Post by: tHe GaMe on December 15, 2000, 01:55:20 PM
Post by: politiepet on December 15, 2000, 01:58:15 PM
what do they need to tie?
Post by: Huddy on December 15, 2000, 02:03:44 PM
I doubt they can even come close to have as many developers as the PS2 has.
|hud|
Post by: tHe GaMe on December 15, 2000, 02:45:58 PM
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Microsoft is already Sony\'s bitch.
I doubt they can even come close to have as many developers as the PS2 has.
|hud|
Surely right..........
Microsoft cannot buy 150 developers Sony owns.
Post by: ProfessorX on December 15, 2000, 02:53:35 PM
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...We\'re doing these very same kind of [upgrades] to the Unreal Engine right now in order to take advantage of the power that the Xbox platform will offer us and our licensees. The other day Epic programmer Andrew Scheidecker showed me a working level in an Unreal Engine build without the span buffer and looked great and ran really, really fast even though he hadn\'t finished all of his optimizations. A few weeks ago Andrew showed me a test level where one scene in it had 27,000+ visible polygons and ran at normal game speeds on a GeForce. Jack Porter showed me a terrain level with distance fog enabled and the level was absolutely huge. Erik De Neve is working DX8-based hardware accelerated rendering system for our skeletal character animation system. In short we\'re pushing the boundaries of our engine out even further. Using these kinds of features on Xbox will allow games created with the Unreal Engine to be 100x more detailed than what you saw in the PC and PS2 version of Unreal Tournament. That\'s 100 times more polygons in view! I\'m not saying we\'re going to do that right off the bat but the capability is there and we\'re experimenting with it in house now.
Sony PS2 is an awesome machine but Xbox is not it\'s bitch.
Post by: tHe GaMe on December 15, 2000, 03:56:37 PM
Hopefully a even playing field soon.
Post by: Animal Mother on December 16, 2000, 09:25:50 AM
Post by: Biohazard on December 16, 2000, 09:29:59 AM
Post by: fastson on December 16, 2000, 11:06:26 AM
Well at least I want SCREENSHOTs that show us how "powerful" the Xbox (PC) is.
Don’t you?
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fxboxmedia.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fnews%2Fimage%2Fdemoscreens%2Fclack_1.jpg&hash=c9019c7a0f1b00cb15747789496c0efb483eeff8)
Impressive? LOL! (Looks like Airfix on psx)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fxboxmedia.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fnews%2Fimage%2Fdemoscreens%2Fbf_4.jpg&hash=6b2808c56ad1a3ff5785b144e02ab46fc83dd952)
LMAO!
(I couldn’t find the real time Raven demo. All I can find is the FMV one. Oh well.)
Sony has 96% of all the xbox developers. :D
/FASTson
Post by: Animal Mother on December 16, 2000, 11:23:11 AM
Post by: ProfessorX on December 16, 2000, 01:18:25 PM
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it also sounds like you, and Microsoft are over hyping the Xbox. MS does it all the time. Professor, you are like a billboard. And lots of people don\'t like overhype.
Really? That would happen to be anything like shipping less than half the amount of systems that Sony promised has it? Would it happen to resemble the 100,00 that they promised each week after that? Well maybe it could be the "real-time CG graphics" it boasted? Please....
Post by: Animal Mother on December 16, 2000, 01:34:08 PM
Lets see. Here is a tech demo that has realtime CG graphics (I just spit in your face)
![]("http://www.ps2online.com/bathtub.gif")
Post by: ProfessorX on December 16, 2000, 01:48:57 PM
I\'m just gonna tell you to go look at my original post again and think...think hard. Oh and one more thing...I hope that picture is not a representation of you.
Post by: ProfessorX on December 16, 2000, 01:54:30 PM
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It looks like I\'ll get an Xbox. It\'s not looking to good for PS2. EA is going 3 ways. Xbox, Gamecube and Ps2. It is clear that EA will shift their exclusive focus to Xbox. Ps2 will probably come in 2nd this console war. I am wating for Xlaunch! (I\'m so corny)
I think I\'m done with this thread ...
Post by: Nu on December 16, 2000, 01:55:48 PM
1.) Those demos were done on a Geforce2, which is supposed to be two generations behind the NV2A.(the graphics card thats going to be used for the Xbox)
2.) Those demos were demonstrating the Xbox\'s lighting capabilities, and how it is capable of show several objects on screen at a time.(There were like thousands of butterflies in that demo)
Anyways, just wait for Gamestock..
Post by: Nu on December 16, 2000, 01:58:10 PM
Microsoft isn\'t through announcing all of their developer support.
Yet again, wait for Gamestock.
Post by: AlteredBeast on December 16, 2000, 01:59:55 PM
DC was readily available after,because Sega made it that way. They shipped more than promised and did not try to hype up the system. Actually, as it is apperaing now, they underhyped it as it is been seen to perform way over the 3 million POLYS. as was stated in benchmarcks.
BTW, it is "Toy-Story" like graphucs, not REAL-TIME CG. :) Toy Story, gimme a break :)
X-Box does not need all those small, weird developers, if they have NAMCO, Konami, Square, and Peter Molyneaux, it will have moderate success, at LEAST. DC is still doing great, and they only have about 130 developers,next to PS2\'s 300, it looks small, but many of them produce games and don\'t dink around.
