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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on August 14, 2009, 09:19:40 AM
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Yep, i\'m finally building my house, its not the biggest thing in the world but its not to shabby, yay for me. :D
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in this economy?
;) j/k, woohoo! congrats. Post pics of it, vid style
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in this economy?
;) j/k, woohoo! congrats. Post pics of it, vid style
Just don\'t make the same shitty interior design choices that vid made.
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well, this is the start, 2 weeks into it.
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kick ass man, you better build yourself a nice guitar gear room
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I got 2 rooms for my fun stuff, a guitar room with sound proofing, also a theatre room with also sound proofing. (acoustic batts) I\'ve moved house atm, so everything is packed away, later tonight i\'ll get the house plans and post them.
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People who print dates on their pics should be euthanized.
Good luck and have fun.
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people that bitch that people print dates on their pics should be euthanized.
who gives a shit!
thnx. :)
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I do agree with vid on that one, the date is already in the exif data...
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well, this is the start, 2 weeks into it.
So where are you putting the box?
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box?
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I do agree with vid on that one, the date is already in the exif data...
If you want another perspective, the average Joe or Jane is not going to look at the EXIF data. Date oh the photo can serve as a quick reminder when it was taken, at least when you\'re looking back on it in 50 years.
But by then all that chit will probably be viewed on a slim LCD screen anyway, with the details easy to find. :p
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you could be like me and put future dates on there and tell everyone you went to the future to take them
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you could be like me and put future dates on there and tell everyone you went to the future to take them
JOP not only do I find that unethical but also a gross misrepresentation of the art of photography. Although JOP wants nothing less than to create some feral, pseudo-psychological profile of me to discredit my opinions, I want this letter to speak a language of reconciliation, not retaliation. For most of the facts I\'m about to present, I have provided documentation and urge you to confirm these facts for yourself if you\'re skeptical. In any case, there is something in the way of "natural law" that can be stated awkwardly as follows: "JOP lives in a world of privileged emotion devoid of any connectable empirical dots." Please do not quote me on that. Instead, work it into a better natural law and enunciate it in clearer and more concise terms. It is immaterial who is credited with the words; the objective is to discuss the relationship between three converging and ever-growing factions—pusillanimous jackanapes, vitriolic talebearers, and unprofessional yahoos.
If the human race is to survive on this planet, we will have to tell it like it is. All this aside, no one likes being attacked by cold-blooded wastrels. Even worse, JOP exploits our fear of those attacks—which he claims will evolve sometime soon into biological, chemical, or nuclear attacks—as a pretext to call evil good and good evil. If you think that\'s scary, then you should remember that I am not predicting anything specific. I just have a feeling, an intuition, based on several things that are happening now that JOP will take us over the edge of the abyss of snobbism faster than you can say "heterochromatization".
If we let JOP waffle on all the issues, then greed, corruption, and onanism will characterize the government. Oppressive measures will be directed against citizens. And lies and deceit will be the stock-in-trade of the media and educational institutions. A few days ago, he actually admitted that he wants to convince impressionable young people that he\'s merely trying to make this world a better place in which to live. Can you believe that? Perhaps JOP forgot to take his antipsychotics that day. An additional clue is that we mustn\'t be content to patch and darn, to piece and cobble at the worn and rotten fabric of his uncouth animadversions. Instead we must pronounce the truth and renounce the lies. That\'s all I have time now to write. If you want to get more insight into JOP\'s mentality, though, then study the details of his scare tactics. Try to see the big picture: It will clearly amaze you. It will take your breath away. And it will convince you that JOP has abandoned ethics altogether.
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box?
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JOP not only do I find that unethical but also a gross misrepresentation of the art of photography. Although JOP wants nothing less than to create some feral, pseudo-psychological profile of me to discredit my opinions, I want this letter to speak a language of reconciliation, not retaliation. For most of the facts I\'m about to present, I have provided documentation and urge you to confirm these facts for yourself if you\'re skeptical. In any case, there is something in the way of "natural law" that can be stated awkwardly as follows: "JOP lives in a world of privileged emotion devoid of any connectable empirical dots." Please do not quote me on that. Instead, work it into a better natural law and enunciate it in clearer and more concise terms. It is immaterial who is credited with the words; the objective is to discuss the relationship between three converging and ever-growing factions—pusillanimous jackanapes, vitriolic talebearers, and unprofessional yahoos.
If the human race is to survive on this planet, we will have to tell it like it is. All this aside, no one likes being attacked by cold-blooded wastrels. Even worse, JOP exploits our fear of those attacks—which he claims will evolve sometime soon into biological, chemical, or nuclear attacks—as a pretext to call evil good and good evil. If you think that\'s scary, then you should remember that I am not predicting anything specific. I just have a feeling, an intuition, based on several things that are happening now that JOP will take us over the edge of the abyss of snobbism faster than you can say "heterochromatization".
If we let JOP waffle on all the issues, then greed, corruption, and onanism will characterize the government. Oppressive measures will be directed against citizens. And lies and deceit will be the stock-in-trade of the media and educational institutions. A few days ago, he actually admitted that he wants to convince impressionable young people that he\'s merely trying to make this world a better place in which to live. Can you believe that? Perhaps JOP forgot to take his antipsychotics that day. An additional clue is that we mustn\'t be content to patch and darn, to piece and cobble at the worn and rotten fabric of his uncouth animadversions. Instead we must pronounce the truth and renounce the lies. That\'s all I have time now to write. If you want to get more insight into JOP\'s mentality, though, then study the details of his scare tactics. Try to see the big picture: It will clearly amaze you. It will take your breath away. And it will convince you that JOP has abandoned ethics altogether.
i\'m broke, got shit for cash in my pocket, my horse left me, i had to put my wife down because she broke her leg, the sherrif\'s my brother AND my father, and i have absolutely no gas left
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box?
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.browardpalmbeach.com%2Fjuice%2Fassets_c%2F2008%2F12%2Fbox-house-thumb-400x300.jpg&hash=a9702e2ee0043b26f85def4e347bd4f4ab13b324)
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thats one hell of a box.. How much?
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(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.browardpalmbeach.com%2Fjuice%2Fassets_c%2F2008%2F12%2Fbox-house-thumb-400x300.jpg&hash=a9702e2ee0043b26f85def4e347bd4f4ab13b324)
When was that photo taken?
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So when\'s the thing supposed to be fully built?
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by end of year or early next year.. Aiming for end of year.
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thats one hell of a box.. How much?
This what i keep tellin\' gmans sister...she\'s got a big-ass cooch!
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Week 3 of the adventure..
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We wouldn\'t let our guys do any inside walls until the roof was on. The wood you see sitting there will warp like a mother fucker if they don\'t get it up and covered quickly. We got to the point where we wouldn\'t let them bring bundled wood and went to home depot and picked the boards out ourselves. You will be amazed at how many waves you can see in the drywall from boards being warped just a fraction of an inch.
Also surprised you don\'t have to use 2x6 on load baring walls. In FL pretty much everything is block since it\'s less to worry about with termites.
You guys don\'t use green pressure treated boards there? Here you can\'t touch concrete with a non pressure treated board. Or do you guys just treat the boards differently than here in the states?
I have to tell you, layout is fucking huge if you are doing tile. We went through and had to adjust so many walls at night after the guys came through and put them up. just a quarter inch can totally fuck you up. We still ended up with one wall about a quarter inch off and when we went to put cabinets in it was too tight. We had to bang the shit out of the wall to shift it over.
My father is extremely meticulous though which is very annoying, but my tile guy was sure happy.
Try and post the layout. cool to see. Building a house sucks. Are you doing it owner/builder or do you have a contractor?
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That\'s a good look souly!...:thumb:...and Vid is right as far as those wood planks are concerned...the weather and rain can put a hurtin\' on them if they\'re left exposed....i\'ve seen alot of builders leaving their equipment and boards exposed like that.
The builder makes a world of difference too...One house in a newly created sub-division down here just callapsed (this was when i was still searchin\' for a home in georgia)...well one wall in the home just buckled...the boards and frame were protruding thru the wall...city inspectors came in and fined the builders and told them to make the proper adjustments asap! It also didn\'t help that this particular house was being built on a cliff.
It was kinda weird..they built the home right on the edge where the slope of the hill goes down..they created a slab of concrete on he slope which was the basement and i assume to support the house as well, but if you would\'ve the seen the house you would\'ve stated what n the world are they thinking buliding a house on a slope like that...the deck itself even had it\'s planks going into the slope of loose dirt...it\'s kinda hard to explain, but overall it was just really dumb for the builder to place a home on that slope..it\'s no wonder the home had buckling problems.
Aggh...that said tho...good luck with the home souly...:fro:
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The frame isn\'t built there, they basically pre-fab the frame else where then put it up as a kit, then the roof. They do it pretty fast and we\'ve been getting pretty good weather, in fact we\'re in a pretty long dry streak atm. It rained a little last week but it worked in our favour because it helped cure the slab. As for the wood warping, its kiln dried. So it doesn\'t absorb moisture.
Also, the builders we’re using are pretty decent builders, we have a contractor and we’re involved in every strange. If we find something wrong, they fix it. Basically they will have to make sure the walls are square because it’ll cost them money if they don’t do so. My miss’s works for a house evaluation company, so we get loads of freebies and help.
I\'ll post the floor plan tomorrow after work, i have to get the contract out of my garage, we moved recently and i\'ve packed away my floor plan.
The wet areas are tiled, rooms will have plush carpets and all the rest of the house will be vinyl (woodgrain) Should be great. :D
My biggest worry is the materials getting stolen, we\'re covered for it. (builder has full insurrence on stolen / damaged goods) but it will hinder building time. They\'re supposed to have temp fencing up to prevent it. Morons don\'t seem to have done it yet :mad:
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Phil can go F himself, vid\'s house is the shit.
congrats, soully.
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Phil can go F himself, vid\'s house is the shit.
congrats, soully.
Nothing against Vid but.....really?
http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40180&highlight=videoholic
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it looks way better in natural lighting, and besides, that\'s the tv his wife is forced to watch, since Vid and his older son have big TV monopoly....
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Ooohh poor vids wife having to sit in the bar and watch the 46\'\' big screen. Yeah my heart bleeds for this woman.
lucky bastards..
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My tv is nothing like the Chizz\'s. That bitch just got a smokin set.
And Soully, a buddy of mine built his house this same way with letting them build the walls before the roof and his are extremely fucked up. Just keep your eye on them. If they are bowed, make them fix it!!!
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Ooohh poor vids wife having to sit in the bar and watch the 46\'\' big screen. Yeah my heart bleeds for this woman.
lucky bastards..
Luck has nothing to do with it...
and yes, I am loving the new TV!
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Congrats! :D
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Luck has nothing to do with it...
and yes, I am loving the new TV!
haha when I made that post I turned to my gf and said Vid was going to point out how its not luck
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hey guys, right now i won\'t be posting future updates of the house, depending on how the next few months go i\'ll explain everything later. Right now things just aren\'t going good for me and i won\'t be posting any time soon.
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sucks to hear buddy, hope everything works out for you.
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hey guys, well this is whats happened.
I\'ve been with my gf for about 10 years now and
We’re building a house together; when it was finished I was going to ask her to marry me. I thought everything was going good. She recently split from me telling me she loves me but isn\'t IN love with me.
I\'m having trouble moving forward because all I can do is think of her and what went wrong. She never spoke to me about the problems she was having with me but told other friends that she tried. I know I’ve made big mistakes and took advantage of her, asking her to do things that I could have done, but she didn’t say no. I didn’t realize it was such a big issue. I also did things for her too.
What I’m struggling with is the she\'s broken up with me 3 times now. First time when we were young she called me and asked me to come over to her house and if I didn\'t, I didn\'t love her. Of course I got upset and went straight to her house.
A few years pass and everything was going great, I go around to her aunts house and she’s crying in the driveway telling me that she doesn\'t love me anymore, which gets me upset and she turns around saying why didn\'t u tell me how u felt and again, we get back together. (I tell her I love her every single day)
The last time we go to Philip Island to a motel and there\'s a spa bath that’s dirty. She got upset about it and I cleaned it thinking that would be good enough for her. In hind sight I know now I should have complained to management because that’s what she wanted. Anyway, the rest of the weekend I thought went ok and we get back to home. A few days later she\'s upset telling me she not in-love with me anymore but she still loves me, during this she\'s crying and I’m thinking how she can possibly believe what she’s saying while crying. A week passes and she turns around and says forget about last week, that she was just emotional and that she does love me still. We start to build a house together; She tells me that she doesn’t feel butterflies anymore when we kiss, I always thought that happens only during the courting stage of a relationship and as time passes. It becomes much deeper, a partnership, bond etc.
Anyway i’m thinking everything is going great. I\'m waiting at her house waiting for her to come home so we can go out for dinner. She walks in basically telling me again, she’s not in love with me and its over while still being upset. I couldn\'t feel anything, but at the same time I felt everything.
