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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Mr. Kennedy on January 20, 2009, 09:18:55 AM
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Nobody started a thread. This might be a bigger show than the Superbowl. Let\'s see if he lives up to god-like imagery were shown on TV everyday.
All I have to say on this is...
Yay for more of the same! Change is just a word, nothing will change.
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Yay for more of the same! Change is just a word, nothing will change.
I\'m glad you can see into the future...you must have a kickass crystal ball at the crib...or did Ron Paul pay you to say that?
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Nobody started a thread. This might be a bigger show than the Superbowl. Let\'s see if he lives up to god-like imagery were shown on TV everyday.
All I have to say on this is...
Yay for more of the same! Change is just a word, nothing will change.
It\'s sad that you are hollow already at such a young age. If only you could believe in something greater than the cash in your wallet.
Obama is just a man. His strength is not in himself, but in the power he awakens in the american public. We all have work to do to correct the problems in our economy and the injustices suffered by those with fewer resources. Consider sacrificing some of your time, your labor, and maybe even a little of your money to support your fellow man.
On the other hand maybe you think there is no problem and you\'ll choose to do nothing. That is up to you.
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Nobody started a thread. This might be a bigger show than the Superbowl. Let\'s see if he lives up to god-like imagery were shown on TV everyday.
All I have to say on this is...
Yay for more of the same! Change is just a word, nothing will change.
if you\'re so certain nothing will change, why were you so against him? would expect a lot more indifference and not so much \'its the end of the world\' and \'we\'re going to be a socialist country now\'.
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nothing will change.
For example, your rhetoric.
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Mr. Kennedy is a heap of contradictions. Or maybe it\'s just doubletalk.
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I for one am glad my house payment isn\'t do until Friday so I just forwarded the bill to the white house.
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if you\'re so certain nothing will change, why were you so against him? would expect a lot more indifference and not so much \'its the end of the world\' and \'we\'re going to be a socialist country now\'.
Great point Viper
If only the media didn\'t beat this day into me every waking moment I\'d be able to enjoy it a little more.
Oh, and hahaha Vid
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I\'d be much more willing to donate my time/money/effort if the government didn\'t take it from me with the iron fist that they rule.
As for my indifference now as opposed to earlier. There\'s nothing I can do now, Obama is president for at least the next four years. If you look back in July I came here preaching how meaningless this election was. McBama was going to get elected one way or another.
Sorry for speaking my mind, apparently this kind of speak is prohibited under Obama\'s rule. Freedom... Liberty... now THAT is something I can believe in.
I\'ll just sit back and continue to make snarky comments, cause that\'s what I do. I have every right to now that our country is officially an obamanation.
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If only you could believe in something greater than the cash in your wallet.
C.R.E.A.M.
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I\'d be much more willing to donate my time/money/effort if the government didn\'t take it from me with the iron fist that they rule.
As for my indifference now as opposed to earlier. There\'s nothing I can do now, Obama is president for at least the next four years. If you look back in July I came here preaching how meaningless this election was. McBama was going to get elected one way or another.
Sorry for speaking my mind, apparently this kind of speak is prohibited under Obama\'s rule. Freedom... Liberty... now THAT is something I can believe in.
I\'ll just sit back and continue to make snarky comments, cause that\'s what I do. I have every right to now that our country is officially an obamanation.
Yes, because we prohibited you from speaking your mind :rolleyes:. Grow up. We have just as much of a right to call you out on your comments as you have making them.
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Brilliant.
If I were making complaints about Bush you\'d all be joining in with me.
Stop this "I take the high road" attitude.
Just because you don\'t agree with me doesn\'t make me wrong. Everyone thought the world was flat at one point, that doesn\'t make them right.
Whatever, I\'ll voice my opinion, and I welcome the backlash.
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It\'s not what you say, Kennedy, it\'s how and when you say it. Everyone here knows your views on Obama. Starting a thread to reiterate it now just sounds like trying to rain on the parade of those happy about this day.
Also, you know...criticize him once he does something wrong, not before he does. If you\'re already criticizing him, it detracts from your credibility when he actually does fuck up.
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Ok then.
I found his speech to be rather "stock". By that I mean it seemed like one cliche after another.
The poet was also annoying, could she have been any more monotone?
Other than that, no gripes yet. Just not getting my hopes up.
