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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: on December 21, 2000, 05:13:48 AM
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Not my opinion just read it this morning.
http://www.fgnonline.com/fgn/news/16841.html
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That would be the most stupid thing Square could ever do... they know FFX on the PS2 would sell like crazy and I doubt they\'ll be leaving out this opportunity to make big money. I\'d almost replace "may" with "will no way be" :)
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Don\'t reply to this idiotic post.
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SURVEY SAYS.... "EEEHHHHHHHH!!!!"
I\'m sorry, but this WILL NOT happen.
Let\'s see, they KNOW they\'ll make tons of money for PS2 or they MIGHT make tons of money with X-box.
At most, they\'ll make it for both consoles.
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My mom is going to be X-box exclusive, so you can all play her on there. <-- dumb right
Just like this thread..Nothing personal, but we just keep hearing this over and over again. :burn:
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Originally posted by OvalEclipse
Not my opinion just read it this morning.
http://www.fgnonline.com/fgn/news/16841.html
You "May" be a dumbass, just my oppinion... :D
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yeah... sure
Square will delay there game in europe cause the x-box was delayed... LOL
http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4634
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:D :D are you sure?? :D :D
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I dont want to buy x box but if they are gonna be having final fantasys and metal gears i might have to get it. I hope its more affordable then my psx2 was.....
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http://ca.famitsu.gameloft.com/en/dn/0012/18/dn06.html
December 18, 2000............By: Daily Famitsu
Xbox exclusive my ass!!!!
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However, rumor is a rumor. And this one, pretty dumb. Wonder why this rumor has been flying. Because there is an X in FFX? :rolleyes:
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Yes Simchoy that is the reason. All this Bull **** came from computerandvideogames.com Because of the X in FFx
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Yes, but wouldn\'t it be terrible if there was a Final Fantasy X[/b]?
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how can any person belive this? only idiot xboxfanboys(i-e MSxbox members)....will, anyways thanks for the laugh.
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we\'ve seen this many times, it\'s not true!
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FFX "may" be x-box exclusive.
Yeah, and Al Gore [insert OvalEclipse\'s definition of the word "may" here] still have a chance to be the President of the United States. :rolleyes:
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lol, FFX "may" goto the XBOX, but it will never be an exclusive to XBOX
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FFX has a better chance of being Xbox exclusive than Sega developing for PS2, but some of you jumped onthat bandwagon. *sigh* Up until EA announced it was officially a XB developer, half of you were denying that til you were blue in the face. It is just a rumor, but certainly not a impossible one. Square can make just as much money on either console, as leaving PS2 for XB would be the final nail in Sony\'s coffin (this generation anyways), XB would dominate, and Square would have the same amount of money as it would have, plus, it\'d been cheaper to make for XB, so they might make more money. Sony fanboys are just as bad as XB fanboys.
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Actually EThugg, Square on XBox would NOT be the nail in Sony\'s coffin. Sony would survive just fine without them - just as Nintendo would survive without Zelda. Yes, it\'s a big name adventure franchise, but it takes more than one developer to kill a console. I don\'t care if that developer is Square. People give Square far too much credit... they are a talented developer, but not talented enough to kill one console while helping another to dominate singlehandedly. Especially when the console they\'re going to "kill" has a previous userbase of 40 million. 35 - 37 million of that which did not buy into the Final Fantasy series.
Kill Sony? No. It would just get XBox more sales. Square is like EA is like Reggie White\'s first year with the Packers. A free agent that lends the team a great deal of credibility.
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Exactly Ktulu. I\'ve had my PSX for a long time and I\'ve only bought 2 Squaresoft games.
FFTactics - which is btw the greatest FF game (haha don\'t flame me)
&
FF7
3 if you count Bushido Blade, but that game sucked so bad I sold it back.
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FFX exclusive to Xbox? Not bloody likely. It may end up appearing on the console, but rest assured Sony will get it on PS2 first.
[Edited by VetteBoy on 12-22-2000 at 11:25 AM]
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I\'m sticking with PSX2 and that all there is to it
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Originally posted by Biohazard
I\'m sticking with PSX2 and that all there is to it
Amen to that.
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yeah!
