybe i should have stated that most blacks vote democratic....and i did state this in another thread...what\'s the point you\'re trying to make before i respond?
I think most blacks that do vote make the democratic vote.
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how many of these off the wall, 1 person in a million stories are you going to pull up before this election is over?
I can\'t wait till election day and Giga decides to laugh and insult if McCain gets it, or if Obama gets it and insults.
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Blacks are voting based on race. It is quite obvious.
Hmmm..i guess Colin Powell supporting Obama must\'ve been a crucial blow to tha conservative base...he is like the "Bill Clinton" for the conservatives...that\'s shameful of you giga, this guy is highly respected by both parties and yet you say he\'s voting because Obama is black?..Did you even look at the reasons why?
He, like many others questioned McCains pick of Sara Palin and he doesn\'t feel that she is qualified to be prez if he croaks...and he also doesn\'t like how McCain is trying to challenge Obama\'s patriotism and his attemps to link him to ayers...did you even see his meet the press interview?....he gave crystal clear reasons why he felt Obama was the better candidate.
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Surprise, surprise! Colin Powell couldn\'t even resist! I am sure he votes Democrat all the time. :rolleyes: You blacks crack me up.
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Someone\'s tune has changed.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110064/posts
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Someone\'s tune has changed.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110064/posts
That\'s irrelevant....watch the interview to see why he\'s picking Obama....he\'s not happy with the direction and hateful rhetoric coming from the conservatives....and now it seems that some on the conservative side are already saying he picked Obama because he\'s black....the conservatives didn\'t waste any time attacking him.......keep it up and Colin Powell will be the new secretary of state in Obama\'s Administration...:D
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He clearly stated he disliked how the party was going further and further to the right. And resigning in 2004 is actual proof too in case you wanna try and dodge that point too.
I don\'t see how you can even argue against this blow to the McCain side. He\'s the only guy to come out of the Bush admin completely unscathed. Everything he\'s ever said is done so in a clear and intelligent manner and his recent views are no different. I\'d vote him president of the world if I could.
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That\'s irrelevant....watch the interview to see why he\'s picking Obama....he\'s not happy with the direction and hateful rhetoric coming from the conservatives...
Code for - it is because he is black. The right has never really liked him anyway - not like McCain would use him for anything. Oh and I hope he becomes SoS for Obama. You know he has so much credibility with the UN :rolleyes:
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Silly Obama supporters. They let these people vote?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgtij3dE10A
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Uh, you aren\'t even a US citizen. GTFO.
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Uh, you made an irrefutable point. I know you\'re right but I may as well try another hail mary attempt discredit Colin "The Whitest Black Guy Ever" Powell. GTFO.
fyp
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Again I state, I am not a big McCain fan, and he is no where near far to the right.
Obama won this election a while back, I just wonder how many of you will still want him in 2012 when he\'s up for re-election. Right now being anti-Republican is popular, but lets not forget its easy to hate now... but Bush WAS re-elected in 2004 despite being fairly well disliked.
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EXCLUSIVE: .22 Gunshot, paint balls fired at McCain / Palin Straight Talk Express
October 19th, 2008
(Sunday, October 19 - Filed by Mark Williams in Raton, New Mexico with the Stop Obama Tour) We learned at this morning’s Stop Obama Rally here that the McCain/Palin Straight Talk Express came through town yesterday. It arrived with a window shattered by a .22 caliber weapon. It had also been hit by an unknown number of paint balls from a paint ball gun or guns. There were reportedly no injuries and neither candidate was on board.
One local man who saw the damage and spoke with the McCain/Palin staffers said the attack(s) had occured in southern New Mexico that same day. The Express is traveling the country independent of the candidates, handing out campaign materials.
Sarah Palin is stumping in of all places Roswell, New Mexico today and then roughly back the way we came with an event at the Henderson, Nevada Pavilion tomorrow and a stop in Elko, Nevada.
http://www.sacunion.com/mark/?p=67
Obama is really bringing this country together. At least we have bigger guns on the right.
