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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Chrono on December 21, 2000, 08:24:36 AM

Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Chrono on December 21, 2000, 08:24:36 AM
I normally don\'t post negative news about other consoles, but i\'ve been saying that the x-box will either

1.) Be delayed
2.) or be Debuffed to reach a resonable price

well, at least in europe it took option number 1

see daily radar
http://www.dailyradar.com/news/game_news_6376.html

make sure you read the article, and read this quote: "The demand for Xbox is so high that we have revised our forecasts and we feel that we can ship many more units this way. We were always going to build a factory in Europe, but we have brought it forward slightly."

Boy are they full of themselves and are in for a big surprise, I expect a delay in japan and possiblily the US into 2002.... I\'ve been doing some good predicting lately, first "Something Fishy in March" now "X-Box Delays"
I should become a game system forcaster :)
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Chrono on December 21, 2000, 08:43:41 AM
what I find interesting is the fact that the x-box uses generic parts... why would they have to delay it if its hard to make enough of them. There is another reason
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: ProfessorX on December 21, 2000, 08:52:41 AM
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what I find interesting is the fact that the x-box uses generic parts... why would they have to delay it if its hard to make enough of them. There is another reason


1. The GPU is not generic.

2. I think it\'s a bold move! They came out and said the demand is there and they don\'t know if they can meet a Global launch!

What do you want them to do? Launch a system and not have enough for the demand? At least gamers from Europe will have a console on launch day!
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Chrono on December 21, 2000, 08:55:15 AM
ProfessorX ,
Gamers will give up waiting and play MGS2 and ZOE and GT3 and many other great PS2 games, and you know it
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Jumpman on December 21, 2000, 09:23:20 AM
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Originally posted by Chrono
ProfessorX ,
Gamers will give up waiting and play MGS2 and ZOE and GT3 and many other great PS2 games, and you know it

Agreed 100%.I rather play those games then wait for the X-Box to come out.Oh and can\'t forget about the NGC.It will own fall/winter 2001 if the X-Box doesn\'t come out by then...
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: ProfessorX on December 21, 2000, 09:31:38 AM
Oh I agree 100%! I just like the fact that they were being honest. People will not wait they are going to buy a PS2 if they want to play those games! I have one now cause I\'m not waiting to play madden 2001 for Xbox. When Xbox does come around though it\'s trade in time for me.

PS2 will always do well there is no denying that! I just liked the MS was admitting they didn\'t know if they can handle a global launch considering the demand.
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Chrono on December 21, 2000, 09:34:10 AM
I said a delay would happen, I was right
I now say more delays will happen

not cause of shortages, its cause they don\'t know how to keep the price at 300...
Keep in mind my track record is 2 of 2 now :)
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Dr Yassam on December 21, 2000, 10:46:53 AM
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Originally posted by Chrono
I said a delay would happen, I was right
I now say more delays will happen
not cause of shortages, its cause they don\'t know how to keep the price at 300...


Really? Then how do you explain the US/Japan launch which is still on schedule!

You were partially right, but only about Europe, and it\'s not really a surprise (so don\'t get too smug :D :p)

We all know the differences which exist in Europe, ones which mean EVERY new console arrives there last. Not only are there many different languages to cater for, but the TV system is also different (PAL). Therefore if the XBox launched in Europe along with the rest of the world, that would have been the first time EVER for a console.

Therefore whilst the XBox announcement is disappointing for Europeans (including myself in the UK), it has zero effect on the larger US/Japan market (except making sure the XBox doesn\'t suffer from PS2-like shortages!).

[Edited by Dr Yassam on 12-21-2000 at 01:56 PM]
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on December 21, 2000, 11:13:31 AM
XBOX sucks!!!
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: mm on December 21, 2000, 11:16:43 AM
and it took adan all of  2 words to drag this educated argument down to the sewer.  take a bow, friend.  you recieve the coveted "daily lesson in ignorance" award.  enjoy it.

mm
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Samwise on December 21, 2000, 11:56:08 AM
So much for their WORLDWIDE LAUNCH! :(

That\'s just crappy. Well, Europe bites the dust. AGAIN.

BTW, did you know that Europe bought more PSX than USA? And still we get f*cked every time.
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: fastson on December 21, 2000, 12:07:04 PM
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Originally posted by Adan
XBOX sucks!!!


:laughing: you got that right Adan!!! Usted consiguió eso derecho! (I dont know if this is right I used Altavista translator!)

:laughing:

/FASTson
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Nplayer-2 on December 21, 2000, 01:06:26 PM
Good move by a company intent on avoiding Sony\'s problems, or a sign of more bad news to come? Discuss.

" Xbox Delayed in Europe

Xbox: Microsoft has delayed the European
launch of Xbox until early 2002.

The machine was set to roll out throughout the world
in Q4 2001. But the company has decided to delay
the European launch until 2002, possibly as late as
March.

The British trade press was this morning coming to
terms with the loss of the year\'s big console launch;
few believe Nintendo\'s Gamecube will arrive in the
next 12 months. Officially, Microsoft is saying that the
delay has been put in place to avoid the possibility of
shortages. The company has watched the deeply
flawed launch of PlayStation 2 and has clearly learned
the salient lessons.

A European delay, while terrible news for European
games, is a prudent move. Mistakes made in the U.S.
and Asian launches can be rectified before the
European launch; and the company has given itself
manufacturing breathing space.

But it gives Sony a full 18 months to establish
PlayStation 2 as the dominant gaming brand in
Europe, including a second holiday season.

