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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ChocoboSquared on December 24, 2000, 03:16:24 PM
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I was just wondering because i thought it looked real funky
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It looks really weird. But the cube.ign.com people said that its very comfortable.... But I can tell right now, this thing isn\'t going to work with fighters, 2D or 3D. The Gamecube is going to have a lot of 3D platformers... You can tell by the way the controller is made. The camera buttons, 3D sticks, etc etc...
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Originally posted by Nu Gundam
It looks really weird. But the cube.ign.com people said that its very comfortable.... But I can tell right now, this thing isn\'t going to work with fighters, 2D or 3D. The Gamecube is going to have a lot of 3D platformers... You can tell by the way the controller is made. The camera buttons, 3D sticks, etc etc...
What camera buttons??? Oh you mean the Camera Stick. I think it is a bunch of bullcrap for people to say it is bad for fighters, when the SEGA Genesis controller only had 3 face buttons, but no one complained about it not being good for fighters. Heck, the GBA has 4 face buttons (which is more than the Genesis), and people still haven\'t complained about the Genesis controller being weak for fighters.
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The Dreamcast controller has the same layout with the d-pad and analog stick and it has plenty of good fighters such as Soul Caliber, DOA, Street Fighter etc...
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It does look odd, but I believe it will be comfortable when in use. Looks like an extended Dual Shock.
And Hawk, the standard DC pad is horrible w/Street Fighter...
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the best joystick ever made or maybe not
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sega genesis had a 6 button pad also, in case u never knew.
best pic i could find
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genesis 0WNED the SNES!
nintendo will be sued by the surgeon general after it releases the ncube controller for causing CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROE in millions of kids worldwide.
mm
[Edited by mm on 12-24-2000 at 07:47 PM]
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Originally posted by mm
sega genesis had a 6 button pad also, in case u never knew.
best pic i could find
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagehost.auctionwatch.com%2Fbin%2Fimageserver.x%2F00000000%2Fvintinted%2FDSCN1289.JPG&hash=96e3926a97072222f2384d8994fbac33641f07f0)
genesis 0WNED the SNES!
nintendo will be sued by the surgeon general after it releases the ncube controller for causing CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROE in millions of kids worldwide.
mm
[Edited by mm on 12-24-2000 at 07:47 PM]
That controller was sweet. I had a few of \'em. It was impossible to play Street Fighter 2 on the Genesis with a 3 button controller. But, the 6 button kicked total ass. I always perfered the Genesis controller over the SNES. SNes felt too "small" for me. SO, I bought one of those grip things that added depth to the size and made it easier to hold. That thing was sweet too, cept it was bright purple...Err..I\'m rambling
Oh yeah, the controller looks funky. But all Nintendo controllers look funky at first. Anyone remember the Virtual Boy controller? Now...That was screwed up looking.
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man, i remember playing "super street fighter : chamionship edition" for DAYS on that 6 button controller. even when Mortal Kombat 2 came out, the 6 button ROCKED! GO SEGA!
mm
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Don\'t dis gamecube. I am going to get one. This is what I noticed during my time in this forum. I noticed that there is no prejudice for other consoles in this forum except the Xbox. All, or most of you, Respect the Gamecube, Ps2 and Dreamcast like me. I am going to get all 3 of those systems except Xbox. Just because I don\'t like Microsoft for OTHER reasons than Xbox, Xbox fanboys call me a Ps2 fanboy. That is ignorant. It\'s like they don\'t realize that Microsoft it not a Video Game company.
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I\'m not really dissing the gamecube I\'m getting one too ya know, gosh so touchy.
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ill be shocked if i get a ncube. the big "N" ripped me off with the N64. only a fool once. ill give the xbox a shot, any console that squaresoft supports, so do i.
mm
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Yeah the controller has serious weirdness problems indeed. It looks weird,but I know it will feel great cuz Nintendo said so and they always seem to have a great controller.
About the Sega 6 button controller-it sucked!The three button controller was pittyfull enough,but the later version of it was just as uncomfortable in my opinion.