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I didn\'t say single handedly, I said final nail. I don\'t even care about Square (or EA for that matter), but it would DEFINATLY mean that XB would dominate PS2. No, it won\'t kill Sony, but PSone\'s user base has **** to do with PS2, between Sony\'s screw ups, EA\'s support for XB, XB\'s financial backing and Gates business tactics, the sheer number of developers \'newbie\' MS has gotten, etc, etc, Square would be the final nail in PS2\'s chance of being the \'dominant\' console. It would survive, but would be in XB\'s shadow. Everyone here knows Im a Sega fanboy anyways :p so I\'m not biased against Sony over MS. I just don\'t dilude myself into thinking somthing so obviously possible, wasn\'t. Some ppl seem to be forgeting, I own a PS2. I\'m not selling it, ever! This is all speculation, just don\'t act like bitches, whining its impossible that a FF game would be XB exclusive. I don\'t give a **** who \'wins\', I\'ll have all systems.
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Yep. If Microsoft uses it\'s PC OS monopoly to insure succsess of the Xbox, that isn\'t exactly legal, and is in Section 2 of the Sherman act (Microsoft violated all 4 sections except section 1)
Product dumping: Section 3 (Microsoft bolted IE into windows to eliminate Netscape)
Extended monopolizing (not sure if this is what it\'s called) Using an existing monopoly to monopolize other markets. Section 2
Section 4: Preditory pricing tactics, and the Sun sys java incident.
square won\'t leave. Conservative Japanese companies won\'t pledge loyalte to american companies (Konami is giving them a few ports, so it capcom) NO EXLUCIVES JUST PORTS. Anyone notive this.
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Yes, they are ports. So? A better looking ver. of a game can\'t go wrong. And I care little about monopolies, assuming the liberal interpretations of the courts are correct, and MS is a monopoly, so what? IE now works better (in my own experience) than Netscape ever did. So much for stiffling innovation, destroying a product (market share wise) and replacing it with a superior product. Pfffft! is all I have to say. Win98 2nd edition workes for me just fine. When I occasionaly have a prob, its other companies progs that cause probs, not the OS. I\'m real sick of the MS bashing. It\'s largly unwarrented.
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:D :D :D
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EThugg, Microsoft\'s practices aren\'t exactly legal, and they are going to pay. This is a country governed by law. Not big buisness
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EThugg, in the time that you\'ve been in this forum, you\'ve said two things that have made a LOT of sense:
1. MS Bashing is unwarranted and...
2. NO console will dominate UNLESS the other companies quit.
XBox won\'t dominate unless everyone else quits. There are well over 400 developers out there. You have four consoles. Two of which have a headstart on the XBox and Gamecube. NOBODY is going to dominate; this is going to be a bloodbath. Like I said, Square will do wonders for XBox\'s credibility. But it will take alot more than Square to help anybody dominate this generation.
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well if you were actually into computers like me and alot of other people you would know that Windows is the worst OS there is on the market, but because it is the most popular OS for PC hardware people like you who don\'t know **** about computer end up getting it, and everytime you see that blue screen pop up you think it\'s the program that messed up when it\'s actually the DLL\'s that windows uses that couldn\'t handle the overload and packet\'s of the program, why is Macentosh OS so much more money and why does it only run with Mac hardware and why does it have more sales them MS, CAUSE IT IS A BETTER SYSTEM AND OS!!!!, but if you were smart and didn\'t want to spend all that ****ing money for a decent computer then what you would do is what I did, and get LINUX for PC, which doesn\'t crash every other day, and did you know that Windows ME was released with over 2000 known bugs, but MS didn\'t want to waste time to fix them so they released the OS anyways, What makes you think they won\'t do it with XB, and that folks is why I will not even consider getting an XB untill I get to play it and try it out, stop being fanboys and look into what your spending your money on...
PEACE :)
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@iReS is right. Windows has lots of probs. More than any other OS. But b/c it\'s already so mainstream and there is mainly no competition they cut lots of corners and get away with it b/c people think "oh these are just normal pc problems" and they\'re not. They\'re normal Microsoft problems.
Now a console will be different, that\'s true. But it still makes me skeptical.
