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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: meddude2000 on January 03, 2001, 11:48:06 PM
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are these USB ports?
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if they are then there is no stopping MS. if they aren\'t then heck, MS have mad a terrible mistake!
think about it. if they are USB\'s then this thing will be able to plug into any device. you\'ll be able to plug in keyboards, cameras etc without any problems at all. seems like a great idea for such a console as this.
i hope they\'re not USB\'s the edges look too rounded!
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I don\'t think they are, but I\'m sure it has USB ports on the back (just like the PS2 does).
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no those arent USB ports, the DC has one just like that for all four of it\'s ports, but they are circles instead of ovals.
Eric Jacob
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i think the xbox looks nice, but the controller looks too complex.
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HOPE NOT
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I doubt they are USB ports. Though what are the disadvantages if they are?
Looking at this pic, comparing it to my DVD-Rom tray, the X-Box is a decent size for a console. At least head on.
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Sorry to disappoint you guys (really?) but those four plugs are actually USB Ports. They shaped it like that to prevent USB devices meant for Computers (or anything else but the X box) to be plugged in the X Box, might malfunction it or sumthin\'. Here\'s a link, look for the 16th and 21st line of the FAQ:
http://www.activewin.com/faq/x-box.shtml
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Interesting. Trying to be a PC but not a PC. j/k :p
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Those are most definitely controller ports.
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What malfunctions? If you don\'t have a driver for a device.. the device does nothing.. just like on a PC. If it runs on a Windows2k kernal, how difficult would it really have been to add in basic Mouse & Keyboard drivers? Not very difficult I\'m guessing. So I suppose all those PC FPS fans will just have to buy the KB & M combo from good ole MS instead of using their old ones. Heh, I wonder how long it\'s going to be before someone realizes they can make a quick buck by inventing a PC USB to Xbox USB converter?
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Definitly controller ports. Not usb crap.
That design totally rocks.
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They are of course controller ports, but doesn\'t Xbox use special USB connectors capable of 12 Mbit/s? I think that\'s why. So even though it\'s USB you can\'t connect the usual PC stuff - I think. ;)
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Actually, I\'d prefer it if they were standard USB ports. It would be nice to be able to use old PC devices or shop around to find the cheapest price instead of having to buy it from MS or get some 3rd party crap.
BTW: Shadowflare.. some of the info on that site you posted is wrong. It doesn\'t say anything about the Xbox\'s controller ports being proprietary and it screwed up the PS2 vs Xbox compairison. Now it\'s PS2 that has DVD playback built in with Xbox having to have special software installed on the HDD. Also, if it\'s going to the length of saying that broadband will be a future upgrade to the PS2.. they should have put the HDD as a future upgrade as well since the modem and HDD will be one package that slides into the expansion bay in the back. No details on size were given, but I think I remember Ken Kuteragi saying that they\'d like the HDD to be in the "Tens of Gigs" range. (Which really translates into about 10-20). And lets not forget that the PS2 HDD is removable, allowing you to keep as much data as you want as long as you\'re willing to buy more HDD\'s.
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They both have dvd. Will xbox have zoom,progressive scan etc is the question.
If so that would be worth purchasing a remote. this thing better be cheap. I hope its not like sega and the broadband adapter. o it will be inexspensive then whamo 59.99
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No, unless the decision has been reversed, the Xbox will not have DVD playback out of the box. You will have to buy the software & remote bundle seperately and then install it onto the Xbox\'s HDD before you can play movies.
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Hope this clears some things up:
IGN Xbox: Let\'s talk remotes. Can you go into the requirement for DVD playback?
J. Allard: A big piece of feedback we got back from people [regarding the DVD playback on the PlayStation 2]: one was with the experience with game controller rather than a movie style remote, which was a disappointment. They were let down and disappointed with the experience that was in the box. We got tons of feedback from people saying "put a remote for movie playback in the box. Do it right because we don\'t want a game controller." But a lot of gamers came back and said "you tell me that Xbox is all about games, and that Microsoft is all about games, and you\'re asking me about movies?" We sort of combined those two very vocal opinions and said "we\'re not going to put a remote in the box." If it\'s really true that people are buying it as a movie machine, and not a gaming machine, that\'s not really our objective with Xbox. Our objective is to deliver the best gaming experience possible. We combined those two pieces of feedback and said "the right thing to do is to make it a peripheral." People were totally comfortable paying the extra $20-30 bucks to get the remote, particularly if that meant that they could get one at Christmas for the hardcore gaming set, and get a better experience with a remote.
