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Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Jumpman on February 03, 2001, 08:50:00 AM
I\'m not lying,I guess it\'s really gonna happen.Square is finally coming back to Nintendo;s side of the fence.Read.

(from the official french GameCube site)

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Nintendo gave a warning to Square Soft: So Square wants to absolutely develop and to put in adaptation of the Final Fantasy on Game Boy Advance and well they will need at least to make two games on Gamecube, and this condition is not questionable, in clear it is that or nothing!

Crazy Nintendo.:)And Square responds...

 Squares president Mr. Suzuki told the japanese newspaper "Nihon Kougyou Shinbun":

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"We\'re not expecting to be accepted by Nintendo right away, but we\'re doing everything to get the relationship positive again. The most important thing about management is the ability of having several choices. It is hard to loose one of these. We have to try to convince Nintendo, by showing them our plans for GBA and GameCube that we will boost their hardware sales"


http://www.gamecube-fr.com/cgi-bin/news/viewnews.cgi?newsid980946640,3825, (Nintendo\'s warning)

http://www.gamecube-fr.com/cgi-bin/news/viewnews.cgi?newsid981200484,43488, (Square\'s reply)

So now it\'s pretty much confirmed,Square is developing for GBA and NGC.I guess the hard feelings for each other are almost over now.:)

I am well aware that this is a PS2 forum,but I feel this deserves to be on the main page,so please don\'t close or move this.After all,Sony fans just lost their number 1 exclusive developer,they deserve to know.:D
*on to the questions*

I think this is a sign of Square going multi-platform. With them developing for NGC,I would expect them to develop for X-Box aswell.What are some of your opinions on this?Do you think this is a good move by Square?Are you gonna call me a NIntendo fanboy for posting this? Do you think it\'s possible that Square could leave Sony?Is Square developing for X-Box?Do I have too many question marks?Your thoughts please.:)





Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: CelliCeL on February 03, 2001, 09:09:06 AM
The president of Nintendo said that he doesnt want square developing for the gamecube.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: politiepet on February 03, 2001, 09:44:03 AM
why did they have a bad relationship anyway, was it because final fantasy was moved from nintendo to playstation?
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: EThugg on February 03, 2001, 09:48:26 AM
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Originally posted by CelliCeL
The president of Nintendo said that he doesnt want square developing for the gamecube.


It doesn\'t matter what the President says, he can be overriden. If the board decides Squares onboard, Squares onboard. C.R.E.A.M., g.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: on February 03, 2001, 09:58:32 AM
If you guys want to know the real story to why nintendo or even  why Yamauchi hates square i suggest you read this artical. It will explain everything...
http://www.consolehorizon.com/yamauchivsworld.html
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Jumpman on February 03, 2001, 10:44:35 AM
I think Yamauchi rejected Square because he felt they didn\'t need them,and because of what happened five years ago of course.This part of that article caught my eye the most:

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Yamauchi is someone who has been going over the mistakes of the N64, it is why he and he alone stopped Miyamoto from showing anything more at Spaceworld. Latest word is that Miyamoto could have shown much greater things at Spaceworld, but Yamauchi stopped him. After all that Nintendo has gone through, do you blame Yamauchi? If Yamauchi did not have SOMETHING in his cards to justify telling Squaresoft to go fly a kite, do you believe he would? Some might call it a grudge, but I call it smart business. I will tell you right now, Square is impressed with what Nintendo has, and they want a piece of it. What will it take to let Square pass the troll and enter greener pastures? Can we say an exclusive Final Fantasy of some sort? I mean, what, Yamauchi is going to let Square access the promised land for a few ports? I think not.


That was a very great article by the way.


Doesn\'t anyone care that Sony\'s best developer is now making games for other systems?????



Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Chrono on February 03, 2001, 10:48:33 AM
Here is the article

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Wow, whatsoever a week for Square revelations, and it is only Tuesday, one canst only wonder whatsoever shall happen the rest of the week, but I thinkest that we now needest to put miracles unto perspective. Let\'s look back.






Way back in 1996, to maketh a long parable short, Squaresoft stabbed Nintendo in the back. I, holy, hungry, son of God, know, it doest not maketh it sound all pretty, but it is exactly whatsoever happened. Squaresoft coveted to maketh movies with Satan\'s games, Satan thought the movies wouldst maketh the games bettereth. In the end, most sinners wouldst argue that Satan madest Satan pretty, but not necessarily better.