She\'s been talking to a mutual friend finding out how i feel, if I’m ok but at the same time she\'s just as upset as I am. I can’t understand how are even at this point when I love her more then anything in the world and she must be feeling the same.,
I know I’ve done things wrong and she has too. Example would be if I was going out with mates I’d ask her if she minds, she\'d say no go for it. But I felt she did mind and yet still went... All she had to say to me was no, and I would have stayed with her. She’s had lots of problems in her past which I won’t go into and I’ve stayed with her the entire time. Most guys would have run for the hills. She’s asked for time to think things through, she’s moved out of her home to get away from her family (or so i\'ve been told) and has cut communication totally off from me. I’m finding it the hardest thing in my life to cope with. I miss her; I can’t touch her, talk to her. It’s almost like she’s dead and I feel there’s nothing I can do to get her back, when all I want to do is fight to get her back I’m finding it hard to think, even when I walk I feel like I’ve been hit with a sledge hammer and I’m always in a dazed state. If I could turn back time I would change everything. I just need that chance from her to prove it. My family is part of the reason this happened and so is hers.
I just wished they all stayed out of it and left us alone. So now i\'m going to be in debt after the house gets sold. The worst part of all of this is lisa never even gave me a chance to make up for whatever i\'ve done. She didn\'t even try. Her father told me to give her space and let her figure out herself but she\'s emailed me messages saying its over and at the same time, was talking to our mutural friend as if she was trying to patch things up.. As far as i\'m concerned she\'s cheating on me and is to gutless to face me or her father and tell the truth.
Signs of this were she cut her hair, her attitude totally changed from being lisa to a totally different person, she complained that i didn\'t try to have any involvement in building the house and when i started she got upset saying that i could piss off the builders and they\'d get angry and stop building.. it was over temp fences which weren\'t up..
we both decided that when the frame was finished i\'d call if there still wasn\'t a fence done.. She then turned around and asked why i wasn\'t sitting close to her, so of course i pulled her close to me. I just can\'t understand whats going on, she wanted space and i did sms and email her a lot, not giving her that space, so she may have just got angry and replied with those breakup emails.. I donno, i\'m giving her her space but without her communicating to me at all tells me that shes already moved on and is most like rooting someone else behind my back.
any ideas?
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SHe sure sounds immature to me.
Building a house is by far the most stress you will ever have to go through To have bull shit like washing a bathtub and sitting too far even entering your mind is completely ridiculous. You can\'t possibly tell me she\'s over 18 with how you are presenting her actions.
Building a house is an adult thing to do. Tell her to quit being an immature bitch and grow up. I haven\'t gotten butterflies kissing my wife in years. That doesn\'t mean I don\'t love her. She is the greatest thing to ever happen to me. We are partners in a lifetime of fun. If my wife ever once went off on me for something stupid I never would have married her.
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its over dood, she won\'t even talk to me, told her dad i\'m a liar and basically said i was a bully... if i was all this shit was true she would have never gotten involved with me for 10 years and basically pushed me into building the house.. which was her idea and once i started working FT we started to save for it. She\'s basically screwed me over..
shes 28 dood... same age as me... and all this bs has happened through her dad or emails.. she hasn\'t even had the guts to tell me to my face its over.. She said it once, then said she needed time to think things through, so i was giving it to her. Everything else after that was through emails and her dad.. I just wished i fucked her off years ago when she first started the emotional blackmail shit.. I don\'t derserve that, i\'m a good person and have never done anything to her to deserve this.. We\'ve been through everything together and for her to end it like this is just fucken bullshit. Atleast now i\'ve gotten closure and can move on, thank god i don\'t have kids to her, i never thought i could go from pure love to pure hatred within a day... I basically hate this chick now and even if she wanted me back i\'d most likely tell her to fuck off.
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wow. i never have a love relationship before so i don\'t know what to say but that is quite a story and she sure does have emotional problems.
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I\'m also starting to wonder if shes had some kinda breakdown. She had a lot of pressure from building the house, work itself, from me, and looking after her aunts kids. So saturday i\'m going to her place to take my stuff back, i\'m hoping she\'ll be their so i can try and talk it out with her and salvage this relationship. It was just to out of left field. She said it was months coming but i didn\'t expect a breakup, she was starting to break down and go up and down with emotions all the time. I donno why, i\'m thinking its from all the pressure. So i\'ve decided on saturday if she\'s their i\'ll talk it out with her, if she wants too. If shes not, its over.
Maybe a few weeks down the track she\'ll want to get in touch with me when she sorts herself out and then we can talk if i\'m not at a point where i\'m over it. who knows. But bascailly i\'ll be moving on with my life if shes not their saturday when i go to pickup my stuff.
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Sad to hear it. To be with someone that long and to get screwed over like that is definitely wrong. Now what?
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well, latest chapter is my parents rang her work (she works for a company that does house evaluations) to get copies of all the shit to do with the house, she basically abused my mother through a workmate (couldn\'t do it herself) and message me telling me that my mother is to never call her at work again. Its my legal right to have those docs, she had no right what so ever to tell me that or even talk to my mother like that.. My parents let her live with us for 2 years for fuck sake.. what the fuck!
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wow. Would love to hear her side of the story.
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My first thought that was she\'s being immature, too. The whole no-more-tingles and love-but-not-in-love things, the hair and attitude change, and the mood swings all remind me of what I went through with my first serious girlfriend. That was the end of a 2 year relationship.
It sounds like salvaging this one might not work out, but after 10 years no one would blame you for trying. It hurt like hell and messed me up, but after my bad break up I finally moved on and after a few years I saw a few things in myself worth changing and eventually found someone who was more into me as I am, not as I was or could be.
Really, you deserve a relationship that doesn\'t put you on this punishing (and bullshit) emotional rollercoaster. Whether that happens with this girl or someone new down the road, I hope you end up with it.
Good luck with the house. Try to find a way to turn up a profit or something. Maybe with an ad for a roommate or two, you can afford to finish it and check your options from there...?
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wow. Would love to hear her side of the story.
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u never will man, she wouldn\'t have the guts to say anything, if she did it would be all bullshit. No one just throws away 10 years of a relationship while building a house within a span of a few days.. its just retarded. I\'m still upset, but i\'m at a stage where i hate her now and she hasn\'t dared try to contact any of our mutural long term friends, she\'s made no effort what so ever to even try to resolve this, she\'s bullshitted through friends, i even spoke with one of them today and this is what was said, this was daniel the mate that barely knows our relationship and shouldn\'t have ever even gotten involved.
[6:14:04 PM] Daniel Bodley: you there
[6:18:44 PM] Nathan Ross: yes
[6:18:56 PM] Daniel Bodley: hows things
[6:19:10 PM] Nathan Ross: lisa and I aren\'t together, she didn\'t even try to get back together with me
[6:19:31 PM] Daniel Bodley: is that what you wanted to tell me last night
[6:19:43 PM] Nathan Ross: i want to know what EXACTLY she told you man, because i\'ve been rackin my brain trying to figure out i\'ve meant to have done wrong?
[6:20:19 PM] Daniel Bodley: As I said, I told you everything.
[6:20:22 PM] Nathan Ross: she even emailed me saying she didn\'t send u to daniel to help us sort it out, that u were sent to me to help me get through this
[6:20:30 PM] Nathan Ross: i can\'t remember man, i was to emotional.
[6:21:21 PM] Nathan Ross: rigth now i\'m still fucked up.. i feel nothing and tomorrow i\'ll be worse.
[6:21:27 PM] Daniel Bodley: She said that becuase she felt guilty for getting me involved, she appologies to me for that.
[6:21:51 PM] Nathan Ross: what did she say was the reasons for leaving me?
[6:21:57 PM] Nathan Ross: she won\'t even talk to me face to face
[6:22:01 PM] Nathan Ross: at all
[6:22:15 PM] Nathan Ross: it was, nathan i lvoe u, 3 days later.. nathan i don\'t love u
[6:22:38 PM] Nathan Ross: and we\'re in the middle of building a house man
[6:22:55 PM] Nathan Ross: why would she go into this if she had doubts in our relationship.
[6:23:20 PM] Nathan Ross: she told her dad i was a bully and a liar.
[6:23:23 PM] Nathan Ross: she\'s abused my mother.
[6:23:53 PM] Nathan Ross: did u just send a message?
[6:24:29 PM] Daniel Bodley: no
[6:24:30 PM] Nathan Ross: and why did she go to you, and not talk to me directly? did she want to sort this out or not?
[6:24:47 PM] Daniel Bodley: I cant get involved she and you have to work it out mate, it really upset me last time and I am not up for getting into it again.
[6:25:08 PM] Daniel Bodley: I don\'t think I helped anyway
[6:25:10 PM] Nathan Ross: i\'m not getting back with lisa man, its over.. she won\'t even talk to me..
[6:25:24 PM] Nathan Ross: i just want to know if she wanted your help to sort this out
[6:25:43 PM] Daniel Bodley: She was open to it deffinetly
[6:26:06 PM] Nathan Ross: well, if she was open to it, why did she cut me out completely.. and not even attempt to talk to me.
[6:26:07 PM] Daniel Bodley: not liaing
[6:26:10 PM] Nathan Ross: i got this email man
[6:26:29 PM] Nathan Ross: Hi Nathan,
I am sorry that you are confused by the situation. I told you a week ago that I am walking away from this relationship and I meant it. The girl you love is no longer here she is gone. You have broken her and like the phoenix she has risen from the ashes a new and stronger woman. I care about your well being but, there is no room in my heart for you. We are not good for each other. With my people pleasing and your demanding we were domed to fail. The only thing I can tell you is that I am moving on and you should do the same. We will have to communicate about the house but that is the only contact I will have with you. The house can be sold after the 6 month grant period is up and then we can go our separate ways.
I wish you nothing but the very best for the future and all the happiness life has to offer.
[6:27:14 PM] Daniel Bodley: Pehaps she is not copping
[6:27:17 PM] Nathan Ross: thats what she sent me.. does that sound like she wanted to sort anything out
[6:27:28 PM] Nathan Ross: she told her dad to tell me to basically fuck off too
[6:27:51 PM] Nathan Ross: to forget about her was his words.
[6:27:55 PM] Nathan Ross: i even sent her flowers man
[6:28:04 PM] Nathan Ross: shes made no attempt to resolve this at all
[6:28:07 PM] Daniel Bodley: Flowers are good
[6:28:45 PM] Daniel Bodley: You sure she doesn\'t just need more time?
[6:28:58 PM] Nathan Ross: she told me, a few weeks before we broke up, that she was "not in love with me" and then the next week, she was inlove with me.
[6:29:31 PM] Daniel Bodley: you must remeber I was only there for 1 day I can\'t remember everything either
[6:29:32 PM] Nathan Ross: read the email i just sent to u... it says it all there... she sent u to me to help me through this time.
[6:30:11 PM] Nathan Ross: heres the one saying about u.
[6:30:12 PM] Nathan Ross: Hi Nathan,
I sent Daniel to you because I know you would need a friend to talk to. You told him to go away so that\'s that. As for me and you the only communication between us will be in regards to the house. Please understand this has been coming for a long time and it is no ones fault we are not right for one another. There is nothing more to say.
[6:30:20 PM] Daniel Bodley: Well she is saying somthings and not other things, I didn\'t lie or hide anyhting she said
[6:31:07 PM] Nathan Ross: i\'m not saying u are.. i\'m sayign she was playing us man.. she had no intention of resolving this, otherwise she wouldn\'t have sent those nasty emails to me
[6:31:55 PM] Daniel Bodley: I really am so sorry for both of you mate, I tried to helpl.
[6:32:14 PM] Nathan Ross: she has never set a time to meet with me and talk this out, i\'m getting my stuff from her place on saturday..
[6:33:05 PM] Daniel Bodley: Well I hope when things calm down she will give you the talk you need. I have to go mate, dinner.
[6:33:09 PM] Daniel Bodley: seeya
[6:33:24 PM] Nathan Ross: like i said man, i don\'t want her back, she has done this to me 4 times now
[6:33:32 PM] Nathan Ross: seeya
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so in a nut shell to me, she was playing the "innocent" game with her dad and daniel and when i told daniel to stay out of it she basically turned around and told me to fuck off, it was all a ploy, we have much closer friends she could have gone too, but she choice the person i see the least, i mean say once every 2 - 3 months if that.. when we have friends we see fortnightly.. makes no sense to me. maybe she just reacted thinking i\'m cutting her off, but she knows me, and she could have easily picked up the phone by now and called me. She\'s basically not only screwed me, but herself.. and probably doesn\'t even realise it. 10 years together, for nothing.. start to build a house, get ready for marrage.. and she just goes nope... when at first it was her that was more into it then me... i did it for her when i felt i was ready..
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Damn..man, sorry to hear this news. I can understand you still wanting to be with her after so many years, but why would she bail out right in the middle of having a house built?..that is a HUGE responsibility. I also gotta say that no relationship requires alot of effort to make it work...if you find yourself in a relationship that takes alot to get it going, it most likely isn\'t worth it.
