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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: kirath on February 13, 2001, 01:21:03 PM
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Im a big linux user and this has to be the worst operating system I have ever seen. Why not just merge with apple instead... So we can all own Macs..
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/
Take a look and let me know what you think..
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I won\'t judge it as I have not used it yet, obviously.
To me, the UI looks like a cheap rip off of the Mac OS X, which I am personally awaiting anxiously. I personally don\'t except anything ground-breaking. It is an MS product, and I don\'t want to "trash" them, but MS products in general are less then stellar.
I would personally like to see Apple get a bigger marketshare in general. In my personal opinion the Mac OS has always been above the Windoze OS , espically in terms of the UI. Not to mention with OS X, you are getting UNIX and Classic Mac OS 9, so it can run the classic applications. Then take in affect, you can use Virtual PC to emulate Windoze (for some odd reason, if you ever wanted to) and in my opinion, it is the better buy.
Windows was never that great of a product. Instead, MS moved in with good buisness choices. Having developers installing Windows back in the ole\' days as default, so people would be forced to use it, was a smart choice on MS\'s part. By the time people was complaining and getting tired of MS\'s crap--it was too late.
Bright side: This one didn\'t crash while Bill was demostrating it for everyone. :D
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hah hah it looks terrible.Bad ripoff,of MacOS X (like Living-in-a-Clip I\'m very excided about it)
But this looks like LegoOS or KiddyOS or something (NintendoOS maybe ;) nah kidding)
It does have XML based skinning though which is a very good feature.
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Originally posted by nO-One
hah hah it looks terrible.Bad ripoff,of MacOS X (like Living-in-a-Clip I\'m very excided about it)
But this looks like LegoOS or KiddyOS or something (NintendoOS maybe ;) nah kidding)
It does have XML based skinning though which is a very good feature.
Mmm\'hmm, its a good feature. But not enough to save it. The already clumsy Start Menu looks worse!
I don\'t care how stable it is , if it is clumsy and time consuming to use, it isn\'t worth it. And that UI looks too clumsy for serious professional use.
The GUI should be easy to use, fast to use, accesible, and pretty to look at. So far, XP looks to have none of the above.
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Your right living in clip. (I don\'t know why I always put that stupid A when I write your name)
I think you can make the start menu look like the old one atleast you could do that in the previus build.
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Heh heh you can get a laptop with WindowsXP preinstalled here (http://www.fisher-price.com/US/products/product.asp?id=3166) ;):D
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I don\'t like Microsoft as a company, but I can\'t help to wonder why everyone is so obsessed with bashing their products. If I had a choice between Windows and Macintosh, I\'d pick Windows. Of course my only experience with Macintosh computers is with the ones at school which are about 5 years old so I guess that would be an uneducated choice. Anyway, don\'t come back at me with some crap about me being a MS fanboy because ALL of you should know by now that I am on PS2\'s side. And it annoys the hell outta me that MicroSh!t thinks that they can just swoop in, flash some $$$, and suddenly have a monopoly on the gaming industry just like they do on everything else electronic.
BTW I agree we don\'t need another freaking version of Windows for some time now. ME has only just been released last year.
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Originally posted by nO-One
Heh heh you can get a laptop with WindowsXP preinstalled here (http://www.fisher-price.com/US/products/product.asp?id=3166) ;):D
hahahaa!!! Fisher Price.
Here is something funny..
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2685427,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews01
The most interesting quote from it
At least one developer who viewed Tuesday\'s presentation was not impressed.
"This is so sad. They\'re just lamely trying to copy Steve Jobs\' Apple presentation--right down to the
guy having a black shirt and black pants," said one Whistler tester who watched the Seattle event
via Webcast and requested anonymity. "It\'s almost like Windows ME 2. Or as Apple might call it,
Windows Me Too."
Its not a good sign when developers start to make fun of MS\'s lack of innovation.