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Code for - it is because he is black. The right has never really liked him anyway - not like McCain would use him for anything. Oh and I hope he becomes SoS for Obama. You know he has so much credibility with the UN
This is bad comedy fo sho\'....weren\'t you the one that stated not too long ago that if Colin Powell was going for the presidency you\'d vote for him?...:rofl:...yep, this is a critical blow indeed, why? cause if Powell supported McCain it would be no big deal since he\'s a republican, but since he\'s one of top distinguished republicans supporting Obama, you guys are ready to scream the race card...i love it!!...:D
And you even go a step further to criticize him at the u.n....if that\'s the case then you must not support this travesty of a war in iraq that we\'re in, but i recall you even supporting that....are you flip flopping on that issue too?
http://www.sacunion.com/mark/?p=67
Obama is really bringing this country together. At least we have bigger guns on the right.
And Obama has control over these people?...and before you say anything in relation to those idiots at McCain rallys, Obama has never tied McCain to terrorists, or tried to challenge his patriotism and say that you can\'t trust him...McCain in that sense has incited his supporters with such rhetoric, and they are strongly voicing their opinions and responding to what is being said of Obama at those rallys, no matter how incredibily ignorant they are.
If Obama has said some hateful and some inciteful statements then yeah,..but he has only attacked McCain on the issues, so you cannot blame him for anything that somebody might do on their own.....and look at your last statement,..see Obama was right,..you conservatives DO stick to your guns...:D
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clips the fact of the matter is this...
If you polled whites, I\'d guess they\'re probably 50/50, maybe slightly favor Obama.
If you polled blacks, that number probably jumps to 99/1 in favor of Obama.
I don\'t care what you say, its still racism. So much for putting the past behind us. This is part of the reason there are still race relation issues in America. It\'s not just the whites, its both sides. I wish it were like the old days when all you had were radio broadcasts of the candidates and you never got to see what they looked like. I wonder what this election would look like then, my guess is that if this were taking place in the 40\'s/50\'s anyone voting for Obama would be thought of as a communist.
I know, this is all speculative, but nothing has really disproved my theory.
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I don\'t agree...if hillary was the nominee,.. trust,...you\'d see the same amount of blacks votin\' for her...again because he\'s black you guys wanna say that all blacks are votin\' for him cause he\'s black...ok,..so why didn\'t we all vote for sharpton?,..y\'know that guy takes up for blacks every chance he gets, so surely he should\'ve recieved the black vote right?....nope...again most blacks supported kerry.
Yes there are some that are voting cause he\'s black, but most blacks aren\'t...Obama is a smart, savy intelligent guy and he already showed that he can go neck and neck with McCain on foreign policy issues and he speaks with strong conviction and he also has a likability factor,...now there\'s also the historic side of it, mainly for alot of older black folks that have seen and been thru rough times in the 40\'s 50\'s and 60\'s,..they never thought they see the day when an afri. american would have a chance at the highest position in the country.
Some may call that racism, but i don\'t,...not when the man himself is merely more than being black, he has vision and he has solid plans for the country and he\'s shown that he\'s ready to lead.
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This is bad comedy fo sho\'....weren\'t you the one that stated not too long ago that if Colin Powell was going for the presidency you\'d vote for him?...:rofl:...yep, this is a critical blow indeed, why? cause if Powell supported McCain it would be no big deal since he\'s a republican, but since he\'s one of top distinguished republicans supporting Obama, you guys are ready to scream the race card...i love it!!...:D
And you even go a step further to criticize him at the u.n....if that\'s the case then you must not support this travesty of a war in iraq that we\'re in, but i recall you even supporting that....are you flip flopping on that issue too?
And Obama has control over these people?...and before you say anything in relation to those idiots at McCain rallys, Obama has never tied McCain to terrorists, or tried to challenge his patriotism and say that you can\'t trust him...McCain in that sense has incited his supporters with such rhetoric, and they are strongly voicing their opinions and responding to what is being said of Obama at those rallys, no matter how incredibily ignorant they are.
If Obama has said some hateful and some inciteful statements then yeah,..but he has only attacked McCain on the issues, so you cannot blame him for anything that somebody might do on their own.....and look at your last statement,..see Obama was right,..you conservatives DO stick to your guns...:D
Yes, I would have had no problem voting for Powell if he was on the Republican ticket. That isn\'t the point. The point is he is endorsing Obama based on race.
