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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Ryu on February 13, 2001, 09:29:44 PM
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Well, Ginko inspired this topic from a post he made in one of the other threads (and I mean other in the KINDEST way possible) :rolleyes: Anyways, given all the information that we have now, who thinks they have the most accurate predictions for E3? We should make a contest out of this and revive it during E3. That would be sweet. Anyways, onward with my predictions.
Sony: Steals the show simply put. BBA and HDD are announced with a price affordable enough for anyone (I\'m guessing around 100-150 dollars for the package) along with a proposed price drop to take effect in November from 199-249.
The new title by the crash team is graphically impressive, but sounds totally uninteresting. Outlook seems very iffy from both casual and hardcore gamers.
989 continues to flop while EA displays Madden2k2 continuing its rein as football champ on the PS2. SSX looks to be more of the same, but continues to be a title of high quality.
More first party titles are revealed from Sony and the graphics STUN the crowd. Syphon Filter 3 is shown and it looks to be on par with MGS2.
Konami showcases a second lengthy MGS2 trailer revealing at least 1 more new character, but holding back lots of information with lots of re-edited footage from last years E3 along with more gameplay footage.
Sega shows off a new title on the PS2 no one EVER expected and wows the crowds.
I\'ll post my Nintendo thoughts tomorrow. I don\'t want my post to be lengthy seeing as most people have a tendency to skip over them when they are, despite its high amount of quality. ;)
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well Your price of the HDD / Ethernet adapter is far from affordable so I\'ll assume you we\'re being Sarcastic. If its that much I won\'t be rushing out to get one and neither will the majority of PS2 owners, it needs to be next to nothing to succeed.
I have a tremndous amount of High hopes for Naughty Dogs game, and I believe Naughty Dog is one of the most underrated Developers out there. There game will appeal in all aspects. I\'m 100% confident it will,
I would love to hear Sony announce Planetside and Star Wars Galaxies are in development for the PS2
As for other announcements I don\'t know but I\'m looking forward to TGS next month 1st
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I know I put it in an odd place but I was inspired right then so I wrote it. I want to elaborate more on what I wrote though.
Sony- Has a great showing. Developers announce that they are getting use to the PS2 and it shows 10 fold. Sony stated before that they would like a stronger in house team. I believe one will show up at E3 and announce a very bold project. 989 studios announces another game, no one cares. Sega announces more support for the system, and shows games in video only. Everyone claps.
Naughty Dogs\' game is met with mixed reviews. A new Chrono game is announced by Square, along with another Secret of Mana. EA makes more lude comments about Sega, Sega announces the 2K series for all platforms, EA pisses themselves. A price drop is announced in light of GC and Xbox. Everyone claps again.
In all, Sony\'s future looks bright.
Sega- Drops all kinds of bombs and impresses the public yet again. Sadly though, it won\'t help the DC from its\' demise. But it will keep DC owners VERY HAPPY for the next year. NiGHTS 2 and Panzer Dragoon Saga Eternal are announced and shown in 5 second video clips. The crowd demands more!!
DC exclusives are announced and still breath life into the system. Sega is still seen as a great showman and top developer.
Sega announces titles for all systems, Everyone smiles:).
Nintendo- well, I don\'t know jack about the gamecube. I know it will have another Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Killer Instinct on it. It will also have all games made by Rare. This is enough to start the hype and goodness that will be Gamecube. Developers are announced that no one had any idea about, it looks like Nintendo have a strong foot hold this time round.
Gameboy Advanced shows huge support. More developers announce more games. Everyone will be looking for Final Fantasy Advanced, Nintendo says your **** out of luck.
Microsoft- ah yes, PS2\'s main enemy. Well, IMO, the xbox will rock and be met with the same enthusiasm as the PS was years ago. All developers are revealed, huge suprises, the hype hits a fever pitch. The price is announced and is met with disgusted faces, Sorry Billy, you can\'t win them all.
Anyway, that\'s my prediction.
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A new Chrono game is announced by Square, along with another Secret of Mana
Ooh My God if that happened i think i would wet my self.
I am hoping for a US version of the Secret of Mana 2 - but if the made a new Secret of Mana it would be too modern and the result would be a bad game.
Yea i hope there are alot of suprises at E3 but i am not gonna predict them all.