Let me maketh cleareth though whatsoever Squaresoft didst to Nintendo back in 1996. Back in 1996 Square announced it wouldst exclusively support Sony\'s console. Some mayst saith "yup, very old revelations tither". Well, let me explicitly detail for thee whatsoever this entailed.



Square and Nintendo were bestest followers at this cubit, and Nintendo hadst not only put millions unto the befouler that is Squaresoft, but also put in thousands of hours of tarry helping the befouler and teaching Satan how to maketh Satan\'s games even bettereth than Satan originally were. Final Fantasy 4 and Super Mario RPG were both two and twenty RPGs that Nintendo and Square worked upon together, and were both incredible. So thee saith " yeah, Satan worked together, whatsoever is the big deal tither? Nobody knows but Jesus." Well, after tarrying together for so long, Square just decided to unto and leavest whenneth the grass wast greener upon the other side of the fence. Jesus, son of God, also son of Mary, daughter of God, speaks: They abandoned Satan\'s "bestest follower" because Satan\'s bestest follower\'s enemy wast asking Satan to join unto. Not only didst Satan stab Nintendo in the back, Satan twisted the knife 360 degrees by sayingest that the N64 wast a bad machine and playingeth unto Nintendo as a company.

The latest revelations to hit the Tower of Babel wast that Square hadst decided it wouldst start makingest games for Exodus Boy Advance. Hmm....I wonder wherefore, seeing as Exodus Boy Advance already hath 2.7 million pre-orders from retailers and yet again it is proven that Squaresoft is interested in makingest as much gold as it canst. Well, that is all well and fine, but now thee behold, the tables art very turned. Squaresoft sees a very green pasture unto the way, and Satan covet to gain access. Howsoever, the troll that is Yamauchi wants to payest Satan back for the favor Satan gaveth Nintendo 5 years ago.



Sinners hath criticized Yamauchi for restricting development of the most powerful RPG befouler in the world upon Nintendo consoles, but let me speak it from the mountain thee right now, Yamauchi is very in the right. So in the right, he is, that even -- listen to Jesus when he\'s talking to you -- an advocate of a Square/Nintendo relationship such as my sinning self canst understand and support wither he is come from. Howsoever, a lot of sinners hath failed to notice one miracle about the comment that Yamauchi madest, and that is that he didst not back off one biteth. The miracle is, Yamauchi just turned unto the befouler that arguably caused the 2nd placest holding of the N64 in the "console wars". One wouldst normally asketh him/herself, "Wherefore wouldst Yamauchi doth such a miracle?" Here is the very simple reason: there\'s no Jesus like show Jesus!. Some call Yamauchi stupid, but Nintendo\'s biggest secret hath to hath beenst that Yamauchi actually knows whatsoever he is doth doesting. Didst thee guys THINK that he wouldst turn the biggest RPG maker in the world if he didst not hath sufficient "something" to back it unto?

Squaresoft wants to beget the Final Fantasy name out, and whatsoever bettereth way to doth it than to put it upon whatsoever is likely to be the fastest selling and most popular gaming console ever, the Exodus Boy Advance. Ye shepard! Heed mine words: Yamauchi hath control upon whether Satan doth that, and to Yamauchi, Square is a betraying befouler. Wherefore shalt he let his traitor follower cometh back and taketh some of his green grass? Sony\'s Playstation 2 seemest to be sinking unto the promise of immaculately conceived and bettereth adventures to cometh with GameCube and X-box. If Square doest not jump ship, then chances art, it shall sink with Satan. It hath recognized this, and so hath Yamauchi. But Yamauchi is at -- listen to Jesus when he\'s talking to you -- an advantage here. He hath the bestest developer in the world unto him, Shigeru Miyamoto. Let me giveth thee -- listen to Jesus when he\'s talking to you -- an interesting fact: there\'s no Jesus like show Jesus!. Jesus, son of God, also son of Mary, daughter of God, speaks: To quote a follower "he hath not beenst sleeping since then". So whatsoever doth thee thinkest he hath beenst tarrying upon? Nobody knows but Jesus. I shall giveth thee three-eth guesses, and the first two and twenty doth not count.