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EmporerRob, welcome to the world of reality, you and me seen to be the only ones that exspect our money\'s worth when we buy a product.
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Originally posted by @iReS
well if you were actually into computers like me and alot of other people you would know that Windows is the worst OS there is on the market, but because it is the most popular OS for PC hardware people like you who don\'t know **** about computer end up getting it, and everytime you see that blue screen pop up you think it\'s the program that messed up when it\'s actually the DLL\'s that windows uses that couldn\'t handle the overload and packet\'s of the program, why is Macentosh OS so much more money and why does it only run with Mac hardware and why does it have more sales them MS, CAUSE IT IS A BETTER SYSTEM AND OS!!!!, but if you were smart and didn\'t want to spend all that ****ing money for a decent computer then what you would do is what I did, and get LINUX for PC, which doesn\'t crash every other day, and did you know that Windows ME was released with over 2000 known bugs, but MS didn\'t want to waste time to fix them so they released the OS anyways, What makes you think they won\'t do it with XB, and that folks is why I will not even consider getting an XB untill I get to play it and try it out, stop being fanboys and look into what your spending your money on...
PEACE :)
1-I rarely get blue screens, and I use my computer a lot, for a lot of different things.
2-People like me? **** off you piece of ****. Don\'t assume anything about me, just because you frequently have problems. Maybe it\'s your stupid ass that doesn\'t know what they are doing.
3-I know what I\'m spending my money on bitch.
4-So what if WinME has bugs? Consoles and OS\'s are VERY different things.
5-A fanboy? I addressed that before you said it. You must have a short attention span.
And Ktulu, I\'ve said twice now that it wouldn\'t mean too much alone, I said combined with half a dozen other reasons, and I even listed them.
[Edited by EThugg on 12-22-2000 at 03:08 PM]
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Ethugg you are very biased and you are not looking at the facts, every person here who uses MSW will admit to it being a ****ty OS and that it crashes alot, and if you knew anything about computers then you would admit it too, but you havn\'y because you are a MS fanboy, which is fine by me if that\'s what you want then go for it, but you are trying to say that windows is a good OS when we all know it isn\'t, in fact it is the worst PERIOD!
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ok, now say it with me
Windows and Microsoft Sucks!
Don\'t buy windows blowme either!
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would everyone stop posting ffx might be xbox exclusive because that would never happen
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see EthuGG?....even chrono who is a respected poster can even say that MSW sux ass and is the worst OS on the market, why do you keep lying to yourself EthuGG?
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Originally posted by @iReS
Ethugg you are very biased and you are not looking at the facts, every person here who uses MSW will admit to it being a ****ty OS and that it crashes alot, and if you knew anything about computers then you would admit it too, but you havn\'y because you are a MS fanboy, which is fine by me if that\'s what you want then go for it, but you are trying to say that windows is a good OS when we all know it isn\'t, in fact it is the worst PERIOD!
1-Being the worst doesn\'t = being bad. Say you like 3 flavors of ice cream, you\'ll like one less than the others. It\'s the worst of the 3, that doesn\'t make it bad.
2-I\'m not a MS fanboy, I don\'t like whiny bitches complaining about something when it\'s not all that bad. Maybe your a pessimist, and im a optimist? :D
3-I use Win98 and I\'ll admit no such thing. Win98 works fine.
4-It\'s your OPINION that Windows is the worst. Don\'t try to pass off opinion as fact. You hate windows. I don\'t mind windows. We agree to disagree, but you are not in a position to declare Windows being the worst OS as fact. Who are you? A journalist for a major PC site/mag? A tech support person? A hacker? I don\'t think the average person has the number of problems that you think they do. Of course, me and Soulgrind disagree on the amount of ppl who have had problems with PSX, and needed to get a new one. But unlike you, I didn\'t state PSX was a piece of **** as a fact, I simply said in my experience, a lot of ppl had problems. Keep opinions and facts seperated.
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Originally posted by @iReS
see EthuGG?....even chrono who is a respected poster can even say that MSW sux ass and is the worst OS on the market, why do you keep lying to yourself EthuGG?
windows has a self destruct mechanism
while for the first few days to a week it appears to work good, then at that point... it blows up
Icons mess up, it crashes... I mean what excuse does MS have the Internet Explorer Crashes! Its their own darn software!