SNES owned Genesis everyone!!!!!They totally kicked Sega\'s ass in that great war!:P:P:P:P:P:P
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oh yeah, SNES really had the genesis by the throat in the sports department. *COUGH*
the SNES didnt have any games to beat the genesis untill AFTER THE GENESIS was dead. DKC 3 for example.
lets not get in a "dead" console debate, please, even though the SNES lost. ehhe
mm
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oh yeah, SNES really had the genesis by the throat in the sports department. *COUGH*
Yes but what else did the Genesis have besides sports? *COUGH*
the SNES didnt have any games to beat the genesis untill AFTER THE GENESIS was dead. DKC 3 for example.
bah!I bet I can name more great SNES games that you can for Genesis!Square,EA,EAD,Capcom,Rare,...Nintendo had the big names bak then...until Sony came along of course.
lets not get in a "dead" console debate, please, even though the SNES lost. ehhe
If the SNES lost then why did it have a longer life-span than the Genesis?
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I liked both. But, the Gensis beat the SNES to death, until after it was long gone. The SNES kept playing catch up to the Genesis. I loved them both though. The SNES had Mario/Metroid/Zelda/ and such.
The Genesis had Konami/Sonic/EA/ and others.
And damnit MM. You had to mention Donkey Kong didn\'t ya? I hated those games, after the first one. :mad:
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genesis had sonic, and theres two people in this world, people that loved mario, or people that loved sonic. mario was just too slow for me. NOONE like jumping puzzles.
the SNES lasted longer cause
1.nintendo didnt abandon it
2.it was a kiddie system
i see you brought EA into the mix. wanna throw up madden 92 on either system and lie to me that the SNES was better?
mm
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Um are you 100% sure that the Genesis best the SNES? I was almost 100% sure that Nintendo was the only company to win two straight generations in a row(NES,SNES).Can you please confirm it?
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key word "almost"
ill give the big "N" the nes over the master system, barely
but the SNES over the genesis, hell no.
u have to convince ME that the SNES won, not the other way around.
look into my flag and see why :)
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props to onlinerat for the pic!
mm
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genesis had sonic, and theres two people in this world, people that loved mario, or people that loved sonic. mario was just too slow for me. NOONE like jumping puzzles.
Well I always thought Sonic was a cheap rehash of Mario,and a bad one gameplay wise.I thought Mario was more unique,more innavative and challenging,while Sonic was jump over this and run through that.
NOONE like jumping puzzles?Well that would explain why most Mario games always seem to out-sell Sonic games...
the SNES lasted longer cause
1.nintendo didnt abandon it
2.it was a kiddie system
1.Sega didn\'t abandon the Genesis either,they just made add-ons for it,and we all know how they turned out.FAILURES.
2.What does being kiddie(which I disagree with)have anything to due with this?
i see you brought EA into the mix. wanna throw up madden 92 on either system and lie to me that the SNES was better?
Ok I admit there.But...would you lie and say Street Fighter2 was better on Genesis?
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but the SNES over the genesis, hell no.
u have to convince ME that the SNES won, not the other way around.
Well,what would you define as a "win".Are you judging from a gameplay stand point,or the traditional "most units sold" stand point?Since I can\'t argue with your opinions then I cannot convince you,but I don\'t know for sure how many they sold overall,so I guess I\'m in a bind here.Unless of course you know for sure which system sold more.
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sigh, i failed to realize you wanted a challenge in this OR you would not be picking apart my posts piece by piece.
yeah sonic was a ripoff of mario. they just didnt add in incredible screen movment, better sound, better texturing, did i mention the speed? so basically, sonic = mario on CRANK!
yes addons, are bad. BUT the playstation WAS going to be the SNES addon, what happened there?
kiddie consoles sell well. they targeted the NUMBER ONE gaming demographic back then, KIDS!. why do u think the PSX did so well? cause the big "N" is STILL targeting KIDS!
hell yeah, i would say SSF rocked WAY more on the genesis, ANY hardcore fighting gamer would agree. the SNES was mathmatically a better system. it displayed MORE colors at a higher resolution [4x\'s]. did this mean much? apparantly not.
thanks for playing...