Obama has never tied McCain to terrorist, because there is no tie!!!!
As for you gun comment, what kind of bitch uses a .22? Obama supporters? Can\'t even handle a real weapon.
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Yes there are some that are voting cause he\'s black, but most blacks aren\'t...Obama is a smart, savy intelligent guy and he already showed that he can go neck and neck with McCain on foreign policy issues and he speaks with strong conviction and he also has a likability factor,...
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Obama is smart... :rofl:
Think Powell would have endorsed Hillary? Not a chance.
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:rofl:
Obama is smart... :rofl:
Think Powell would have endorsed Hillary? Not a chance.
Yep he is smart,..smarter than you and me,..and definitely smarter than Palin....Hillary isn\'t the nominee so that doesn\'t apply,...you chose to believe he supported Obama because of his skin, yet you refuse to accept his reasons why....what\'s the point if your mind already is made up?....riiight..there is no point.
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Yep he is smart,..smarter than you and me,..and definitely smarter than Palin....Hillary isn\'t the nominee so that doesn\'t apply,...you chose to believe he supported Obama because of his skin, yet you refuse to accept his reasons why....what\'s the point if your mind already is made up?....riiight..there is no point.
Speak for yourself. Most people are smarter than you. Being smarter than Palin? I am not so sure about that. Book smart and wise do not go hand in hand.
Powell\'s reasons are hollow and empty. They offer no real reason other than "I gotta say something before they link that I am supporting him based on race".
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For the record, Al Sharpton was never on either major party\'s ticket, so your theory just flew out the window.
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What is it with blacks? It is always race > country.
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What is it with blacks? It is always race > country.
I don\'t see a problem with a group of people sticking together that usually does not. It\'s almost refreshing in certain aspects. Blacks only stuck together long enough to be free and have been fighting amongst themselves since the 70\'s.
However, I do not think that color is the correct reason to cast a vote. It goes both ways though, but Im sure you already know that.
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Yes, I would have had no problem voting for Powell if he was on the Republican ticket. That isn\'t the point. The point is he is endorsing Obama based on race.
Obama has never tied McCain to terrorist, because there is no tie!!!!
As for you gun comment, what kind of bitch uses a .22? Obama supporters? Can\'t even handle a real weapon.
How can you even claim that Powell is supporting Obama based on race?
O yea......I forgot you were a mind reader b/c you always seem to put words in the mouths of myself and others. Keep reaching.
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Speak for yourself. Most people are smarter than you. Being smarter than Palin? I am not so sure about that. Book smart and wise do not go hand in hand.
Powell\'s reasons are hollow and empty. They offer no real reason other than "I gotta say something before they link that I am supporting him based on race".
How predictable... i knew you would say that...i was being sarcastic because of the comment you made of Palin being smarter anybody on this forum....and i\'m not gonna entertain the smarter than you comment....i don\'t mind that some are smarter or more knowledgeable than me in some area\'s....but i have alot more common sense than most....and i\'ll take that over bein einstein any day.
Say what you will of Powell, the fact remains that he is a strong distinguished leader in the republican party and support for the democratic nominee is almost a slap in the face to McCain, but that is what happens when your campaign is giving a different message every week...now McCain is calling Obama a socialist...he doesn\'t have a clue,...next week he just might ditch his campaign and ask if he can be Obama\'s VP...he\'s all over the place with his message.
For the record, Al Sharpton was never on either major party\'s ticket, so your theory just flew out the window.
And?.....he still vollied for the top nominee spot...and the fact remains that even then he did not have the full support of blacks,..he had very little...i remember his numbers being like 8% or something....again as much as he fought for blacks you\'d expect him to have full support from the afri american community...he didn\'t, so your statement above is irrelevant.
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Say what you will of Powell, the fact remains that he is a strong distinguished leader in the republican party and support for the democratic nominee is almost a slap in the face to McCain, but that is what happens when your campaign is giving a different message every week...now McCain is calling Obama a socialist...he doesn\'t have a clue,...next week he just might ditch his campaign and ask if he can be Obama\'s VP...he\'s all over the place with his message.
