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Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: CelliCeL on January 05, 2001, 03:20:12 PM: Since everyone else has been posting x box news in the ps2 forum, i though i should just join the fun.

I thought the X Box graphic\'s were supposed to blow away the ps2\'s graphic\'s. lol

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fxbox%2Fnews%2Famazing.jpg&hash=8c289decbe280d6fad8513ecd10d019c81cb6313)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fxbox%2Fnews%2Fdirtdigger.jpg&hash=edea3c97f00b030b34ef92ecfa4a01d0ab86946a)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fxbox%2Fnews%2Fhowfast.jpg&hash=9af462e32ee9416cb8a1c8c116f34aac2e9cc5a2)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fxbox%2Fnews%2Findustrial.jpg&hash=4250ab78e7dade422d934f6354562d9fadf1827e)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fxbox%2Fnews%2Fscreamin.jpg&hash=c8f7c7b42bfe280893d6678e0c4dc6e912523477)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fgnonline.com%2Fmedia%2Fxbox%2Fnews%2Fsidebyside.jpg&hash=1cfd7c07c884a8c93a240f11a5a3928bf0ffc5fc)

Oh and here is the link to the site

http://www.fgnonline.com/xbox/news/16936.html
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: ho3j on January 05, 2001, 03:34:27 PM: PC shots...
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: mm on January 05, 2001, 03:39:13 PM: that article DOES NOT say they are PC shots.

if they are PC shots, they are pathetic. either way, im far from impressed

mm
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: EThugg on January 05, 2001, 03:48:18 PM: Those pics SUCK! I don\'t think that represents even the launch games quality, but if it is, XB is gonna be **** *graphically*. I still want Munch\'s Oddysee.
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on January 05, 2001, 03:51:00 PM: LOL! :laughing:
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: OHMYGOD on January 05, 2001, 03:53:01 PM: Thats ugly.
*cough* jaggies.*cough*
excuse me xbox fans.
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Lavan on January 05, 2001, 03:53:23 PM: It\'s obvious that these pics are early in development and will look a LOT better when the X-Box is released, however, I recall when similar early development PS2 pics were released the media and many anti-PS2 people jumped all over them. It will be interesting to see how they react to these pics...
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Unicron! on January 05, 2001, 03:58:05 PM: It has more textures than RRV but I prefer RRV graphically.By the way it has some nice effects and nice trees.
But are these XBOX pics?PS2 did better with its launch games
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Chrono on January 05, 2001, 03:59:14 PM: hmm.. my p2 400 can do stuff like that...
ROFL
People always say the ps2 is not powerfull, when they see this they will say the same thing... only difference is they have seen stuff in the future of the ps2 that looks REALLY good such as GT3, MGS2, ZOE and darkcloud
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: AlteredBeast on January 05, 2001, 04:04:04 PM: hmmm, those ARE PC shots, but even if they were X-Box shots, have you ever seen an online console game with as goodtextures? Didn\'t think so. I wold be disapointted,but this is PC, and this is online.

Eric Jacob
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Lavan on January 05, 2001, 04:07:38 PM: Those are good textures?

I need new glasses.
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: samanvahedi on January 05, 2001, 04:13:28 PM: How can I say this the right way......

PATHETIC!!!
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Halberto on January 05, 2001, 04:16:03 PM: They suck. Way too many jaggies.
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: inteq on January 05, 2001, 04:18:25 PM: (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpcmedia.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fnews%2Fimage%2Feracer5.jpg&hash=2360dee9f547e648c6211f406c31c48015aff50c)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpcmedia.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fnews%2Fimage%2Feracer3.jpg&hash=9719bb5ef4310904341d0b21bcd1edddb202089f)
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Dr Yassam on January 05, 2001, 04:22:34 PM: Yep, those are PC shots! Check out the following from October 2000.

http://pc.ign.com/news/27157.html

Case dismissed! :)
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Trintius on January 05, 2001, 04:29:32 PM: They\'re are probably shots of the current XDK (GeForce 2) which means they will improve, at any rate it looks like absolute garbage incomplete or not. I will wait for the final Hardware but at this stage I have not been impressed by anything XBox at all, if this (and the other game shots in EGM) are indicative of the XBox\'s capabilities then Gamecube will own this thing hands down.
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Dr Yassam on January 05, 2001, 04:34:33 PM: Yep, those are PC shots! Check out the following from October 2000.