Hopefully you\'ll pull a profit from the house when it\'s built and you can be out of her life for good....trust....you will meet that person that is right for you and she won\'t be a headcase like your soon to be ex....i know it might sound corny, but the sooner you move on and forget about her the sooner you\'ll eventually end up meeting that woman that\'s right for you.
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thats the thing that shocking me the most, we didn\'t have much effort in our relationship, atlesat i think we didn\'t. She had a lot of pressure on her though, i think it just got all to much for her and she\'s decided to do this. If i didn\'t build the house we wouldn\'t be together, I build the house and we\'re still not together.. it just makes no sense to me.
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i think again she might have some emotional problems going on that make her all over the places. Is she in some sort of depression, anxiety, or something? You said she had a lot of pressure on her, maybe she put a lot of pressure on herself and sounds like she\'s in some sort of anxiety disorder.
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who knows, but its happened... i can\'t change her mind and to be honest, if she was having a breakdown you\'d think i\'d be the first person she\'d talk to. I have this feeling her work mates have been mind fuckin her and basically shes taken in a lot of bs and believed it, while being under all this pressure. Maybe she\'ll snap out of it and realise what she has done, maybe not... Tomorrow i get my stuff back from her house. Funny how within a few weeks it can be the most exciting time in my life, to the worst time in my life... Most of my mates are saying better now then when u had kids, but still. I trusted her and gave everything i had, when a house isn\'t enough and thats what she wanted the most for us to move our relationship forward, she does this. I thought i knew her, i guess not.
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I know its hard and you have been with her for 10yrs. Who would want to start over being single after ten years. But man you got to do what is right. Move on and continue to focus on what is important to you.
I know marriages that don\'t last for 10yrs. I guess you have to take it as a lesson learned and if I were you Souly I would let her come to me. If she wants to get back with you and really loves you she will come to you. Honestly after all this could you see yourself getting back her? Getting married and having this happen to you ten years later with 2 kids and at the age of 38? She is the one who is breaking up with you. I know it\'s hard and you want to no the reason why. But man I would talk to her as if that\'s all I want to no is why and not get back into a relationship.
If you do someway convince her and you guys get back together how long do you honest think before she does this too you again? Trust me dude I know how it feels to have the best thing and the worst thing happen to you in a matter of weeks. All you do is go back and think of ways you could have changed things. At the end of the day you have too look at it as if its not your fault and you had good intentions.
I know you love her and 10yrs is long and hard to let go. But man I learned in my past you never really no the other person like you think you do. Women are like that man. The fact that she is taking advice from others and not working things out with you show the BS right there. Hey man its your life and I wish you the best.
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Damn, sorry to hear all that Souly. Hope you start feeling better soon pal.
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Well, i spoke with her today, (went to her house to get my shit back)
she basically told me she\'s not in love with me anymore, that our Phillip island trip was to get the "romance" back and when we started to build the house she realized that she couldn\'t be with me, she was excited about the house but then she snapped and figured out that "us" wouldn\'t work. Her own mother told her the butterflies don\'t last forever.
Anyway, during our talk she told me she was going to rent out a place and live on her own. Problem with that is how she can afford to rent and pay off the house at the same time. I knew pretty much right then that she\'s cheated (cheating) and really didn\'t care for anything she had to say to me after that.
I felt a huge release on my shoulders, like I’ve just dodged a bullet. She did say some things that say she isn\'t cheating too, but I dunno, if I can\'t trust her "fuck her" she said she feels alone at night, as do I, that on weekends she rolls over expecting me to be their but I’m not, which is how I feel. She told me she’s doing taekwondo with some dood at her work, but when I asked her to do it with me she had no interest. Speaks words to me, could be that dood she’s with now, donno.
She said when i came to her house she wanted to see if she felt anything for me, but she didn\'t so it confirmed it in her mind that she didn’t feel anything for me.. I hugged her and really, didn\'t feel anything too. It’s almost like she\'s fucked me over that much that I just don\'t have any trust of feelings for her anymore.
She said she\'d allow my mate Michael to buy out her half of the house after the 6 months grant period is up, that she\'d pay half for the driveway to be done, fencing and front landscaping. Then Michael could pay her out. Which hopefully happens. Because I’m tired of living at home with my parents and was so happy this was happening with lisa. Even so, she may feel nothing now, if she isn\'t cheating on me, she may start to realise what she had and now it’s gone. By that time (even now really) I won\'t want her back.
She said stuff like I was doing this house for her, yet every time she said "my house" I corrected her and said no.. "Our" house. So I came to the conclusion in her twisted mind she thinks there\'s better out there and maybe there is.. But I REALLY feel sorry for the next poor bastard that gets stuck into her web. She did push me into the whole house thing, but i did start to want it as much as she did.. Hopefully michael can buy out her half and that\'ll be the end of it.. She wants me to look after our dog nugget if we buy the house, which i\'m happy to, he\'s my little buddy too.
She\'s done nothing but lie to me through this whole thing, even today when i was getting my stuff back she was spinning bs. I asked her why she told her dad i was a bully, she said she didn\'t say that.. Now i know her dad pretty well.. he HATES her family, he was being honest with me and even told me to forget about her. He could see through his own daughters bs.
I ended the whole thing with, later down the track when I’m fully over all of this, we could be friends again, she said she\'d like that.. And I even joked about going on a double date with a chick and leaning over to her "poor bastard" and saying, "dood, I’ve tapped that" she laughed.
ahhh, i feel good now, but I know I’ll go up and down.. Hardest part will be getting a new routine in life; Lisa was my life every day, pity she just couldn\'t wait till we got into that house, both of us would have grown together rather then apart like she was feeling..
If she isn\'t cheating, she\'s going to find it really HARD to rent a place and pay of a house debt for 6 months (unless she means rent after the house is sold). Another lie she told me is that the day I had to sign a progress payment report she wasn’t at work.. I messaged her and told her that can she bring it to my work. She said no, she wouldn’t be at work. Yet, that same day I got a email from her at her work saying it was over etc. I went to her work and her car wasn’t there (she must have gone to work in a different car) I spoke to her dad and asked him about it, he said that she said this kind of shit was the reason we were breaking up, that I was lazy and didn’t make any effort to even bother to go to her work. I wanted just to talk to her. That’s all, now today she said it was because she didn’t want to upset me at my work, and that’s why she didn’t go to my work. Just lie after lie after lie.
It’s almost like every time I called her bluff she acted. I took the progress report home to get it checked to make sure it was legally sound, then i get that email.. Hmmmmmm, when my mother called her at work, she text\'d me and said my mother wasn\'t to call her at work. I asked her why she said that and she said there is such thing as timing and during work hours wasn\'t one of them. I did tell my mother to apolagise for calling lisa at work which she did.
Ultimatily who knows what happened, but somewhere along the line she, NOT I lost communication with me, i told her how i felt all the time, when she was doing wrong etc.. she never told me if she was having a problem with anything or even the fact she was "falling" out of love with me. She told me that she held me on a high petastool and when it popped she realised i wasn\'t the person she wanted to be with.. I\'ve been with this chick 10 years, how the hell can u say u don\'t know who your with.. Just makes no sense.
Personally, i think she was playing the field and when she landed the "other" guy she let me go. Well, shes gonna have a hard life lesson that nothing lasts forever and she\'ll be more alone in the future then she even realises now, just like her mother and aunt. One big alone family. I could be wrong about the whole thing, but to many things didn\'t gell together and to me, that = lies.
Another thing i noticed was her room was just about completely cleaned out. Just about everything was gone execpt her bed, desk and tv. I asked if i could keep her bed (that i already have), and she asked if she could keep my desk. I gave her that desk, and the pc in it. .Said asked if i wanted the LCD screen back and i said no that was in her closet too, which i gave her.
Its sad that it ended this way, when all it would have taken is just lisa to balls up and tell me to fuck off when i annoyied her. She felt like i took advantage of her, which i admit i did at times, but she didn\'t say no and thats all she needed to say. She also took advantage of me, my family helped her through a lot and so did I. I\'ve reflected from this, although i saw this as a adult relationship, she\'s still stuck in the bubble which she thinks she\'s gotten out off. She\'s taken steps backwards in her life, not forward.
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More or less right there with you bro. Not a huge kanye fan but this helped me a week ago when shit really hit the fan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhj3rgxwZsU
When you start to think about her again just tell yourself: "You wait a couple months then you gonna see, you\'ll never find nobody better than me."
:D
PS- Try to avoid EVERY urge to communicate with her. Change her name on your phone to DO NOT TEXT (anti-drunk dial measure), block her on gchat, facebook, everything. She needs to analyze herself and realize either what she lost or if she really has to move on. Being friends or fuck buddies will make the whole situation worse. Easier said than done, especially when you\'ve lived with someone for so long but you have to do this.
Go on a roadtrip with friends, spend much more time with family, take up guitar, anything to keep your mind & energy working on something else.
Also don\'t rule out a good relationship counselor/therapist. Reading your posts reminds me of me- you have a ton on your mind and need to get it out. An unbiased, professional 3rd party will help with the healing process, whether you two get back together or not. Good luck.
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Just listen to Exile by Slayer... if there\'s ever a song about hating ones ex... then that\'s the song...
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Sorry to hear souly... saw your status on facebook last week or so. I figured rather than ask you there that you\'d probably written it here. Hope you\'re holding up okay man..
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this is far from over, gotta sign another progress report tomorrow.. She wants to meet at mcdonalds near her work. Which is strange, when i could just sign the paper work at her work.
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well i spoke to her at mc\'s, nothing has changed, she still feels the same way. I told her i do too, but i don\'t really, i don\'t know what to feel anymore. You can\'t just turn off feelings for someone that you\'ve been with over 10 years. She looked like she\'s lost weight, which i can\'t understand. Always thought the people that breakup with someone don\'t go through the emotional side of it themselves, Unless shes feeling the loss as much as i am. Which i guess she would be, i don\'t blame lisa for anything really. I played a part in this, i just wish i could turn the clock back and make the choices different that i know started this. Mainly telling my old best mate to fuck off and talking to the bosses about it. That would have made a massive different in my self esteem which has been pretty crappy the last few years, lisa was the one good thing in my life.
I also personally think to many people have gotten involved and twisted everything (including putting bs thoughts into my head, i don\'t think shes cheating, i just couldn\'t imagine her doing that) putting their own ideas on how a relationship should be, whats she doing and why, how i\'m acting and its done nothing but cause our relationship to drown.
I feel personally that she\'s been listening to people that don\'t even know me, or even us as a couple and they\'ve for whatever reason supported whatever bad ideas she has of me without even knowing me. I\'ve had people telling me to just fuck her off, shes not worth it, stuff like that. That know her as much as her friends know me. Its just wrong. I always felt that your partner comes before mates, partners are forever (so i thought) and mates come and go.
My mind has become clearier as time has gone on, i\'ve started to listen to myself rather then everyone elses opinion. I\'ve realised that to me, a lot of relationships get distroyed because people can\'t just leave people alone (family, friends etc) they have to get their ideas across and keep pushing them. My parents did it a lot and lisa didn\'t deserve it, i got angry at them for getting involved when they did. Lisa got away from her family. I\'d do the same if i could but i\'ve got no where to go really.
I\'ve been mainly hangin out with mates to get my mind off things. Which has helped a lot, some have had their opinions (good and bad) i\'ve mostly ignored them. I tend to vent a lot ;)
They don\'t hate lisa for this, they\'re just as buffled as i am. More dissapointed in the whole thing.
but even now, it still doesn\'t feel right. Like it wasn\'t meant to happen. We were very close, then bam.. Its over. I never felt it was a relationship of convenience otherwise i wouldn\'t have gone into a house with her. I mean, to me that = kids, marrage the whole 9 yards.
I\'ll continue on with my life i guess. I\'ll be living in the house, maybe for a year, which will most likely make it even harder for me to move on, reminded everyday i go there.. i donno. I still will have to get in touch with lisa\'s dad to lay the tiles for the house. I got along with frank quite well, more so then anyone else in lisa\'s family, so it\'ll be good i guess to see him again.
I guess i\'ll have to just do my best to turn this downside into a upside and use the loads of free time i\'ll have to train again, i\'ll buy the gym i wanted to get and workout, guitar, gaming and partying. See.. i vent alot ;)
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cliff notes plz
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Holy cow. Talk about a thread jack. This thing turned from building a house to Souly getting his heart ripped out, acid poured in to the hole, his heart peed on and thrown into a busy road.
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Time will pass and you will move on. If she truly loved you she would not be doing the things she doing. If I were you I would let her be and go on with my life. If she ever realize what she had done she may try and come back too then that is your choice if you want her back.
But life does go and you will find someone else that is just how life is and I have been through this before. My long time ex and I new each other for 15 yrs. Then we got together and out of nowhere she flipped on me 18monts into the relationship.
I quickly moved on even though it hurt and she wanted me back. But I felt so bad by what she had done that I decided to move and be with someone else. I said if we are to be together maybe it will happen or it won\'t.
But at the end of the day life goes on.
