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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: CygnusXI on January 05, 2001, 06:40:39 AM
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I\'ve read that ND\'s new PS2 game is going to be the first (they claim) to effectively utilize all three processors on the PS2 (EE,VU0,VU1). They say (ND) that we will be astounded.
I hope they are right. No, for those wondering, it\'s not a Crash game. Yes Crash will be on PS2 and other next-gens, but the game ND is talking about is waaaaay under wraps. The only thing they say is that it will be "character based", whatever that means.
They also believe, through their enlightened understanding of the PS2, that it (PS2) is 100x more powerfull than PSX.
Just a few thoughts.
Anyone want to chime in?
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let\'s just hope they\'re tellin\' the truth
But I think they know what they\'re doing, cuz on ps1 they were among the best programmers around, they have done things even sony itself didn\'t think was possible, I\'m looking forward to their new creation
any idea when they\'re gonna reveal more?
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hmmm... that\'s an early hype :)
I hope it won\'t get over-hyped...
But now I promised my little-sister to come and take my place. This is the first time I give my place to her without a fight.
I hope I see some of you in the chat later this evening...
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yeah I\'ve been wanting to ask you guys about that, where is the chat?, how do I get there?, when do you guys go there?
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Originally posted by @iReS
yeah I\'ve been wanting to ask you guys about that, where is the chat?, how do I get there?, when do you guys go there?
Just press the \'chat\' link on the top of your screen here on the forum. I don\'t know when it\'s best to join. Perhaps in the evening USA time?
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I guess that is why we havent even seen a screen shot or heard anything more than "it will blow us away". They probably have zip, nil, scratch, zero, nada, you get the point. They are probably in the process of opening mouth, inserting foot as they tinker with the PS2. If we don\'t hear anything from them by April, you\'ll know I was correct :)
Eric Jacob
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OR they\'re just working on the game until it\'s finished and there are more PS2s on the market. If it really is that impressive I\'d sure as hell keep it a secret until I could reveal it with a big bang.
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Originally posted by Samwise
OR they\'re just working on the game until it\'s finished and there are more PS2s on the market. If it really is that impressive I\'d sure as hell keep it a secret until I could reveal it with a big bang.
Yep.. you would keep it as a secret, would anyone else? :D
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No, that is obviously not the reason. They are not trying to sell games, just prove they are the best. If they wait til more games are released, games made by other people will get better and more people will make games that are even better than theirs, defeating the whole point of waiting.
Release now: supposedly be the best graphics on the market = sell tons of games
Release Later: Run risk of having mutlitple companies beat you to the graphics punch. Sell less. Has less of an effect.
Eric Jacob
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hmmmmmm naughty dog making games for the ps2 eh and they say its not CRASH......sounds a little fishy to me. Well only time will tell, until then lets enjoy the games of other major gaming companies........like Squaresoft and Konami...................MGS2 and FF10........thats what everyone is waiting for
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*tusk tusk*
those naughty dogs eh. I loved crash team racing on the ps1. i wonder what they are gonna do next, it\'ll have to be pretty amazing if i know ND.
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Naughty Dog is talented programmers. They even made the 3D0 look decent with "Way of the Warrior". I\'m dissapointed that their first PS2 outing won\'t be a Crash game, as I love Crash.
I\'m sure they will come through though.
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
I guess that is why we havent even seen a screen shot or heard anything more than "it will blow us away". They probably have zip, nil, scratch, zero, nada, you get the point. If we don\'t hear anything from them by April, you\'ll know I was correct :)
Eric Jacob
I "know" you\'re wrong now. You\'ll know you\'re wrong in March.
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Heretic/Altered Beast....we\'ll see who\'s right then.
I look foward to seeing what they\'ll cook up, but don\'t expect the world, great graphics do not a good game make. Character based more than likely means more hop n bop like Crash, but with a new character obviously, let\'s hope the new character isn\'t annoying.
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Well, for sure the "game" exists. What we don\'t know is:
1. When?
2. How "stunning"?
3. Exact genre?
I think they are in advanced stages being as they were among the first with Dev kits. I just hope the game lives up to the mystery.
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character based does\'nt necesarily mean hop\'n\'bop. Crash was character based and so was tomb raider. It\' like when their is one main character that\'s kinda like a mascot or that the whole game centers around. Edios use to make pretty much all character based games. Remember their magazine adds where it would be characters striking there pose with the name of their game underneath it. That\'s character based.