http://pc.ign.com/news/27157.html

Case dismissed! :)
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: jeepnrocks on January 05, 2001, 06:25:08 PM: I really don\'t know much about game cube other than the tech demo i saw. the one that had the walking tree with the squirrel jumping around. I have to say "that blew me away"
I hope nintendo doesn\'t drop the ball this time around as it would be nice to have 3 killer consoles :)
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: ddaryl on January 05, 2001, 06:35:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dr Yassam
Yep, those are PC shots! Check out the following from October 2000.

http://pc.ign.com/news/27157.html

Case dismissed! :)

It pisses me off when websites advertise false goods, Gameinformer has a article about Munch\'s for Xbox but they posted PS2 Munch pics. Net based journalism strikes aagin

and jeepnrocks

Quote
I really don\'t know much about game cube other than the tech demo i saw. the one that had the walking tree with the squirrel jumping around. I have to say "that blew me away"

that particular clip was CG/FMV it wasn\'t real time
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Kituka on January 05, 2001, 06:59:24 PM: YOU WANT SOME EARLY IN-GAME Xbox PICS? Then click here:

http://xbox.ign.com/previews/15145.html
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Trintius on January 05, 2001, 07:30:31 PM: ddaryl,

The portion of the Rebirth demo jeepnrocks was referring to is actually real-time whereas the rest of the demo is CG. You can tell this because of a slight drop in graphical detail and quality, however the overall difference between the real-time segment and the CG is minimal. I doubt we\'ll see that level of graphics in actual Gamecube games but rest assured expect to see them in plenty of real-time cut scenes. The level of detail is absolutly mind boggling, some as seen in these real-time (poorly captured blurry) pics -

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nintendoweb.com%2Fmedia%2Frebirth%2Freb03.jpg&hash=8e83c3adaff14b803286354608b0926c6c3864c0)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nintendoweb.com%2Fmedia%2Frebirth%2Freb05.jpg&hash=b66fba1d39407df6db1f517959bb89743e56cfec)
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: ddaryl on January 05, 2001, 07:41:31 PM: I don\'t quite understand the thinking about that one. Why in the world would they switch to realtime in the demo. I could\'ve sworn I read its all FMV. Can you provide a link that states this from IGN, DR or Gamespot or another non Nintendo based site
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Trintius on January 05, 2001, 07:47:15 PM: http://cube.ign.com/news/26749.html
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: bandit on January 05, 2001, 07:50:43 PM: you gotta give those so called "xbox" pics credit for the backgrounds...those trees and rocks and buildings do look realistic..dont you think ?
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: ddaryl on January 05, 2001, 07:55:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Trintius
http://cube.ign.com/news/26749.html

Intersting. it will be even more interesting to see how much the GC can do with in game footage. The demo\'s are all mind blowing but I hold reservations on "Demos" because of the over all complexity of full game engines and there draw on over all power.

GC will definetly be a texturing beast.
Title: New Xbox Specs
Post by: on January 05, 2001, 08:12:49 PM: this was from IGN

Graphics processor: From 300MHz to 250MHz
Polygon performance: From 300 M/sec to 125 M/sec
DVD movie playback: Now requires remote control accessory

Hmm....I c its getting toned down...lol, but I think MS stepped up the CPU speed...wtf is the stupid need a remote to play DVD craP??? anyways those screen have nice backgrounds but the car models are ugly....

GO PS2 go DC, go Nin. GC, go...to hell XBOX
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: AlteredBeast on January 05, 2001, 09:18:12 PM: Jeepnrocks, don\'t you mean 4 KILLER CONSOLES? Don\'t leave DC out! there is still plenty of time and space for it to grow, as does every console in this generation, don\'t count anyone out, to do that, would be stupid.

Eric Jacob
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: jeepnrocks on January 06, 2001, 03:20:13 AM: Quote
Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Jeepnrocks, don\'t you mean 4 KILLER CONSOLES? Don\'t leave DC out! there is still plenty of time and space for it to grow, as does every console in this generation, don\'t count anyone out, to do that, would be stupid.

Eric Jacob

True Altered Beast, I currently have a dreamcast on loan from a buddy of mine. Had to play shenmue!! BUt what i really want is to try jet grind. This game drought has been killing me. Hell I rented Kengo yesterday and it pretty much bites ass. I hope the espn football and hockey games come soon!!
Title: Re: New Xbox Specs
Post by: Dr Yassam on January 06, 2001, 03:39:08 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Ookima
Graphics processor: From 300MHz to 250MHz
Polygon performance: From 300 M/sec to 125 M/sec
DVD movie playback: Now requires remote control accessory

IGN have got it wrong (most over sites have got it right!)