I am not bashing MS, as I think they are great buisness, in the sense they know how to dominate a market. And, thanks to them alot of people started using computers. Though, an old Mac years ago was the first computer I used, the first one I bought was a Windows machine. And, for the time, being a new user,it was easy to use and I didn\'t complain about the crashes. After I became more "educated" and demanding of the OS, I realized it wasn\'t that great. The biggest problem MS suffers from is upgrading. They keep throwing upgrade and patches out, and people lose interest. Now, right off the launch of a diaster--Windows ME, they are talking about Windows XP. Do they expect people who just upgraded (more like downgraded) to Windows ME to spend more money on another version of Windows? Its not bashing. Its just the simple idea, that if you pay $100 dollars or so for a new version of Windows, you would expect MS to improve on the OS. Win2k as an improvement. But now, they are leaving that behind for XP, even though, really Win2k is still a new product, in terms of an Operating system\'s lifespan. So, basically, they have two new version of Windows out there, that people spent their money on, for they can come out and go.."Oh, we got it right this time. Give us another $100 dollars and pray."
And I wouldn\'t say they are trying to flash money and get a monopoly on the gaming industry. It isn\'t possible. The industry is to firm without MS around. What they are doing, is flashing money and trying to get some developers and exclusive games. Nothing big. Infact, its common buisness. I have high hopes for the Xbox--just not Windows XP.
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There was a rumor that the people at MS felt threatened of the Aqua GUI.To me it looks like this UI was designed in a hurry so they could show something new and different,but it looks like it blew up in their faces.
But keep in mind this is designed to look friendly to computer newbies.
Anyway here are some screenies :)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fwindowsxp%2Fguide%2Fimages%2Fdg6-windowslogon.gif&hash=aacb614eb4b7517aa1ffa12e02ebb6f72adcfe55)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fwindowsxp%2Fguide%2Fimages%2Fdg7-startmenu.gif&hash=4c19a7ace087c3084de994fa987680dd9d06b6f6)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fwindowsxp%2Fguide%2Fimages%2Fdg10-mypictures.gif&hash=276730be75dafb148100e01f145ebc951d8396a0)
Ughhhh :(
Ohh and look at the start panel.See the Windows Movie maker.......hello iMovie ripoff
again Ughhh :(
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lol. Looks like a OS from Nintendo.. :D j/k.
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Gotta love the \'astro-turf\' green Start button!:D
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Here a little something i thought was funny on the web site
Experience the Possibilities
Windows XP, built on the dependable Windows engine, features a fresh new look and enables exciting, new personal computing experiences.
yea right whe has it ever been known as dependable
please someone tell me which one is dependable so i can rush out and buy it
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Originally posted by Sublimesjg
Here a little something i thought was funny on the web site
Experience the Possibilities
Windows XP, built on the dependable Windows engine, features a fresh new look and enables exciting, new personal computing experiences.
yea right whe has it ever been known as dependable
please someone tell me which one is dependable so i can rush out and buy it
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Windows NT and 2K isn\'t that bad actually. They should stick with 2K for the home users and NT for the servers and forget all about XP for awhile.
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"Im a big linux user and this has to be the worst operating system I have ever seen." - kilrath
Well hey, if you know what Linux and it\'s programs are like, can you answer a question for me? I just got a copy of MacMillan\'s Complete Linux-Mandrake 6.1 (Red Hat+ Enhancements) and I just need to know how dependable WINE is. I\'ve got a crapload of Dos and Windows games/applications that I\'d hate to loose because they won\'t run under Linux.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Originally posted by Sublimesjg
Here a little something i thought was funny on the web site
Experience the Possibilities
Windows XP, built on the dependable Windows engine, features a fresh new look and enables exciting, new personal computing experiences.
yea right whe has it ever been known as dependable
please someone tell me which one is dependable so i can rush out and buy it
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Windows NT and 2K isn\'t that bad actually. They should stick with 2K for the home users and NT for the servers and forget all about XP for awhile. [/B]
oh well i am stuck with ME right now - but i have heard that 2000 is good - dang i hate ME so bad
I need to try out 2000 and see it for myself
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Don\'t. I used to have 2000 and it sucked. Uses waaaaaaaaaaay to much of your system resources and bogs down your computer like hell. After all, 2000 was made for buisnesses. I have ME now and its much better. Its basically WIN 98(which uses much less system resources) with all the nicer features of 2000. ME is better IMO.
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.........ugh another windows update. Doesnt look impressive however I have yet to use it, so cant judge it.
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Windows 2000 is actually a quite good OS - and stable too.
Don\'t bash me, but I\'m looking forward to Whistler, errr, I mean Windows XP. But I\'d be happy with Windows 2K until then. :)
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WIN2K is a stable OS. ME is a piece of **** OS--to be blunt. It is a diaster in every form possible.