[Edited by mm on 12-24-2000 at 09:44 PM]
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im back!
about the GC controller
I think it looks kinda weird but every site says that it is really good
I hope it wont be as bad as the N64 or DC one
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It looks like a slight rip off of a PS controller, in a bad way, ya know?
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yeah sonic was a ripoff of mario. they just didnt add in incredible screen movment, better sound, better texturing, did i mention the speed? so basically, sonic = mario on CRANK!
Hey,I can\'t argue with YOUR opinion,but you have to realize that every Mario game out-sold every Sonic game(please don\'t bring Mario Through Time up :().Obviously,people must of thought Mario was a good game,they always sold big.Beter sound?I thought it was kind of annoying...
yes addons, are bad. BUT the playstation WAS going to be the SNES addon, what happened there?
I don\'t think anyone here would complain on that one.If it wasn\'t for one person srewing the other,we wouldn\'t of saw the PS2.But then again I wouldn\'t have had to buy another console to get the games I wanted...
kiddie consoles sell well. they targeted the NUMBER ONE gaming demographic back then, KIDS!. why do u think the PSX did so well? cause the big "N" is STILL targeting KIDS!
Well it just shows how unintelligent Sega was not realizing the number one source of gamers back then.But I beg to differ about Nintendo STILL being kiddie...
hell yeah, i would say SSF rocked WAY more on the genesis, ANY hardcore fighting gamer would agree. did i ever mention the superior sound channels on the genesis over the SNES? i guess now would be a good time
Well thats a shocker im my book.Rescently I played that game on Genesis and thought it flat out sucked.The controls were terrible,the graphics and sound were identical to the SNES game,did I mention the controls?I thought it was the control setup that ruined it,the SNES version of SF was simpler and easier to understand.And controls do affect gameplay,and since the Genesis SF had horrible controls I deemed it crappy compared to the SNES SF.
thanks for playing...
No problem.:)
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yes, i wonder why the mario games "might have" [no statistical proof] sold more than sonic games. the parents bought what the children wanted, so us teens were left do what we could to buy the games we loved.
sega has ALWAYS been a innovator in the console world. nintendo waits and copies. thats been thier stratedgy since day one.
the controls were terrible on the genesis verion u say, since u just played it. [coincidence?] did u use the 3 button OR the 6 button pad? or would u prefer using the SNES shoulder buttons for moves?
how could the control be screwed up? how many COUNTLESS fighting games have used...
lk/mk/hk
lp/mp/hp
maybe just ALL THE CLASSICS!
this is pointless man, no need to fight with me about the 16 bit console war. i was there. out of cusiosity, how old are you? this may alleviate certain questions and doubts i have
mm
[Edited by mm on 12-24-2000 at 10:11 PM]
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MM you are a retard. The SNES a kiddie system? What an absolute load of crap. Even still each to his own opinions, neither of you seem to point it out.
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ramm, that will be the last time u call me a retard.
SNES = kiddie
im sorry u were deprived as a young child and mommy wouldnt buy u one, ok?
mm
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The SNES was a kiddy system, but bosted MASSIVE 3rd party support (much like PSX\'s today) It evolved from a kiddy system, to a system with lots of mature system, that was a good one to get. I had both a Genesis and a SNES, and I believe the SNES had better graphics. Especially when Miyamoto began expierimenting with polygons (star fox)
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yes, the SNES was a superior machine technologically speaking. mode7 graphics like rotation and scaling [big words for rammstein] allowed games to look slightly better, albeit at a price. a HEFTY price
mm
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Back to the subject....
Do you think the GC controller will be able to compare to the PS2\'s???? I wonder if IGN would do an article comparing the two controllers.....