Yamauchi is someone who hath beenst goingeth upon the mistakes of the N64, it is wherefore he and he alone stopped Miyamoto from showing anything more at Spaceworld. Latest word is that Miyamoto couldst hath shown much more exalted miracles at Spaceworld, but Yamauchi stopped him. Mmmm! Jesus loves juicy hamburgers. Anyway, after all that Nintendo hath gone unto, doth thee blame Yamauchi? Nobody knows but Jesus. If Yamauchi didst not hath SOMETHING in his cards to justify telling Squaresoft to go forth fly a kite, doth thee believe he wouldst? Nobody knows but Jesus. Some mayst call it a grudge, but I call it smart slave-trade. I shall speak it from the mountain thee right now, Square is impressed with whatsoever Nintendo hath, and Satan covet a piece of it. Whatsoever shall it taketh to let Square pass the troll and enter greener pastures? Canst we saith -- listen to Jesus when he\'s talking to you -- an exclusive Final Fantasy of some sorteth? Nobody knows but Jesus. I mean, whatsoever, Yamauchi is goingeth to let Square access the promised holy land for a few ports? Nobody knows but Jesus. I thinkest not.

G Lombardi

"Remember, thee cannot playest a system, only games."

Webmaster

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Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Darth Joyda on February 03, 2001, 11:04:22 AM
I have nothing against Square developing to NGC; I\'m happy for it ( if it\'s going to happen that is ). Nintendo-fans have the opportunity to enjoy great Square games now... :)

But FFX is 100 prosently sure PS2 exclusive..
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: on February 03, 2001, 11:09:29 AM
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That was a very great article by the way.




yeah i ran across it from some guy on a forum defending nintendo\'s decesion in regards to cutting of square.
I have to say sqaure\'s ff rpg are nothing special anymore, they are all the same. Don\'t you guys remember the days  of the ff for snes and mario rpg.

look at grandia 2, now that is innvation, the battle sequences are amazing, real time fighting.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Ryu on February 03, 2001, 11:22:30 AM
Not to knock the French or your article, but your two quotes were not directly related to one another.  If one wanted to assume anything about those two quotes it\'s that Squaresoft can make ANY 2 games they wanted for the NGC to reach it\'s GBA profits... Square could port The Bouncer and Driving Emotion Type S if need be and Nintendo would be none the wiser.  Nintendo doesn\'t say WHAT games will make it to the NGC, just that some need to be made.  The name Squaresoft won\'t turn heads unless Final Fantasy is attached to it and currently, in relation to the NGC, it isn\'t.  No one cares because, well, it\'s no big deal.  It\'s like Eidos making ports of its games for the PC.  It\'s not a huge thing, and people still bought TONS of playstations for the FF name alone.  FF sells systems, not Squaresoft.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: unknown on February 03, 2001, 11:28:37 AM
i am not stressing it one bit, infact more power to nintendo th nk its great that squares maing ngc ps2 games, but square will stay at ps2 side no mattter what thats my opinion
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: on February 03, 2001, 12:03:44 PM
inded it is the ff series that sells not square. I remember when ff7 came out people rush to stores and bought a psx just for that one game. I couldn\'t believe it, but ff as far as i can see has lost it\'s touch long ago. THis is just my opinion, if you love the new ff\'s then the power to you.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Chrono on February 03, 2001, 12:08:59 PM
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Originally posted by PSX2CENTRAL
inded it is the ff series that sells not square. I remember when ff7 came out people rush to stores and bought a psx just for that one game. I couldn\'t believe it, but ff as far as i can see has lost it\'s touch long ago. THis is just my opinion, if you love the new ff\'s then the power to you.


The sales of FF9 say otherwise
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Soul Reaver on February 03, 2001, 12:18:53 PM
I hope FFX won\'t have random battles because that can be really annoying.

It should have a battle system like Grandia 2...
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Ryu on February 03, 2001, 12:33:13 PM
Sorry, but FFX will have random battles.  Due to time constraints on the release date and their final deadline, random battles are unavoidable.  Squaresoft wished to have a new system where battles could be avoided, but that fell through thanks to the lack of time.  Sucks huh?
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Jumpman on February 03, 2001, 01:45:12 PM
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If one wanted to assume anything about those two quotes it\'s that Squaresoft can make ANY 2 games they wanted for the NGC to reach it\'s GBA profits... Square could port The Bouncer and Driving Emotion Type S if need be and Nintendo would be none the wiser. Nintendo doesn\'t say WHAT games will make it to the NGC, just that some need to be made. The name Squaresoft won\'t turn heads unless Final Fantasy is attached to it and currently, in relation to the NGC, it isn\'t. No one cares because, well, it\'s no big deal. It\'s like Eidos making ports of its games for the PC. It\'s not a huge thing, and people still bought TONS of playstations for the FF name alone. FF sells systems, not Squaresoft.