But, the world doesn\'t need another MS update.
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
Don\'t. I used to have 2000 and it sucked. Uses waaaaaaaaaaay to much of your system resources and bogs down your computer like hell. After all, 2000 was made for buisnesses. I have ME now and its much better. Its basically WIN 98(which uses much less system resources) with all the nicer features of 2000. ME is better IMO.
Yes ME is also based on a bad kernel,has terible memory management and bad PMT (preemtive multitasking)
I\'m using Win2k and I\'m quite satisfied (as satisfied as Windows will get you anyway).
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Found more screenies bigger ones more detail....it still sucks.
My Computer (http://www.ics.uci.edu/~yoonm/mycomp.png)
Properties (http://www.ics.uci.edu/~yoonm/properties.png)
Desktop 1024x768 (http://www.ics.uci.edu/~yoonm/desktop.png)
Fisher PriceOS made by children for children :D
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what os these operating systems is the best?
W95
W98
W NT
W ME
W 2000
?????
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well after talking to some people i ahev come to conclude that NT and 2000 are the best Windows OS to date
they are very stable and i guess i need to update from me cuz it does suck
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2000 basically NT with more features.
ME/9x=big no no
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That is the worse color scheme ever. What is with random green buttons on a blue background? And why did they feel the need to make it look like a bad version of the Aqua interface? Ick. Ick. Ick!!
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Sorry, this is a bit off topic:
nO-One, do you have ICQ? Otherwise you should get it. I would like to get you on my list. :)
Ok, to get back on topic: Perhaps MS will change the look of the GUI. They seem to have tried several different solutions throughout the Whistler betas. But I still think Windows XP will be a great OS. It has some nice features. But as I said earlier - Win 2K can do the job for now. :)
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No I don\'t have ICQ.
And to me the worst part about XP is that you have to be a subscriber (or something like that) to it.(no more free Windows for me :().And the same thing with OfficeXP.
You can\'t just go out and buy the OS (or borrow the CD from a friend ;)) you have to register at MS.
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Originally posted by nO-One
ME/9x=big no no
jajajj :D :D :D (W9x=****)
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Another screenie for you.A big one:) (http://www.nicefire.com/kurt/desktop.jpg)
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Ummm... definatly colorful!
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Originally posted by SonyFan
"Im a big linux user and this has to be the worst operating system I have ever seen." - kilrath
Well hey, if you know what Linux and it\'s programs are like, can you answer a question for me? I just got a copy of MacMillan\'s Complete Linux-Mandrake 6.1 (Red Hat+ Enhancements) and I just need to know how dependable WINE is. I\'ve got a crapload of Dos and Windows games/applications that I\'d hate to loose because they won\'t run under Linux.
It works really well acutally. But then again it also depends on what applications you are running. If your MS office crashes on you in windows all the time then its going to have a tuff job running good in wine. ACtually some people say it runs better under wine. I know someone who was running windows95 in a window. Pretty damn funny. ANd don\'t go 6.1... 6.1 is nice and its really stable, but you really have to do a lot of updating. If your new to the ball game, go 7.2.. Or kernel release 2.2.4 REally really nice features and compatablity with all the hardware out there. I love it. I just set up a server the other day and got Web services, e-mail, mp3 streaming all set up in about 4 hours. Good good stuff.
:)
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Originally posted by nO-One
And to me the worst part about XP is that you have to be a subscriber (or something like that) to it.(no more free Windows for me :().And the same thing with OfficeXP.
You can\'t just go out and buy the OS (or borrow the CD from a friend ;)) you have to register at MS.
Are you sure about this?? I haven\'t heard that before. That would suck (for those who likes to pirate Windows I mean, not me personally of course :D). So how is it supposed to work?
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I\'m not sure how it works but apparently you can\'t pirate XP.We who like to ummm "borrow" windows CD\'s will be in deep doh if we have to actually buy the OS (shudder) :crap:+
Ohh well we will find someway to "borrow" the OS.
Ohh and a few things I\'ve heard.
XP will be tied to your hardware.
If your not allowed to listen to a downloaded (pirated) song the OS will insert noise while playing it.
Those are the things I\'ve heard.
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People devote hours and even their lives to undermining the monopoly of MS.. And good, because it keeps that company slightly in check.