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IF YOU LIKE THE PS2 CONTROLLER, YOU\'RE GONNA LIKE THE GAMECUBE\'S!!!! . If you look at it, it is almost like PS2\'s... They have things poking out of the sides that I think is comfortable. Also, do you think the people of cube.ign.com is gonna diss their beloved console.
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THe fact of the matter is I would love to have my old SNES AND Genesis right now with all the old favorites. Especially ToeJam and Earl (T-T-T-Toe Jam B-B-B-Big Earl). That is a classic that deserves to be remade. (I heard it is being made for DC) but I digress.
As for the GCN controller, I always have a hard time with Nintendo controllers at first but I always grow to love them. Most of the time they are the best at what they do. As for the GCN controller being uncomfortable the same can be and was said about the Dual Shock.
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Isn\'t it ironic that the great wise one, MM calls Nintendo systems kiddy and yet he comes back with childish insults.
If you believe that I was \'deprived\' as a child you really are a pathetic fool. By the way I did own a SNES; also I enjoyed it greatly unlike you. Oh yes and I had a MD as well.
Big words for me? Come on MM i\'m sure you could do better than that. No wait, scratch that..
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its no use ramm. i suspect trin will be along shortly. ill just let it go at this. hate to see something go to far
mm
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AW MAN! ... and I just got here too. I\'ve got some definitely strong opinions on the whole SNES/Genesis matter too but I\'ll sum it up really quick for anyone with a miniscule attention span (ADD): mm\'s right.
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MM is right Jumper, the Genesis DID win the 16bit console wars. According to Sega Visions magazine, the Genesis outsold the SNES (Nicknamed Genny and Sneeze) in nearly every major retail chain by a margin of 2:1, 3:1 in some areas. It wasn\'t until the last year and a half of the Genesis\'s life that the SNES was neck and neck in sales with it. Then, while Sega let their console die in preperation of a new generation, Nintnedo keep the SNES alive and in turn sold many more consoles in it\'s later years.
The Genesis also boasts the second largest software library for any game console in history, over 900 games released world wide. The number one largest library of games goes to Sony with around 1,200 titles released world wide.
If you\'re talking about the SNES beating the Genesis in Gameplay.. well you really can\'t argue that point since it\'s only an opinion and not a fact. The Neo-Geo could have dominated the 16-bit generation in some people\'s minds.
According to the demographics, the SNES was also the kiddy system of the 16 bit generation as well. Only about 23% of the SNES\'s total userbase was over 18 according to InterAction magazine. The Genesis had roughly 45% of it\'s userbase being over 18. Userbases for certain Add-on\'s like the SegaCD was upwards around 75% for the 18+ crowd. While the SNES filled their system up with "Donkey Kong 3", "Mario", and "Zelda" type games, the Genesis/Sega CD was producing games like Tomcat Alley, Ground Zero Texas, and Sewer Shark. Sierra (Who owned InterAction Magazine) was origianlly going to port over 10 of their titles to the Add-on, including Leisure Suit Larry 5 (Which is only meant for the 18+ crowd). However that plan was scrapped by sagging SegaCD sales and the fact that Night Trap was pretty much fored off the market by the US Congress. Willy Beamish (Dynamix/Sierra), Nova 9, and Rise of the Dragon were among the few titles that did make it.
It is also fact that Nintnedo hevily censored games on their console while Sega keep their censorship loose (For the time). Remember the white blood in mortal kombat? How many side scrolling beat-em ups were there that had a good percentage of women and minority enemies?
Finally, yes the SNES did beat the Genesis pretty badly in hardware.. but it had very few features that the Genesis COULDN\'T reproduce. It just couldn\'t use those features as extensively as the SNES could. Zyrinx Software/Scavenger proved that the Genesis could do: Rotating Background Graphics, Rotating Background Textures, 3D Sprite Objects, 3D Vector Graphics, Real-Time Zoom, and Cartridge Video Compression with their game demo "Hardwired". Weither it was actually released or not, I don\'t know.. but it was for the Genesis\'s standard hardware, no DSP chip or CDDrive needed. Considering the hardware it was running on, it\'s opening sequence is absolutely GOREGEOUS. The Demo wasn\'t half bad either. ;) Unfortunately, the process for doing these techniques wasn\'t discovered until pretty late in the Genesis\'s life (1994) and were difficult to impliment. That\'s why there weren\'t really any games that used them. The SNES on the other had was designed with these effects in mind, so implimenting them was far easier and cheaper.