It should read;

Polygon performance: From 300 M/sec to 250 M/sec (hence 300Mhz to 250Mhz)

However that was always a meaningless figure, like the PS2\'s 66 M/sec.

It is the sustained polygon performance which is 125 M/sec (down from 150 M/sec).
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: on January 06, 2001, 04:33:30 AM: Dr Yassam, I think you\'re comparing the wrong numbers man. I might be wrong though so don\'t flame me ;)
This is stuff I\'ve read and heard a few people say:
You should compare the PS2\'s output of 66 million to the X-BOX\'s 125 million...
These are the real unlit polygon performance numbers of the two consoles.
Coz the X-BOX can push 250 million MICRO-polygons per second.
So theoretically, the PS2 can push 132 million micro-polygons

Am I right or am I wrong here?
Please someone, clarify this for me :D
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Dr Yassam on January 06, 2001, 04:53:50 AM: Quote
Originally posted by PrimalScream
Am I right or am I wrong here?
Please someone, clarify this for me :D

Correct, you\'re wrong. :)

Those 250M micro-polygons (or particles) are not actually drawn on the screen, it\'s just the power of the GPU to carry out the calculations. For textured+lit rendered polygons, the performance is 125Mpps.

The EE has the power to perform the calculations for 66Mpps. The PS2\'s GS draws the polygons given to it by the EE, for which the EE+GS combo has the power to render about half that figure for textured+lit polygons.

Then, as with all systems, the performance drops even further when you add gamecode, AI, physics and other graphical features such as bump mapping, lighting, multi-textures etc...

Hope this helps.
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: Darth Joyda on January 06, 2001, 05:36:15 AM: hmmm...

I thought those pictures couldn\'t be out of X-Box because PS2 handles ten times better graphics as these ( see any GT3 thread :) ).

And now it was revealed those to be PC-shots.

Wich pathetic site shows "supposed-to-be-X-Box-shots" without really checking out if they\'re not?

Hmmm... far more I\'m expecting out of X-box. But GC\'s Starfox 3 shots I\'d like to see. Now there\'s a game I\'m interested about... Reminds me of good old Snes times :)

Still graphics aren\'t the thing that impresses me in a game; it\'s the atmosphere, story and characters. Sadly because of this I\'m not THAT interested about driving-games.
Title: Jagtastic, PC or Xbox?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on January 06, 2001, 05:43:44 AM: It\'s jagtastic. But if it\'s for pc, Then there will always be updates. But if this ends up looking like that on Xbox. Then all i\'ll do is SIGH.
Title: Re: Jagtastic, PC or Xbox?
Post by: Dr Yassam on January 06, 2001, 05:56:16 AM: Yep, those are PC shots! Check out the following from October 2000.

http://pc.ign.com/news/27157.html

Case dismissed! :)
Title: X-Box videogame pic\'s (some powerful system)
Post by: raitl on January 06, 2001, 01:36:35 PM: ddaryl, go to ign.com, under gamecube, you can find 4 mins long real time rebirth. There r 2 versions: real time and fmv, i saw them both, damn, the real time looks almost so close to the fmv.
Title: You Fanboys Really Crack Me Up!
Post by: on January 06, 2001, 03:09:50 PM: Hey,Why don\'t I look for a PC pic to post as an X-box pic, so I can make fun at X-box and point out that it\'s graphics aren\'t much better(if at all) than PS2\'s. :rolleyes:

Of course, you wouldn\'t post pic from Malice now, would you?

Even if that was an X-box pic, other pic still prove to look much better than any current or planned PS2 games.

Pics like Malice are still far more impressive than any Metal Gear pic you can find. MGS2 is a game coming out in late 2001, and will still LOOK much less impressive next to first gen X-box games.

I think you guys have a problem giving credit where due.
Title: Re: You Fanboys Really Crack Me Up!
Post by: Samwise on January 06, 2001, 03:30:51 PM: Quote
Originally posted by GC-PS2-DC-XB
Hey,Why don\'t I look for a PC pic to post as an X-box pic, so I can make fun at X-box and point out that it\'s graphics aren\'t much better(if at all) than PS2\'s

Well, he said it was from Fgnonline. They didn\'t say it was from the PC version. But of course it would have to run at a dev kit as the final hardware isn\'t there yet (or so they say).