They will find a way around it, they always do.. :D
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Originally posted by nO-One
I\'m not sure how it works but apparently you can\'t pirate XP.We who like to ummm "borrow" windows CD\'s will be in deep doh if we have to actually buy the OS (shudder) :crap:+
Ohh well we will find someway to "borrow" the OS.
Ohh and a few things I\'ve heard.
XP will be tied to your hardware.
If your not allowed to listen to a downloaded (pirated) song the OS will insert noise while playing it.
Those are the things I\'ve heard.
LOL, that sounds horrible. I guess I\'ll stick to Win2K if all of this is indeed true. But we\'d better wait till it\'s actually released. :)
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Originally posted by kirath
People devote hours and even their lives to undermining the monopoly of MS.. And good, because it keeps that company slightly in check.
They will find a way around it, they always do.. :D
Amen to that
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Originally posted by nO-One
I\'m not sure how it works but apparently you can\'t pirate XP.We who like to ummm "borrow" windows CD\'s will be in deep doh if we have to actually buy the OS (shudder) :crap:+
Ohh well we will find someway to "borrow" the OS.
Ohh and a few things I\'ve heard.
XP will be tied to your hardware.
If your not allowed to listen to a downloaded (pirated) song the OS will insert noise while playing it.
Those are the things I\'ve heard.
http://www.The-Ctrl-Alt-Del.com/
Look around there. There was a lenghtly discussion on the new security measures for Windows XP (the pros and cons) and how simple it is to get past in all reality. You may have to look around in the archives as it was when the first leaked version of at the time "Whislter" came out. But, its there..
;)
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an article from the above source given by L-I-C
January 16, 2001 | Paul Thurrott
Whistler anti-piracy measures confirmed
As first reported in WinInfo Daily UPDATE, Microsoft will institute an anti-piracy measure in Whistler, the next version of Windows 2000, that will tie the Product Key to the machine ID of the first PC on which its installed. Dubbed "product activation" by the company, the feature is designed to reduce casual copying by requiring the Internet- or phone-based registration, or activation, of Whistler before it can be used. This process will create a unique identification code for that particular installation based on the Product Key that was entered and certain criteria from the hardware configuration. If the user attempts to install that copy of Whistler on a different machine with the same Product Key, the activation will fail. Whistler\'s product activation feature is similar to that used by Office 10, which will debut a few months before the Whistler desktop versions.
Microsoft says that product activation does not scan a user\'s hard drive or register the make and model of the PC with the company. Instead, a random installation ID is generated using unnamed parts of the hardware configuration, and the Product ID, and that number is registered along with the Product ID at Microsoft. Users concerned about changing their system\'s configuration have nothing to fear: Microsoft understands that people upgrade components in their systems and their product activation scheme takes this into account. If a user completely recreates a system from scratch, say replacing the motherboard and other main components simultaneously, they will need to call Microsoft to activate the product when it is re-registered. This process will make it impossible to reinstall the OS on the old system.
Product activation is designed almost solely for consumers, and it won\'t affect most corporations, which typically purchase Microsoft products with volume licenses. Microsoft says that product activation will only be included in versions of Whistler that are sold at retail or acquired by consumers through PC makers and other OEMs.
so that pretty much confrims some of no one\'s statements about not being able to borrow windows from someone and put it on your computer - so it is gonna be pretty hard to find a way around it
BTW here is a pic that was with the article i thought was funny:
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.the-ctrl-alt-del.com%2Fhardware_destruction%2FFunny%2Fsoftware%2Fwinmac.jpg&hash=7b98b77a7e2022f74553618f9c1292f4d5043d17)
windows through smifnoff vodka - who would have known
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The URL I posted earlier somewhere in the archives has the way to beat XP protection. I remember reading it, it wasn\'t that complicated either. Few register tweaks and what not, if I remember correctly. That is--if MS doesn\'t change it since the beta proteciton was already defeated. It wouldn\'t suprise me if MS doesn\'t go back to the drawing board for its copyright protection, before the final release of XP. Even if so, it would only be an extremely short time, before it was figured out.
The mere idea of binding one copy of XP to the hardware is beyond stupid. Think of it like this, for Network Admins who wish to install Xp over a network, that would mean they have to buy a copy of XP for each PC and keep up with the reg codes for each copy also. Good for Microsoft? Yeah, they could in theory sell 200 + copies of Xp to just one network. Bad for the network Admins? More then you can imagine. It would be a huge hassle / expensive / time consuming.
