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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Mr. Kennedy on December 12, 2000, 05:54:06 PM
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I just wanna know...
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What is PAL?
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that\'s just what I asked
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Signals that TVs or consoles use..
PAL is for Europen and Australian TVs and consoles
NTSC is for Japan and USA etc.
Ntsc is better. You get full screen and more framerates.
But if your using a pal system you probley wouldn\'t even notice. Unless u had both systems.. NTSC and PAL
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i m sorry i m not to bright.
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i m sorry i m not to bright.
You\'re right. It should be not too bright.:D
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Could argue either one could be better Soulgrind they both have their merits -
NTSC refreshes at 60hz but lacks the same number of vertical lines meaning a lower image quality, also colour definition is not as good as pal. (never the same colour twice) ;)
PAL refreshes at 50hz and has more vertical lines giving a better image output and colour definition is more constant between PAL sets, the downside to this is that quick conversions from NTSC to PAL usually leave borders in and run 17% slower, this isnt usually replicated in home territory releases.
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Why would you prefer one over the other?
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Originally posted by SyxxKorn
Why would you prefer one over the other?
Um... Perhaps you didn\'t see this:
NTSC refreshes at 60hz but lacks the same number of vertical lines meaning a lower image quality, also colour definition is not as good as pal. (never the same colour twice)
PAL refreshes at 50hz and has more vertical lines giving a better image output and colour definition is more constant between PAL sets, the downside to this is that quick conversions from NTSC to PAL usually leave borders in and run 17% slower, this isnt usually replicated in home territory releases.
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NTSC is \'faster\' but has a lower resolution and worse colour definition. PAL is \'slower\' but has higher resolution and better colour definition.
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Countires went with different technologies. But they had to make a standard, so different countries looked at it and decided to make one or the other the standard.
So that everthing that is sold will work with the systems in place. NTSC is better, but there is not a huge night and day difference. So don\'t worry about it
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Originally posted by kirath
NTSC is better, but there is not a huge night and day difference.
NTSC is better? That\'s opinion... :)
Personally I prefer PAL. It has higher resolution and better colours. But the difference isn\'t really that big. I just don\'t think NTSC is better. Perhaps for videogames where speed is most important, but for watching movies etc PAL is better IMO. It\'s also an advantage for digital filmmakers because of the higher res and the fact that PAL runs @ 25 fps, which is close to the 24 fps of cinemas. So in that situation PAL is a better choice. :)
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Yes, PAL looks better... it´s "crisper"... :D
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the visual discrepancy between the two video formats is virtually negligible, but the speed factor isn\'t. If you were to look at a movie of PAL TTT, it appears as if they\'re moving in water. The 17% speed difference drastically lowers the playability of the game. Right after I played NTSC version of a game and saw the obvservable slowing present in the PAL version, I almost threw up. People who play the PAL version are not getting the full benefits of playing a game, as a matter of fact, they\'re getting jipped.
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Is it possible to get PAL in the US?
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I prefer NTSC over Pal!!!! Way to go NTSC. Way to go America and Japan! Why? Faster speed, syxxxkorny, why bother with pal. You wont see a noticable different. and i doubt there are any pal tvs in U.S. this is u.s. tv resolution and framerate. 640 x 480 at 60 frames per second. Pal is at 640 by 512 at 50fps. These little horizontal lines (resolution) on pal isn\'t much of a noticable different. Beside what vhs support that much? I knows dvd do but its not much of a noticable different. 10 more frames per second is more important! especially for video games industry.
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Well, I prefer PAL so sue me! :D
As I stated earlier. NTSC is better for gaming (at least if the PAL games don\'t have a 60Hz option). PAL is better for movies etc. At least IN MY OPINION. So way to go Europe. BTW, I think the resolutions you stated are wrong, know-it-all-wanna-be. I can\'t remember the exact resolution of PAL, but I\'ll look it up when I get home. Stay tuned!
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Originally posted by SyxxKorn
Is it possible to get PAL in the US?
Propably u could get it but the to are normally not compatible. You\'ll need a converter. And you\'ll hardly get any PAL media in the US! We here in Europa get the NTSC media though (due to your military)...
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Most newish PAL TV\'s have a NTSC option for hooking up NTSC consoles and stuff. They can also run at 60Hz so when developers put the 60Hz code in PAL DC or PS2 games we get them running at the same speed as you americans, but with a better picture and stuff. So now we get the best of both worlds!
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Originally posted by Potatocake
Most newish PAL TV\'s have a NTSC option for hooking up NTSC consoles and stuff. They can also run at 60Hz so when developers put the 60Hz code in PAL DC or PS2 games we get them running at the same speed as you americans, but with a better picture and stuff. So now we get the best of both worlds!
Yeah, we 0wn j00 ;) :D
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I don\'t get it...
even If i got a PAL tv, I would need special software, and a converter? To much work, I\'ll stick with the US one.
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Originally posted by SyxxKorn
I don\'t get it...
even If i got a PAL tv, I would need special software, and a converter? To much work, I\'ll stick with the US one.
You would need a PAL TV, a PAL VCR, a PAL PS2 etc. Meaning that you can\'t use it even if you wanted to.
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I am not worried about it, my TV manual says that when I use s-video it adds another 40 or so lines to the resolution. And boy I can tell, so if I am using s-video (which I do whenver i can) I am getting the best of both worlds.
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S-video doesn\'t add to the resolution. It \'just\' gives a better pic compared to composite.
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I have one more question, I know that the red yellow and white wire is for the audio/visual, but can you buy anything that will be better than what they give you?
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Originally posted by know-it-all-wanna-be
this is u.s. tv resolution and framerate. 640 x 480 at 60 frames per second. Pal is at 640 by 512 at 50fps.
Just a correction:
NTSC- 525 lines of definition, 60 Hz
PAL- 625 lines of definition, 50 Hz( but actually the Pal TVs have 50/60 Hz option so, if the developers make the adjustements, they could get the same speed/fps with better screen resolution)
They are similar systems so don\'t bother.
About your last question SyxxKorn, if you have a NTSC TV, the best you can buy is a component cable.
PS: If someone with a Pal TV is reading this, the best connection for you is a scart( 21 pins) cable hooked through the A/V 1.
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Originally posted by Falgarok
Originally posted by know-it-all-wanna-be
this is u.s. tv resolution and framerate. 640 x 480 at 60 frames per second. Pal is at 640 by 512 at 50fps.
Just a correction:
NTSC- 525 lines of definition, 60 Hz
PAL- 625 lines of definition, 50 Hz( but actually the Pal TVs have 50/60 Hz option so, if the developers make the adjustements, they could get the same speed/fps with better screen resolution)
They are similar systems so don\'t bother.
About your last question SyxxKorn, if you have a NTSC TV, the best you can buy is a component cable.
PS: If someone with a Pal TV is reading this, the best connection for you is a scart( 21 pins) cable hooked through the A/V 1. [/B]
okay, you wins. (about the scart cable, it loooks kinda similiar somwhere between a RGB cable and parralel input/output.)