Speaking to MCV, Xbox European boss, Sandy
Duncan said, "The demand for Xbox is so high that
we have revised our forecasts and we feel tht we can
ship many more units this way.

"The downside is that the launch will miss Christmas
2001 in Europe, but this is not a problem. We have
spent time talking to the trade and the main thing is
that we announce a launch date and stick to it."

http://www.fgnonline.com/fgn/news/16860.html

18MONTH lead for PS2 in europe? face it nintendo has NOT said when the euro launch will be and i guarantee you it will not be in 2001, with PS2 all alone in europe(for 18 MONTHS) it just can\'t be beat(there atleast)....

i\'m sure people will want to wait atleast 6months for MGSX:rolleyes:

well i guess it\'s offical:

SONY PS2 HAS WON EUROPE
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Nplayer-2 on December 21, 2000, 01:08:45 PM
high demand= MS employess forced by MS to pre-order xbox\'s:D
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Nplayer-2 on December 21, 2000, 01:10:10 PM
where is reverendXbox? i like to see what he thinks:D
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Samwise on December 21, 2000, 01:25:51 PM
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Originally posted by Nplayer-2
high demand= MS employess forced by MS to pre-order xbox\'s:D

Lol, that\'s a funny thought... :laughing:

But PSX has sold more in Europe than in the United States. Now PlayStation 2 will have two holiday seasons and a whole lot of time compared to Xbox. This can\'t be good for MS. I still think Xbox will sell well, but not exceptionally well.

But the good news is that I\'ll have more time to get the money for one... :D
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: ChocoboSquared on December 21, 2000, 03:39:32 PM
I know that we are talkin\' bout Xbox here, but I wonder if the Gamecube will arrive on time.....
Do you think there\'s gonna be the same amount of demand for the Gamecube and the Xbox as there was for the PS2?
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Animal Mother on December 21, 2000, 04:40:50 PM
I hope the Gamecube arrives on time!
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: kopean on December 21, 2000, 04:42:45 PM
Assuming that delay also happens to Australia, i am kinda glad even though i am gonna buy xbox cuz it will give me more time to enjoy my sexy ps2.
I also like to ask that whether anyone here excited about gamecube or not cuz i doubt that it will survive console war. Some people here actually excited by it, but i don\'t get it cuz ngc\'s launch date is similar to xbox and it\'s specs aren\'t much better than ps2.
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Animal Mother on December 21, 2000, 04:58:19 PM
t\'hell with the specs. Nintendo makes very interesting and innovative games. I want Metroid 4 (wish miyamoto did this one), ZeldaCube, Luigi\'s haunted masion, and Resident evil 0 (well come out on Ps2) and Perfect dark 2!
I\'m not nuts, but I set up a bank account about 10 years ago just for video games and computers, and, well, I have nearly every game console that was rampant in the last 10 years, and there is alot of money left in there like $9000
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Jumpman on December 21, 2000, 07:26:18 PM
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t\'hell with the specs

Right on!Even though NGC specs are only slighty better than PS2,its got way better graphics it! Cmon lets have a picture war kopean!Try and find a PS2 realtime pic that beats the best NGC graphical game out,have fun! And the games speak for themselves really.

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Metroid 4 (wish miyamoto did this one)

Actually he is supervising it.So he\'ll be making some decision in the game as well.And Retro Studios knows what their doing,Nintendo wouldn\'t make them as a second party if they wern\'t good.

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Resident evil 0 (well come out on Ps2)

Are you 100% sure there.Capcom did state it was an NGC exclusive.

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I also like to ask that whether anyone here excited about gamecube or not cuz i doubt that it will survive console war.

Yes so the NGC won\'t survive cuz..you said so?Honestly,when you say a console won\'t survive you have to bring up fatcs about how it won\'t,other wise you got nothing.You can\'t just say it won\'t survive without backing it up.I can tell you that it WILL survive easily.How many years did the N64 survive?4.And wasn\'t it supposed to be a mess up by Nintendo?Yes,it quite was.And didn\'t Nintendo say they wouldn\'t make the same mistakes they made with the N64?Yes, they quite did.If the N64 was crap according to most of the people here and still managed to last 4 strong years, wouldn\'t it just make sense that the NGC will survive the console wars because it supposed to be a hell of a lot better than the N64 was?Yes it does make sense to anyone. Even you.So bring up some reasons why you think it won\'t survive cause I got plenty on why it will.Have fun.:D

 




Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: StAnZo on December 22, 2000, 02:09:43 AM
Well, i might be wrong but this has blown the possibility of Metal Gear Solid appearing on the X-box Before PS2.
I read a thread on this forun about 2 months ago, this hinted at Microsoft trying to get MGS out before sony.
Bad luck eh? :D
Title: Any europeans waiting for the x-box? well, you get to wait longer
Post by: Samwise on December 22, 2000, 03:27:22 AM
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Try and find a PS2 realtime pic that beats the best NGC graphical game out,have fun! And the games speak for themselves really.

That\'s funny, the last time I checked GameCube wasn\'t released yet.
Title: Ha !
Post by: Knotter8 on December 22, 2000, 05:00:50 AM
There it is, like I also said a some time ago.
Both Xbox and NGC will probably launch Q1 2002.
Gives my PS2 time to establish itself as the big
Force.
I should say to Sony though, they\'d better get
the big games ready on time ; Bouncer, Getaway, Darkcloud
Onimusha MGS2, and so on.
Knotter8