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Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: GmanJoe on January 09, 2009, 06:35:06 AM
He\'s going to cut taxes, depriving fat lazy tards of free services. His stimulus package is going to cost 800 billion dollars.

Awesome. I can use that to pay off most of my home theater stuff.

:D

I like him already! Dems are a looking at each other thinking "WHAT THE FUCK?"
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on January 09, 2009, 10:05:21 AM
This is the best news I\'ve heard since he got elected.

He has no choice given the economy.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: clips on January 09, 2009, 10:34:25 AM
He\'s just doing what he said he would do during his campaign.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Eiksirf on January 09, 2009, 10:54:34 AM
I\'m all for less taxes, less spending and less debt. So, that\'s one and hopefully two out of three at least.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: GmanJoe on January 09, 2009, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: clips
He\'s just doing what he said he would do during his campaign.


McCain? Yes. He took McCain\'s advice or game plan. That copy cat! :mad:


:p
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: videoholic on January 09, 2009, 11:36:16 AM
I also thought it was funny when he chose his secretary of defense and when he started already backing out of pulling out of Iraq.  I also like his choice of preacher to swear him in.  that\'s awesome.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Jar O Pickles on January 09, 2009, 12:43:34 PM
it is kinda making big deal out of nothing but all the conservatives were worried he\'d go super left as soon as he got elected
but maybe he leaning more right so he can suck in and the republicans then when everyone is fat and happy he\'ll turn us into a socialst muslim state
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Living-In-Clip on January 09, 2009, 01:51:30 PM
Will spend mine on sex toys, strippers and maybe, if I get lucky, a fucking hooker. Because what else is there? There is only hookers that fuck, so I want a fucking hooker.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: videoholic on January 09, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
We weren\'t worried he\'d go super left.  We were worried that he would do what he promised.  So far he hasn\'t.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Coredweller on January 09, 2009, 03:48:16 PM
Quote from: videoholic
We weren\'t worried he\'d go super left. We were worried that he would do what he promised. So far he hasn\'t.
There\'s also the little fact that he\'s not president yet, and he hasn\'t done anything yet.
 
Just saying...
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: clips on January 09, 2009, 07:55:36 PM
The guy has ALOT on his plate....if he has to make changes for the better good of the country, so be it...over 2 million jobs wre lost last year with over 500,000 lost in december alone....the clowns in congress and even those from his own party are critcizng portions of his plan, yet they are offering nothing better.

They\'re just sittin\' around with their thumb up their ass worrting only about their own self interests. This democratic congress already has a low approval rating, if they show that they are incompetent and slow to pass an important piece of legislation, heads are going to roll in two years and the republicans will get their seats back, and those two idiots, harry reid and paulosi(spell) will have nobody to blame but themselves.

If they don\'t have anthing better to offer..shut the f**k up and pass the bill.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: videoholic on January 11, 2009, 04:26:59 AM
Quote from: Coredweller
There\'s also the little fact that he\'s not president yet, and he hasn\'t done anything yet.
 
Just saying...



I think it\'s the point of what he\'s done.  I realize he\'s not in office, but he has made appointments and given details on some of his economic package.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: luckee on January 11, 2009, 07:18:37 AM
Which is what any president elect does. :shrugs:
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: videoholic on January 11, 2009, 01:30:46 PM
They usually make appointments and proposals that are completely contradictory to what they ran on just weeks prior?  Right....
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: luckee on January 11, 2009, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: videoholic
They usually make appointments and proposals that are completely contradictory to what they ran on just weeks prior?  Right....


And that is not the argument you made one post above mine...right.....

He never made a contradictory appointment as he never disclosed anyone whom he would appoint if elected.

What proposals contradict what he ran on?
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: videoholic on January 12, 2009, 04:46:19 AM
He says there is going to be tax cuts for everyone but the rich, but now he is saying he can\'t increase taxes on the rich.  He bashes bashes and bashes about Iraq and how we should be out of there and now he keeps the same guy Bush has and realizes we aren\'t coming right out.

I\'m not bitching, I just think it\'s funny.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: cloud345 on January 12, 2009, 10:09:06 AM
To be fair he could be appointing people he has different views than. The president\'s cabinet shouldn\'t just be a bunch of yes men. There should be different views so the President can see things from other perspectives.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: luckee on January 12, 2009, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: videoholic
He says there is going to be tax cuts for everyone but the rich, but now he is saying he can\'t increase taxes on the rich.  He bashes bashes and bashes about Iraq and how we should be out of there and now he keeps the same guy Bush has and realizes we aren\'t coming right out.