Powell was never a "distinguished" leader in the republican party. He wasn\'t elected to any office. McCain knew about his support for Obama back in August. Nothing new here.
Obama is a socialist... maybe even a borderline marxist. Look at his policies. Look at his associations. Look at his books! As for being Obama\'s VP... are you off your meds?
And?.....he still vollied for the top nominee spot...and the fact remains that even then he did not have the full support of blacks,..he had very little...i remember his numbers being like 8% or something....again as much as he fought for blacks you\'d expect him to have full support from the afri american community...he didn\'t, so your statement above is irrelevant.
He has full support from blacks, yet that isn\'t why he would win. Since you only make 12 percent of the voters it takes a lot of liberal white douche bags to prop him up. "Change" "Hope"... sound like mindless zombies.
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I don\'t see a problem with a group of people sticking together that usually does not. It\'s almost refreshing in certain aspects. Blacks only stuck together long enough to be free and have been fighting amongst themselves since the 70\'s.
However, I do not think that color is the correct reason to cast a vote. It goes both ways though, but Im sure you already know that.
Yet an all white group of people sticking together is a Klan Meeting right? This guy won\'t be my President. The more he screws up the better - and he will.
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Powell was never a "distinguished" leader in the republican party. He wasn\'t elected to any office. McCain knew about his support for Obama back in August. Nothing new here.
Obama is a socialist... maybe even a borderline marxist. Look at his policies. Look at his associations. Look at his books! As for being Obama\'s VP... are you off your meds?
Ok we\'re at a stalemate as far as Powell goes, tho i feel you\'re a bit sour over Powell\'s support of Obama since you\'re kickin\' dirt on him now and regardless of how you feel of Powell, he still is a distinguished and well respected figure in the republican party..and look at how fast you and others in the republican party have turned on him..with friends like that who needs enemies?...*receives spread the wealth check from Obama that was created thru Giga\'s & kennedy\'s paychecks*..:D.....as far as McCain bein\' Obama\'s VP...are you off YOUR meds?...anybody could see that i was bein\' sarcastic,....:rolleyes:
He has full support from blacks, yet that isn\'t why he would win. Since you only make 12 percent of the voters it takes a lot of liberal white douche bags to prop him up. "Change" "Hope"... sound like mindless zombies.
That\'s a negative and nobody said anything about winning......the argument was about sharpton having the full support from blacks during his run for the nominee,...he did not have full support.
Yet an all white group of people sticking together is a Klan Meeting right?
Nope... an all white group of people sticking together yelling racist rhetoric like the kind we\'ve seen outside McCain\'s rallys is.
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To sum this up..
Any black person who votes for Obama is voting because of race.
Any white person who votes for Obama is a white person wanting to be black or just trying to be cool and hip.
Thank you.
And by the way.
Yet an all white group of people sticking together is a Klan Meeting right? This guy won\'t be my President. The more he screws up the better - and he will.
If elected, he will be your President. It\'s one of those things. Just as much as I dislike President Bush, he has been my President for eight long years. So, yeah, if elected, President Obama for you.
Deal with it and move on.
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If elected, he will be your President. It\'s one of those things. Just as much as I dislike President Bush, he has been my President for eight long years. So, yeah, if elected, President Obama for you.
Deal with it and move on.
^^^^And yet another person that speaks with great wisdom and that other thing i mentioned..."COMMON SENSE".....:fro:
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To sum this up..
If elected, he will be your President. It\'s one of those things. Just as much as I dislike President Bush, he has been my President for eight long years. So, yeah, if elected, President Obama for you.
Deal with it and move on.
Wrong. He won\'t be my president.
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Owner believes car vandalized by Obama supporters.
Clearwater - CLEARWATER Frank Armstrong was preparing to go for a jog this morning when he noticed his Lexus – adorned with a McCain-Palin sticker - had been vandalized with obscenities and a burned American flag.