Also, what about situation B? Where you upgrade the HD and what not and then it won\'t let you install Xp over? There is alot of situations / instances that would make XP and its copy protection a hassle that shouldn\'t be dealt with.
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I believe this is the article you were talking about:
Copy protection on Whistler easily cracked
By: John Lettice
Posted: 19/01/2001 at 13:26 GMT
Whistler\'s copy protection is by no means uncrackable, according to various of The Register\'s shady sources. The hardware-locked key system currently shipping with the Whistler beta seems to be fairly easy to get around, and the inconvenience of the system - if it ships with the production Whistler - will be likely to encourage the widespread use of cracks, and even of doctored installation disks that are entirely unlocked.
As we said the other month, the greater the inconvenience for the user that comes with anti-piracy measures, the more likely the users are going to feel morally justified in ripping the protection off. Whistler protection sounds like one of Microsoft\'s most inconvenient methods ever, so go figure.
Whistler (along with Office 10) uses a combination of a CD key and a code generated from the specific machine\'s hardware to generate another code, which is then validated by Microsoft by phone or over the Web, and you get another key which unlocks the software. You can\'t use it on two different machines,* and if you change your hardware and need to reinstall the key you have isn\'t valid. It\'s aggravating for ordinary users, and likely to be crippling for systems admins who want to be able to do multiple installs simply.
But the protection isn\'t rocket science, and we\'re told the following method works (as we don\'t yet have the version of Whistler with the protection, we can\'t verify it):
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- Disconnect from any network.
- Start the install, but don\'t use dynamic update (which wants to connect, right?)
- After installation and on first boot, don\'t set up your
Internet connection when it asks. Click next or skip - the wizard will crash when you click next.
- Click Start/Run and type:
regsvr32.exe -u regwizc.dll
Close the confirmation window that appears.
- Start/run: regedit
- Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\WindowsNT\\CurrentVersion change RegDone value to 1
- Open up Internet Explorer. Open the Tools/Internet Properties and change your home page to something that isn\'t Microsoft or MSN.
- Reboot and before windows starts up, plug your network connection back in.
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Basically, the protection is circumventable with just a little bit of detouring and a regedit. Microsoft no doubt knows this, but is presumably banking on most users going along with the process, as they\'ve tended to do in the past. But as we say, the inconvenience factor may well change the ratios.
And another thing worth considering - granted ordinary users who\'ve paid for the software will tend to just go through the process as specified by Microsoft, but who are the people most motivated not to? That\'s right, it\'s the pirates the system is supposed to be tackling. Pirates will make it their business to know how to rip off the protection and burn the software onto modified install CDs, which they\'ll then sell cheap. If the protection isn\'t very good - which it isn\'t - then they don\'t have any more trouble with it than before, so Microsoft hits the honest punters, misses the target entirely, and maybe co-opts the people in the middle into the twilight zone of legality.
So friends, is this system really intended to tackle piracy at all? Isn\'t it perhaps more plausible to think of the objective as being to enforce universal registration of Microsoft products with Microsoft?
* On this subject, we\'re not sure where this leaves the legendary \'two machine\' Microsoft licence agreement. According to the Microsoft site some licences allow to run the software on two machines, say, office and portable, but just not at the same time. We don\'t know who gets these licences, we know all ours say just the one machine, so it may be an academic question anyway. ®
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:)
That is what I was talking about. Thanks man.
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no prob ;)
it wasn\'t hard to find - i should have seen it earlier whe getting the other
guess i must have just overlooked it
oh well at least people don\'t have to go and find it now like i did :)
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Yes just what I needed I don\'t have to be afraid to use Fisher PriceOS any more woohoo :D
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Keeping\'em screenies coming :D
Just click here (http://212.242.48.194/images/2428/w9.png)
I hate the start button :mad:
ohh and here\'s a small part from an article on Wired.com about the noise XP will make while your listening to unsecure media
The Secure Audio Path (SAP) adds "static" interference to media files that require video and audio cards to authenticate themselves with Windows software before they can be played. The company would be able to verify that a media player isn\'t playing an "unsecured" file, which according to Microsoft would eliminate much of the threat of piracy.
and here\'s the link (http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,41614,00.html?tw=wn20010213)
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yea but does that mean it would not allow you to burn MP3\'s?
if so i think i might need to stay away from XP
I make cds for people at work and my friends all the time and also that is just sorry
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Discussion among the developers of Windows XP
Bill: Apple has a new OS coming out. We need a new one also.