If you can find the game or demo from an emulation site.. DOWNLOAD it and check it out. It\'s well worth the time spent to see what a little clever programming could allow the Genesis to do.
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MM is right Jumper, the Genesis DID win the 16bit console wars. According to Sega Visions magazine, the Genesis outsold the SNES (Nicknamed Genny and Sneeze) in nearly every major retail chain by a margin of 2:1, 3:1 in some areas.
Your quoting a Sega Magazine, you weren\'t expecting accurate results were you ?
Personally I don\'t know who won in the end in the US market, Sega certainly jumped out of the gates quick no question and it took about a year for Nintendo to begin to turn the tables with games like Street Fighter 2 and Mario Kart. SNES come home like a freight train in the 16 bit wars, did it eventually win the US market, who\'s to say, it may of in the end, though much to close to call. Did SNES win the Japanese market, easily and did they lose the European market, again easily. The bottom line is Sega and Nintendo did tie 50/50 market share in the US and to this day it is unclear who won.
According to the demographics, the SNES was also the kiddy system of the 16 bit generation as well. Only about 23% of the SNES\'s total userbase was over 18 according to InterAction magazine. The Genesis had roughly 45% of it\'s userbase being over 18. Userbases for certain Add-on\'s like the SegaCD was upwards around 75% for the 18+ crowd. While the SNES filled their system up with "Donkey Kong 3", "Mario", and "Zelda" type games, the Genesis/Sega CD was producing games like Tomcat Alley, Ground Zero Texas, and Sewer Shark.
So what does that make Nintendo 64 and it\'s 50%+ over 18 US owners. Why do people consider a 16 Bit console \'kiddie\', crist it couldnt produce realistic graphics if it wanted too. SNES had all the major 3rd Party mature games on Genesis like Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat and Desert Strike, also who can forget Alex the Kid, Ecco and Sonic, if they aren\'t kiddie games I don\'t know are.
It is also fact that Nintnedo hevily censored games on their console while Sega keep their censorship loose (For the time). Remember the white blood in mortal kombat? How many side scrolling beat-em ups were there that had a good percentage of women and minority enemies?
As far as significantly censoring games for SNES are concerned it happened once which was Mortal Kombat, that game was released at a time of anti-videogame violence capagins by the US Senate which Nintendo did not want to be the brunt of, there was also no form of video game ratings at that time either.
[Edited by Trintius on 12-25-2000 at 09:30 AM]
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SNES was a kiddie system. Its obvious. How else can you explain Mortal Kombat having sweat instead of blood? Its pointless.
And even EGM and other magazines have mentioned the Genesis outselling the SNES. Go to http://www.classicgaming.com , and they have articles on it also, I believe.
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H3ll, maybe Snes was a kiddie console!
But it WAS my dream-console. Quess why? I was a kid when I owned one! But it had magic. Maybe the magic was effective only towards children. Maybe it was like "only-kids-see-fairies" kind of thing, you know?
But I can\'t really say that snes was kiddie console because I haven\'t played it from my teen-point-of-view, if you catch my point here.
But let me ask, why can\'t you be young-minded? What frustrates you so much in Snes? Were the games too easy? :)
I never liked Sonic etc. but maybe that was because I was a KID. But some grown ups played Snes; h3ck, my dad played Super Mario Kart hundreds of times with me! He also played mario\'s etc. and he never complained about their kiddiness. It\'s obvious and clear that they were designed to LOOk childish, but many cakes look worse than they taste.