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i\'ll take photos of the place once its finished, or at the stage just before laying teh flooring. and after. I\'ll make that place my bach pad in the mean time ;D I really would like to keep that house, we worked so hard to get the land (the land agent was a total moron, tried all sorts of dodgey shit on us) organise all the house details, plans etc. It\'s a shame to lose it. Its gonna be a beautiful place... Our dream home gone before the dream even began. Hopefully they\'re will be a way we both can walk away from this with $$ in our pocket.
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I also fully understand the term "love hurts" and am really starting to hate 80\'s music.. I used to love that shit, now just about every f@#Ken song reminds me of us. stoopid 80\'s music.
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Meh...you\'ll end up with a hotter chick without mental/emotional luggage.
This is will work out in the end for you.
Remember the first rule about relationships:
DO NOT DATE PSYCHOS.
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Personally, i\'d rather sort things out with lisa, relationships aren\'t easy. We\'ve been together 10 years, building a house etc. I just think we got to a point where she didn\'t know what i want and i didn\'t get what she wants and has clashed, then inturn clashed at every meeting we\'ve had instead of talking it out.
Oneday i\'m hoping we can just talk it out. I\'ve grown from this, i understand fully the part i took in all of this and i just want lisa to know it.
I\'m hoping she has too, if we both get back together understanding what we did wrong we won\'t repeat the same mistakes.
If not, then life goes on, but i didn\'t get this far into our relationship to just let it slide away between my fingers without even trying to sort it out. I\'ve been goin at it all wrong, blaming rather then talking. All the crap that happened in her past was just that, in her past. This stuff hasn\'t happened for awhile. I donno, i prefer not to go through this again in 10 years when we have kids etc, but if she\'s learnt from her mistakes too, we won\'t have too.
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My advice
1) Do the 30-day no contact rule. No emails, texts, checking her facebook, etc...
2) Zip up all pictures you have of her on your PC, and store it somewhere so you can\'t look at them freely
3) Best thing: Surround yourself with positive people and don\'t listen to depressing music.
It\'s the only way to feel better in this situation. Moping around for what could have been will just prolong the pain.
This advice seems like it\'s too hard to take right now, but in a month things will become much more clear.
And lastly, think with your HEAD, not with your HEART. Your heart is a roller coaster of emotions right now. Love, sorrow, pain, guilt. It can\'t be trusted but your mind with the knowledge and fact that she did this to you makes perfect sense. You deserve better, you KNOW this. But your heart is going to tell you otherwise. Now get out of the house!
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But again, theres reasons for everything, people make mistakes.. She did break it off, but it needed to happen. So we both can learn a lesson from it. I know i sure have and i am thinking pretty clearly. My emotions are starting to even out and i was taking sleepin meds, stopped taken them last night to see how i go and didn\'t wake up to badly. I\'ve sent lisa one last message saying call me when your ready to talk. She didn\'t tell me to F-off or OK, so i\'m not exactly sure how to take that.
I\'m gonna give her the space she needs to sort her self out. It\'s very hard though, i miss lisa more then anything, but hope for the best, prepare for the worst is how i\'m looking at this now. If she does truly want to end this relationship then i\'ll respect that and move on. If she doesn\'t, then i want to sort things through. I find sometimes relationships do need some time apart, it can help the relationship grow stronger after. Which is what i\'m hoping for. I just think at some point we ended up on different pages, but with the same goal in mind. I just didn\'t make it clear enough to lisa and vice visa. I felt i found my soul mate.
I\'ll even tell u how we meet,
We first meet in high school. She was in my class and we just clicked, could talk about anything we wanted and never had a problem with it. Anyway i left school in the 11th year and didn\'t say goodbye to lisa.
I had a mate ben who i used to be pretty close with, he told me that he saw lisa on the bus a few times so i asked him if he could give her my number and let her know where i am so we could catch up.
Anyway, that never happened, But oneday my (old) best mate shane and I were walking through a church (shortcut) to go from our local shopping center (mall) to my house and we just happened to walk into lisa. I was so happy to see her and gave her my details or told her to come to my place, can\'t remember now. anyway we caught up a few days or week later. Lisa said that day she was gonna go around the church but felt that she should walk through it. Then we hit it off, became very close, then started dating. Theres been ups and downs, but that didn\'t really bother me, because lisa is worth it. I feel she still is and i\'ll fight as much as i can to get her back. I know that sounds lame but its just the way i feel. I mean, everytime i get in my car i hear this stupid (never meant to fail) song.
Starting to drive me nutz.
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I would never in a million years ever marry a chick I have to "try" at having a relationship. My wife and I never fight. We just live our lives and don\'t fret the little shit. I just couldn\'t imagine feeling like I have to work at a relationship that I\'m not even married or committed to.
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I would never in a million years ever marry a chick I have to "try" at having a relationship. My wife and I never fight. We just live our lives and don\'t fret the little shit. I just couldn\'t imagine feeling like I have to work at a relationship that I\'m not even married or committed to.
^^^This!!!...yeah souly...we all feel your pain and i know it feels like your world is fallin\' apart, but do NOT sit and wait on her to respond or to even talk. She didn\'t tell you yo f**k off because she\'s probably bein\' nice or it\'s just not in her demeanor, but she was the one that broke up with you.
I know it\'s gonna be painful since you\'re still dealin\' with elements of her life as in her pops and house itself, but bro, seriously i wouldn\'t sit around waiting or hoping she\'s going to respond to my e-mails or texts....alot of us have been thru the same thing you\'re goin\' thru, and it\'s true that it shouldn\'t take sooo much to get the relationship goin\'...even if there are other people getting involved and giving their opinion, none of that would have mattered if she loved you the way you were loving her.
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^^^This!!!...yeah souly...we all feel your pain and i know it feels like your world is fallin\' apart, but do NOT sit and wait on her to respond or to even talk. She didn\'t tell you yo f**k off because she\'s probably bein\' nice or it\'s just not in her demeanor, but she was the one that broke up with you.
I know it\'s gonna be painful since you\'re still dealin\' with elements of her life as in her pops and house itself, but bro, seriously i wouldn\'t sit around waiting or hoping she\'s going to respond to my e-mails or texts....alot of us have been thru the same thing you\'re goin\' thru, and it\'s true that it shouldn\'t take sooo much to get the relationship goin\'...even if there are other people getting involved and giving their opinion, none of that would have mattered if she loved you the way you were loving her.
I agree with you and Vid. Dude we all have been there. The shit hurts real bad and you feel like maybe it would be better to work it out with that person than start over. I know I have said life is too short and if you love someone and no they are meant for you. Then you both should be together.
But you should not have to work so hard for the other person be with you. If that person really loves you then it\'s shouldn\'t be so difficult. I would hate to have to jump through hoops to be with my gf. Noway man I learned my lesson it always ends up being bad in the long wrong.
I think every guy can see were your coming from. But I learned with time everything works out. I am pretty sure she has or will have no problem having another dude occupy her time.
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meh, donno man. Lisa isn\'t cheating, that i\'m sure of. If she was she\'d be happy and not dropping shit loads of weight like she has been. As for finding another guy to occupy her time? i donno, if she did i\'m sure she would be telling me already and still be happy. She didn\'t look happy at our last meet.
This is what i\'m talking about, to many people get into our heads and say what they "think" is going on, i don\'t know whats going on, don\'t get me wrong. I\'m giving lisa a month and then i\'ll contact her and sort it out or not, but i\'m not expecting it to work out.
So i\'m treating it as if we\'re over already. She may just need to figure things out for herself and is doing it in her own way. I donno.. Hope for the best, expect the worst. Thats how i\'m seeing this now.
I\'ll still have a house warming, would be great if she was there with me, who knows.. none of us including me. If she doesn\'t want to continue this relationship i\'ve learnt a major lesson from it and my next partner will benifit from it. One heart broken, another gained...
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meh, donno man. Lisa isn\'t cheating, that i\'m sure of. If she was she\'d be happy and not dropping shit loads of weight like she has been. As for finding another guy to occupy her time? i donno, if she did i\'m sure she would be telling me already and still be happy. She didn\'t look happy at our last meet.
This is what i\'m talking about, to many people get into our heads and say what they "think" is going on, i don\'t know whats going on, don\'t get me wrong. I\'m giving lisa a month and then i\'ll contact her and sort it out or not, but i\'m not expecting it to work out.
So i\'m treating it as if we\'re over already. She may just need to figure things out for herself and is doing it in her own way. I donno.. Hope for the best, expect the worst. Thats how i\'m seeing this now.
I\'ll still have a house warming, would be great if she was there with me, who knows.. none of us including me. If she doesn\'t want to continue this relationship i\'ve learnt a major lesson from it and my next partner will benifit from it. One heart broken, another gained...
I wasn\'t trying to imply that she is cheating on you. But if she was so miserable and could not get on without you. Then there would be no huge issue if you too were going to be together. But if you\'re willing to wait around for her to make up her mind if she wants to spend the rest of her life with you then by all means wait. It\'s your life not mine.
Just based off your comments It just seems like it is over for her and if she wanted to be with you then why the separation? How selfish of her to expect you to wait around while she makes her mind.
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Don\'t go back to her, Souly. Even if she wants to give out free poon. Even if you think the angry sex will be fantastic, don\'t go back. It will make your feelings linger and create self doubt and cause more depression.
The first step to recovery is masterbation. At least that\'s what clips told me.
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Yea, i\'m kinda at the point now where if she wanted to sort things out she would have by now, or atleast given me some kind of message on the phone saying when she wants to sort shit out ( date of some sort) She\'s broken it off with me, so thats that. Pity, i only thought of this now too, i gave her unconditional love, she gave me conditions on everything. Engagement date, when she wants to have kids by etc. Thats hardly unconditional love. She expected me to hold a promise i made to her when i was 18, which was i\'d get engaged to her at 21 if we were still together. I was f@#ken 18, i was a kid and even at 21 barely had enough cash or grounding to even think of marrage. Its only now when we finally got our house getting built was i ready to get engaged to her. I need my castle to protect my wife, if that makes any sense and i hate the idea of open engagements. They\'re bs imo. Even if we did get married at 21 - 22 etc.. What, we\'re gonna live in 2 different houses?? wtf.. She even told me on the night we broke up, that she\'d be happy if i had married her back then. A ring doesn\'t make a marrage last, the people in it do!!
I would have been happy to live in a bin with her and not cared, as long as i was with her. I guess she never really felt that way. She was to focused on her wants and needs and not giving a shit that just being together should have been enough. No matter what she said to me, or called me (names etc) i didn\'t care. I still loved her, no matter what emotional crap she pulled on me, didn\'t matter, i still loved her. Yet she doesn\'t have enough respect or courage to even talk to me. I do derserve better then this. I can\'t believe i\'m the one who has to be sucking up to her to get her back. After all the years i\'ve been there for her, helped her through her problems, protected her against her retard brother, got her back into her own house, let her live with me for 2 years, bought gods only knows how much shit for her and i\'m made to feel like shit. I know my worth, i\'m a good person and didn\'t derserve this.
She\'s confided in friends and family rather then me, i\'ve always confided in her, never my family or even friends. Everything i felt or had a problem with i told to lisa, even if she was doing something herself i didn\'t like. I wouldn\'t run of and tell a mate. She was repeating things to me about what this chick at her work was saying, a chick she HATES and now they\'re best buddies, hmmmm. Anyway, she was saying stuff like "you derserve everything u want" "nathan doesn\'t like me" crap like that. I don\'t know this chick, i\'ve meet her about 3 times. How could i dislike or like her, i\'ve barely even spoken to her. Its crap like that, that was starting before the breakup. I was like, wtf does she have to do with anything? why are u listening to this crap? etc.
and even now i get told by a mate that she\'s emailed a mutural friend saying I\'ve told her NOT to keep contact with them. Which was bullshit, all i said to lisa was they may be upset by whats happened and to be careful when talking to them (they\'ll wanna know why etc) thats it. Lisa herself broke a date with them, she was meant to see them on the friday night before i got my stuff from her place and cancelled. Even so, lisa is a freebird now, what does it matter what i say?? I still love lisa, will for some time, but i\'m not waiting anymore. I\'ve waiting long enough. They say if u let someone go and they come back its meant to be, or some shit like that. I\'ve TRIED to come back to her and got nothing in return.
I\'ll still have to keep in contact with lisa, about the house and issues involved in it, but thats it.
Looking forward to moving into my house, gonna have a nice big house warming party (all the doods from work and friends). Might as well enjoy it while i got it. :D Will build a gym in it, work out and play the g-tar, if i meet some special lady ;) i\'ll ehhh, maybe even have some fun in my new house. heheheheheh ;)
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It\'s a bitch now, but you\'ll look back one day and be ok with all this. Then you can join the jaded bunch here and tell other guys to run away screaming from these kinds of women. Get yourself to where you\'re ok being on your own and about that time, I predict you\'ll find a new woman to be miserable with, er .. love, I mean.
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You better invite us over for a barbie. Heard you Aussies give the Yanks a run for their money when it comes to grilling.