Its also a VERY SAD day when a newer OS AKA Windows Blowme, is worse then the OS before is Windows 98
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Originally posted by @iReS
see EthuGG?....even chrono who is a respected poster can even say that MSW sux ass and is the worst OS on the market, why do you keep lying to yourself EthuGG?
I lie to no one. Me and chrono often disagree.
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Originally posted by Chrono
Originally posted by @iReS
see EthuGG?....even chrono who is a respected poster can even say that MSW sux ass and is the worst OS on the market, why do you keep lying to yourself EthuGG?
windows has a self destruct mechanism
while for the first few days to a week it appears to work good, then at that point... it blows up
Icons mess up, it crashes... I mean what excuse does MS have the Internet Explorer Crashes! Its their own darn software!
Its also a VERY SAD day when a newer OS AKA Windows Blowme, is worse then the OS before is Windows 98 [/B]
I aagree, everything I\'ve heard about ME was negative. But what IE crashes? If you mean on ME, ok. If you mean on 98 or generally, I have no clue what your talking about, as I rarely have such problems.
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Originally posted by EThugg
Originally posted by Chrono
Originally posted by @iReS
see EthuGG?....even chrono who is a respected poster can even say that MSW sux ass and is the worst OS on the market, why do you keep lying to yourself EthuGG?
windows has a self destruct mechanism
while for the first few days to a week it appears to work good, then at that point... it blows up
Icons mess up, it crashes... I mean what excuse does MS have the Internet Explorer Crashes! Its their own darn software!
Its also a VERY SAD day when a newer OS AKA Windows Blowme, is worse then the OS before is Windows 98 [/B]
I aagree, everything I\'ve heard about ME was negative. But what IE crashes? If you mean on ME, ok. If you mean on 98 or generally, I have no clue what your talking about, as I rarely have such problems. [/B]
ok, so you agree on this...
now why did MS release such a piece of sh*t?
Beacuse why would they have to make something better?
are they afraid linux is going to come and take over?
see the point?
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Actually it isn\'t. Windows 98 is much more buggy and bloated than other windows because if the illegal IE integration. It\'s YOUR opinion that win98 is fine. GUI wise it is, but it is a piece of **** OS. I crash twice a day, and the clean computers at the library crash alot too. I am not even gonna mention windowsME
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I\'m sure MS is worried about any competition. As I would expect any company to. I never said MS never releases bad products, but Win98 is a fine OS, and not everything MS does is bad. They do plenty of good work, and if you took MS products off the market, it would take anywhere from 5 years to a decade (if not more) for the industry to get back to normal. They have done a lot to contribute to the advancment of the PC market, and to downplay all their accomplishements, and hype up and harp on their problems and their bad products, is one sided and unfair.
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iok EthuGG, I will admit it is my oppinion that windows is **** but I do program OS\'s not windows or anything major but I do know how, and I got an open end linux which meens I can program it the way I want to make it work for what I need it for, and in my oppinion linux is much more stable then windows which most people will agree with me on, but at the same time windows ha much more support from developers, hence gamers do not get linux cause they games are not supported my linux, but I think it is gay to have these argument, just get what you want and support what you want, this way everyone is happy
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Originally posted by Animal Mother
Actually it isn\'t. Windows 98 is much more buggy and bloated than other windows because if the illegal IE integration. It\'s YOUR opinion that win98 is fine. GUI wise it is, but it is a piece of **** OS. I crash twice a day, and the clean computers at the library crash alot too. I am not even gonna mention windowsME
If you crash twice a day, YOU have problems. Win98 is fine in my opinion, that doesn\'t make your opinion fact. I run a ftp, a website, do a lot of multimedia things, and play a lot of games on my computer. I leave it on 24/7. nI use Win98 and have a prob once, maybe twice a week, and 90% of the time, it\'s because I\'m doing 10 things at once, so don\'t tell me Win98 is a ****ty OS. If it doesn\'t serve your purposes, don\'t use it, but quit your ****ing whining pussy.