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Few months before the official announcement of the PS2 I saw a magazine having pics from a project considered of being work from Naughty Dog for PS2.
The characters reminded a lot of Rare\'s(like donkey kong) style of design.The charatcers were very bizzare though.There was also a strange flying character.Pretty redish I can say the graphics were.Also there was a wired frame model included in one of the pics.From the pic you would say the model was highly polygon designed.
But I ve never seen anything else from that day.As if it never existed.
Has anyone else seen similar pics?
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Originally posted by CygnusXI
I\'ve read that ND\'s new PS2 game is going to be the first (they claim) to effectively utilize all three processors on the PS2 (EE,VU0,VU1). They say (ND) that we will be astounded.
I hope they are right. No, for those wondering, it\'s not a Crash game. Yes Crash will be on PS2 and other next-gens, but the game ND is talking about is waaaaay under wraps. The only thing they say is that it will be "character based", whatever that means.
They also believe, through their enlightened understanding of the PS2, that it (PS2) is 100x more powerfull than PSX.
Just a few thoughts.
Anyone want to chime in?
Where are you getting your latest information ?????
Also shingoku its well known that Naughty Dog has signed on with SOny as a 2nd party developer to provide exclusive content for the PS2, its also known that Konami now has the Crash liscense and is porting the game to all systems, and its further known that Insomniac is also a SOny 2nd party and will no longer be doing Spyro.
Altered Beast Step down from your soap box, for someone who didn\'t want a PS2 at launch but fully plans on getting an Xbox at Launch and loves the DC more than life itself you sure seem to spend alot of time here
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Didnt want a PS2? Well, I had no money, as I did witht he American DC. I had spent it all onthe system I still unfortunately spend it all on, saturn. I didn\'t want the PS2 because I had played demos of the launch games and none of it was for me. I will be buying an X-Box at launch because I feel the system, with Peter Molyneaux and his Lionheart Studios will give me games similar to the games I have loved by Molyneaux for years. I don\'t understand why any wanted a PS2 at launch except for a DVD player anyways. I have 3 friends with them and they ALL have more movies than games and just don\'t play the PS2 any more. I got one hooked on Shenmue, another on JGR, and another on import Saturn games. I will be buying one when I am impressed, I figure that will be around Twisted Metal Black comes out, the game which I figure will be the best on PS2 for years to come. There are other games I will like, but nothing can touch Twisted Metal 2 on PSX, maybe Black will though.
Soapbox? No. I am just sick of tired that people claim Bill Gates to be this evil man who runs an evil company. It is jealousy and fear, I\'m afraid which drives these people to say such things. I don\'t go around saying I hate Ken Kutargi (or whatever) because he made the PSX beat the Saturn.
Yes, I love the DC. It isn\'t my favorite system, not by a long shot, it is just the one I can, with this generation, effectively dump my money into and feel satisfied. What is your explanation for their useless bashing?
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by dbv23
character based does\'nt necesarily mean hop\'n\'bop. Crash was character based and so was tomb raider. It\' like when their is one main character that\'s kinda like a mascot or that the whole game centers around. Edios use to make pretty much all character based games. Remember their magazine adds where it would be characters striking there pose with the name of their game underneath it. That\'s character based.
Yes, it could be interpreted that way, but I did say \'most likely\' not definitly. It will most likely be a platformer, IMO. Rubens is behind it, his ONLY contribution to Naughty Dog was Crash. I doubt he\'ll stray too far. I\'m willing to be suprised though....:)
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Altered feat
Your obviously in the wrong forum. You have no intention, nor do you like much about the PS2, I am clueless to why you spend your time here the only thing you really do is post a long ass list of DC games your looking forward to, and making negative comments agaist the PS2.
Micorsoft deserves all the crap they get and thats what happens when you have 90+ anti-trust cases against you,
Do you know MS hired temporary employees gave them the same jobs as permanent workers let them work for MS for years and never gave them equal pay or benefits, thats evil and BS
You do know MS used its quick rise to power to deter all most oncomers from having a legitimate chance for making competitive products.
Yes MS has and evil side and people rightfully distrust MS more than alomost any company around,
so your sick opf people having alot of good reason for not trusting MS, doesn\'t make sense
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This is the game that will have "realistic flowing hair" I\'ll probably get it. It better not be somethin stupid
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I never mention any DC games I am looking forward to without mentioning PS2 games also. Besides,I thought we play games here, not systems. Anyone with half a brain would admit that limiting yourslef to one system is completely idiotic.