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You better invite us over for a barbie. Heard you Aussies give the Yanks a run for their money when it comes to grilling.
Tru Dat!!...and i\'ll bring tha chicken wings and Bulk packages of welch\'s grape soda from BJ\'s...:D
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Don\'t get me wrong, but we both made mistakes. Mistakes that could have been undone if just spoken about. I started to make changes in myself that i knew weren\'t right on lisa. I guess it was to little to late, but i can\'t undo the past. So all i can do is live and learn, i\'m just upset that it took me losing lisa to learn my mistakes that created the breakup and another chick down the track will benifit from it. If i could rewind time i would, but i can\'t.
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Tru Dat!!...and i\'ll bring tha chicken wings and Bulk packages of welch\'s grape soda from BJ\'s...:D
Better get some Red Rooster with that shit.
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what sucks too, is no one will ever love lisa the way i do. No matter what she did i didn\'t care. I love her for her, even after all this i find myself afraid for her. In time she\'ll realise this when other guys she dates are like WTF! and at our age, they\'re gonna have experience in relationships and know what to look for and get out real fast.
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Souly...watch this vid...this is what is going to happen..to ya ex....:fro:
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkyRI1cBKHtkAqnFXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByN2s4bDgzBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNARjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkAw--/SIG=12c797l03/EXP=1254237896/**http%3a//www.dailymotion.com/video/xjmex_biz-markie-vapors
btw...i actually knew the dj "cool v" in this vid...Biz and his peeps used to front like they were from NY, but all of them were really from elizabeth,nj....:fro:
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lol, yea was pretty funny. If her family line is anything to go by, she\'ll follow suit. As much as she thinks she\'s changed, she hasn\'t.
She wanted commitment and as soon as she got it she bailed. Reality hit her and sent her flying into the clouds, oneday she\'ll come crashing down.
Hasn\'t even got the guts to call me directly yet she\'s meant to be this new woman rised like a phoenix. (even though she didn\'t even write that email, i know lisa, it would have been one of her workmates that wrote that lame immuture bullshit, one of the ones she doesn\'t listen to or like :rolleyes: She\'s taking advice from people that haven\'t even been in a 10 year relationship) Guess she forgot the part about how then burn again. If i spoke to her face to face i wouldn\'t be angry or upset i\'d just be me. Its not worth the energy anymore and as much as she doesn\'t want to do it, soon enough she\'ll have to face me. She can\'t run from her responsabilities, even if she thinks she can.
She\'s basically cut off every mutural friend we have, mainly because she knows they don\'t hold me respossible for whats happened. She even told one of them it was because she\'s hurt me so much and i need every friend i could possibly have. Ohh please, cry me a friggin river.
If her workmates knew me like our mutural friends do, they\'d be sickened by what lisa\'s done, but she\'d be spinnin her bs and they\'d be eating it up. Till it gets old and then they\'d just no longer care when its no longer something to talk about.
Whats even more funny, is she started changing while reading the twilight books. Its almost as if she believes thats what relationships are meant to be like.. Her owm mother couldn\'t believe the crap lisa has been coming out with. She even told me the other day we broke up because she\'s "catholic" WTF!! she\'s never been in a church or even worn a cross or done any worship what so ever. I was just flawed by that response, she\'s crasping to straws to find faults in our relationship that don\'t exist or are that pitiful, that a talk or little tiff could have resolved. Thats how most adults do it. I guess some children never grow up. I thought this one had, i thought lisa was my soulmate / yingyang etc. I was even getting excited about having kids with her. I guess i got sucked in bigtime. I guess her family ties over came her love for me.
She choose her family over me when she could have easily had both. Once the house was built i was looking forward to having them around and getting to know them better. I never felt welcome in lisa\'s family. They\'re always talking shit about each other and getting into each others lifes. I always meet them in group sessions and felt somewhat like someone on the outside looking in, even one on one they always had something to say. I could tollarate that and did. My family somewhat got involved too and i got quite angry at them for getting involved, but they never made me choose between them and lisa, no matter what happened between us. My parents would take lisa\'s side on things, mine on others but never encourage me to break up with her.
I know there\'s a few chicks walkin around out there that are right for me. I just gotta find me again and move on. I\'ve already noticed things in myself worth changing and i have changed them, but i won\'t be dating anyone untill i\'ve got lisa totally out of my brain and got to a point where i\'m happy being with myself. (not in a dirty way u sick bastards!!!) It wouldn\'t be fair on the next chick to be a rebound, although some mates at work think it\'ll be a great way to move on, it would be wrong imo.
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nws audio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W80Ae5hEOA
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As hard as i try, i can\'t get Lisa out of my head, i sit there thinking of all the things i said that i know are wrong, but i didn\'t mean to hurt Lisa with them.
My own insecurities and i guess hers destroyed our relationship amongst other things. Still, we could have worked this out, instead she shut me out then tried to cling on to her love for me. I couldn\'t understand it before but her emotional rollercoaster before the break-up was her going through the grief stage of a failed relationship. Her getting angry at every little thing was her way of finding a way out of the relationship
I was just there for the ride, if i had known what i know now, i could have maybe even stopped all this. All she had to do was talk to me and told me what she was upset, angry about etc and everything might have been different. I fight for what i care for and she always came first. If she just had only told me to "fuck off" or "no" when she felt that way we\'d be in a happy relationship now. Atleast, i believe that.
But you can\'t change the past and she won\'t let me have a chance to change our future... People can change, Relationships can be stronger after breakups. I don\'t believe for a second thats not true. It sucks to learn so much, by losing someone you care for the most.
I\'ll get over her in time, i\'ve noticed i don\'t think of her as often as i did before, it goes in and out (shut up dirty sluts) when i watch tv or play a game she doesn\'t enter my mind. Only when i do repeative things at work or sit and do nothing i start to think about her. At first i was having dreams about her and waking up upset. Now if i dream about her i don\'t get upset. I just can\'t believe that she can\'t talk to me on the phone, everything is by email, immature and gutless. Everyone tells me oneday i\'ll look back and say thank god it happened now, because it would have happened later. If she truly did love me, this would have never happened at all. To expect someone not to change over 10 years is f@#ken retarded.
sorry for the rant, it just helps me get shit off my chest.
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Right now time is both your worst enemy & best friend. It\'ll get better as I\'m sure you know, but right after is the hardest.
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I just wish she\'d give me the chance to show her i\'ve changed and for her to show me she has.
10 years is a long time most marrages don\'t last that long. I\'ve fucked up, I vented a lot about my workmate that was always spreading bs about me, (used to be my best friend)
My main fuck up was asking her to stay at my place on weekends, but she\'d go to bed early while i\'m a late sleeper. So i\'d go to friends places while she slept. I never stopped her from seeing her family (although they wanted to catch up every single weekend at one point and i wasn\'t into that, so i told her to go by herself) as i said too, i never felt welcome in that family.
I\'m not perfect and don\'t do well in crowds, but always felt like i was being judged by her family. Thats why when we finally got into building the house i was excitied, i could get to know them properly without the entire family enviroment. I told her to make a effort with her friends, but she said they don\'t call her, so she won\'t call them. Most of her friends are workmates or old mates that she hasn\'t seen in a long time. I wanted her to catch up with these people. Except one of her workmates, she\'s a bitch and even lisa hated her.
i donno, it just upsets me to know that i\'ve done wrong by her and haven\'t even had a chance to make things right.
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I just wish she\'d give me the chance to show her i\'ve changed and for her to show me she has.
10 years is a long time most marrages don\'t last that long. I\'ve fucked up, I vented a lot about my workmate that was always spreading bs about me, (used to be my best friend)
My main fuck up was asking her to stay at my place on weekends, but she\'d go to bed early while i\'m a late sleeper. So i\'d go to friends places while she slept. I never stopped her from seeing her family (although they wanted to catch up every single weekend at one point and i wasn\'t into that, so i told her to go by herself) as i said too, i never felt welcome in that family.
I\'m not perfect and don\'t do well in crowds, but always felt like i was being judged by her family. Thats why when we finally got into building the house i was excitied, i could get to know them properly without the entire family enviroment. I told her to make a effort with her friends, but she said they don\'t call her, so she won\'t call them. Most of her friends are workmates or old mates that she hasn\'t seen in a long time. I wanted her to catch up with these people. Except one of her workmates, she\'s a bitch and even lisa hated her.
i donno, it just upsets me to know that i\'ve done wrong by her and haven\'t even had a chance to make things right.
Time will heal all wounds. You can\'t blame yourself that things did not workout. Something are just not meant to be. When a person really loves you then you don\'t have to try so hard. Obviously ten years was not that much to her. I don\'t care what you say if she really loved you like you think there is noway she could just throw away your love like that.
I have no idea why people do the things that they do. I guess that how things workout. I thought I was meant to be with my ex but It wasn\'t meant to be. I new her since I was 15 and we such good friends for so long. But I learned you can\'t be yourself up about things. Now I have a gf who cares for me and much as I do her and we discuss everything.
You have to look at it as just one of life\'s lesson. If you and her are meant to be together then you will. Don\'t give up but I wouldn\'t live my life waiting.(Not saying that you are)
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Yea I’m not waiting, I’m not even sure if I want her back. It’s strange, I go back and forth in my mind, and weighting out is she worth it, is her family always interfering worth it, lisa freaking out over kids that aren\'t her responsability, jealous of chicks talking to me, and is her emotional blackmail crap worth it. I really rather have a chick that is straight with me, tells me to fuck off when she\'s pissed off. Doesn\'t need me to pull her close to know i love her and isn\'t demanding things like children and marrage by a certain date. That should happen when it happens, not take to long though. Lisa and I were different, we started dating at a young age so i wasn\'t ready for marrage and children until now, was schooling and barely working etc.
Can I really trust that she\'s changed even if she says she has?! If I was as bad as she makes me out to be, surely we wouldn\'t have been together for 10 years, but then on the flip side, she could say the same for her. Everyone tells me that I’ll look back and be like thank god that happened, dodged a bullet etc, after all. It runs in her family, not mine. But atm I’m too foggy to see anything clearly. I don’t expect her to come back, even if she did. I’d have a hard time trusting her again. She won\'t even talk to me on the phone or face to face over the house issues (only one time a mcdonalds) its all been emails. Disconnected as much as possible. Yet, shes meant to be this brand new woman that\'s tough, its not hard to talk on a phone and just about everytime we do talk, theres a new reason why we broke up. Now i won\'t even bother asking why, theres just no point.
I just don\'t understand it, if she doesn\'t love me, then surely talking on the phone wouldn\'t be a issue. She\'s even disconnected herself from calling our house, well our house.. instead she calls it the kooweerup house. Its like a switch has flipped and she has decided to act as if its not even half hers.
To me, its like she\'s forcing herself out of this relationship. That whatever her problem is with me can\'t be fixed or even talked about, she said she tried to talk about it, but not once did she ever say we have a problem in our relationship. Only in looking back do i see bits and pieces of hints she made that there was a problem (in her emotions and some strange comments) but it was a 50-50 street, she didn\'t communicate properly to me any issues she was having. Anytime she did i made the effort to make her happy.
The last problems she had with me was she wanted me to go to a dance with her, now she knows i don\'t dance. So i said i\'d slow dance with her and she was fine with that. She also wanted me to get involved in the building side of the house (talk to the builders if problems come up) and as soon as i tried she got pissed off at me. She complained that she has barely any friends at one point, they never called her or barely did.
They invited her out for weddings and stuff like that but she barely if ever heard from them again. i told her to call her friend christine one day in my car, she replied that christine doesn\'t bother to call her, so why should she call christine. I said if u don\'t make the effort she won\'t either. That goes with all her friends.
She turned around on a monday and told me she does have friends (on the phone) i asked if i was invited and she said no, it was during her day off. (she was angry that i didn\'t make effort towards her friends, i replied that she barely has any, which she herself said earlier) Her not having any friends wasn\'t my fault. She could have easily made the effort and caught up with them whenever she wanted. I wouldn\'t stop her.
I also asked her to join martial arts with me, she said no, she\'s not into that. Now she\'s doing it too. Its like she\'s now doing everything i already told her to do, and even when i tried to do what she wanted i\'m still a asshole. She complained that she had no hobbies, i told her to start one, she was going to start painting when we got into the house. When we went to philip island i didn\'t really wanna go, but i went because she wanted to go, she choice the hotel room which was not to bad, but the spa was crap. Sometimes compromise is not always 50/50, i went there for her. Still, she didn\'t seem to notice or it was to late for her to care. I donno, just doesn\'t seem like the lisa i know. Beautiful, caring, giving person. Now she\'s a totally different person. Cold as Ice.
Damned if i do, damned if i don\'t.
it fucken sucks caring for someone who doesn\'t seem to care for you.