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E3...........grrr dont think ill be able to go to it cuz of finals, but who knows we\'ll see...and yes Sony will most likely steal teh show........nintendo.....HAHHAAHAHHAHAH........nintendo.......hHAHAHAHAHAHHAH =D
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nintendo- wins E3 with jaw dropping graphics,unbeliveable sound, and mariocube is so different from the other mario\'s people will call it a revolution....i hope.
sony-comes in a close second, shuts the graphics whore\'s up once and for all with games we know nothing about(they use the vector units..thank god thank god)....they announce a price drop to 250$ starting fall2001....japan based third party\'s support sony 110% like expected.
sega-the dead-cast is dead...nuff said.
xbox-will be the dissapointment of the show when it\'s graphics do not look better than PS2 and GCN....nothing but PS2 ports and or ripp-offs and nothing but PC ports are shown with some weak and sorry first party games....point is: the xflop will live up to it\'s name.
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I hope Square announces a New RPG outside of there Franchises
Time for something New of course Vagrant Story 2 would peak my interest
Still you can expect something at TGS next month
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how is 100 bucks for a 10 gig HDD and a BBA too much money? I suppose it could be lowered to 50 dollars... but the sega BBA is 50 all itself. I dunno, it\'s just a prediction.
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-Sony\'s Showing-
Sony annouce a price drop for the PS2 to $219.99 starting sometime in Sept
Sony annouce a 15 gig HDD/BBA/56k modem,keyboard,mouse w/ pad package to be free when sign up with Sony\'s network.
Sony offically unveil Omega Boost2,Ape Escape2,Legend of Dragoon2,Naughty Dog\'s game and Verants massive online PS2 game.
-Nintendo\'s Showing-
Nintendo annouce GC price at $199.99 and will launch in mid October.
MarioCube is unveiled and take game of the show .
Nintendo annouced huge secret project with Sega.
Nintendo annouced new relations with Square
-Microsoft Showing-
M$ annouce Xbox price at $299.95 and will launch in late Sept
M$ will annouced there own online network that will launch shortly after the console launch
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Yeah 150 for hdd and internet is too much!!! I don\'t know what price it should so all users can have it. I wish around 24.95 but that is wishful thinking:p
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if its gonna be 100-150 dollars they better not make games that you need the HHD to play
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My E3 prediction is that I will be there playing all the new games and systems. Oh yeah, I will be checking out the booth babes too. Maybe go to a few parties. It\'s going to be rough. :)
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Originally posted by ddaryl
I would love to hear Sony announce Planetside and Star Wars Galaxies are in development for the PS2
What is Star Wars Galaxies? I have never heard of that one.
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Originally posted by merkin
Originally posted by ddaryl
I would love to hear Sony announce Planetside and Star Wars Galaxies are in development for the PS2
What is Star Wars Galaxies? I have never heard of that one. [/B]
I believe it\'s a full online Star Wars PS2 game. I don\'t think there are many details about it at this point though. :)
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i hope see new videos of FFX, if Square tried launch the game in march... can be we see any video... jejej FF´s footage will be the best in the show, sure.
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Well,I\'m so curious about Jason Rubin\'s New Creature and I like to see:
- Namco- Tekken4,The New Soul Calibur and some informations on Axis!
- Konami- A playable Demo of Silent Hill 2!
- Capcom- Informations,screens and movies of RE4 and Maximo!
- Polyphony- New informations on GT4:D
- Square- FFX,FFXI,FFXII and The Bouncer2:D
- Insomniacs- The New Creature of this so talented developer!
- Core Design- The Next Generation Lara!
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I wannnnnnnna go to E3 . :(
I predict Sony annoucning abit more information on the HD/broadband adapter. Not much else.
Sega will announce some games for other systems.
XBOX and GC will be playable with some launch details.
Boot Babes will dominate it all...I predict that they will all be uh...(thinks of proper word)..."hot"..yeah, thats the word....
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I think that Sony and Nintendo will do a great show, x-box lacks games that impresses the people. 2:nd gen games on PS2 easially neutralizes the X-box first gen games.
Nintendo shows some new Pokemon, more info on Zelda, "the big secret", Metroid. Very nice.
Sony harddrive, mouse, keyboard, VGA adaptors, online games to come. New First party developers.
MS shows off more techdemos and a lot of talk.