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I was half expecting someone to take a pop at him all through todays events for some reason, from the moment he appeared in public, to the very end when he entered the bulletproof glass booth. I was just aanticipating the bang then him slumping forward.
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Just shut up already.
That\'s my advice.
You\'re just a slightly less extreme version of Giga. Doesn\'t make you any less stupid tho\'.
Yay for more of the same! Change is just a word, nothing will change.
If that is the case - quit whining. No big changes you keep ranting about will happen. Make your fucking mind up. Either this nation is changing drastically or nothing is changing at all.
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I\'m glad this is all over so now I can stop hearing about how great this is and let the man be president for fucks sake.
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I was there today... very cool! Was cold as hell, but we met tons of cool people and actually got really close to the capital. I even spotted a celebrity walking around that nobody seemed to notice.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pV4Ij9rsSGw/SXZ5BHBYsxI/AAAAAAAAAVY/p6LsiQ_emBk/s1600-h/IMG_4926%5B1%5D (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pV4Ij9rsSGw/SXZ5BHBYsxI/AAAAAAAAAVY/p6LsiQ_emBk/s1600-h/IMG_4926%5B1%5D)
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I was there today... very cool! Was cold as hell, but we met tons of cool people and actually got really close to the capital. I even spotted a celebrity walking around that nobody seemed to notice.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pV4Ij9rsSGw/SXZ5BHBYsxI/AAAAAAAAAVY/p6LsiQ_emBk/s1600-h/IMG_4926%5B1%5D (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pV4Ij9rsSGw/SXZ5BHBYsxI/AAAAAAAAAVY/p6LsiQ_emBk/s1600-h/IMG_4926%5B1%5D)
Is that Samuel Jackson, or is that not the person I was supposed to be looking at? I agree it\'s hard to tell who they are. I have the same problem here in Hollywood. I often have to be close enough to hear their voice in order to be certain.
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yeah, it was Sam Jackson. With the 2 horse cop escort.
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It\'s sad that you are hollow already at such a young age. If only you could believe in something greater than the cash in your wallet.
Obama is just a man. His strength is not in himself, but in the power he awakens in the american public. We all have work to do to correct the problems in our economy and the injustices suffered by those with fewer resources. Consider sacrificing some of your time, your labor, and maybe even a little of your money to support your fellow man.
On the other hand maybe you think there is no problem and you\'ll choose to do nothing. That is up to you.
It is nice to see someone that gets it.
He has awoken a mass of people and encourage them.
My issue with that is, out of those, how many will sit and expect everything to happen on its own?
Part of the Obama popularity, is the fact that he can motivate people. Hitler was a great man in that aspect, if only the other half of his brain was in the rigth spot.
As happy as I am for Obama now, I feel very sorry for the problems he has to deal with immediately. I wonder how many will change their tune when there hasn\'t been a big difference in a years time.
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I was there too, so surreal to see huge crowds on 14th st
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Whether you were against him or for him, there\'s no denying how monumental today was....especially for afri. americans, but even moreso for the country...so instead of criticizing how nothing is going to happen, sit back and reflect on how far this country has come....I think that was the overall theme of today\'s swearing in, couple that with this happening after MLK\'s holiday and this event is even more significant.
The guy inspires alot of people... not black, not white, but americans... and apparently he\'s inspiring people all over the globe. He\'s not going to solve americas problems and the economy overnight, but i\'m willing to give him a chance...that\'s all anybody can do at the moment.
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I will agree, I\'ve never seen the nation with so much hope. I think he\'s inspired a lot of people so for that I applaud him. I just worry what this nation will turn into if he doesn\'t live up to expectations.
You guys take the glass half full approach, I\'ll take a more realistic approach.
I have nothing against Obama personally, its Obamamania I can\'t stand.
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My girlfriend runs a store at an Inner Harbor shopping mall and came home venting the other day about what was apparently more than a couple racist black women mouthing to her (she\'s white) throughout the day that "she\'s in for a rude awakening now" and "now you can see what it\'s like." People were passing through Baltimore by the bus load on their way to DC. Course, then they go on to make a mess and trash the store. Gum on the wall. Half eaten food mixed with the merchandise...
Worse, they were acting like that in front of their kids in some cases. It\'s disgusting behavior, but it\'s this population of ignorant people that are totally missing the point here.
I think it\'s a mistake to make this too much about race.