I\'ve enjoyed some old Snes-games trough Snes -emu and I like them still. But maybe that\'s because I owned them once, and I catched the magic of them when I was a KID.
But what I said above is kind of stupid. Look at Rayman Revolution for PS2. It looks childish. But it isn\'t for young children. No, not at all.
Too hard. Too large.
Maybe I\'m trying to back up snes here a little, but I\'m not any fanboy ( anymore, that is :) )
I\'m just comparing things from MY POINT OF VIEW.
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Originally posted by Joyda
H3ll, maybe Snes was a kiddie console!
But it WAS my dream-console. Quess why? I was a kid when I owned one! But it had magic. Maybe the magic was effective only towards children. Maybe it was like "only-kids-see-fairies" kind of thing, you know?
But I can\'t really say that snes was kiddie console because I haven\'t played it from my teen-point-of-view, if you catch my point here.
But let me ask, why can\'t you be young-minded? What frustrates you so much in Snes? Were the games too easy? :)
I never liked Sonic etc. but maybe that was because I was a KID. But some grown ups played Snes; h3ck, my dad played Super Mario Kart hundreds of times with me! He also played mario\'s etc. and he never complained about their kiddiness. It\'s obvious and clear that they were designed to LOOk childish, but many cakes look worse than they taste.
I\'ve enjoyed some old Snes-games trough Snes -emu and I like them still. But maybe that\'s because I owned them once, and I catched the magic of them when I was a KID.
But what I said above is kind of stupid. Look at Rayman Revolution for PS2. It looks childish. But it isn\'t for young children. No, not at all.
Too hard. Too large.
Maybe I\'m trying to back up snes here a little, but I\'m not any fanboy ( anymore, that is :) )
I\'m just comparing things from MY POINT OF VIEW.
I have to agree with Joyda there
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"Your quoting a Sega Magazine, you weren\'t expecting accurate results were you ?" - Trinitus
Fine, if you want to ignore the statistic because it came from a Sega Magazine, then I don\'t EVER want to hear you spout ONE line from a Nintendo magazine or Nintnedo affiliated site since it is all probably inaccurate propoganda.
Now never did I say that it wasn\'t a close race. Nintnedo did win hands down in Japan.. an RPG powerhouse is sure to win there. The Sega won in Europe, even you don\'t disagree. The US market was an extreemly close race.. again no argument. However, over the course of the Sega Genesis\'s life it continually outsold the SNES on a year to year basis until it\'s last year when the margin between them narrowed considerably. SNES very well could have sold more consoles in the US, and if it did.. it did so after the Genesis had been discontinued.
"So what does that make Nintendo 64 and it\'s 50%+ over 18 US owners."
Well first of all, I\'ve never heard that number. Now I\'m not saying it\'s not true.. I\'d just like you to provide a source of info be it a magazine, website, or television show. I think the N64\'s kiddy image comes from it\'s barage of cutesy/colorful barrage of mascots which adorn nearly EVERY SINGLE Nintnedo product several times over. It\'s very probable that the N64 has 50% 18+ userbase.. good games will do that. I\'ll play a colorful - cartoony game for a while if the gameplay is good. However it\'s nice to have a console with the image, the games, and the content which appeals to older audiences.
Yes, the Genesis (Like the PSX) has it\'s share of child oriented games. However the Genesis also had a great deal more content geared towards older audiences than the SNES did. Games like Road Rash, Shinobi, Crue Ball, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Mortal Kombat (Blood version) and the sheer number of sports titles attracted more casual adult gamers than SNES could with Mario or Zelda. Now not to say that the SNES didn\'t have any games that appealed to more mature audiences.. the Genesis just had far more of them.
Oh, and yes Trin.. Nintnedo did have marginally stricter censorship than Sega. It\'s part of the reason why there were so many Sega Genesis developers right from the get go, and it\'s also a part of the reason why the PSX had as much developer support as it did right off the starting line. The Xbox is also gaining a strong list of developers, many of which program for the PC (Just like the Genesis/CDrom and PSX), partly because of their willingness to keep censorship at an acceptable minimum.
