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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Evi on February 08, 2001, 05:16:20 PM
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Go here for the article: :)
http://ps2.ign.com/news/31156.html
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I would not be surprised, people now severly underestimate the ps2, which in a way, is a good thing cause they will piss their pants this e3
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This sucks cause I was really hoping for 10,000,001
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Originally posted by ddaryl
This sucks cause I was really hoping for 10,000,001
maybe they can get that last one if they use the players mental power? lol
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Originally posted by Chrono
I would not be surprised, people now severly underestimate the ps2, which in a way, is a good thing cause they will piss their pants this e3
Simple math.
PS2 + Sega development = Excellent game.
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This aught to make the Nintendo fans at daily radar upset. hehe
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Yea it is about time that people start to relize the true power of the PS2 hardware by looking at great software.
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You guys do realize that they\'re talking about the Naomi 2, not the PS2? The PS2 version may not look as good.
...And don\'t bother flaming me. I\'m a fan of the PS2 who\'s just stating a fact.
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PS2 at full power will be the demise of the competition ahead. Mayben that\'s speculation, but I can betch you every cent you have, Sony will not die in this battle of the console wars!
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Originally posted by Delphian
You guys do realize that they\'re talking about the Naomi 2, not the PS2? The PS2 version may not look as good.
...And don\'t bother flaming me. I\'m a fan of the PS2 who\'s just stating a fact.
But you also have to remember why Sega isn\'t making it for DC. Because it supposedley can\'t handle it. Sega can make for whomever they wish. They aren\'t going to put it on a system that can\'t handle it.
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Well, if there\'s anybody that can squeeze that type of power out of the PS2 it\'s Sega.
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Originally posted by Delphian
Well, if there\'s anybody that can squeeze that type of power out of the PS2 it\'s Sega.
Squeeze ??????????
Will see PS2 games that get up to 15 - 20 mpps before the PS2\'s life starts to fade.
10,000,000 is expected in the near future.
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None of you find this news funny, or sad? Sega, a company who has never produced a game for PS2, is getting 10 million out of there first game. Sega\'s entrance into 3rd partydom will be the downfall of some VERY big giants. EIther that, or these slags will have to start making better games.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
None of you find this news funny, or sad? Sega, a company who has never produced a game for PS2, is getting 10 million out of there first game. Sega\'s entrance into 3rd partydom will be the downfall of some VERY big giants. EIther that, or these slags will have to start making better games.
Eric Jacob
yep
is that not awsome :)
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DELPHIAN is right when he says they are talking about the Naomi 2 boards for the arcade. While I believe that the PS2 can and will be able to do this game at the same numbers we have to realize Sega hasn\'t officially stated how the game is going to look on the PS2. But I do agree with the guy that said in a couple years we\'ll be seeing games cranking out 15-20 million polygons p/sec.
Oh and this just further exploits though that while PS2 is ahead right now(and GC and XBox) above the arcades in power, in a few years the Naomi 3 board will be out and probably surpass console graphics. I think by the end of the PS2 lifespan arcades will have much better graphics, and PCcards, then these consoles. Then PS3 will come out and it\'ll start all over again.
But, you know what? I don\'t care all that much because I\'m still satisfied with my PSX and the graphics to games like Vagrant Story or Chrono Cross on it. I am still yet to see any games, even current generation, to many of the amazing battle effects I have seen in Chrono Cross. They just blew my mind that the PSx was able to do that. I haven\'t even seen the best computer games right now do effects that look that amazing. Anyone else see them, I was just blown away! Go Squaresoft! I wonder what they\'ll be able to pull off for the PS2?
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But we still can\'t know if the final version, the one wich will be released, of VF4 will have 10,000,000 polygons. Very possible, but it could be just a product of Hype.
Only thing fighting against that 10000000 polygons is the fact that Sega\'s making its first game for PS2. Oh well, maybe not, if Sega is learning to use the PS2-toolkit very well and dive deep enough before releasing VF4.
Sega has the talent.
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ahh how i have been longing for the day that sega and sony will unite to become a super team and tear the gameing industry up, this naomi2 thing make it look so amazing, full power, thatisnt the full power of the ps2, not yet, we will see the full power byt he endof next year probably, then ps2 will become god
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he!...remeber what who we are talking about?! Am2 the guys who masterd the SATURN!
An i\'ll think that ps2 should bwe able to do 10.000.000 with full effects, just look at gt3 and you\'ll see its possible
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"Sega\'s entrance into 3rd partydom will be the downfall of some VERY big giants. EIther that, or these slags will have to start making better games." - AlteredBeast
And what\'s wrong with that? Realistically, EA, Capcom, Konami, THQ, Square, and all the others big name companies aren\'t going anywhere. There franchies are too deep rooted and have too large of fanbases to ever really bring the downfall of any of these companies. Some may shrink, and some may flurish.. who knows.. but if we get better games from every direction then who really cares? It\'s a win-win situation for us.