I\'m not bitching, I just think it\'s funny.


He is still not the president yet. Damn give him time to fuck up at least.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Titan on January 12, 2009, 05:48:29 PM
Quote from: videoholic
He says there is going to be tax cuts for everyone but the rich, but now he is saying he can\'t increase taxes on the rich.  He bashes bashes and bashes about Iraq and how we should be out of there and now he keeps the same guy Bush has and realizes we aren\'t coming right out.

I\'m not bitching, I just think it\'s funny.


I kinda saw this coming in the election. This is one reason I didn\'t pay too much attention to this election like I did in 04. I started to realize that politics is too much rhetorical discourse and they were probably gonna flip flop on what they said anyway. They say what people want to hear to rally people to their cause. Talk is talk. I judge a politician based on their actions. Obama may have said a lot of rhetorical bullshit to win votes over to him but what he will do in the next 4 years in terms of the economy, the war, etc will really show how good a president he will be. I\'d rather have a president flip on a few things based on the needs of the country than do everything he promised. If he said he was going to pull the troops out of Iraq but it wasn\'t in the best interests of the country but he did it anyway and fucked stuff up even more, that shows poor judgement. It seems like he really does want what\'s best for the country and that gives me some hope for the next 4 years.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Paul2 on January 12, 2009, 06:52:00 PM
Well, at least he has the 7 Cs that I found important for a position as big as a president of the u.s.a.  Which are Confident, Courage, Calm, Cool, Charisma, Comfortable, and Collective.  Collective is the word I got from Hillary who describes Barack Obama beside Cool, and Calm.

he\'s also a great speaker too which is important too when socializing about anything with other, so other can understand clearly what he\'s talking about.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: videoholic on January 12, 2009, 07:13:21 PM
Quote from: luckee
He is still not the president yet. Damn give him time to fuck up at least.


I\'m not ragging him at all..  I\'m just laughing at the fact that he is pushing more towards not doing what he ran on and doing more of the likes of what McCain would have done.  Just a better speaker.  If you like that type of speak.  Turns me off, but to each his own.  I can\'t stand the preacher type.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Paul2 on January 12, 2009, 07:22:22 PM
Last year, I think the 3 remaining candidates Obama, Hillary, and McCain are all great speakers.  All 3 has charisma too, but I find Obama has more charisma than Hillary and McCain.  He seems cooler and calmer too.

Since I am not good at politics, I will just describe them from what I see.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Titan on January 12, 2009, 11:46:23 PM
I wouldn\'t think McCain was a very charismatic speaker.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Paul2 on January 13, 2009, 02:20:09 AM
I didn\'t say he\'s a charismatic speaker, I am saying he\'s great speaker.  On camera, he has some charisma, but Barack has more charisma than he does.  here is how I see it, Barack has the most charisma, then hillary, then McCain...

if you want to know how does that compare to our current president?  Well, lets take McCain who has the least charisma of the 3...I think McCain, although older than Bush but has a bit more charisma than Bush.  I think some people have better genes than other does.  I think being president has worn Bush down somewhat, the burden can be overwhelming sometimes.  Especially what happened on Sept 11, 2001.  The war in Iraq and Afghanistan has taking a strain on him.

I remember seeing him on tv during 9/11 talking to the country and that time, he seems to speak normally, then about a year and half later, when he announced about invading Iraq.  He seems to speak normally too.  Then a couple months later, during his one on one interview with some news reporter, i think he seems uncomfortable answering the interview questions.  On some questions, he actually remove the microphone on his shirt and wanted to walk away from the camera and back to his comfort zone which is his Texas ranch or something.  I only seen bits and pieces of here and there, so I don\'t really know how well he speaks.

I think in 2004 is when people start noticing Bush giving funny speeches, that time I didn\'t really pay attention.