With his speech, Obama is in part trying to motivate people to help change the country for the better. My girlfriend wouldn\'t watch the inauguration because she knew those women were in the crowd and it made the whole thing seem hypocritical to her.
Instead of dwelling on the divisive race issue, people should be looking for ways to unite to help improve things, which is what Obama is looking for, in part. I think that\'s a good idea so I took the time to write to my governor and senator asking them to get the word out - tell people how they can help things.
Instead of leaving it at a cliche and a prayer, give the people something to act on. It\'s a chance for our elected officials to actually be good leaders. Hopefully we see some of that while Obama sits down to do what he can from the oval office.
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You guys take the glass half full approach, I\'ll take a more realistic approach.
Actually, at this point we\'re taking a kind of "glass is one-eighth full" approach.
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My girlfriend runs a store at an Inner Harbor shopping mall and came home venting the other day about what was apparently more than a couple racist black women mouthing to her (she\'s white) throughout the day that "she\'s in for a rude awakening now" and "now you can see what it\'s like." People were passing through Baltimore by the bus load on their way to DC. Course, then they go on to make a mess and trash the store. Gum on the wall. Half eaten food mixed with the merchandise...
Worse, they were acting like that in front of their kids in some cases. It\'s disgusting behavior, but it\'s this population of ignorant people that are totally missing the point here.
That\'s just stupid people being stupid. Any black person who thinks Obama is going to try to make this country better just for black people is ignorant, stupid, and completely missing the point of what being president of the united states is.
Hes not the president of black people.
Although some are acting that way.
Maybe I can pull a Kanye West now...
"Barack Obama does not care about white people".
heh.
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I agree with everything you\'re saying about race. I wish that we could just move past race being in issue in America, but people refuse to do this. I think programs like affirmative action only make things worse. Rather than create an even playing field it sets lower standards for minorities. How is that equal? We should be judging people on the content of their character, not the color of their skin, but in this country, if you\'re a minority you have at least a 10x better chance of getting into an elite college than a middle class white kid. Equality? I think not. Seems like retribution to me.
Moreover, why can\'t we just celebrate Obama becoming president? Why does race have to enter the picture? Why was every single significant African American interviewed on what it meant to them?
Am I glad we overcame slavery? You betcha! But that happened 144 years ago. Am I glad we granted civil rights to all citizens? Incredibly! But that happened 44 years ago. The fact of the matter we\'ve overcome all these things already and moved forward. It just angers me that we make such a big deal out of race these days when the whole point of civils rights was that it didn\'t matter what your skin color was. Nowadays it seems like, it doesn\'t matter what your skin color is, unless its beneficial to you.
I just find the entire situation to be incredibly backward. If we want unity and peace, making a big deal out of someone because of their skin color is not the answer. I never treated any of my black/latino/asian friends any different from my white friends. Racism has never been an issue for me because I don\'t believe in it. Let\'s move forward America, not backward.
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nothing to add to this thread.... but here\'s another pic I took
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and every street leaving looked like this after wards
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My girlfriend wouldn\'t watch the inauguration because she knew those women were in the crowd and it made the whole thing seem hypocritical to her.
I think your gf still should\'ve checked out the speech....those chickenheads she ran into was not representive of how all black folks feel about obama\'s swearing in, just like how those idiots at McCain/Palin rallys were not representive of all white folks.
Why was every single significant African American interviewed on what it meant to them?
While the election of Obama is huge for the country, it doesn\'t mean racism has ended and we can all hold hands and sing "cum-by-yah"....Racism is still alive and well and you seen and heard snippets of it throughout the campaign....it means alot because of america\'s dark past and it especially hits home for those older folks that were beaten or had to ride at the back of the bus back in the 50\'s and 60\'s etc....i even had a racial profiling incident as recent as 2003.
And nobody thought that we would see a black president in this lifetime if ever....I can\'t see why you\'re puzzled by the fact that alot of black folks feel very emotional about this....i for one am glad that we are becoming a country that is more tolerant of race relations....while all races came together to help obama become elected...i think the focus is that obama really could not have gotten elected without a substantial amount of the white vote...particularily the white youth, some older white folks voted as well but the white youth really came thru in this election.
And that speaks volumes in terms of how far the country has come and to where we are headed and it\'s really a good feeling. Again those black folks that feel Obama is going to or should have a black agenda is in for a rude awakening...Obama is and never was about that. I loved watching those people of all ethnic backgrounds in the crowd tear up at his inauguration....it shows that we are all americans regardless of race...nothing more...nothing less.