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Originally posted by @iReS
iok EthuGG, I will admit it is my oppinion that windows is **** but I do program OS\'s not windows or anything major but I do know how, and I got an open end linux which meens I can program it the way I want to make it work for what I need it for, and in my oppinion linux is much more stable then windows which most people will agree with me on, but at the same time windows ha much more support from developers, hence gamers do not get linux cause they games are not supported my linux, but I think it is gay to have these argument, just get what you want and support what you want, this way everyone is happy
Ok then. See? No blood was shed in this argument! :D
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Originally posted by EThugg
I\'m sure MS is worried about any competition. As I would expect any company to. I never said MS never releases bad products, but Win98 is a fine OS, and not everything MS does is bad. They do plenty of good work, and if you took MS products off the market, it would take anywhere from 5 years to a decade (if not more) for the industry to get back to normal. They have done a lot to contribute to the advancment of the PC market, and to downplay all their accomplishements, and hype up and harp on their problems and their bad products, is one sided and unfair.
You never answerd my question... LOL
I guess that means you have no answer..
Microsoft didn\'t contribute, they dominated
they took the OS from xerox!
And of course it\'ll take the industry awhile to catch up because there\'s nothing to fall back on...
You lost this argument by not answering my question.. of course you will NOT fess up to it, but you can shut up now
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Originally posted by Chrono
Originally posted by EThugg
I\'m sure MS is worried about any competition. As I would expect any company to. I never said MS never releases bad products, but Win98 is a fine OS, and not everything MS does is bad. They do plenty of good work, and if you took MS products off the market, it would take anywhere from 5 years to a decade (if not more) for the industry to get back to normal. They have done a lot to contribute to the advancment of the PC market, and to downplay all their accomplishements, and hype up and harp on their problems and their bad products, is one sided and unfair.
You never answerd my question... LOL
I guess that means you have no answer..
Microsoft didn\'t contribute, they dominated
they took the OS from xerox!
And of course it\'ll take the industry awhile to catch up because there\'s nothing to fall back on...
You lost this argument by not answering my question.. of course you will NOT fess up to it, but you can shut up now [/B]
They stole the OS from Steve Jobs, not Xerox. MS released a piece of **** cause they can. What didn\'t I answer? And you didn\'t explain what you meant with IE either....:(
[Edited by EThugg on 12-22-2000 at 04:03 PM]
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I think we should stop arguing about this, we are gamers and we buy the things that appeal to us, and if you want to use windows then that\'s cool, but for some of us it doesn\'t siut us just as Mac or Linux doesn\'t siut all people either, and as for games and consoles, get the one that appeals to you in that perspective also :D
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Originally posted by EThugg
Originally posted by Chrono
Originally posted by EThugg
I\'m sure MS is worried about any competition. As I would expect any company to. I never said MS never releases bad products, but Win98 is a fine OS, and not everything MS does is bad. They do plenty of good work, and if you took MS products off the market, it would take anywhere from 5 years to a decade (if not more) for the industry to get back to normal. They have done a lot to contribute to the advancment of the PC market, and to downplay all their accomplishements, and hype up and harp on their problems and their bad products, is one sided and unfair.
You never answerd my question... LOL
I guess that means you have no answer..
Microsoft didn\'t contribute, they dominated
they took the OS from xerox!
And of course it\'ll take the industry awhile to catch up because there\'s nothing to fall back on...
You lost this argument by not answering my question.. of course you will NOT fess up to it, but you can shut up now [/B]
They stole the OS from Steve Jobs, not Xerox. MS released a piece of **** cause they can. What didn\'t I answer? [/B]
hmm... and why can they release a piece of ****?
CAUSE THEY ARE A MONOLOPLY! If they screw up or not make something good only the consumer loses, not them beacuse nobody is going to make something better.
boy it takes a lot to cram something in your little head!