Eric Jacob
Post by: Animal Mother on December 16, 2000, 02:00:17 PM
Post by: fastson on December 16, 2000, 02:06:54 PM
1. Yes sure! Thats what M$ says!
2. PS2s tech demo is far more impressive..
3. Yes.. I cant wait to see the new PS2 games :D
/FASTson
PS: And Nu Gundamn my name is FASTSON not fatsom :)
Post by: Nu on December 16, 2000, 02:19:11 PM
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Originally posted by fastson
1. Yes sure! Thats what M$ says!
:rolleyes: Looks like you\'re one of those people that has to see it to believe it... Cant wait for those tech demos at Gamestock... And I cant wait to rub it all in your face. :)
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2. PS2s tech demo is far more impressive..
The PS2\'s demos were also done on nearly finished hardware. Those demos you see for the Xbox aren\'t.
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3. Yes.. I cant wait to see the new PS2 games :D
Even though this is completely unrelated to what i said...... Um, neither can I.
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PS: And Nu Gundamn my name is FASTSON not fatsom :)
o_o; whoops... Sorry.
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on December 16, 2000, 02:46:03 PM
X-Box is coming out almost 2 years later, technology advances, M$ is a bigger company and thus has more money, M$ does alot of illegal marketing crap, M$ buys EVERYONE out, Bill Gates has no penis...
Graphics aren\'t everything, sure X-Box will have better graphics, but, in the immortal words or the Great One, the People\'s Champion, the Brahma Bull:
"It doesn\'t matter!"
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on December 16, 2000, 02:49:34 PM
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I would like to kick old bill in the nuts
The feeling is mutual.
Post by: Ktulu on December 16, 2000, 04:12:37 PM
You guys is pulling the extremist bullsh** again. The nasty, offensive PS2 fan crap. I hate it when people do this. Professor did NOT say XBox would be better. All he said was that it would not be Sony\'s bitch. That\'s it. Not better, not superior, not better games. Just not Sony\'s bitch. Yet you guys got all pissed off and started raggin\' on him. Why? Is it THAT damn important to say the XBox is Sony\'s bitch? It\'s NOT.
Now, for people who brag that XBox will look better than PSX, I remind you: More graphical power after an extra year of R&D is a Requirement, and not an exciting "accomplishment". Kinda silly to brag on something you are required to do. Which brings me to my next point: More PS2 sales after the PSX sold 70 million compared to the Saturns 2 million is a REQUIREMENT, not an accomplishment. Same with XBox. Sony has a 70 point handicap. Why brag? If you can\'t win more launch sales with a handicap like that, then you are nothing but a pathetic little joke. If the PS2 had been the Saturn\'s sequel and sold 500,000, then I\'d be impressed. But following the PSX, a $700 turd with two controllers and one launch title coulda sold 500,000.
Post by: ddaryl on December 16, 2000, 04:18:55 PM
There are postitives to all 4 systems and the dedicated gamer at the very least can sit back and realize this truth
Post by: Huddy on December 16, 2000, 04:57:51 PM
I personally want to work for Microsoft some day, but dammit, why are they throwing money away on a market that they can\'t even win to begin with?
Sure the gamers can waste their money on 4 systems, but they only need one.
PS2
Post by: fastson on December 16, 2000, 05:35:27 PM
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Originally posted by Nu GundamQuoteOriginally posted by fastson
1. Yes sure! Thats what M$ says!
:rolleyes: Looks like you\'re one of those people that has to see it to believe it... Cant wait for those tech demos at Gamestock... And I cant wait to rub it all in your face. :)QuoteOriginally posted by fastson
2. PS2s tech demo is far more impressive..
The PS2\'s demos were also done on nearly finished hardware. Those demos you see for the Xbox aren\'t.QuoteOriginally posted by fastson
3. Yes.. I cant wait to see the new PS2 games :D
Even though this is completely unrelated to what i said...... Um, neither can I.QuoteOriginally posted by fastson
PS: And Nu Gundamn my name is FASTSON not fatsom :)
o_o; whoops... Sorry. [/B]
1. So are we gonna see some more FMV? LOL! I cant wait to see the new Xbox techdemo so I can have a laugh.. :laughing:
2. Sure... Thats what M$ says!
3. :)
4. :mad: j/k no problemo!
/FASTson
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on December 16, 2000, 05:42:21 PM
amoung them being Capcom, Sqaure, EA, ESPN, etc.
The classic saga\'s will continue on the PS2...
Post by: Nu on December 16, 2000, 07:05:33 PM
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1. So are we gonna see some more FMV? LOL! I cant wait to see the new Xbox techdemo so I can have a laugh.. :laughing:
You\'re really setting yourself up here...
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2. Sure... Thats what M$ says!
So, you\'re in denial. Everybody knows that the graphics card thats going to power the Xbox, the NV2A, isn\'t finished yet. At E3, we\'ll be seeing tech demos/games that will be running on final Xbox hardware, and not the Geforce2(like they are now).