No interest in PS2 games? hmmm, weird how I always post PS2 games when people ask what games I am looking forward to. Why do I always find me defending myself? Read the stupid threads and find out what I am looking for. I will tell yuo, GAMES. X-Box looks to have the GAMES I am looking foreard to, much mroe so than PS2. PS2 has many games I want, but it doesn\'t look like a system I will be buying over 20 games for.
What does microsofts business have anything to do with you? Do you want the best product? Than, by your measure, since Microsoft buys everything out to get their way, you shoudl get an X-Box, after all, they are evil enough to do it.
Do you work for a company that dircetly competes with Microsoft? Probably not, than why do you hate microsoft? You aren\'t going to lose your job over anything Microsoft does. I trust MS with my money, why? They havent screwed me over. In fact, I laugh at people when they say that "my pc just crashed, errgghh I hate MS." Of course this is right after installing a program that isn\'t supported by Windows or whatever. I have never had Windows anything crash on me. I have had freezes, but you can get that on any OS.
Quit whining and play some games.
Eric Jacob
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Your do full of it Altered Beast, I\'ve really just grown tired of your self righteous rants.
Quit whining, you should practice a little of that yourself.
and I cannot believe you actually said this What does microsofts business have anything to do with you? Do you want the best product? Than, by your measure, since Microsoft buys everything out to get their way, you should get an X-Box, after all, they are evil enough to do it.
Do you work for a company that dircetly competes with Microsoft? Probably not, than why do you hate microsoft? You aren\'t going to lose your job over anything Microsoft does. I trust MS with my money, why? They havent screwed me over. In fact, I laugh at people when they say that "my pc just crashed, errgghh I hate MS." Of course this is right after installing a program that isn\'t supported by Windows or whatever. I have never had Windows anything crash on me. I have had freezes, but you can get that on any OS.
are you that ignorant, what you don\'t understand the importance of MS treating its labor force with diginity, I guess when you live an hour away from MS and you talk to these employees who\'ve working for MS with out Health, retirement, stock options, and fair wages compared to the a smaller portion of permanent employees then maybe you could possibly remove your head from your ass for just a moment to realize how completely ignorant your comment was. MS has over 90 lawsuits against them for this and discrimination cases. People invested 4-5 years knowing if they could just get into MS they be taken care of, but MS decided it wanted to save money by leading their temps down a 4 or 5 year path of empty possibilities.
Sounds like a company you should be proud to support. and Windows is the best product why?????
Cause the competition is unable to keep up now the MS has gotten so big. MS got lucky and because the PC market was so small and ballooned MS and Windows just became the 1st to be widely excepted, and unfortunately people who used Windows atr work decided to stick with that at home then one thing led to another and nobody wanted to try that newer system cause everyone neew someone else or already worked with Windows. Windows is not that great, I use it because I have very little choice, you find an OS that supports all that software and hardware you want to use, not to mention the amount of time I don\'t have to spend setting up components to work on MS let alone an unsupported OS. I don\'t hate MS nor do I hate Windows, but its time to make sure competition is given a fair chance to catch-up and compete otherwise MS and Windows is a monopoly
So lets not pretend you actually have a real clue to the whole situation either.
MS does deserve alot of the negative feeling towards them.
I have an Xbox on pre-order, but I probably won\'t excersice that option for awhile. There are just way to many good PS2 games coming out, and I\'d rather invest my money into Sony 1st for the main reason of I don\'t want PIII/ Nvidia PC component consoles to rule the industry. IMO that is a very large step backwards, games are cool and very important, but its equally important that Hardware gets guided away from standard technologies.
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So Microsoft deserves alot of negative feeling because they treat their employees with disrespect. What would I do in that situation? hmm, probably find a new job. I mean after a year, wouldnt you figure it out that stuff wasn\'t coming.
Microsoft can manipulate these people soley because they are too dumb to think for themselves. Go work at Apple, I am sure Steve-o would love the company. BTW, The little shops in China and Japan where your Sony products are made, are much worse in comparison than Microsofts. Errgghh, those jerks at Sony! Why don\'t they pay their workers more? Why don\'t they bring their work to America?
Didn\'t Sony have an antitrust case dealing with Circuit City? CC was only allowed to sell Sony game products or something? Seems kinda like a double standard there. Of course, that doesn\'t matter, because CC is just one store.
I am welcoming Microsoft into the console community with open arms until they screw up and pull a NES or PSX.