This has changed me, i\'ve seen a lot of mistakes i\'ve made in my relationship with lisa. Mainly not putting in effort on her family and friends, but it was hard with her family when half of them told her to dump me before i even got to know them. Her aunt anna told her to dump me because i wasn\'t working, (lisa lived with me 2 years and didn\'t pay a cent, my parents never told me to dump her) her aunt enza told her to dump me for god only knows why, i built this chick a pc, 1 year later if fucks up and she blamed me for it. Thats the kind of shit i was getting tired of, helping people like that and getting kicked in the nutz for it. I got along well with frank, probably because he\'s a aussie. I love the guy, was a great man and i\'ll miss him more then any of lisa\'s other family members.
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Just don\'t be THIS guy souly....:fro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDUpdicn81s
I\'m jokin\'....believe me...you\'ll get over her, it just might take a little bit longer than usual since you still have to deal with her in terms of the house, but after that is over...i suggest you completely just forget about her....like THX & qdog stated, time will heal all wounds....my ex and I weren\'t havin\' any problems at all, i mean we joked around made fun of other people when we were out together..she was just like one of my menz, then she came out of nowhere and cheated on me.
Now i\'m with somebody that is sooo much better than my ex...lightyears better...i was devastated just like you, but you\'ll pick yourself up and be back in tha game better than ever, and you will find somebody that\'s not going to be takin\' you on an emotional rollercoaster,....and i\'m not sayin\' every relationship is perfect, but you know you have a keeper when your other half is sticking with you in hard times or is really concerned when something is wrong or if you\'re just havin\' a bad day.
I really don\'t know what else to say, it\'s hard just to turn off your feelings for her, but again, i think after everything is squared away with the house....you\'ll have time to do other things and to forget about her and close this chapter of your life.
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lol pretty funny ad. I\'m not the type of person to seek revenge or act out on this. It hasn\'t even crossed my mind.
Yep, your right, the hardest part of all this, the house. Lisa has made her choice and i can\'t change that and have accepted it. I do go in circles in my mind of things i\'ve done wrong, but in it nothing that couldn\'t have been resolved or talked about. Like i said, all the problems that lisa came up with I noticed within myself I was doing and started to make the effort to change. Was just to little to late, she didn’t see it for what it was and started to see things through black glasses, no matter how hard I tried, I was always wrong or trying to create problems.
On the flip side, she\'s done things herself that added to this break-up.
It wasn\'t just my fault. If she had said no, instead of yes, or get fucked (either would have been fine) if she had stopped mothering me and myself allowing her to do it, things would have been fine. I remember at one point i even told her to stop treating me like a 12 year old. She kept nagging on small things like tax return shit. Also on my life insurance policy on the house. Which i\'ve got sorted out now, but i had other things on my mind from a dood at work that was forever talking shit about me and people were believing it, now his gone. All the issues went with him and I’m far more happy at work. When we broke up, i told her all she had to do was wait a little longer and everything would be different. I knew as soon as my workmate left i wouldn\'t be as depressed as i was, basically my self-esteem was fucked. She knew that too.
She felt she had to push me into everything. I only did shit when i was ready to do it. Nobody pushes me into doing anything. I was ready for the house, family, marrage all that shit, but like you said, if she truly loved me, she wouldn\'t have done this and understood i was going through problems. I used to vent to her alot about it. She vented to me too about her workmate. Sometimes i would tune out, but not on purpose just because i had so much anger about what was goin on at my work. I told her that and asked her to repeat what she said whenever i did it.
I donno, its just so frustrating to know this imo shouldn\'t have happened if only she had spoken to me properly and not hinted at things, we\'d still be together and happy. Everyone tells me better now then when we had kids, but still.. atm, I feel we were never meant to fail. I find it strange that i worry for her, when everyone tells me to worry only about myself. I guess that’s something i have to do too.
Which is why i\'m going back into martial arts now, getting back into guitar a lot more. Getting contacts and new glasses (finally) and getting my self back to sexy (get my self-esteem back) So the future will I guess look good in the end. Gonna setup a gym in the house when i move in. Trying to see the lighter side of all of this, its hard, but its slowly coming over the horizon.
I still have some of her stuff, i\'ll give it back to her mum. I don\'t want anything of hers to remind me of her. I still love her, but i really need to let go and won\'t do within myself untill all this house crap is sorted. Which is really upsetting to me.
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My self-esteem was fucked, and still is. I won\'t get it back till either Lisa and I make up, which I doubt will ever happen and I go back to martial arts (if we do make up, hopefully with her since she’s doing it anyway) I start Tuesday. Or till i get over her and move on. As i move on i see mroe and more the part i had to play in all of this and it was a big part.
Some other mistakes i made was saying stuff like "if we break up what would happen" I donno why i started saying that, it was almost like I felt we were going to break up. I donno, i even noticed i was saying it to much and said to Lisa I’d stop saying it and still said it once or twice after.
At one point i was saying to lisa she was a good girlfriend and she took offence to it thinking i was treating her like a dog. I repeated it a few times which was stupid because it was hurting her. I didn\'t mean it the way it sounded; I simply meant it to say she\'s been good to me.
It was wrong and hurtful to her and I purely fucked up. I also read her diary, but asked her if she cared. She didn\'t care and said go for it, she said I should write my own diary too. I said no because I’d write mainly angry crap about what’s been happening at work. Basically i said I’d write fucked up shit in it.
I guess looking at my actions i would look like I was controlling of her and maybe i was becoming that way, but controlling people generally don\'t want their partner to see other people, make new friends and separate them from their family. I never stopped lisa from doing any of these things. I always told lisa she could do anything she wanted, she\'s a smart girl and didn\'t believe that in herself.
At one point lisa was talking about a guy at her work and I was getting jealous i started to get ideas in my head she was cheating on me, which I know now she wasn\'t, She wanted me to be friends with them and when we moved into the house I was planning on getting her to invite them around as well as her family. (Separately so they could get to know me)
Somewhere along the way we both lost ourselves in each other to a point where she was my focus in life and i was hers. Instead of being 2 full people that enhanced each other, we became one person that was unhappy. I never meant to hurt lisa and would take everything back in a heartbeat. I made mistakes, big ones.
I think it was basically because my best mate fucked me over that much that I lost myself in hate, fear and basically became something I’m not. She told me that she feel in love with a guy she met when she was 18. I didn’t understand what she meant by that but now I do understand. She fell in love with a person that had high self-esteem and didn’t take shit from anyone.
I will never let a person have that control on me again. Never will someone ever start spinning shit about me and I’ll let it go.
If I start any of the bullshit I did with lisa again. I pray my next gf slaps my face and tells me to fuck off. (not breakup fuck off) ;) but i doubt very much I’ll let that happen to begin with. I won\'t let myself get a low self-esteem again.
Not to say i\'m totally to blame for all of this at all. Lisa had her part too, but i did do things that she didn\'t deserve, she also got jealous of other girls talking to me and early in our relationship she even ran out of my house crying when she brought around one of her friends from school and she was talking to me. I\'ve never emotional blackmailed Lisa (which she has done to me twice) or threatened her in any way. I\'ve only ever communicated with Lisa my problems and it never went outside myself and Lisa. (Till now of course) People can change, i think lisa did and so did i, her for the better and myself for the worse.
I just wish i could have that chance to tell lisa basically what i\'ve been saying here. If she still doesn\'t want a bar of me then so be it, but i don\'t want to throw away 10 years, a house and a future with a chick i love more then anything. I took out my problems on lisa, when i should have taken them out on the person that created my self-esteem issues to begin with. The way lisa broke off with me wasn\'t exactly right either, we could have had a sit down and she could have told me everything i was doing that was hurting her to a point where she was thinking of breaking up with me. It would have stopped, before it even got to the point of breaking up.
I know you guys are probably tired of me ranting like this, but it shit I need to get of my chest. Writing helps me deal with it and move forward. Which i am, i doubt i\'d ever get that chance from lisa and doubt more so that she\'d believe me anyway.
I gotta move forward in my life, or i\'ll be forever looking backwards wondering what went wrong. Maybe oneday i\'ll get that explanation from lisa and we can patch things up or move on. I gotta find myself again, i\'ve been lost for awhile now and i need to figure out who i am. I was going to do that with lisa once we got into our house. I guess i have to do it without her, i\'ll still be moving into our house though. :)
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I\'m picking up tiles from lisa\'s tomorrow, she won\'t be there. I hope she is so at least i can appologise for my actions in this. It would be good to tell her how i feel and that i know the things i\'ve said were wrong and things i\'ve asked of her were wrong. To releave that burdon on my shoulders. Still, to throw away 10 years without even telling me she was at a point where she was thinking of breaking up with me was wrong and immature. How hard would it have been for her to sit me down and say, nathan, stop doing this or we\'re over etc.
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well i was right, lisa wasn\'t there. I got the tiles from her mum and explained how i felt about the whole thing. That i wanted a face to face with lisa. Lisa\'s mum explained to me that lsia wasn\'t interested in this relationship and I asked her why she never told me she had a problem before the breakup and she simply said lisa is just like that. So basically for 10 years, lisa has done whatever i\'ve asked without questioning it or voicing a opinion. bullshit
Its just another lie, i got no idea what happened but the truth still hasn\'t been told. I made mistakes but none of them that were enough to cause a breakup like this. Without warning, without discussion about problems she was having. nothing!! She\'s planning a trip overseas or so her mum tells me. Which was strange because i remember a long time ago asking lisa if we were to split up what whould she do, and she said she\'d go to europe.
I guess thats what she\'s doing, running from this problem instead of facing it. Shes taken the cowards way out. No communication, no attempt at resolving any issues, just cut all ties with all our mutural friends and me. Her mum said to me, "you know what lisa\'s like" well, if i knew what lisa was like this wouldn\'t have happened. Clearly i didn\'t know lisa at all. She was a time bomb waiting to go off and she did.
Infact, she told a friend of ours who was thinking of breaking it off with her partner, don\'t. Talk it out. Yep lisa, you REALLY followed your own advice.
How fucken hard is it to communicate to your partner that something is pissing u off about them or what they\'re saying / doing etc. Surely it couldn\'t be that hard. I said to lisa\'s mum i\'ve learnt lessons from this, explained to her what happened with me. Then i asked her has lisa learnt anything from this. Is she just gonna do the same thing to her next bf. Keep it all bottled up till she explodes.. Her response was, "Thats a lesson lisa will just have to learn"
Ohh well, i guess i did dodge a bullet. If lisa doesn\'t have the guts to call me, she hasn\'t changed at all.
To go from my best friend / lover to a total stranger within months. Her mum even said we could still be friends after we\'re both over this. I turned around and said if lisa and I are over. We\'re OVER! no friendship, no nothing. I don\'t want anything to do with lisa once all the house shit is resolved.
10 years and lisa now only realises who i am? what a load of crap, her mum said lisa felt she couldn\'t live with me, ehh she lived just fine with me for 2 years in 1 bedroom. I personally think lisa wanted this house, when i was ready we started building it and she got cold feet and is running as far as she can from me. Its the commitment she\'s afraid off. She probably still has some feelings for me is why she\'s been so distant and only doing things through emails. Some other mates think she\'s cheated on me (one night stand) and feels guilty for it. Who knows, i don\'t believe that myself but the way she\'s been acting i have no idea. I was in-love with a child. I sure picked a winner!
Well my lessons learnt list.
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- if someone talks shit about u, even if they\'re your best mate, tell them to fuck off and if your working with them, report it to your bosses.
- run from emotional blackmail of any kind (first time now that i remember was, she intruduced me to a chick named sarah, i was talking to sarah and lisa ran out of my house crying, of course i chased after her asking her what was wrong, told her we were just talking why are u getting upset etc, 2nd time was the whole "if u don\'t come over you don\'t love me thing", 3rd time was her aunts driveway saying she didn\'t love me, when i got upset she was like ohh, u do love me and everything was normal again)
- if a chick needs constant reinforcemnt that i love her even though i tell her EVERYDAY, leave relationship
- If the chick doesn\'t get shitty at you when she should be, or is always trying to make you happy. Fuck her off, she\'ll end up resenting you for it and just snap. (which is basically what lisa did)
- look at the mother, if she\'s done a runner on the father, the daughter will probably follow suit and most likely will end up just like the mother.
- look at the family. Even if they\'re together all the time, doesn\'t mean they\'re a fuctional family (they constantly backstab and fight each other)
- stay away from families that are stuck in outdated stupid traditions. (nonna being head of the family etc)
- stay away from chicks that over act everything, if they\'re sick they act like they\'re dieing run (one time, lisa collapsed at her house and we called a ambulance, when they got there she stood up like nothing happened, they looked at me like WTF!!!)
- stay away from chicks that can turn tears off and on like water works, (one time lisa cooked for me, it was burnt and tasted like crap. I told her it was burnt and didn\'t taste good, she started to cry and i told her to taste it, once she did she stopped straight away)
- Her own father telling me not to marry her or rush into it (even though she wanted to marry me) then telling me after we broke up to basically forget about her.
- If your GF worries more about family issues over you all the time, forget her. She\'s to tied to the family and will listen to any bs they have to say bout u, even when they barely know u.
i could keep on going but u get the point.