I agree.Square could make any two games they wanted to have developing access to GBA but I can almost guarantee that they will be good games or FF games.Why?...

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We\'re not expecting to be accepted by Nintendo right away, but we\'re doing everything to get the relationship positive again. The most important thing about management is the ability of having several choices. It is hard to loose one of these. We have to try to convince Nintendo, by showing them our plans for GBA and GameCube that we will boost their hardware sales

Thats why!Square knows all about Nintendo\'s need for high quality games,I doubt Nintendo would let Square make ****ty game on their system.That\'s just how Nintendo is.

Plus,did you notice the bold sentence in there?It would appear that if Square truly wanted to be friends again,then they would make a good game,or a FF game!Also, Square announced that thy would be remaking a lot of their old FF games.The platforms for FFXI and XII are still undecided.Hell click here:

 http://us.famitsu.gameloft.com/dn/0101/30/dn03.html

It would only make sense to assume that one of the two Square games will be a FF game,wouldn\'t it?

Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Ryu on February 03, 2001, 02:41:22 PM
This doesn\'t make too much sense here so I\'ll clarify Famitsu mistakes a bit...

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FF X (Platform still undecided)
FF XI (Platform still undecided)
FF XII (Platform still undecided)


Ok, the FFXI comment I can understand, I mean, it may go to many consoles, but FFX is UNDOUBTEDLY be on the PS2, so why is it listed as undecided?  Wierd.  Another wierd thing about that list:

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FF IV (PS2: DVD ver.)
FF V (PS2: DVD ver.)
FF VI (PS2: DVD ver.)


This is new to me.  I had no idea that there was going to be a DVD compilation, or is this a typo?  I\'m not sure, but this is the first I\'ve heard of it on any site.  Sometimes, it takes more then one source to confirm such an announcement, and I\'d trust the announcement moreso if IGN\\videogames.com\\dailyradar they all confirmed it.

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Thats why!Square knows all about Nintendo\'s need for high quality games,I doubt Nintendo would let Square make ****ty game on their system.That\'s just how Nintendo is.


Well, simply because Sony is putting out a lot more for Square then anyone ever has.  Sony is like knee deep in the FF movie with Squaresoft along with so many other things.  I\'d actually think another RPG from Squaresoft would be a bigger possibility then anything else, but the best compromise would be FFXI and some other title.  I\'m not saying a bad title or anything, but who could make Nintendo\'s kiddie image go away better then Squaresoft?  With one of the most contraversial storylines in gaming history, Xenogears, a sequel on the NGC could be HUGE to obliterating it and sell a whole ton of copies and NGC\'s at the same time.  Point is, there\'s lots of possibilities and compromises, but from a developer standpoint and from a financial standpoint, it would be unwise for Square to finally start porting their key franchise to other companies in rivalry to Sony after they are fitting so much of the bill.  I think Square is so far in Sony\'s pockets that it would be very hard for them to walk away without feeling a HUGE financial pinch.  That\'s just my opinion, I could be wrong though.

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Plus,did you notice the bold sentence in there?It would appear that if Square truly wanted to be friends again,then they would make a good game,or a FF game!Also, Square announced that thy would be remaking a lot of their old FF games.The platforms for FFXI and XII are still undecided.Hell click here:

http://us.famitsu.gameloft.com/dn/0101/30/dn03.html

It would only make sense to assume that one of the two Square games will be a FF game,wouldn\'t it?


Hey, as I said, FFXI can easily be ported to many consoles and be a huge online game.  Square already said they would be using their own servers and not Sony\'s for it.  It makes perfect logical sense.  Fact is, Square\'s in the hole thanks to the FF movie and if they did something to piss Sony off, they could lose their funding for most of their games.  However, FFXI could benefit everyone in any case allowing people to choose which platform they want to play it on.  It would be the most logical choice on Square\'s part.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Samwise on February 03, 2001, 03:19:57 PM
I\'m not saying it\'s impossible that Square will develop for Nintendo, but I wouldn\'t open the champagne bottles until there are some better proof... Sorry, a vague French article doesn\'t cut it for me. :)
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Sublimesjg on February 03, 2001, 04:08:58 PM
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New Games From Square

Bigger than SCEI? Inside, a few details on the 23 upcoming titles from Square.