Some Programmer: But, Master Bill. We just released Windows ME and the public isn\'t happy with us. Shouldn\'t we wait?
Bill: No! It needs out soon. It also needs big buttons.
Programmer: Big Buttons?
Bill: Yes! Apple\'s new "Aqua" interface has big buttons. We need them too!
Programmer: Oh..er..Okay. Big buttons.
Bill: Make everything colorful also. I want big buttons and blue everywhere. With some green for good sakes.
Programmer: Uh..
Bill: Make sure those buttons look 3D also! Apple\'s OS has 3D buttons! We need 3D buttons damnit!
Programmer: Oh..Okay. 3D buttons.
Programmer: Is that all, Master Bill?
Bill: Yes.
Programmer: What about device changes? Updating the kernel? What?
Bill: What? Why would you do that? We are using our most stable one already. Why go add things? Don\'t add a thing damnit! It may start crashing like Win98 and ME did!
Programmer: Good point, Sir!
Bill: One more thing..
Programmer: Yes?
Bill: Throw some new copy protection in there, that will piss off NetWork Admins.
Programmer: Gotcha!
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lol
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funny but could be true
i mean why are they coming out with something so soon
they already seem to have something good going for them with 2000 and now they are gonna mess it all up with this joke of a copy of the Apple OS
well here MS goes again
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ME has alwyas worked much better than 2000 for me. When I first installed 2000, I couldn\'t use my printer, sound card, or modem(aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!). Had no such problems with ME.
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
ME has alwyas worked much better than 2000 for me. When I first installed 2000, I couldn\'t use my printer, sound card, or modem(aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!). Had no such problems with ME.
You are one of the few. If not the only person I have ever "met" to say ME worked good for them. For the most part it is a diaster. But, if it works good for you, then I can\'t see a reason to upgrade to XP.
But, you probably just needed to update your drivers. That is why, if I am updating my OS, I always get the newest drivers off the webpage, throw them on DISK and then install the new OS. For I have the new drivers ready for the new OS.
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yeah that was pretty much it. plus my modem sucked. hehe.
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Thank\'s kilrath. I\'ll probably end up going the dual-boot route for those programs I can\'t get to run under Wine. I figure all my Windows compatable stuff will go on my 6gig with Win98 and I\'ll put Linux on my old 2giger. (Or maybe it\'ll be the other way around depending on how fast I learn Linux).
One more question though.. Where can I download a copy of 7.2? The manual I got with Mandrake 6.2 said that Linux is basically freeware and can be given to anyone provided the copys aren\'t sold. How big is the download, or would it just be easier to pick up a copy at Staples and at least have a hardcopy of all the documentation to read while on the toilet or something. (heh, sounds like a Jeff Foxworthy joke. "If you read Linux manuals on the TOILET... you just might.. be a geek. :) )
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Originally posted by Sublimesjg
Here a little something i thought was funny on the web site
Experience the Possibilities
Windows XP, built on the dependable Windows engine, features a fresh new look and enables exciting, new personal computing experiences.
yea right whe has it ever been known as dependable
please someone tell me which one is dependable so i can rush out and buy it
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Windows NT and 2K isn\'t that bad actually. They should
stick with 2K for the home users and NT for the servers and
forget all about XP for awhile. [/B]
you must be kidding, my friend had win2k, from his 20 games only 5 would work on it WITH minor problems, the others where either graphically tottaly glitched (cant run them in opengl or direct3d only in software) or where not working
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Originally posted by SonyFan
Thank\'s kilrath. I\'ll probably end up going the dual-boot route for those programs I can\'t get to run under Wine. I figure all my Windows compatable stuff will go on my 6gig with Win98 and I\'ll put Linux on my old 2giger. (Or maybe it\'ll be the other way around depending on how fast I learn Linux).
One more question though.. Where can I download a copy of 7.2? The manual I got with Mandrake 6.2 said that Linux is basically freeware and can be given to anyone provided the copys aren\'t sold. How big is the download, or would it just be easier to pick up a copy at Staples and at least have a hardcopy of all the documentation to read while on the toilet or something. (heh, sounds like a Jeff Foxworthy joke. "If you read Linux manuals on the TOILET... you just might.. be a geek. :) )
(has Redhat Linux 5.0 Unleashed book in my bathoom..ehh..)