It should also be noted that while Nintnedo consitantly complies quite willingly with the US Congresses anti-violent games sentament, Sega has been the champion of trying to lower censorship in games. Every time this issue comes up, Sega is right there to defend the rights of the gamer, and it was with Sega\'s persistant drive that first videogame ratings system was adopted. (According to SegaVisions and their guest editorial by Ken Willams, president and CEO of Sierra.) If you would like, I will provide issue and page numbers so that any Sega fans with their own collections of the mags can further verify this information.
"But let me ask, why can\'t you be young-minded?" - Joyda
I can, but I want a console that satisfys ALL my needs and tastes as a gamer. The SNES and N64 just haven\'t provided enough interesting content in all genres and age ranges to warrant my full support. Sega and Sony were two console companies that have come the closest to providing me with that ideal.. that\'s why I support them. I may even pick up the Xbox eventually if they wow me by fully and exceedingly fulfiling my gaming tastes & needs despite my negetive views about Microsoft. Basically, if the can wow me in the same way Sony wowed me by allowing Resident Evil to be made for their console. Shooting people in a game is one thing.. but watching little chunks of brain and flesh mingle with fire and high velocity steel pellets in all it\'s 3D glory is a whole nother beast. ;)
Durring the 16 bit generation, I was also an avid PC gamer.. my favorite genre\'s being gory shooters like doom and adventures like Monkey Island. RE:1 was a perfect mix of both game types.
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Yes, I bought PS2 for one reason:
It suits my tastes for games BEST.
We don\'t excactly know what kind of games X-box will get; maybe X-box will suit my tastes even better; but PS2 is here now and it succeeds in its job almost 100 prosently, so why to complain? :)
But Nintendo offers me other kind of satisfaction, it fulfills some things PS2 can\'t. So does Dreamcast and even X-box; that\'s why I\'m quite open-minded and not biased towards any console. That\'s why I\'d want to buy all consoles but I know I can\'t buy any other this gen consoles than PS2; and I bought it so I made my choice long time ago :)
I agree with you, Sonyfan. Listen to your favors.
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hey I was reading through the first page and I wanna say SNES isn\'t lost I still got mine. I play Chrono Trigger all the time it\'s so fun especially with that new game+. hehe I gotta a playstation 2 for christmas from Shopko haha I guess it helps that your mom is a supervisor and works there almost 24/7 and a sister that in stocks everything eheh. anyway Yeah that controller looks pretty freaky.
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in case, noone saw it yet, THIS is the gamecube controller
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In case no one realised yet, the poster above me is a spanner !
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spaNNer?
oh i forgot, guys down under like to call each other "tools"
/me shrugs
mm
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spaNNer?
What\'s wrong with that, sh[/i]it mickey mouse don\'t tell me you dunno how to spell spanner :rolleyes:
oh i forgot, guys down under like to call each other "tools"
Thanks for reminding me, tool.
/me shrugs
Shrug away mm, i\'ll just smack myself in the head and wonder why I even bother replying ....oh yes I remember now, yes you made one of your usual biased, uneducated, childish, flame bait posts and you let your guard down allowing me to jump in with the first insult in what will bring this entire topic into a massive flame war with me versus 50 other pro Sony \'kiss your arse mm\' supporters.
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oh yeah, i forgot, yer a child and got nothing better to do but throw insults around. i grow weary of u trin. yer VERY predictable, and you\'ve lost yer touch. i used to enjoy yer witty [biased] comments, but not any more. maybe a pokemon edition N64 pic under yer name will liven u up a bit.
:)
mm
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I haven\'t lost nothing, it should be obvious no one here is even close to my elitist plateu and thus for this moment at least im a retired champion.
Regent Webber and Oyuki were the only ones that could form some resemblence of a worthy technical discussion, Ryu occasionally puts up a challenge but is not worth of my precious time and effort. But alas this place has well and truly gone down the toilet since then, I guess I was responsible for driving them away, perhaps im my own worst enemy.