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Originally posted by @iReS
I think we should stop arguing about this, we are gamers and we buy the things that appeal to us, and if you want to use windows then that\'s cool, but for some of us it doesn\'t siut us just as Mac or Linux doesn\'t siut all people either, and as for games and consoles, get the one that appeals to you in that perspective also :D
yes, the argument is over
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lol.....I shouldn\'t have started this, the Mods are gonna kill me for starting this and my rank isn\'t even that good so I might get banned, THANX GUYS! :)
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Originally posted by Chrono
Originally posted by EThugg
Originally posted by Chrono
Originally posted by EThugg
I\'m sure MS is worried about any competition. As I would expect any company to. I never said MS never releases bad products, but Win98 is a fine OS, and not everything MS does is bad. They do plenty of good work, and if you took MS products off the market, it would take anywhere from 5 years to a decade (if not more) for the industry to get back to normal. They have done a lot to contribute to the advancment of the PC market, and to downplay all their accomplishements, and hype up and harp on their problems and their bad products, is one sided and unfair.
You never answerd my question... LOL
I guess that means you have no answer..
Microsoft didn\'t contribute, they dominated
they took the OS from xerox!
And of course it\'ll take the industry awhile to catch up because there\'s nothing to fall back on...
You lost this argument by not answering my question.. of course you will NOT fess up to it, but you can shut up now [/B]
They stole the OS from Steve Jobs, not Xerox. MS released a piece of **** cause they can. What didn\'t I answer? [/B]
hmm... and why can they release a piece of ****?
CAUSE THEY ARE A MONOLOPLY! If they screw up or not make something good only the consumer loses, not them beacuse nobody is going to make something better.
boy it takes a lot to cram something in your little head! [/B]
Sorry, but companies that have lots of competition still release ****ty products sometimes. It has nothing to do with a monopoly. I haven\'t lost this argument chrono, so until you give up, or the thread is closed/deleted, it\'s still on! :D
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Originally posted by EThugg
Originally posted by Chrono
Originally posted by EThugg
Originally posted by Chrono
Originally posted by EThugg
I\'m sure MS is worried about any competition. As I would expect any company to. I never said MS never releases bad products, but Win98 is a fine OS, and not everything MS does is bad. They do plenty of good work, and if you took MS products off the market, it would take anywhere from 5 years to a decade (if not more) for the industry to get back to normal. They have done a lot to contribute to the advancment of the PC market, and to downplay all their accomplishements, and hype up and harp on their problems and their bad products, is one sided and unfair.
You never answerd my question... LOL
I guess that means you have no answer..
Microsoft didn\'t contribute, they dominated
they took the OS from xerox!
And of course it\'ll take the industry awhile to catch up because there\'s nothing to fall back on...
You lost this argument by not answering my question.. of course you will NOT fess up to it, but you can shut up now [/B]
They stole the OS from Steve Jobs, not Xerox. MS released a piece of **** cause they can. What didn\'t I answer? [/B]
hmm... and why can they release a piece of ****?
CAUSE THEY ARE A MONOLOPLY! If they screw up or not make something good only the consumer loses, not them beacuse nobody is going to make something better.
boy it takes a lot to cram something in your little head! [/B]
Sorry, but companies that have lots of competition still release ****ty products sometimes. It has nothing to do with a monopoly. I haven\'t lost this argument chrono, so until you give up, or the thread is closed/deleted, it\'s still on! :D [/B]
I\'ve just figured out that no matter what I say you are still not going to agree that micrsoft is a monopoly... people like you are not worth my time and for some reason I forget that. MS is a monoloply the govement said so you seem to be one of the few people who think they are not. Stop cloging up the forum this argument is OVER
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The government says a lot of things, so what? The argument wasn\'t supposed to be about monopolies or even windows, but about Square, and their impact on XB. I stand by my arguments that I\'ve made and will add 1 thing. I had said before that no one console will dominate. I said that with the belief that Square was Sony exclusive and that EA would do little things for XB but nothing major. If Square switched sides, it\'d change everything. XB had more going for it than PS2 ports. If they snagged any exclusives from Square, they\'d have a big advanage, unlike before when I said everything would even out and they\'d split the mass market evenly. The MS side would have more going for it if it happened. Thats all Im saying.
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How many times a week are we going to have to deal with a stupid topic such as this one? sheesh.
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This is me :rolleyes:
This is me giving a rat\'s ass :rolleyes:
Personally I would like to see Squaresoft do different games than just FF RPGs. I loved FFTactics and it proved they could do something different and well.