Anyways, I\'m not sure where you can download it, as I never bothered with this 56k. If I was you, I\'d just go pick up a book, because most if not all of them come with a version of Linux. That way, you get the book, the cd for if something goes wrong or you decide to un-install then re-install.
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Originally posted by Sublimesjg
Here a little something i thought was funny on the web site
Experience the Possibilities
Windows XP, built on the dependable Windows engine, features a fresh new look and enables exciting, new personal computing experiences.
yea right whe has it ever been known as dependable
please someone tell me which one is dependable so i can rush out and buy it
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Windows NT and 2K isn\'t that bad actually. They should
stick with 2K for the home users and NT for the servers and
forget all about XP for awhile. [/B]
you must be kidding, my friend had win2k, from his 20 games only 5 would work on it WITH minor problems, the others where either graphically tottaly glitched (cant run them in opengl or direct3d only in software) or where not working [/B]
You have to relise that those games were created for Win9x/ME.Win2k is based on the NT kernel it\'s totally different,and it\'s pretty impressive that they managed to intigrate DirectX into it and keep compatability to most games.
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Originally posted by nO-One
Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Originally posted by Sublimesjg
Here a little something i thought was funny on the web site
Experience the Possibilities
Windows XP, built on the dependable Windows engine, features a fresh new look and enables exciting, new personal computing experiences.
yea right whe has it ever been known as dependable
please someone tell me which one is dependable so i can rush out and buy it
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Windows NT and 2K isn\'t that bad actually. They should
stick with 2K for the home users and NT for the servers and
forget all about XP for awhile. [/B]
you must be kidding, my friend had win2k, from his 20 games only 5 would work on it WITH minor problems, the others where either graphically tottaly glitched (cant run them in opengl or direct3d only in software) or where not working [/B]
You have to relise that those games were created for Win9x/ME.Win2k is based on the NT kernel it\'s totally different,and it\'s pretty impressive that they managed to intigrate DirectX into it and keep compatability to most games. [/B]
There is a utility on the Win2K CD that will let you set compability for programs/games - so that you could fool it into thinking the OS is really Win95. It\'ll be an integrated part of WinXP though.
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Well latest thing apparently WinXP may not be skinnable,well not as skinnable as we thought.
We first heard the rumour that Microsoft was dropping plans to "skin" Microsoft XP during Comdex. Now Redmond says it won\'t be releasing those theming APIs to developers. It\'s also likely that Microsoft will attempt to control the third party themes by bouncing digitally signed themes off the system.
To be fair to Microsoft, it never actually said that its \'Visual Styles\' would be part of the final XP release; and to be scrupulously fair, Microsoft has never claimed that the gentle makeover offered by Visual Styles would offer those outlandish, full blown skins you can find over at skinz.org. Then again, it didn\'t exactly bust a gut to dispel those misapprehensions, either.
ohh man the one redeeming quality of WinXP to me may be gone.If this is true I might just stick to win2k and other alternitive OS\'s :( well I will always use other OS\'s ;)
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http://www.The-Ctrl-Alt-Del.com/2001/Review/Maab/WinXP/windowsXP.htm
There is a good review of the Beta release of XP. Including some pictures of it..........CRASHING!:D
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The more I see it the more I hate the start button
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Ahh hahahahahahahahahahaha
a proper background for WinXP :laughing:
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fcg_beige%2F.Pictures%252FteletubbiesXP.jpg&hash=2f4df0a62dc048b72b0881c062c05e73e780a3a9)
:laughing:
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I can\'t deny the OS looks horrible. Maybe the worse OS X clone possible. But, it will still be popular. MS will have it installed on all the desktop / laptop computers sold (almost all) like they did with ME. Huge marketing campaign. So either way, it will still be a massive OS.