I hope Sega makes a true Phantasy Star sequel (or prequel) for all the consoles in this generation. Not because I want to see Square loose any of it\'s RPG shine.. but competition is good and Phantasy Star is almost as synanomous with RPG\'s as Final Fantasy is. It\'s an excellent series and I\'d love to see it continue.
Hmmm.. come to think of it.. I\'ve heard something about Square and Sega teaming up to make an Arcade game. If this sort of thing continues, perhaps we could see a FF/PS cross over! Kick ass!
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Hey, I got it.. how about a Square/Sega fighting game. Phantasy Star vs. Final Fantasy.. it\'d be kinda like the Marvel vs. Capcom games, only in 3D. On one side, you have all the most popular Final Fantasy heros & villans.. and on the other you have all the Phantasy Star hero\'s and villans. (Well.. actually Darkforce would have to be a boss character.. but Mother Brain, Zio, Lassic, and all the others could be playable characters.) Oh yeah.. this has got me drooling..
Cloud vs. Rolf
Rika vs. Rinoa
Lassic vs. Kefka
Sephiroth vs. Zio
Someone should write a letter to Square and Sega...
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Sega is a very good developer, but you can\'t call Konami or Capcom or Square or even EA sloutches cause there games are looking pretty awesome
Not to mention the PS2 toolkits are getting much better now than what these Dev\'s had to work with early on, on top of the fact that overall knowledge about the PS2 platform is better.
Praising Sega for hitting 10 mpps on there 1st try while trying to make the other large 3rd party developers look lame for not hitting the same poly count at launch is extremly LAME
I grow very tired of Nintendo and Sega fans believeing there respective Companies are surperior, They\'re very talented, but not Superior
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y\'all don\'t understand one big problem. The 10 million number was for the arcade NOT for the PS2.
Thats like saying I really drive a Volkswagon Beetle that performs and feels like a BMW. :)
No game on the PS2 has pulled those numbers so far and this would be SEGA\'s first game for the PS2. I just don\'t see it happening... The PS2 version will probably be a version that is being scalled back.
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The only way I can imagine that Sega is reaching these numbers is if they\'ve really been secretly working secretly on learning the PS2 hardware over the past year or so preparing for the switch form hardware to software. I think this can be the only way.
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Hmmm 10 million polygons ?
are they for reaL ?
OH what its not April the First :D.
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They have worked with complicated hardware before. They know how to work it and get performance.
Why are so many people underestimating Sega? Have any of you actually played AM2 games. They are perfect in every way.
Sega has had PS2 developement kits since November, and VF4 isn\'t coming out on PS2 until early 2002. That\'s a whole year!!
Sega=Excellence!
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The future is looking very bright for the PS2!!! :D
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Sega is the master when it comes to making great games.
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Definitely...:D
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Originally posted by Ginko
They have worked with complicated hardware before. They know how to work it and get performance.
Why are so many people underestimating Sega? Have any of you actually played AM2 games. They are perfect in every way.
Sega has had PS2 developement kits since November, and VF4 isn\'t coming out on PS2 until early 2002. That\'s a whole year!!
Sega=Excellence!
Well the fact that the PS2 has been introduced in March 2000 in Japan but nobody has been able to even get anything close to 10 million makes me doubt that and SEGA is NEW to the hardware and the PS2 is more complicated than that of Saturn. It makes Saturn look simple. I just don\'t think the PS2 hardware can handle the port.
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Originally posted by Dwarrior
Originally posted by Ginko
They have worked with complicated hardware before. They know how to work it and get performance.
Why are so many people underestimating Sega? Have any of you actually played AM2 games. They are perfect in every way.
Sega has had PS2 developement kits since November, and VF4 isn\'t coming out on PS2 until early 2002. That\'s a whole year!!
Sega=Excellence!
Well the fact that the PS2 has been introduced in March 2000 in Japan but nobody has been able to even get anything close to 10 million makes me doubt that and SEGA is NEW to the hardware and the PS2 is more complicated than that of Saturn. It makes Saturn look simple. I just don\'t think the PS2 hardware can handle the port. [/B]
For anyone who doesn\'t know,Dwarrior is one of the worst fanboys of all time. He\'ll say anything to make the PS2 look bad. That post is just an example. Saturn being more complicated than PS2...HA! Go troll another forum DOCWIZ, PSX2CENTRAL was doing just fine while you were away.
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Yea i had to ponder on it a little while but i think that sega is capable of pulling it off - for one they are using the new dev kits and that can make a big difference - thats why even japan hasn\'t seen any amazing games - its because they have been having trouble with development - so this new kits will make it easier for them, also whos to say that some companies hold back so that they can produce something better than the last each time they make a game