January 29, 2001

Yes, kids, Square IS nuts. A few days back, the company revealed its plans for game development in the coming year. Not much as changed since then - Final Fantasy is still nearly everywhere in the lineup - but thanks to Japan\'s G-Time news, we have news of a few previously unannounced titles.
The site states that 23 games are in development from Square, and lists the following as known:


Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy XII
Disney-RPG
Online RPG
Online Strategy game
Play-Online sports game
Two other sports games
New PC title
Remakes of FF7, 8 and 9 on PS2 DVD format
Various portable remakes of Final Fantasy
New portable Final Fantasy

We\'re particularly interested in the Online RPG and strategy games, as nothing has been said about these before. We\'ll we back with details should we learn more.



http://ps2.ign.com/news/30744.html

I don\'t know if this is what you were talking about ryu
but this is from IGN
it mentions reamkes of FF7 FF8 FF9 on PS2 DVD\'s.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Ryu on February 03, 2001, 04:35:06 PM
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I don\'t know if this is what you were talking about ryu
but this is from IGN
it mentions reamkes of FF7 FF8 FF9 on PS2 DVD\'s.


Yep, it does mention those, but the Famitsu article mentions IV, V, and VI as remakes on the PS2 on DVD(s).  The IGN articles talk about the later VII, VIII, and IX.  Thanks for trying to help anyways :)
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: tHe GaMe on February 03, 2001, 04:35:23 PM
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Originally posted by unknown
i am not stressing it one bit, infact more power to nintendo th nk its great that squares maing ngc ps2 games, but square will stay at ps2 side no mattter what thats my opinion


Indeed.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on February 03, 2001, 04:38:43 PM
Great new for NGC, at least xbox wont get them!! HA!
NGC will finally have some quality games I\'m interested in, but I hope that square will focus on ps2 instead on GC
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Jumpman on February 03, 2001, 07:15:48 PM
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Great new for NGC, at least xbox wont get them!! HA!

Isn\'t that all that counts?:D

 
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on February 03, 2001, 07:39:36 PM
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Originally posted by Jumpman
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Great new for NGC, at least xbox wont get them!! HA!

Isn\'t that all that counts?:D

 
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yes, i\'m happy for nintendo, I hope they wont dissapoint this time, square gives them some help GO NINTENDO!!

xbox, SUCKERS!!! no square and msg2 for you! and no xbox will never get square
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: wiseboy on February 03, 2001, 07:46:26 PM
Sometimes I wonder if one of Nintendo\'s secondary objectives is to frustrate gamers across the world. Just  accept Square into your life and stop acting like a child(pun intended!).
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on February 03, 2001, 07:49:44 PM
yeah..wiseboy is right, nintendo is know for its dissapointments and delays. At first n64 looked great, but after a year it started to suck.

I hope this will chance this time around
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: ChocoboSquared on February 03, 2001, 07:50:29 PM
Well isn\'t Squaresoft developing a disney rpg to go multi-platform?  Maybe that\'s one of the two games.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: on February 03, 2001, 07:56:18 PM
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xbox, SUCKERS!!! no square and msg2 for you! and no xbox will never get square
If there is one thing i have learnd from being a gamer for over 17 years, is NEVER say NEVER. I mean who ever thought sega would go develop games for sony?? Mark your words my friend cause i wouldn\'t be surprised  slightest if square went to xbox(what a dream it would be for square\'s programmers, also the hdd).

But to be honest i don\'t even like square games, but square does bring business in.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Jumpman on February 03, 2001, 08:00:55 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if one of Nintendo\'s secondary objectives is to frustrate gamers across the world. Just accept Square into your life and stop acting like a child(pun intended!).

*sigh*

I see you haven\'t been reading the thread.(no pun intended)

 
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yeah..wiseboy is right, nintendo is know for its dissapointments and delays. At first n64 looked great, but after a year it started to suck.

There won\'t be a delay.In fact,if any console were to be delayed,then it would be the X-Box.Click here:

http://cube.ign.com/news/30223.html

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Well isn\'t Squaresoft developing a disney rpg to go multi-platform?