Funny, Sega has never won a generation, maybe they should start paying companies, developers, and stores to only sell/make their products. Then they would finish first for once! :D NES = #1, PSX = 1. Funny how both these systems are notorious for breaking very easily. So for Sega to bea tthe competition they need to A) make shoddy hardware. B) Pay off some select companies.
I admit, some of that post was made in ignorance, I was mad. This post makes alot more sense though. I try to have intelligent conversations, but they are normally ruined through bias, misdirected hatred, among other things.
Eric Jacob
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Altered Beast
MS a company making Billions of dollars a year can\'t fork over benefits for its work force.
I\'m sure most of those employees should just quit MS pack up there families and move from there family and friends to California to work for Apple.
Your missing the whole point and maybe one day you\'ll understand what\'s wrong with MS treatment of there temp work force. People stick with MS on false hopes of becoming permanent and reaping the bigger paychecks and benefits, Bigger than almost anyone else makes in Washington. DO you realize the average MS permanent employee minus the top 5 salary makers like Bill himself make over $300K a year. How would you like to be busting yoiur balls for a few years getting so close to the promise land just to have some company take a huge **** on you and watch everything you busted your ass for dissapear.
You obviously do not havfe a clue, and maybe someday you\'ll understand why this is Bull****. MS with all its Billions should be taking care of its workforce as a whole. I work for Boeing and I\'m part of a union and I get treated like a King compared to so many, and big comapnies ike Ford and GE, Genral Motors, and more all take care of there employees. but not MS they rather use all those Billons to pay lawyers, cause thats whats happening now.
I don\'t mind MS entrance in the console market, but I\'ll be damned if I\'ll help make them the top console company with there PIII based Nvidia PC in a shell console. I will probably get an Xbox but I\'m not so sure I would rush out at launch to get one. MS has money, they\'ll make others more competitive like SOny and Nintendo, Sega has its own hill to climb but under 0 circumstances am I willing to watch Xbox run away with the market cause thats a sad day.
and none of this peece\'s me as much as the fact that you\'ve been on this forum for a year and you are more willing to get an Xbox at launch then pick up a PS2
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This is more fun than a EThugg/Chrono shouting match!
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Originally posted by EThugg
This is more fun than a EThugg/Chrono shouting match!
Yeah!
lol
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Halo at launch, Munchs oddysee at launch, Peter Molyneaux games at laucnh (including the supposed GREATEST GAME OF ALL, Black and White), etc.
PS2 launchgames featured none that I wanted, or none that I couldnt get on PSX or DC if I wanted to (most I didnt), X-Box has a lineup that interests me. PS2 looks to be interesting around March, which is when I will probably buy one. thatscalled an opinion. I still want a PS2, but am far more psyched about X-Box, though I dont want to go to any of their BBS, because it will be tech heads and PC Gamers. I dont want any of that. This board is too fun, and enlightening. I have learned far more on here in the7 months I have been here than I will on any other message board in an even longer time. I came here originally to point and laugh, as my early posts would probaly point out. But have learned to give respect where needed. I also came to prove to my Sony fan friends that I wasnt a Sega Boy (I own every damn system, gimme a break), so now I know PS2 is going to be well worth owning, and I will be there.
XBox is just looking better to me, regardless of antitrust, underpaid employees (the american dream is not to get placed into a high paying job, the dream is work and receive a good pay. People who expect to come to microsoft to get hired full time for 300k+ deo not deserve the jobs, innovators deserve the job.), or throwning money around, I enjoyed PSX last gen and their was lots of money thrown around inthe form of Psygnosis, 989, Verant, etc. I don\'t care, I still played the games. That doesnt matter to me, I am looking for a good time, and X-Box looks to provide.
Eric Jacob
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XBox is just looking better to me, regardless of antitrust, underpaid employees (the american dream is not to get placed into a high paying job, the dream is work and receive a good pay. People who expect to come to microsoft to get hired full time for 300k+ deo not deserve the jobs, innovators deserve the job.), or throwning money around, I enjoyed PSX last gen and their was lots of money thrown around inthe form of Psygnosis, 989, Verant, etc. I don\'t care, I still played the games. That doesnt matter to me, I am looking for a good time, and X-Box looks to provide.
Sometimes you got take a stand.
Out of curiosity do you ever see the sun, where the hell do you get your money, where do you work ????