At any rate mm, you are the child of this forum with the insight of a 13 year old forum newbie. Oh and don\'t think I can\'t make you snap, I can infuriate anyone here, anytime :D
[Edited by Trintius on 12-26-2000 at 10:40 AM]
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lol, u couldnt infuriate an infant.
u mindlessly rant and babble TRYING to prove how smart you think u are. its pathetic, really. im sorry youve wasted all this time. im sure the http://www.teletubbies.com forums would welcome you.
denial is the first step kid, please learn that
mm
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Heh...what\'s worse is you idiots spend all this time thinking (and believing) im actually serious. If there was ever need for the phrase \'Thicker then a Tool Shed\' then it is now.
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how about the phrase
"why animals eat thier young"
i now understand.
mm
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Hey..this is the first time I have seen an administrator troll.
Calling the Snes a kiddy system has got to be the dumbest thing that ive ever heard in my life. Hold on, maybe your talking about the diff Snes system. the one they released in your little world of yours.
The Snes i know had some great RPGS. Final Fantasy Series, Breath of Fire Series, Illusion of Gaia Series, Lufia Series, Y\'s Series, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG, Earth Bound...DO YOU YOU WANT ME TO GO ON.
O you like fighting games. No problem: Take your pick from, Mortal kombat, Art of Fighting, Tons of Dragonball Z ,Fatal Fury, Street Fighter/Alpha and World Heros, Samauria showdown. Whoops those game all sound kiddy too.
And whats this crap about the Snes not having sports. Sweet jesus. Then Madden NFL 92\' - 97\' must have been imagined by me. NBA Live seires kicked butt, as did NBA Jam, NBA Hang time, NBA Allstar, and NBA Showdown. the Snes also had 4 NHL games released for it (havent played) Last but not least, Super punchout.
You wanted action, you got it: megaman X, Act Raiser, Metroid, Out of this World, Wolfenstin 3-D, Earth Earthworm Jim, Donkey Kong Country, Super mario World, Gradius, Final Fight Contra 3...
These are just a few that I can recall that were on the Snes. Many of these titles went to the playstation that made it the great system it was today. Think about that before you go labeling a system as kiddy.
In the words of PA,
You know that hole where you insert pie. Yeah? SHUT IT.
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u all like the controller??????
i think it sux
it looks like a cheap rip off that you can get for about half the price of the original made by gamester or summit
it looks like a little childs toy that a 6year old kid got for christmas
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What do you guys define "kiddy" as? Some people say Zelda:Oot/MM was kiddy because there was no blood or goriness, etc. Can you really say that you didn\'t enjoy them??? I\'ll admit that i hated Mario 64, but not because it was supposedly "kiddy". It was just boring (but let\'s not get into that). Now, how about Dark Cloud, is that kiddy??? The PSX had its share of "kiddy" games. Who cares if the characters look baby-ish or if there is no blood? It matters if you enjoy the game.
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A few thngs. First, the SNEs was not kiddy. It had a slighly younger demographic than the Genesis but had a huge array of titles for all demographics and in all genres. Second, the Genesis is not a clear winner in the 16 bit generation. The SNES won the Japanese market, the Genesis got the early lead in America but the SNEs outsold it in terms of userbase by the end of its life. The genesis did clean up in Europe and other markets though. On the Gamecube\'s controler I think its great. haven\'t held it so I can\'t make final judgment but it looks to me like a very well designed controler. Aside from FPS, which are ackward on any console, I can\'t think of one genre that it isn\'t good for. fighters have the D pad and a good selection of face and shoulder buttons, 3d paltformers would be a dream, RPGs work on any console. I\'m not sure aobut sports but thats because I don\'t play sports games, so I don\'t know how the controles work, but I can\'t see what advantage the Dual Shock would have over the Gamecube\'s for them. If you don\'t like the controler say why, maybe you can think of a genre that wouldn\'t work, I\'ll try and come up with a configuration that would work well.