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I don\'t understand why people use the race card only when its to their benefit. Part of the reason racism exists is because you have that preconceived notion in your head that it does. Look around we have minorities represented at almost every job. In fact minorities get preference for many positions. The only people I hear use the "N" word is african americans themselves referring to each other. Yet if I use it, I\'m a racist.
I believed I\'d see a black president in this lifetime. Just like I think we\'ll see an asian, latin, and female president. Why? Because we broke those barriers a long time ago, not just when Obama was elected.
Also clips, how is making a big deal out of race helping the cause?
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Part of the reason racism exists is because you have that preconceived notion in your head that it does.
Did you not see snippets of it during the campaign?...yes you did, i\'m not making that stuff up, yes race relations are becoming better, but all i\'m saying is that it still exists.
Look around we have minorities represented at almost every job. In fact minorities get preference for many positions.
That sometimes can be a double-edged sword, i think it\'s great that minorities are getting jobs and by preference do you mean when a company has a quota to meet in terms of hiring miniorities? While i do feel companies should hire the best person for the job, the very fact that affirmitive action is in place shows that race still plays a role in hiring minorities. I\'m all for having the best guy for the job, but if a company doesn\'t hire a minority because of his race and he\'s clearly the better person, that\'s wrong.
On the flip side of that tho, if a company is just hiring a minority for the sake of going thru the motions and a quota to meet, that\'s not benefiting the said minority either.
Also clips, how is making a big deal out of race helping the cause?
I already answered this....black folks are emotional over this because of the history of america...again not only blacks feel this way...if you looked into the crowd, you saw asians, whites,latino\'s, Indian people crying and feeling extremely proud of what was taking place.....it just hits home a little bit more for black folks.....that jena 6 incident wasn\'t that long ago...that incident where a black man was dragged in the back of a truck on a dirt road until body broke apart wasn\'t that long ago either, and finally the incident that took place in W.VA where some hillbilly\'s kidnapped and tortured a black woman for about 3 weeks(they beat her, raped her, shaved her head and burned her with cigarette buds and stab her on a daily basis) all these incidents happened within the span of maybe 1 - 6 years ago. Again this is why black folks especially are emotional over this.
I\'m sure the racial impact of it will die down soon.....it just means alot for black folks to witness this event...just think of it this way, when the cardinals whoop the steelers ass at the SB you\'re going to hear the cards celebrate for a looong time, why? because that will be the clubs first ever SB appearance and win...almost symbolic as to what is happening on the presidential level.
The only people I hear use the "N" word is african americans themselves referring to each other. Yet if I use it, I\'m a racist.
No argument here..i agree 100%..i used to say that word in my youth, but not anymore...it\'s incredibly ignorant for black folks to say that to one another but want to scream racism when another group uses it.
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If we choose to live in the past we can never move forward.
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I think your gf still should\'ve checked out the speech....those chickenheads she ran into was not representive of how all black folks feel about obama\'s swearing in, just like how those idiots at McCain/Palin rallys were not representive of all white folks.
We talked about how those people weren\'t representative of the whole. Assholes being assholes and missing the point. I wish she\'d have watched it too, but that\'s not that big a deal, I explained to her some of the things he was saying and how I think if he can motivate people to do something themselves then he\'s being a better leader for doing it.
The more people who drink the kool aid and then start buying American or working double shifts when they can, spending their extra cash or whatever else, the better.
Also, sorry about the kool aid reference, I hope that wasn\'t insensitive. ;]
And since it came up, I have no problem with black people being interviewed on how it\'s meant a lot to them personally. People who have been shit on by racist sentiment, whether by an entire nation or just random inviduals throughout their lives, ought to be proud to see this as a symbol of our continuing progress in eliminating that kind of behavior. This goes back to assholes being assholes. :)
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I was there today... very cool! Was cold as hell, but we met tons of cool people and actually got really close to the capital. I even spotted a celebrity walking around that nobody seemed to notice.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pV4Ij9rsSGw/SXZ5BHBYsxI/AAAAAAAAAVY/p6LsiQ_emBk/s1600-h/IMG_4926%5B1%5D (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pV4Ij9rsSGw/SXZ5BHBYsxI/AAAAAAAAAVY/p6LsiQ_emBk/s1600-h/IMG_4926%5B1%5D)
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