Until late 2006 is when i notice his funny speeches moments on youtube.  In 2008 is when I noticed how bad it\'s on TV and didn\'t know it was that frequent either.  Even his top 10 moments posted on youtube was funny.  I realized maybe he\'s out of his comfort zone being in public with a bunch of people, being watched and videotape in public does makes him uncomfortable.  He travelled around the world giving speeches too, and he got nervous or something and does something strange here and there and messed up his speeches too.  But his one on one interview in late 2008, it seems like\'s a lot more comfortable and not as nervous as with standing in front of a lot of people.  So I guess he has some kind of stage freight or something.

Maybe before he was president, I think he was a lot more relax and brighter when he was governor of Texas as he don\'t have to be in public making speeches often and don\'t have to travel around the world giving speeches either.  the responsibility is also smaller too and there were no terrorist attacks and big war going on either during those time.  So he don\'t have carry the burden of the nation on him.

You know what, maybe I am just bored writing this long..I am tired, I am going to sleep now.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: videoholic on January 14, 2009, 05:20:03 AM
Well they all look great when you compare them to our current president.  Bush just needs to stay away from podiums.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Titan on January 14, 2009, 12:08:22 PM
You can definitely see being president has taken its toll on Bush. I feel bad for the guy really. He reacted how he best thought he should and for the countries best interests and he gets reamed in the media and everything and has become a laughing stock. I\'m sure he can\'t wait to get out of office. He even said he was stepping out of the public light. I wish I still had that article. I think its pretty noble of him too that he\'s trying to make things as easy as possible for Obama.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: clips on January 14, 2009, 08:08:22 PM
Bush actually wasn\'t that bad...i just hated him for going after saddam after the 911 tragedy....he had nothing to do with 911 and he wasted our military forces in a war that we should not have started in the first place. He\'s also hated in the world for his stubborness and arrogance.... his "my way or the highway" policies realy isolated the u.s. in terms of foreign policy relationships with other world leaders.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Eiksirf on January 15, 2009, 11:54:21 AM
Heh, clips, if that\'s the case, define "bad".
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Paul2 on January 16, 2009, 08:38:56 PM
I think his nervousness interferes with his life, and does affects a lot on his decisions making.  It makes him impulsive, the nervousness or anxiety that he has have become a distraction to him that it makes him lost his concentration of what he\'s doing and he couldn\'t do as good a job as he wanted to do.  It shows on one of his interviews, and on many of his speeches that he gave around the world.

I don\'t really know what causes him to be that nervous, but it\'s clearly that he\'s really uncomfortable being in the spotlight.

I think if his nervousness wasn\'t in the way, he would have make better decisions on many issues like more thoroughly, more polish out, and the results should have been better than what is already was.  Instead of being impulsive and want to get stuffs done quickly and get it out of way and move on.

One of his big and tough decisions that he made was the war in Iraq and I am not sure if it has anything with his nervousness, but that decision seem to be unpopular with the country and around the world too.  But like his speech he gave yesterday, you may not agree with some of the tough decisions that he had made, but hope that you can agree that he was willing to made with some of the tough decisions.

I feel kind of sorry for him too on how the war and being president has worn him out.
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: clips on January 16, 2009, 09:15:57 PM
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I feel kind of sorry for him too on how the war and being president has worn him out.


I don\'t feel sorry for him, this guy is going to retire with a ton of cash...he was counting down the days to get outta the white house,..within the last few weeks it was almost as if he was relieved....but i do agree that bein\' president is enough to stress the hell outta anybody, and i\'m sure obama will not be immune to this.

I\'ve seen pics of bush & clinton when they were in their last term of office with dark grey hair and by the time their presidency was up, their hair was snow white....bein the prez will age the s**t outta you quick.....yeah bein\' tha most powerful person in the world is nice, but i\'ll pass on that one....:p
Title: Obama is acting like a Republican.
Post by: Paul2 on January 16, 2009, 10:41:19 PM
Bill does age too, but he age a lot more gracefully than Bush though.  Bill is still sharp as ever, and again one of the greatest speakers too.

Bush on the other hand, had to dealt with 9/11 and the two wars.  He even said on the speech he gave last night that he could never recover after 9/11.  It seems like he couldn\'t handle under pressure and tough situations as well as other previous presidents did.

You can see that he doesn\'t age that gracefully, and he looks sad, worry, and he has the frown on his face.  His last speech he gave last night, he seems more relax and less sad, but could not hide years of stress on his face since the war.

Maybe when he retire, he would recover from his years of stress.