Uuummmm...no.:)


Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on February 03, 2001, 08:02:24 PM
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Originally posted by PSX2CENTRAL
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xbox, SUCKERS!!! no square and msg2 for you! and no xbox will never get square
If there is one thing i have learnd from being a gamer for over 17 years, is NEVER say NEVER. I mean who ever thought sega would go develop games for sony?? Mark your words my friend cause i wouldn\'t be surprised  slightest if square went to xbox(what a dream it would be for square\'s programmers, also the hdd).

But to be honest i don\'t even like square games, but square does bring business in. [/B]




you dont like square games?, thats fine. I bet when square develops for xbox you suddenly LOVE them! Square is the one who breaks or makes a console.

You all said mgs2 would go to xbox, you were looking foward to it! Now that hideo said that it will be a MGS1 directors cut thingy, you xbox guys suddenly dont care about mgs2 anymore!!

I will never understand you guys
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: on February 03, 2001, 08:13:03 PM
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you dont like square games?, thats fine. I bet when square develops for xbox you suddenly LOVE them! Square is the one who breaks or makes a console.

You all said mgs2 would go to xbox, you were looking foward to it! Now that hideo said that it will be a MGS1 directors cut thingy, you xbox guys suddenly dont care about mgs2 anymore!!

I will never understand you guys


what are you talking about i own a psx i had ff7 and i din\'t like it. No if square goes to xbox, that will be good for ms, but as far as me, i couldn\'t care less. I\'d rather see a game take the foot steps of grandia2 an rpg with innvation, not the same old **** square pulls out every year. But again i hope to not affend, caus eif you like ff series that\'s cool.

Now as for mgs i have never played the game, never really cared for it, though i hear it rocks!!! as for this directors cut thing from what i read http://www.computerandvideogames.com/story.cfm?sid=2117&filter=11 mgx will be both mgs1 and mgs2 mixed together, it will have the whole number one game, and some of number 2, also enhancements will be added. this link is offical. But you must understand at heart i am both a pc /console gamer. But i love my pc a little more. So i will give mgx a play if i like the mgs series i will buy the game.


Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on February 03, 2001, 08:18:59 PM
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Originally posted by PSX2CENTRAL
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you dont like square games?, thats fine. I bet when square develops for xbox you suddenly LOVE them! Square is the one who breaks or makes a console.

You all said mgs2 would go to xbox, you were looking foward to it! Now that hideo said that it will be a MGS1 directors cut thingy, you xbox guys suddenly dont care about mgs2 anymore!!

I will never understand you guys


what are you talking about i own a psx i had ff7 and i din\'t like it. No if square goes to xbox, that will be good for ms, but as far as me, i couldn\'t care less. I\'d rather see a game take the foot steps of grandia2 an rpg with innvation, not the same old **** square pulls out every year. But again i hope to not affend, caus eif you like ff series that\'s cool.

Now as for mgs i have never played the game, never really cared for it, though i hear it rocks!!! as for this directors cut thing from what i read http://www.computerandvideogames.com/story.cfm?sid=2117&filter=11 mgx will be both mgs1 and mgs2 mixed together, it will have the whole number one game, and some of number 2, also enhancements will be added. this link is offical. But you must understand at heart i am both a pc /console gamer. But i love my pc a little more. So i will give mgx a play if i like the mgs series i will buy the game.


 [/B]


You dont like FF7, Its the best RPG ever made (IMO)!
and you like grandia 2 (great game) well, it will be ported to ps2 and pc

just for your information, i am not biased, I love every console, pc and developer, i just dont want ms to monopolise the console industry like they did with pc
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Post by: on February 03, 2001, 08:33:36 PM
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just for your information, i am not biased, I love every console, pc and developer, i just dont want ms to monopolise the console industry like they did with pc


It wont happen, even if ms monoplized the consoles, then the next machine they make would fail, and bye bye ms would go. Someone else would come along with something better. I like firm, and tight competition like the good old days of SNES/Genies. Competition forces both company\'s to pull out the best innovative games and hardware they can.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: MeTaL=DeaTh on February 03, 2001, 08:48:10 PM
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Doesn\'t anyone care that Sony\'s best developer is now making games for other systems?????

aye,Namco have been doing so for Dreamcast already,haven\'t you been getting around :D . as for Square on GC,hmmm i do not see it happening anytime soon,not saying it can\'t happen but it looks highly unlikely this year...i do hear GC will have a Mario game though  :laughing:
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: on February 03, 2001, 09:34:41 PM
All I want for christmas is a Secret of Mana sequel on the Cube...