IGN Xbox: You can still use the controller as well, right?
J. Allard: No, you\'re going to have to buy a remote. You won\'t be able to watch a movie without buying the remote package, and I suppose we can also make it controllable by the controller, but the feedback\'s been really clear about that one.
IGN Xbox: So you\'re not just buying a remote, then.
J. Allard: It will unlock the movie playing capability of the box. We want to make it as simple as possible for the consumer. Whether it\'s a widget that you install somewhere or a disc that you install or something like that is to be disclosed, but it\'s going to be very, very simple.
IGN Xbox: This doesn\'t affect DVD playback for games though, just movies.
J. Allard: Right.
Just checking. A DVD option with the hardcore gamer in mind, or simply a way to avoid having to pay the DVD licensing fees on every Xbox console? You be the judge. We\'ll be digging deeper at this weekend\'s CES.
-- Vincent Lopez
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definetely controller ports. but either way, what\'s the BIG PRObLEM?
the design. now that I see it so clearly I gotta say that I\'m not that impressed. Still something I expected.
I\'m still not sure wich one would win the beauty competition. PS2 or X-box. Maybe PS2 because I like blue better than green.
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1) Yes, they are USB ports and include all the benefits of USB ports.
2) They are custom and there is no way to plug computer peripherals up to them.
So they are both USB ports and controller ports but for the average gamer who doesn\'t care what USB means in terms of performance they are just \'controller ports\'.
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Its all about making money...!! :burn: They are going to make everthing proprietary and add ons. Don\'t give anything away when you can charge for it. I know its all about making money, but it comes to a point when you ask what are they giving me for my money..??
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Originally posted by kirath
Its all about making money...!! :burn: They are going to make everthing proprietary and add ons. Don\'t give anything away when you can charge for it. I know its all about making money, but it comes to a point when you ask what are they giving me for my money..??
Chances are that they will show you before they charge you, but thats not confirmed or anything. ;)
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kirath, that goes for all of the console companies right?
DC: Broadband modem, VMU
GCN: Broadband Adapter, Modem, (This is all that has been announced)
PS2: HDD-Broadband adapter, Remote, Memory card
X-Box: DVD Remote Pack, (This is all that has been announced)
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Guess the ps.2 will be the console with the most possibilities with USB ports and a FireWire(aka iLink aka IEE1394) all the other console will just have their standard connectors.
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Okay. So I have to pay for a friggin\' remote and whatever addon they decide. Because the controller wouldn\'t be comfortable?
Um. Who are they to decide for me? They say gamers decided, what gamers? Where did this come from?
Not USB ports was stupid. But, not when they can charge for those also.
Ugh.
They are worse then car salesmen. Nickle and dime you to death.
Still! I\'ll buy one! :D
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I have a question. How much is this damn thing going to cost? Microsoft overprices everything it puts out. Just wondering if anyone heard anything.
Sorry if someone already said something like this. Im kinda new to the forums.
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Originally posted by Special-K-
I have a question. How much is this damn thing going to cost? Microsoft overprices everything it puts out. Just wondering if anyone heard anything.
Sorry if someone already said something like this. Im kinda new to the forums.
well... nobody knows
but people know if its over 300 its DOA
thats why they had to make the specs smaller so they can afford to release it cheaper
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"Not USB ports was stupid. But, not when they can charge for those also. Ugh. They are worse then car salesmen. Nickle and dime you to death." - Living in Clip
Well that\'s not what get\'s me upset. Every console out there, even the PS2, has proprietary controllers. What get\'s me pissed is that you KNOW anti-Sony fans will just let this pass without raising a stink about it. Yet when Sony says up-front that old PSX multitaps won\'t work with the PS2 (Which is understandable since they aren\'t built right for the Fully analong DS2), those bastards try to make it sound like Sony did that intentionally just so they could suck more money out of your wallet.