Apple needs to focus on selling the OS--then the computer. What I mean by that is, you see all these commercials for their latest fashionable computer, yet they don\'t tout the OS. The idea commercial would have them selling both the hardware and the OS . They need to roll out a huge marketing campaign for MAC OS X. Get it in the public eye and do something edgy. Tell the advantages over Windows and then, if possible, they should buy Virutal PC out or at least sign them up as part of the package. That way they can also gloat how OS X can use those Windoze programs, for people who don\'t want to give up their Windoze applications. Only problem with that, is Virtual PC requires a version of Windows, so it would raise OS X price up alot. Maybe sell it as a package deal or some custom thing. I\'m sure APPLE could find a way to incorpate it. If not, they could still go on about the advantages of the MAC OS X and still have alot over Windows (i.e, UNIX enviorment!).
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Belive me on March 24th Apple will start a huge ad campaign.They have put to much into this OS for it to fail so they will market it heavily
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Discussion among the developers of Windows XP
Bill: Apple has a new OS coming out. We need a new one also.
Some Programmer: But, Master Bill. We just released Windows ME and the public isn\'t happy with us. Shouldn\'t we wait?
Bill: No! It needs out soon. It also needs big buttons.
Programmer: Big Buttons?
Bill: Yes! Apple\'s new "Aqua" interface has big buttons. We need them too!
Programmer: Oh..er..Okay. Big buttons.
Bill: Make everything colorful also. I want big buttons and blue everywhere. With some green for good sakes.
Programmer: Uh..
Bill: Make sure those buttons look 3D also! Apple\'s OS has 3D buttons! We need 3D buttons damnit!
Programmer: Oh..Okay. 3D buttons.
Programmer: Is that all, Master Bill?
Bill: Yes.
Programmer: What about device changes? Updating the kernel? What?
Bill: What? Why would you do that? We are using our most stable one already. Why go add things? Don\'t add a thing damnit! It may start crashing like Win98 and ME did!
Programmer: Good point, Sir!
Bill: One more thing..
Programmer: Yes?
Bill: Throw some new copy protection in there, that will piss off NetWork Admins.
Programmer: Gotcha!
There is more to this story..
Bill: Come back here.
Programmer: yes master, Sorry master. What else can i do.
Bill: Make sure u add more bugs. We need more bugs so we can fix them on the next release.
Programmer: Sir isn\'t that wrong.
Bill: no it\'s being a smart business man.
Programmer: ohh...
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Discussion among the developers of Windows XP
Bill: Apple has a new OS coming out. We need a new one also.
Some Programmer: But, Master Bill. We just released Windows ME and the public isn\'t happy with us. Shouldn\'t we wait?
Bill: No! It needs out soon. It also needs big buttons.
Programmer: Big Buttons?
Bill: Yes! Apple\'s new "Aqua" interface has big buttons. We need them too!
Programmer: Oh..er..Okay. Big buttons.
Bill: Make everything colorful also. I want big buttons and blue everywhere. With some green for good sakes.
Programmer: Uh..
Bill: Make sure those buttons look 3D also! Apple\'s OS has 3D buttons! We need 3D buttons damnit!
Programmer: Oh..Okay. 3D buttons.
Programmer: Is that all, Master Bill?
Bill: Yes.
Programmer: What about device changes? Updating the kernel? What?
Bill: What? Why would you do that? We are using our most stable one already. Why go add things? Don\'t add a thing damnit! It may start crashing like Win98 and ME did!
Programmer: Good point, Sir!
Bill: One more thing..
Programmer: Yes?
Bill: Throw some new copy protection in there, that will piss off NetWork Admins.
Programmer: Gotcha!
There is more to this story..
Bill: Come back here.
Programmer: yes master, Sorry master. What else can i do.
Bill: Make sure u add more bugs. We need more bugs so we can fix them on the next release.
Programmer: Sir isn\'t that wrong.
Bill: no it\'s being a smart business man.
Programmer: ohh... [/B]
Haha! Thanks for adding more on that story, Nathan.
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Originally posted by Samwise
Originally posted by nO-One
And to me the worst part about XP is that you have to be a subscriber (or something like that) to it.(no more free Windows for me :().And the same thing with OfficeXP.
You can\'t just go out and buy the OS (or borrow the CD from a friend ;)) you have to register at MS.
Are you sure about this?? I haven\'t heard that before. That would suck (for those who likes to pirate Windows I mean, not me personally of course :D). So how is it supposed to work? [/B]
you also have to buy a copy of winxp for every computer in your network. i\'m pretty sure i found this to be fact.
i\'ve also heard that simple upgrades such as ram etc. require contacting m$ for probaly yet another upgrade.