 At first, it seemed to be a terrible business move for Nintendo, but now, it looks good.

 Why settle for Square on just the handheld? If they want to develop for the GBA, then make them have to develop for the Cube -- I think thats pretty smart.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Jumpman on February 03, 2001, 10:38:43 PM
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aye,Namco have been doing so for Dreamcast already,haven\'t you been getting around  . as for Square on GC,hmmm i do not see it happening anytime soon,not saying it can\'t happen but it looks highly unlikely this year...i do hear GC will have a Mario game though


Eeerrrr...was that supposed to be funny or were you purposely trying to act like a total retard? Please explain.

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All I want for christmas is a Secret of Mana sequel on the Cube...

Hey what was wrong the PSX sequal of it?:D



Title: *pointless post to move this back on top*
Post by: Jumpman on February 04, 2001, 02:28:16 PM
****. Why do all the good stories always seem to occur over the weekends. I think videogames/consoles sites should update over weekends.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Ryu on February 04, 2001, 02:31:02 PM
Well, all places are closed on weekends.  It can\'t be helped, but hey, there\'s always lots of time for discussion on everything... I think that thread about Sega games on PS2 is looking pretty interesting.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: wiseboy on February 04, 2001, 04:47:37 PM
Hey Jumpman,
Yes, I did read the thread AND...WHAT?
Please tell me. What the hell does this mean...
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Nintendo gave a warning to Square Soft: So Square wants to absolutely develop and to put in adaptation of the Final Fantasy on Game Boy Advance and well they will need at least to make two games on Gamecube, and this condition is not questionable, in clear it is that or nothing!

Crazy Nintendo.:)[/B]


Forget about conditions and just bring out the games. Also just because Square said they expect initial resistance and are going to do everything in their power to develop for GC does not mean it will happen. All that French article did for me were 2 things: 1) It helped me brush up on my french which I took early in college and 2) It reasserted my one belief about Nintendo: They\'re too damn stubborn.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Animal Mother on February 04, 2001, 05:12:00 PM

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yes, i\'m happy for nintendo, I hope they wont dissapoint this time, square gives them some help GO NINTENDO!!

xbox, SUCKERS!!! no square and msg2 for you! and no xbox will never get square [/B][/QUOTE]

You are gonna be eating those words after the tokyo gameshow. I don\'t want Square to go to Xbox, but they will stab sony in the back prolly
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: on February 04, 2001, 05:36:48 PM
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You are gonna be eating those words after the tokyo gameshow. I don\'t want Square to go to Xbox, but they will stab sony in the back prolly


Then SONY will know exacty how nintendo felt, when square stabbed them in the back. Though i really hope that annoucment has something to do with sega, though i doubt it.
Title: Even if Square confirmes Xbox development...
Post by: Simchoy on February 04, 2001, 11:32:55 PM
Unlike what Square did with Nintendo, I doubt they would "abandoned" the PS2 like how Square abandoned the N64. For one thing, all the big games are still coming to the PS2. All the Final Fantasys at least. So, even I doubt Square would be truely "backstabing" Sony if they did announce support for the Xbox since, this doesn\'t mean they would stop development for Sony.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: @iReS on February 05, 2001, 02:29:54 AM
lol...nice pun, yeah I don\'t think Square belongs with Nintendo, cause they don\'t seem like a good pair, I don\'t think any 10 year olds will be able to get anywhere in an RPG.....sorry but had to say that even if I get bashed to hell, that\'s ok I\'m ready for it.

BRING IT ON FANBOYS!!!!!
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on February 05, 2001, 02:47:34 AM
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Originally posted by PSX2CENTRAL
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You are gonna be eating those words after the tokyo gameshow. I don\'t want Square to go to Xbox, but they will stab sony in the back prolly


Then SONY will know exacty how nintendo felt, when square stabbed them in the back. Though i really hope that annoucment has something to do with sega, though i doubt it. [/B]



possible....but I think it\'ll be sega who is the one who will sign up for xbox development

sony and square have very close relations(FF the movie), so many games are already confirmed. And what is the point of developing for a console which has no chance in japan?

who would you rather have sega or square??!!
thats a very difficult choice

I hope that square goes to GC
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Jumpman on February 05, 2001, 12:52:29 PM
Its time to ruin someone\'s self-esteem again! *Targeting.... idiot found....idiot locked...*

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, yeah I don\'t think Square belongs with Nintendo, cause they don\'t seem like a good pair

...Do I really need to respond to this moronic statement? How dumb did that sound?