I still have heaps of respect for lisa\'s dad. He is and always will be to me a great bloke. We got along very well. If i could keep contact with him i\'d like to very much, when i pickup the tiles from him i\'ll ask him if he cares down the track if i can keep up with him.
and i still have to live in the house for 6 months by myself to cover lisa\'s and my own ass with the government grant, that being. If i don\'t we will owe 26 grand back to the government.
FUCK!!
if lisa just waited till we got into the house she would have noticed massive changes in me, higher self-esteem, getting fit etc. But she has no for sight what so ever. She didn\'t stay by me even knowing i was going through a hard time with a work mate. She couldn\'t simply understand that my venting wasn\'t personal and i was just angry about being stuck in a job with a cunt of a ex best mate that was a total ass once he realised the bosses started having more interests in me. I was even planning on looking for a new job once the house was built to get away from this ex-mate. But he left the day after we broke up. What a kick in the nutz.
well, at least i\'ve learnt from this and will down the track meet a chick that will stand by me through thick and thin and not take shit personally if i have a bad day.
It will be hard for me to totally trust a chick again, but as everyone keeps telling me, they\'re all different.
What cuts me the deepest. Is the past, when we meet. She said she was pulled towards the church and was gonna avoid it. I wanted to see lisa so badly for months. Then we finally meet again and it was like magic. I never thought fate would flip a coin and wack me in the face with it. What was meant to be never was meant to be. I even gave lisa a braclet once that said "forever magic" or "magic forever" can\'t remember which way but man if i knew what was coming. She\'ll never find another dood that will put up with the shit i have in her life ever again. I predict she\'ll end up just like her aunt and mother. Alone. I could be totally wrong though, fate could slap me again and she\'ll end up doing totally fine while i go down the shitter, who knows. If there is such thing as fate. (as lisa\'s mum would say, "the universe will provide"
Read that list and tell me, would u take on a family and chick like that?
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So can we go back on topic? What happened to the house? Walls a warping?
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Holy crap Souly you can write a book from all this. Look into seeing a counselor/therapist, especially if your gov healthcare plan or insurance covers it. It\'s great to unload on someone who can give you professional feedback.
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lol, the house is getting plaster up atm. Its close to lockup stage, Walls are straight.
so i\'ll be moving in pretty soon i think. I even thinking of saying fuck it, not moving in and putting us both in debt. Why should i carry teh burdon on something she has done. I\'m in a better position with money then she is, so it won\'t put me out to much.
I\'ve been unloading on my parents a lot.. they\'ve been great through this. Very dissapointed in lisa, my dad was just starting to trust her and she does all this shit. I never thought lisa and I would ever become like this, ever. Its just fucked. I trusted her and she\'s betrayed me in a way that is just unacceptable. Sure i\'ve done my part in this, but to just say "fuck it" and walk away like she has no responsiblities is so immature, cold and lame its not funny, but when i read that list i just convince myself that i have dodged a bullet.
If lisa was being honest about building the house to save our relationship then she\'s a fucken idiot. I doubt that. She wanted this as much as i did, whatever has happened has happened in the last few months and i may have had a small part to play, but she\'s played the biggest part. To go from hating her boss to being her best mate speaks words to me. A switch has flipped and thats that.
Whats even more strange, her new facebook page is using a pic of her from my 25th b\'day party. WTF!! yea, thats one way to forget about me. :rolleyes:
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Move on and quit whining dude.
Sell the house.
Move on.
Damn. I got a headache from reading your long whining posts. I\'m sorry, but you gotta pick your pants up and just move on. Quit whining and focusing on it.
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go fuck yourself. I swear some people in this world are wired to just be fuckwits.
sorry i give a shit about people i\'m (was) close to, i wonder if you\'ve ever been in a 10 year relationship? You might value love as utter crap but i hold it in a higher regard. I am moving on, but bitching is part of the process.
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go fuck yourself. I swear some people in this world are wired to just be fuckwits.
sorry i give a shit about people i\'m (was) close to, i wonder if you\'ve ever been in a 10 year relationship? You might value love as utter crap but i hold it in a higher regard. I am moving on, but bitching is part of the process.
Was in a five - six year relationship. I ended up ending it with her. I value love (getting married soon even), but man, you\'re just sitting here dwelling on it. Its starting to get a tad pathetic. You got to man up and move on. I\'m not trying to be harsh , I am just trying to shake you into reality. Quit going "Lisa this..Lisa that" and move on. Dwelling on it isnt going to help you move past it.
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can\'t stop the mind from doin its thing man, everyone has a process. This is mine, i\'ll move on in time. I\'m always goin out with mates, doing new things etc. She\'ll be right. Just ignore my ranting if u don\'t like it. Its my way of getting the thoughts out of my head. I even had a pretty hot chick flirt with me at a mates party, and my mate next to me. But i wasn\'t interested... They say i should get laid, but i\'m not that type of dood to just go out and fuck some random chick.
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If they are saying that you should get laid, then you are probably annoying them with your Lisa talk. You need to nut up and realize that she is worthless to you.
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lol nar, it was a one of statement from a mate i spoke to about it once. He doesn\'t have any relationships at all. He doesn\'t trust any chicks.
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Denial is not a river.
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Haha...Vid is funny....while souly maybe should forget about her,..i think we can cut him some slack since he still has to deal with her on some level since they have that house together....Souly,..i know it\'s hard, but you gotta stop beatin\' yourself up over her,....from the outside lookin\' in it doesn\'t seem like she\'s worth all of this pepto-bismol stress.
Go to the club with your menz, get smashed and mash up some chickenhead from the club for some rebound sex....and believe it or not, sometimes when you don\'t pay attention to your gf or ex in your case, that is when they sometimes show the most affection or interest, so if you show that you\'re not even bothered by this, she may come back to you or show some concern or even want to talk.
But that is trying too hard and is like playing mind games....like what was stated earlier if she loved you she would\'ve stuck by you no matter what. It\'s going to be hard no doubt, but even when you speak to her concerning the house, just keep it strickly business, don\'t even try to attemp to want to talk to her about the relationship...she MIGHT change her tune and wonder why you\'re not checkin\' for her anymore, but even if that was to happen, i wouldn\'t give her the time or day.
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Post pics of your girl.
Naked pics.
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lol, yea you guys are right. She\'s not worth shit. I really can\'t be bothed with it anymore to be honest. I wrote down everything she\'s ever done to me, compared it to what i\'ve done to her and man, what a fucken cow!.
sorry, no naked pics, and she\'s not my girl.
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Naked pics of you or ban.
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I only echo the "stop posting about it" mentality here because it\'s a public forum. What if a future employer or the ex searches for your net-name and stumbles upon these posts? Doesn\'t show you in the best light.
This is why we need a password protected area of the forum :) If we ever do I\'ll be sure to share my juicy break up story, and then will equally get yelled at by you guys.
And going back to Souly\'s story... anything anyone ever says about this situation won\'t make the feelings go away. Vent your little heart out to your buddies but understand they will start to get tired of hearing the broken record. Misery loves company, and that\'s what your friends will start seeing in you.
Focus your energy on working out or any of the other things I recommended before.
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Soully, I just wanted to reiterate: Have you tried going to the club with your menz, getting smashed and mashing up some chickenhead?
Sorry. Just wanted to read that again. Do what you want, really, sounds like you\'re getting over it.
What if a future employer or the ex searches for your net-name
If they think to search for "§ôµÏG®ïñD", they should be in the NSA or something. He might be safe on that one, heh.
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They\'ll stop searching when they find Souly\'s naked pics here.
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Don\'t care if lisa came across this forum. She\'s done the damage in breaking up with me, not the other way around. I\'ve only aired my true feelings. If she was to come across it what difference would it make? she\'s made up her mind and i can\'t change that.
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Well you need to post a pic if you want us to be able to really tell if she is worth page 4.
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If they think to search for "§ôµÏG®ïñD", they should be in the NSA or something. He might be safe on that one, heh.
Fuck, I should have come up with something more creative than Phil.
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Dude you have too look at it like this. At least you found out she crazy before you married her, had kids and got robbed of half your possessions. She did you a favor. But there is always healing time when you have been with someone who you really loved. Seems like this is the first time you truly had your heart broken.
Been there shit does hurt real bad but man when its all over you will be so happy things happen the way they did. I learned to be real strong throughout the years. The next women to hurt me real bad will be my wife.
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Yea i know, i am looking at it like that. Her mother did the same thing to her father, but they had kids involved. Butterfly effect has taken place to me.
Ohh well, live and learn.
is that her with the banana?
i think she\'s already hurting you! ;)
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Pics of your DAMN HOUSE!
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If they think to search for "§ôµÏG®ïñD", they should be in the NSA or something. He might be safe on that one, heh.
If he uses it on another forearm it\'s as easy as copy/paste :jacked:
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i\'ll post some pics tomorrow of the house. Its close to lockup stage. I\'m getting pretty excitied about it. Sucks to live in it by myself but it\'ll be good to live on my own and get back into shape get my self-esteem back. (its already growing really) :) I might try to rent a room out. Will save a little cash on the mortgage. Living on my own (without parents) is what i\'ve wanted for ages now. So this will be a great experience for me. Total freedooooom!
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went to take photos today but camera was dead.. will take em tomorrow.
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went to take photos today, but got stuck back at work lol.
Will TRY and take them tomorrow after work.
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I\'m beginning to wonder if there is a house at all or if this was some clever way of souly to post about his ex.
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eh why would i post about my ex using a house as a excuse? i\'d just post about me ex.
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couldn\'t get into the house, its at lockup stage.
Only photos i could get, once i\'m in i\'ll post more.
looking forward to getting in there and starting a new chapter in my life. I may end up back at square one, but i\'ll enjoy living for myself for a change. I\'ve relied on others for far to long. Time for me to get myself back to well.. ME!
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Nice. I thought you lived in bush country. ;)
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yea, they made it out of sticks and mud. :)
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It\'s coming along fine souly...:fro:
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Ok it\'s coming along very nice but what is going to happen? Didn\'t the both of you invest in the house? Are you going to live on one side and she stay on the other? Looks like it is going to be a very nice house. I would keep it if I were you.
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Yea, we\'re both on the title for the house, we both are the owners of it.
I\'m pretty sure we both signed the grant side of things, (we signed a lot of crap) so technically she\'s meant to live in it with me. If that does happen i\'d prefer us to stay in seperate parts of the house.
Which will make the "healing" process i guess go more smoothly. If she doesn\'t live in it, i donno what happens, we may end up having to pay back the grant which would set us both back 26 or so grand in total.
I\'m still dissapointed that this happened. My aunt works for a solictor firm and they\'ve NEVER heard in 40 or so years poeple breaking up during building a house. I\'m sure its happened before, but it should be a exciting time.
If i can live in it by myself i\'d prefer it, would be good for me too.
One thing still boggles my mind, All the dreams we had gone down the drain in a heartbeat. Only warning signs was her change in emotions and a few things said that i look back on and see now. (nothing direct, always in hints) Why was it so hard for her to tell me what was going on in her head. Things would have been so different if she just told me how she was feeling or when she was pissed at something i did.
argh! She\'ll never give me that answer or she\'ll just make a new one. so life will go on.
Socrates
The hottest love has the coldest end.
guess we had the hottest love.....
We did have our good times, i won\'t forget them, but i won\'t forget the ending either.
i found some ones that gave me some well, happyness.
Sometimes we tend to be in despair when the person we love leaves us, but the truth is, it\'s not our loss, but theirs, for they left the only person who wouldn\'t give up on them.
One day you\'ll love me, the way I loved you. One day you\'ll think of me the way I thought of you. One day you\'ll cry for me, the way I cried for you. One day you\'ll want me, but I won\'t want you.
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Went down the to house, kitchen and most of hte sinks are in, i couldn\'t get in though because its locked up. The proper front door is on, its starting to look good. Getting excitied about moving in. Will have to get house mates in though, don\'t wanna be in a huge house by myself.
Not so excitied about communicating with lisa. Not sure how i feel about her and i know i won\'t get angry or anything like that. Just don\'t wanna hit restart button on getting over her. Whats even more strange, if she had cheated on me.. I would have forgiven her and would have understood why. (myself being so dark and all.) Thats how much i loved her. Guilt could be the reason she called it all off, i donno. Seeing me might be like seeing a mirror into her guilt. Hence why she avoids me, or she just feels we have no future, which is retarded since ehh, we\'re building a house in which i was gonna get engaged to her in. I hate the feeling that i\'ve lost everything. Her, future kids, the house most likely in a span of a few months. How could anyone live with themselves doing shit like this to people. All it would have taken is talkin. It\'s just so frustrating to know that i\'ve all the time told her how i feel, why couldn\'t she done the same.
I have these dreams about her. We\'re not rooting or fighting. We just talk like nothing has happened. At first i used to get upset, now it doesn\'t bother me. I\'ve read that u dream about your EX for years to come depending on your next relationship and how deeply involved u get with that person. I loved lisa with 100% of my soul. I wonder if i\'ll ever love another person like that again. I gotta just find myself before even attempting another relationship.