I mean I own one system, and will strugle to be able to buy a 2nd I will barely have time to play the great games one system let alone 2 not to mention you and your 4 systems, and the fact you have close to 50+ DC games already.
I mean what the hell else do you do besides play games, got a wife, kids, are you going to buy a house. I mean of course you have a job so where do you find the time to play all of those games while actually enjoying other aspects of life.
I\'ve asked you this before but I don\'t get it, I work 50 hours a week, make close to $70K ayear, I\'m desperately trying to save enough money to buy a house, and spend some time with my wife, and I can\'t afford what you do ??
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Ha, but alas, I am still a kid, still in high school, barely. But I am a manager at an office max and make pretty good money. I have nothing to spend my money on besides lunch at school, clothing, and videogames. What else is there? I have no time for a girlfriend, they cost too much and would take away from any time I would rather spend with my friends, etc.
Yes, I see the sun, unfortunately it is winter, and it is normally around 0 - 10 degrees out. Nothing else to do, might as well thrown on a couple blankets and play games. in the spring/fall/summer I am outside every day playing golf for my high school team, or football (used to, got a bad concussion, football isnt for me anymore!) etc.
No, I dont have 50+ games for DC. There arent 50+ game worth owning for DC. Maybe 35 really good ones right now. I have had about 25 DC games, but I am down to only 12 now, as I have had to sell/trade some as the perfect import or classic Saturn game comes along. Shipping systems (my doubles) is a very expensive thing too. I ship to all over (Brazil, Japan, AUS, USA, etc.)
So, yes, I have to sacrifice my money, which would go for useless thigs anyways and I buy every system that comes out, I own most of the systems released in America, and have played them all with in the last two weeks. But I have NEVER gotten a system at launch, well US launch anyway. I think that is dumb to do, you gotta wait until their are pleny of games you like.
I have already got a career plan ahead of me (hope it works out). I am going to major in Political Science and one day become a Senator, mayor, Congressman, etc. I want to serve my country and would die for the freedom I enjoy daily. Next war that comes up, you will see me on the front lines. And, if nothing gets out to my opponenets, it can fulfill my gaming needs in my off time. I dont think this is a hobby I will be growing out of. In college, if PS doesnt work out, I would love to go into game development, Iknow C++ extensively and love to learn more. This would also fulfill my gaming needs. I dont want a big house or fancy clothing or nice cars, I just wanna have fun. My wife better be a gamer, or at least tolerate my hobby :) After all, its better than hunting.
Eric Jacob
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Enjoy it while it lasts. College is a whole new ballgame.
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Actually, It looks to be much of the same. Although in college I will have other priorities (job, wife, etc.) I am most likely going to get full ride.
I am class prez. of my school. Also, my ACT/SAT scores along with some extra curricular work I have done is getting me into college with a near free ride. So after I go on my mission, I will go to college for 5 - 7 years (depends on the major) and should be more of the same. Videogames will still play a major part, I just wont be able to have all of them at my dorm (or where ever I live)
Eric Jacob
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I am class prez. of my school. Also, my ACT/SAT scores along with some extra curricular work I have done is getting me into college with a near free ride. So after I go on my mission, I will go to college for 5 - 7 years (depends on the major) and should be more of the same. Videogames will still play a major part, I just wont be able to have all of them at my dorm (or where ever I live)
Looks can be decieving. Pack yourself with 6 or so classes, hours of homework all the time, hectic schedules, huge papers and then try and dump videogames in all that, you\'re gonna have one hell of a time. Sure, you may claim to have a free ride but that is all on costs, in no way is college anywhere NEAR as easy as HS. HS is such a joke, but you\'ll understand after a year of college toughens your ass up. What things "seem" like and how they really are are very different. You think HS prepares you for college at all? You have no idea, but we all come to learn the easy way, or the hard way.
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I would only go to the classes which require attendance :)
Believe it or not, but I am a person of high intelligence, I haven\'t learned much since elementary school. This would exclude abilitites, computers, general history. Everything else was taught to me by my 9 brothers and sisters, all of which are older than me. Only going to the classes with required attendance would help me out alot. I would go on exam days and take the exams and get credit for the courses. I, of course, know that it can\'t be like that for all classes, or may not be like that for any classes, I realize what is up ahead and I will find time for my hobby. There are always weekends too. I havent ever been known to study, so those can be my days. :)
Eric Jacob
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If you say so. Talk to me after you have had some experience with it though. Just don\'t go cying to us when things get hard and your systems start to gather dust ;)