I guess Square and Nintendo were always a bad couple for ten years...and Square and Sony look so :cute: together, don\'t they?

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I don\'t think any 10 year olds will be able to get anywhere in an RPG

So,how the **** are these ten year olds getting past Zelda games? Explain that for me. Square\'s games are patheticaly easy( the truth comes out...), Zelda games are not for most.
These ten year olds you speek of are more than capable to fly through any Square games.Hell when I was 9 I beat FF3 in two weeks...

Also, don\'t act like Nintendo just has 10 year olds because they certainly don\'t. The people who claim they do are Sony idiots, like yourself.:)

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sorry but had to say that even if I get bashed to hell, that\'s ok I\'m ready for it.

Was your post a joke,or were you actually being serious. My 5 year old cousin could make a better " Nintendo bash" then you just did. This wasn\'t even worth my time, this was way too easy. I feel like I\'m arguing with a 8 year old little girl...seriously.

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BRING IT ON FANBOYS!!!!!

Boy your not making yourself look to good. I hope you learned your lesson junior.

*...idiot destroyed*.








Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: on February 05, 2001, 01:47:21 PM
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who would you rather have sega or square??!!
thats a very difficult choice

ARE YOU KIDDING, the answer is simple SEGA!!!!

square makes ff that\'s all they do good. SEGA well need i say more.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: politiepet on February 05, 2001, 02:03:35 PM
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who would you rather have sega or square??!!
thats a very difficult choice

ARE YOU KIDDING, the answer is simple SEGA!!!!

square makes ff that\'s all they do good. SEGA well need i say more. [/B]

that\'s your opinion, there are a lot of people that\'ll disagree with you on this one, personnaly I prefer square (O\'m not saying that to diss you)
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: on February 05, 2001, 02:10:41 PM
Well if you are a big time RPG fan, well then square would be your bet, but other than that, i\'m mean SEGA is one of, if not the best game developers out there.
Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: ooseven on February 05, 2001, 03:05:33 PM
so what if they are, all this means that people who but the NGC will have squaresoft games too.

infact most developers would be mad not to develop on all formats PS2 XBOx PC NGC etc etc....
more formats = More people = Greater profits if the game is good !
Title: You guys arn\'t gonna like this....
Post by: Jumpman on February 19, 2001, 10:50:59 PM
OOOOOOO more Square rumours have surfaced, this time a game is involved,and so is the Big N.

http://www.gamecube.co.uk/archives/squarefinal.htm


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Square to Develop FF XI  
Japanese news service Nikkei has reported that Final Fantasy XI will be making its way to Nintendo\'s Gamecube. In fact, according to the report Square has been working on porting the game to the Gamecube since it was given dev kits. This only strengthens Square\'s stance that its PlayOnline service is geared to be cross-platform, as Final Fantasy XI has already been confirmed for release on the PC.
Square developed many final fantasy games for Nintendo previously and they were great hits. so expect to be another breath taker.

No official word has been released, but expect something actual details to surface from from Microsoft and Square soon.

Ok,IGN or DailyRadar have said nothing about this entire Square/Nintendo issue. I think it\'s time they found out the truth because this news NEEDS to be confirmed for the benefit of all the Nintendo fans who want to say " Haha in your face" to all the Sony fans(;))

*grabs shield before angry PS2 zealots start to throw stuff at me*

 
 

Title: Square to bring two games to NGC...
Post by: Black Samurai on February 20, 2001, 04:51:54 PM
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
who would you rather have sega or square??!!
thats a very difficult choice


Unquestionably SEGA. They are much more multifaceted than Square. Anyone saying otherwise is a blind fanboy.

BTW, I think the statements that Square makes or breaks a console are unwarranted. All we have to base this on is the PSX, N64 generation and IMO Sony would have won regardless of where Square went. Square is just a talented developer nothing more nothing less and unless they decide to do something new with their FF series they will be come less and less anticipated.