Also read that in the dream, if your happy or wake happy even when seeing your ex, that you\'re meant to be happy with the way you\'re treating yourself.
I\'ve noticed a lot of change in me, so have others at work, friends aswell.. Not so shelled in anymore, more out going, talkin a lot more.. but that could be bacause i\'m working out alittle and have lost shit loads of weight and my major issue was with a dood from work, who\'s now gone. Self-esteem risin baby! :D
I still feel like i\'ve done a lot of mistakes, but i can\'t turn back time. I\'ve learnt from them. I know the wrong i\'ve done, but ultimately. Breaking up without even a proper explanation (changes everytime) or even TRYING to save a 10 year relationship is just wrong. I\'d never do that to another person and can\'t imagine how she could do it to me. I\'ve forgiven her so many times over the blackmail crap its not funny and she still does this to me and still thinks i didn\'t love her (she told her mum that i was being distant, another bs excuse. I was with her everyday, she\'d come over to my place for 30 mins then leave, i\'d be at hers for hrs) Everyone says i\'ll hate her once i\'m in the house, that being tied to it to protect what she has done will make me hate her. I donno, maybe.. i guess i\'ll find out once i\'m in there. I know i\'m meant to hate her now, but i don\'t. I donno, just can\'t switch into hate mode. I\'ve been upset and angry, but not hate.
Nearly got fried at work at one point. Lisa was on my brain and i got a nice 240v shock. Didn\'t hurt though, was like the thought of lisa outweighed the thought of pain, still. I could have died.
Now thats fucked up!
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Went down there again tonight, doesn\'t look like anythings been done. Not sure whats going on, but i guess i\'ll find out soon.
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oh yea? well my ex is a major bitch
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did she build a house and bail on you too?
did she have no empathy and blamed you for everything for what she\'s done?
did she shove u in the house to cover her ass?
did she just flip out on you and not talk to you about her problems even after u asked whats wrong and she said it was just "emotions"
was everything else pretty much normal except the last few months of your relationship?
did she not tell u she had problems with anything you were doing?
did u fall in love with her that much, that you didn\'t notice the "signs" and that you\'re struggling to sleep at night unless u take pills to stop the nightmares?
no?
i win ;)
I just don\'t understand how someone i was with everyday, feel out of love with me and didn\'t even bother to tell me that she was unhappy before it fully happened.
Everything was normal, she seemed happy. We had our slight tiffs but nothing that should have caused a breakup.
I told lisa that people don\'t change, that u should except them as they are... I was wrong, sometimes people need to change.
I guess she was my first flame, will be the hardest to get over.
man, i gotta get over her.
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Hah not trying to have a competition but mine likes to fuck around. And there were kids involved. Ya follow? Now she sends me random messages trying to reach out to me but I can\'t go back to a sack of shit like that.
I could talk your ear off almost as much as you can but at this point I\'m trying to move on.
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ah, kids involved.... u win ;)
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I win.
My EX and I have two kids. She\'s a complete nutjob who wants to be friends one day and the next wants to take me to court. My upcoming marriage and house hunting isnt helping, as I refused to marry or buy a house with her.
So, I\'m dealing with an EX who wants to fight over stupid stuff (whom I end up appeasing, so I can continue to see my kids four days a week) and I\'m juggling a wedding and house purchasing.
I\'m totally FTW.
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I win.
My EX and I have two kids. She\'s a complete nutjob who wants to be friends one day and the next wants to take me to court. My upcoming marriage and house hunting isnt helping, as I refused to marry or buy a house with her.
So, I\'m dealing with an EX who wants to fight over stupid stuff (whom I end up appeasing, so I can continue to see my kids four days a week) and I\'m juggling a wedding and house purchasing.
I\'m totally FTW.
It gets real complicated with kids involved....and believe me LIC, you do NOT want your ex to take you to court..trust...i\'ve been there and the court will take HALF of your income. I have my kids livin\' with me now, but when i had to pay child support, that s**t was killing me. So when i say this i\'m not telling you to cave-in to her, but if you could work it out to where you do NOT have to go to court, then maybe you should cater to her silly interests and concerns.
The only time i say let her take you to court is only if she\'s using court as a threat to get you to do things she wants you to do....that\'s what my chickenhead ex tried to do to me....i payed for it, but i wasn\'t gonna jump thru hoops just so she wouldn\'t go to court,...i\'m not gonna lie tho, child support had me hemmed up,..i couldn\'t do or buy practically anything. So avoid going to court at all costs, unless she\'s trying to take your manhood.
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She mentions court when things don\'t go her way. Problem is, I already have a lawyer (she doesnt) and since we\'ve split up, I watch our girls 3-4 days a week, my parents watch them one day a week. Which means, their mother, on the average, has them two days (or a day and half). Soon as we split up, I established child support, so it couldn\'t be said that I was trying to avoid it. I also document everything. They\'re four years old and potty trained, but when they are with her, she still ,puts them in pulls up. I know because they complain about it. So, at this point, I\'m just building up everything I can , so that when the time comes, if she decides to go to court, I\'ll have a very solid case against her.
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well, parents bought a new washing machine so i\'ll get theirs as well as the dish washer, friends at work are gonna try and find me a fridge. A mate said i could borrow his bar fridge too. So i\'m starting to collect the shit i\'ll need to live in the house.
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She mentions court when things don\'t go her way. Problem is, I already have a lawyer (she doesnt) and since we\'ve split up, I watch our girls 3-4 days a week, my parents watch them one day a week. Which means, their mother, on the average, has them two days (or a day and half). Soon as we split up, I established child support, so it couldn\'t be said that I was trying to avoid it. I also document everything. They\'re four years old and potty trained, but when they are with her, she still ,puts them in pulls up. I know because they complain about it. So, at this point, I\'m just building up everything I can , so that when the time comes, if she decides to go to court, I\'ll have a very solid case against her.
The world can be a fukked up place, I feel for you here. I haven\'t been there personally but my ex dealt with that day-to-day, which meant I was roped into it too. Definitely not a fun experience.
Damn I hope we look back at this thread in a year and are in a MUCH better place. Because right now, it sucks.
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I agree man, I agree.. It seems too that its mostly chicks that do it. Its like they\'re been wired wrong or some shit. Not to say there isn\'t dickheads out there.
She used to say i don\'t apprecate her, when i tell her she\'s a good girlfriend she twists it around as if i\'m calling her a dog. I just couldn\'t win.
The house is getting painted now, so fitting stage will be next. Then i\'ll go in, report what i don\'t like. Get the flooring done and wella, i start to live in the house.
Hopefully lisa will keep her word and help me get the driveway done. At this point, i got no idea on how she will be. Hopefully civil. I\'ll get 3 quotes so she can choose which one to go for. We have a joint account we both put money in. She\'s been doing it still so i\'m happy with that. :)
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Another stage of the house completed, their at the last stage now. I\'m getting better as time moves on. Lisa is still on my mind, not as much as she was before, slowly slipping away. At first i fought it, now i\'m letting it happen. I still miss her, its driving me nutz.
Still don\'t understand what happened between us. I think she felt that i was being distant and not showing enough affectation. Maybe i did, i donno. If i was like that i didn\'t mean to be, i had heaps on my mind, house, work mate shitting me etc. But its a 2 way street. For every hug i didn\'t give her, she could have given me one and i would have reciprocated. I won\'t figure it out. I think she still loved me, don\'t understand why someone would throw it all away instead of just talking it out and telling me her worries.
Every once in a while a reason for this pops in my head, but its pointless so I\'ve pretty much stopped trying. In time she\'ll be a memory, i just wish that time would come sooner. If she wanted to sort things out she would have by now.
I think i\'ll be in the house before the end of the year. I found out lisa won\'t have to live with me.
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Glad to hear the house is coming along very nice. Looks like it is going to be a great place to live. As far as for your crazy ex. You will never know why she did what she did. Even if she ever tries to explain it will just seem very selfish of her.
Next year this time you are going to look back on this thread and go wtf. But I guess this is all part of the healing process. It\'s hard when you lose someone you really love and the other person seems like they didn\'t give a damn.
Thank goodness for you that it\'s over man. There ain\'t nothing worst than being with a person who truly does not have your best interest at heart. When it is all said in done you\'re going to realize that she did you a huge favor.
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yea, time will heal the wounds. I even suggested going to counseling with her. Can\'t remember if it was directly to her (i think i did in a email), but i did suggest it to her father.
But, she has made no effort to get in contact with me, or even talk it out. So i won\'t sit around waiting, I\'m moving on doin my thing. Her family is probably telling her not to get in contact with me. I told her mother directly to tell lisa to call me, still nothing. I always felt they didn\'t like me so i wouldn\'t be surprised. Its strange, i can\'t even remember her face anymore. It still baffles me that people can throw away so much history without even a second thought. We had A LOT of history. We\'ve both supported each other through deaths, surgeries, money, family issues etc. I think the biggest problem people have is they blame others for their happiness. When they\'re in control of their own. I learnt this major lesson from this. Only person that can make me happy is me, future partner(s) will just increase that happiness.
if that makes sense.
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Too much to read.
Heard you\'re selling your house.
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no i\'m not. Hopefully i\'ll or mic will buy lisa\'s share of her. No agents = less money lost = more for her = everyone is happy.
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went down there yesterday, they\'ve started the tiling now. Not sure how long is left but it looking to be pretty close. They haven\'t put in any electrical sockets yet or light fittings, so once they\'re done.. Garage door, ducted vac etc. Then i gotta do the entry tiling with my dad, get the flooring done and wella, i move in.
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went down to the house, no progress. Got no idea whats going on atm.
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Start yelling at people.
People respond to yelling, maybe not in a positive way but make them earn the money you\'re paying them.
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i think they\'re waiting for the bank ot release the money for the next stage. i\'ll go down on saturday to see if anything changes.. If nothing happens, i\'ll call the builder and find out whats happening..
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Went there last night with a mate corey.
They\'ve done most of the tiling now in the main bathroom and en suite.
Not much left, the sockets have to be done and the lights... Then i think that\'s about it.
Gonna go down there this weekend and use the whipper snipper and cut the grass.. Its just about as tall as i am. ;)
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tried to cut the grass.. the whipper snippers couldn\'t handle it.. gonna have to fix a old one we have that has more guts.
Man single life is boring, trying to keep my self amused, must admit i do miss lisa. Hard not to pick up the phone. :(
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I think you miss being in a relationship more than you miss the actual person. At least that\'s where I\'m at. I\'ve been keeping myself busy with friends. And when I\'m home it\'s either working out, Netflix (just started Battlestar Galactica), or Steam. Anything to keep distracted. :)
Anyway nice to hear you\'re focusing your time on the house again.
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yes and no, i saw lisa the other night at her house for a signing and to get more of my stuff and had trouble looking at her. I felt i still had feelings for her and it made it hard for me to look her in the eyes.
She seemed not to understand that I\'ve lost a lot of weight from the breakup rather then working out. It\'s like she doesn\'t realize I\'ve been going through the whole grieving process and have lost heaps of weight from shock, depression and lack of appetite. She just doesn\'t seem to understand that i loved her more then anything. Now I\'m torn, donno how to feel. I guess there will come a day when I\'ll see her and know exactly how i feel. I have days where i could pick up the phone and call her, but i wonder if they\'d be any point. All she\'d have to do is just call me and i\'d probably still wanna talk things out.
Yea i\'m still waiting to do martial arts, got all teh gear, but my brother hurt his leg. When i\'m in the house i\'ll buy a small gym set to help me too.
Only exercise i do is walk every few days.
Playing guitar a bit more then i was too. This weekend i plan to cut down the rest of the grass and fix my car doors. I got a RDO of work on friday so i\'ll try and change my 2 rear car doors then.
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went to the house, the switches and lights are all done, looks like most if not all the tiling is done, cupboards are done. Still no ducted vacuum or garage door.. Not far of being at a point were we do a walk through. I think they\'ll do the ducted vacuuming last. Since the main unit gets put in the garage and can get stolen easily. Sisters friends are gonna give me some furniture too. :D
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next update, went to the place. They forgot teh ducted vaccum system. They\'ve put it in now, water heater and ducted heating. Funny to see square holes cut into the walls where they had to go vertical to run the ducts.
Will take pics next time i\'m there.
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you didn\'t notice before dry wall that they didn\'t run the central vacuuming? That stinks. We have insulation in all of our interior walls so that would be a bitch a 3/4.
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I did notice at one point, but there was a few weeks gap between the next time we went around and they had already plastared the place. I just thought they have already done the piping and knew the locations of them. Guess not, hopefully the system still works ok.
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You just can\'t take humans for granted. They are fucking stupid. We spray painted the floor below every ceiling can and every outlet/switch.
They missed 3 that we caught while they were doing it.
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well come thurs i\'ll be doing a walkthrough check. I\'ll take pics..
Then, they fix their fuck ups.. Dad and I tile the entry, flooring gets done. Then living begins.
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So what happen??