Armstrong discovered the damage to his 2006 Lexus about 8:30 a.m. at his Sand Key condominium at 1400 Gulf Blvd. Clearwater police and Armstrong said someone etched obscenities and "KKK" into the paint, burned several areas of the car with cigarettes, set the flag on fire on his hood and may have urinated on the vehicle. Officers and Armstrong think the car was singled out because of its political stickers, including one reading "Nobama."
"This is definitely a hate crime," said Armstrong, a 41-year-old physician.
Police estimated damage at $4,500. Police classified the incident as "criminal mischief/hate crime" and said it appeared "to be politically/racially motivated because the victim affixed a bumper sticker supporting the McCain campaign as well as an anti-Obama bumper sticker."
You really don\'t understand that Obama is dividing this country do you. We have a nutcase running for office who is supported by other nutcases so the latter feel they can break any law they want including pissing on the Constitution. They seem to think that with an Obama election it will be a pass to do whatever they want to a country they hate. Where would they get that idea? Ayers, Wright, etc...
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Owner believes car vandalized by Obama supporters.
Clearwater - CLEARWATER Frank Armstrong was preparing to go for a jog this morning when he noticed his Lexus – adorned with a McCain-Palin sticker - had been vandalized with obscenities and a burned American flag.
Armstrong discovered the damage to his 2006 Lexus about 8:30 a.m. at his Sand Key condominium at 1400 Gulf Blvd. Clearwater police and Armstrong said someone etched obscenities and "KKK" into the paint, burned several areas of the car with cigarettes, set the flag on fire on his hood and may have urinated on the vehicle. Officers and Armstrong think the car was singled out because of its political stickers, including one reading "Nobama."
"This is definitely a hate crime," said Armstrong, a 41-year-old physician.
Police estimated damage at $4,500. Police classified the incident as "criminal mischief/hate crime" and said it appeared "to be politically/racially motivated because the victim affixed a bumper sticker supporting the McCain campaign as well as an anti-Obama bumper sticker."
Hate crime clips... hate crime. You really don\'t understand that Obama is dividing this country do you. Another civil war? Who knows. I wouldn\'t want to be on your side though lol.
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Wrong. He won\'t be my president.
You live in America?
If so - yes he will be.
Get over it.
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You really don\'t understand that Obama is dividing this country do you. We have a nutcase running for office who is supported by other nutcases so the latter feel they can break any law they want including pissing on the Constitution. They seem to think that with an Obama election it will be a pass to do whatever they want to a country they hate. Where would they get that idea? Ayers, Wright, etc...
How in the world is Obama dividing the country?....just stop while you\'re ahead...he has not said anything to suggest that he will divide the country,...and he cannot control what these people do,..but then on top of that you say that the people that commited this crime did it because of Ayers & Wright?...:rofl:...i can\'t believe you just said that....damn giga i think you\'re a smart guy, but i\'m about to take that blond wig offa palin and give it to you....:D
Just because McCain & Palin as of late has been inciting his crowds with negative and hateful rhetoric, does not mean that Obama is doing the same...challenging someone\'s patriotism and saying he hangs around with terrorists is a sure way of distancing Obama from the rest of the country and ends up dividing the country....you keep trying to label him as a divider, when in truth he\'s brought more people together than the conservative base can ever imagine.
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Hey Giga, didn\'t you know?
If you don\'t support the president, that means you hate America.
Seems I heard that somewhere.... :rolleyes:
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Wrong. He won\'t be my president.
I\'ll be your president then. Shouldn\'t be too much of a stretch considering the fantasy world you live in now.
I\'ll get you out of those Republican bondage chains and out of the closet in no time.
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It\'s politics and the media that divides the country....
Clips, brought more people together than the conservative base could ever imagine?
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He who wields the sword will be King!--Merlin
Long Live THA KAING! (that\'s about as cockney accent as I can type it)
Oh ...and I welcome our canadian overlord.
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It\'s politics and the media that divides the country....
Clips, brought more people together than the conservative base could ever imagine?
*fixed it*...;)
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You people deserve a gold star for wading through this thread and to still be standing on this side of it. Congratulations.
Anyway, I\'m not racist, but let me sum up all blacks in one sentence..... :rolleyes: