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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ReverendXbox on February 09, 2001, 09:04:09 AM
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I read that question from one of the kinder members of this wonderfully constructed forum. It was a good question that I believed warranted a serious reply. Well, first of all, the Reverend believes that this is THE best unofficial PS2 website their is on the web. Another reason is because the Reverend has become hooked on to this forum. It feels like home to the Reverend and my ministry would not be complete without my visit to this wonderful forum. However my crusade is one of truth and of vigilance. I come not to tell you not to buy this system or to buy that system, but I come to dispell any falsehoods spread by the anti-Microsoft zealots...most of whom visit PS2Central. Fanboy or not, you must admit that their are hordes of anti-Microsoft cronies on these boards that spread lie after malicious lie about the company and their latest game console. As an Xbox evangelist and multi-console gamer (read: Nintendo and Sega games) I must uphold the truth when a lie is thrusted forth or when an opinion is advertised as truth. What doth the Reverend mean by this?
Well, for the sake of explaining myself, I\'ll use this example:
From an anti-Microsoft zealot(Note: This is JUST an EXAMPLE...NOT A REAL CASE!!!:
I hate the Xbox! Why do Microsoft try to put their hand in every pot! They feel as if they have to do everything. They shouldn\'t be making games! The Xbox will suck! Xbox will be expensive because I say so! It will be a portbox with nothing but PC ports. It\'s nothing but old PC parts thrown together, that\'s why it sucks! Xbox will have no exclusives so Xbox will die!!
This is what I call the Type A rumor. Type A rumors are Microsoft bash rumors. Now why does the Reverend reply to these? Well, simply because the more innocent casual gamers browsing these boards may read these posts and believe that this is the case and that they shouldn\'t buy an Xbox because they ASSUME this to be true. Although, it is up to the reader to discern the validity of what he reads, the Reverend feels responsible for those that lack that discernment. Here\'s how I would reply:
Well, you zealot, I can tell that you don\'t know what you\'re talking about and that you\'re probably just spouting this BS because you\'re anti-Microsoft. First off, why does Sony have to put their hand in every pot too? They make VCR\'s, TV\'s, stereos, DVD players, movies, and music! If that\'s not having your hand in every pot, I don\'t know what is! Like Sony, Microsoft realizes that they could make a killing in the lucrative videogame industry. Their a software company and Xbox is a software console with the unfortunate hardware issues to deal with. Believe me, if Microsoft could create Xbox software that emulated the machine, they would do so, however that\'s impossible.
Xbox will have PC ports like the PS2, GC and like the DC has already. They\'re inevitable. I see you zealots bashing Xbox and saying it\'s a PC portbox while hyping up Giants: Citizen Kabuto for the PS2. Isn\'t that a PC port? What about Unreal Tournament? Oni? The fact of the matter is that every console will have PC ports. The only question is the quality of the port. Will it be a straight port or use the system\'s added features and have added levels and such? As far as exclusives go, I will reiterate my stance on this subject: WAIT UNTIL AFTER ALL THE MAJOR INDUSTRY SHOWS ARE OVER BEFORE YOU COME TO A CONCLUSION!! This is after E3. I will say no more about that.
There you have it, a fact-filled and hype free response from the Reverend. See, how I used simple logic and reason without making personal attacks against the anti-Microsoft zealot. However, since I have "Xbox" suffixed to my name, I have to put up with this:
AustralianPS2FanboyWhoDoesntEvenOwnAPS2:
yer a fool reverind! you\'re a dumb xbox fanboy who sucks his daddy\'s ****. do us all a favor mate and kill yourself! yer a ****ing ****head **** breath american who ****s his mother!! stop promoting xbox...this is a ps2 forum only xbox lies and ps2 topics are allowed!!
oh yeah, and ian thorpe rules!!!
Then, like flies to a carcass, the Reverend is ganged up upon. If you noticed, in my reply to the false xbox post, neither did I promote Xbox or did I bash the PS2. I just fought facts with ignorance and I still get bashed. This shows the maturity level of this forum and of the game playing audience as a whole. I can carry on a civil rebuttal at the 2Wire forums, or any other intelligent forum without being bashed mercilessly because my views are different from the others.
Here\'s a Type B post that I usually respond to:
PS2Zealout:
Sony can\'t fail! Although the launch didn\'t live up to people\'s expectations, PS2 will still be a success! Don\'t worry, the great games are coming...just wait a while. PS2 is a guaranteed success and because Sony sold 80 million PSX\'s, they will sell 80 million PS2\'s! Sony\'s not having finacial troubles and they are guaranteed to win the console wars! So don\'t worry, just go buy a PS2!
Well, this is obviously an opinion. However, hype is contagious and a casual gamer could accept this as fact. The Reverend\'s response would be like this:
Well, well, aren\'t we presumptous today? I wouldn\'t jump to that conclusion just yet. Sony didn\'t have good competition back in the days of the PSX and just because they sold 80 million PSX\'s doesn\'t mean they\'ll meet or exceed that number with the PS2. You might want to wait until Xbox and GameCube hit the market before you make your choice.
That was short, yet sweet. Without bashing or being condesending(sp?), I tactfully corrected the thinking of the PS2Zealot without insulting him. My rule is this: In any argument, the first man to resort to personal attacks is the first to lose. I intend to stick by that. However, I also expect this too:
AustralianPS2FanboyWhoDoesntEvenOwnAPS2:
yer a fool reverind! go jump off of a bridge and kill yerself. no one likes u reverind!! you suck ****ing ass, you **** sucking ****** bastard!!! go **** yer daddy again mate! yer making a fool out of yerself again...no one likes you u fool! reverind has sex with his mum!!!
oh yeah, and the crocodile hunter rules!!!
What is the Reverend supposed to do about that but ignore then until after E3 rolls around so that we can do the annual "Compare the Screenshots" and "Guess the PolyCount" and watch guys like this flame in desperation.
So in conclusion, the reason I come here is to DEFEND THE TRUTH. I also come here because I like this forum and most of the members on it. You must admit that a LIE is a LIE no matter what forum you\'re on or what console you back (who backs a game console anyway?). The fact of the matter is that wherever LIES are, the Reverend will be also. Thank You.
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Originally posted by ReverendXbox
AustralianPS2FanboyWhoDoesntEvenOwnAPS2:
yer a fool reverind! go jump off of a bridge and kill yerself. no one likes u reverind!! you suck ****ing ass, you **** sucking ****** bastard!!! go **** yer daddy again mate! yer making a fool out of yerself again...no one likes you u fool! reverind has sex with his mum!!!
oh yeah, and the crocodile hunter rules!!!
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Hey, the man does have a point, Steve \'Crocodile Hunter\' Irwin does rule.
:D
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Are we supposed to get up and sing now?
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:D LOL!! Now that\'s what I call reading comprehension. :rolleyes:
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you do have a point but you do bring most of this on your self here
the simple fact that there is sony fanboys here and you like to mess with them for your amusement
So u shouldn\'t go and cry to anybody when they lash back at you
Its simple people will always defend their system to the end - especiallt when they just put a good chunk of change on it.They want it to worth their money - but you come in her and tell them it isn\'t in away.
So you see you are your own problem.
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Rev.. Can u give us LINKS too all these replys. I\'m really interested in the 2 Aussie replys. Because to me. They look like a stereotype to australians. "MATE"
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Hallelujah! Put your hands on the monitor!
Rev you are funny.
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rev, i like yer style, u always knew that
but can i have an abbreviated version of what u said up there?
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Rev.. Can u give us LINKS too all these replys. I\'m really interested in the 2 Aussie replys. Because to me. They look like a stereotype to australians. "MATE"
Hey nathan, no hate, man. I wasn\'t insulting all aussies...just certain ones. You\'re cool, dude.
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hmmmm. still want the links. :D
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Nathan...those were just examples of typical anti-Microsoft fanboys. No one real...all fabricated.
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ahh.. so you stereotyped australians. Though u could have made your point WITHOUT using any type of Nationality.
See i could make it like this.
The Trigger happy american.
Yo fool, go jump off a bridge fool. and kill your dumbarse.
No boda likes a punk like you. Your a pansy, homegirl wannabe. i have a bullet with your name on it homes.
And one for your white boy daddy punk.
You keep walkin in our turf man, Wearin our colors. Yet your not part of this turf. You looking for a drillin fool. Why don\'t you leave this place homes. step back now fool. This is OUR turf man. I\'m gonna pop your arse.
That isn\'t nice now is it.
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Then there is no point.
And how much time have you spent to think for this thread?
If it were us getting to XBOX forums for the same reason you come in here we would have been attacked even worse.
And I dont think your posts show the reason you say you come but they show that its for PS2 bashing or XBOX hyping.
By Irvin
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someone\'s been watching too many american movies
ehhe
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Uhh S.G. I really don\'t think he meant anything to aussies. Now you\'re just pissing off Americans.
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Just as someones been watching, Properly 1 australian movie.
Croc dun dee.
Emp. I\'m not trying to insult Americans. I\'m just showing how EASY it is to stereotype people. If what i said pisses of americans. How do u think what REV say\'s makes aussies feel?
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actually, i prefer mad max, road warrior
or gallipoli
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Mad max is good. :D Though most Australian films i\'ve seen. SUCK, Or really look like old UK movies. Aus films suck.
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another good one is bad taste or dead alive
both are great horror films out of Oz
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Haven\'t seen them. Though they properly suck too. Compared too hell Raser or The cube, Nightmare from elm street is good, Or friday the 13. Though they are old. They are great.
Even, EVIL dead. Or night of the living dead. :D
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trust me, dead alive is a great shock horror film. no american film can touch it. hollywood isnt all that.
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i may have to hire it. Some twisted wirdo properly made it. :D
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
ahh.. so you stereotyped australians. Though u could have made your point WITHOUT using any type of Nationality.
See i could make it like this.
The Trigger happy american.
Yo fool, go jump off a bridge fool. and kill your dumbarse.
No boda likes a punk like you. Your a pansy, homegirl wannabe. i have a bullet with your name on it homes.
And one for your white boy daddy punk.
You keep walkin in our turf man, Wearin our colors. Yet your not part of this turf. You looking for a drillin fool. Why don\'t you leave this place homes. step back now fool. This is OUR turf man. I\'m gonna pop your arse.
That isn\'t nice now is it. [/B]
ROTFL!!! I thought you were a real American for a sec... :D
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Actually the reverend seems quite an intellignet person though admittedly i have not read all his posts but he keeps the forum interesting imho
Rev on reverend.....
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I agree that Bad Taste is very good. It\'s the best splatter I\'ve seen!
And the director, Peter Jackson, is doing the Lord of the Rings -trilogy!!!; or he\'s directing it.
Very interesting project.
And stereotype of a finn to you all:
"Votka. Give me absolut votka. Koskenkorva to the table immediately! Ok, after Vodka I\'ll go to sauna. Ahhh... Sauna! Now, with my beerbelly, I\'ll go swim into open hole in ice to a water wich is about 2 degrees cold. Nice! Then I go and Sauna again. Ok, I\'m a stereotypized finn :)"
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Originally posted by mm
trust me, dead alive is a great shock horror film. no american film can touch it. hollywood isnt all that.
STRAIGHT UP! Especially the scene where he beats the baby and the lawnmower scene! How hilarious. Hey I think I just found my new signature. What is it that they guy says at the beginning of the movie? "They say all the rats came off the slave ships and raped all the tree monkeys".
good stuff :D
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Now thats the Reverend we all knew and loved, what happend did you kill of that evil, Troll, fanboy clone that was using your name in vain ?
well done mate :D.
I was begining to think the pod people where invading again :D.
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yes. welcome back rev.
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wow...i can\'t belive some people are buying this crap....reverendxbox is nothing but a xbox zealot anti-ps2 fanboy and will always be that....i should know trust me.
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Originally posted by Nplayer-2
wow...i can\'t belive some people are buying this crap....reverendxbox is nothing but a xbox zealot anti-ps2 fanboy and will always be that....i should know trust me.
we know , but as long as he posts his sermons , he is not being a total TROLL !
this way he as to put the work and stop SLACKING OF !
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Hey reverend, you would if a good point with that (awefully long) post, if it weren\'t for the fact that it\'s not true, that\'s not what you do, cause you posts yer own threads saying for instance: sony losing popularity (whoopdidoo), I can\'t call that replieing to a ps2 fanboy post, I call it: xbox fanboy post>
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Originally posted by politiepet
Hey reverend, you would if a good point with that (awefully long) post, if it weren\'t for the fact that it\'s not true, that\'s not what you do, cause you posts yer own threads saying for instance: sony losing popularity (whoopdidoo), I can\'t call that replieing to a ps2 fanboy post, I call it: xbox fanboy post>
hey he posts "sony losing popularity" in the days he was losing the plot !.
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
Originally posted by mm
trust me, dead alive is a great shock horror film. no american film can touch it. hollywood isnt all that.
STRAIGHT UP! Especially the scene where he beats the baby and the lawnmower scene! How hilarious. Hey I think I just found my new signature. What is it that they guy says at the beginning of the movie? "They say all the rats came off the slave ships and raped all the tree monkeys".
good stuff :D [/B]
That movie was directed by Peter Jackson! have you seen any of his other stuff? like Meet the Feebles?!?! It\'s a drug fueled muppet porno. YES Muppets get naked and do heroin! Also, Mr. Jackson is currently directing the LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY
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man those movies kicked ass, and me and my girl are getting some movies and chilling here tonigh (YAY!), so I think I might grab then, thanx for the tips guys, always helping me out, I luv this forum :)