PS2 and GBA dominates games from 3:pary dev.
namco shows a glimpse of teekken 4 and other freat games
Square: FFX, XI, XII and xenogears II
Capcom: RE 4
A.s.o
it will be the greatest show of all time, and I have broadband too se it.
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PS2
Naughty Dogs PS2 project trailer but not playable form.The crowd are amazed by the graphics.
Namco is showing their PS2 version of SC and release info on TEKKEN4.Propably also a port of Namco-Capcom\'s RE arcade game supporting the new GunGon.Also playable form of AC4 and Klonoa.Info on Namco\'s console could be revealed
Polyphony is showing the GT3 new weather effects with the night time stages.An Omega Boost2 game could be shown
Konami is having playable forms of MGS2 and many ither key titles.Gets a lot of attention at E3.
Square is showing footage of the stunning looking FF10 and info on Vagrant Story2.A Front Mission could be in the works.Also new sequels of past great titles.
Sega\'s VF4 footage and probaply House of the Dead 3.Crazy Taxi is shown as well as ferrari 355.Some other games could be in the works that will gain a lot of attention
A ShenMue might be in their plans.
XBOX
Munch looks great as well as Melisa.Munch loses attention over Melisa\'s.
Munch\'s graphics doesnt help a lot.
New XBOX announcements and games but not exciting enough.
GC
This console rocks.Featuring great graphics and new versions of Zelda Mario and most of all Metroid.New games are announced and the console becomes very promising.
GC becomes one of the biggest highlights at E3.
By Irvin
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Not a prediction, but true!!!:):)
Just found out that Namco will have a Playable Ace Combat 4 there:):):)
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I accidentally predicted that:)Oh my.Who the hell am I?
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E3 will be a day to remember for sure. Everyone will strut their stuff,there will be some new hopes,and some new tragedies. Some games will rise to their full potential,and some will reek of disapointmemtness.:D
My predictions:
Naughty Dogg shows of their new game which will probably be a platform game. It will have great graphics,and great graphics. Then Naughty Dog\'s president(the idiot Jason) runs his mouth about it.He\'ll say," This is the Mario killer right here". This will be Sony\'s big secret game at E3.
Then Nintendo shows off a playable form of the next-generation Mario and forces Jason to cry and run home. :lauging:
Sony will have a pretty tough time at this years E3 in my opinion. There up against two new consoles that we know nothing about,they better pull out something out of their hats then or else all eyes will be focused elsewhere.
Sony will do ok though. MGS2 will be there. And Square will show off FFX and probably a playable demo too.
Microsoft will do pretty good with the Xbox. They probably have some big secret and the\'ll announce some good looking games. I think Halo will be there along with Munch and Malice.
I think Nintendo will undoubtfully steal the show. Nobody knows what\'s going on with it so everyone should be quite surprised when they see it\'s true potential. Sega will show something for it,and Square could be a possibily.
But the playable games will be Nintendo\'s biggest gun at E3. Mario will destroy Malice in the game play department.
And I guarantee you the\'ll be a Perfect Dark 2 demo there as well. This game will shock everyone.
Metroid will also be there in a big way. Silicon KNights will show be there with Too Human and Eternal Darkness.
Factor five will show off Rogue Squadron2 and I think Thornado might make an impact as well.
After all that,Nintendo will deliver a Zelda trailor too top it all off with a bang.
I can\'t wait till E3. Too bad it\'s three months away.
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I cannt fcking wait for E3.
Book my flight to Los Angelous tomorrow. Book my E3 ticket in 3 weeks :)
:)
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my predictions of E3 ?
my predictions of E3 is when i get there..
i might be going there for FREE..FULL EXPENSE paid trip..airfare, hotel, accomodations, extra spending fee is all FREE..courtesy of Nintendo..but there is a catch..my store [EB] has to sell the most pre-orders of Conkers Bad Fur Day within our region..so far i think we are winning..
if we dont win, then i guess imma have to kiss my managers arse so i can go..he goes EVERY year courtesy of home office..that lucky b@$t@rd..
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But lets just sayyy....A nuclear Bomb is set to be detonated.
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My predictions for Nintendo:
1. Nintendo will have a showing that is remarkable, yet somewhat weaker then what we all expected. The generation 2 PS2 games and the first NGC games are pretty much graphically similar, yet most franchise titles will be more sought after thanks to popularity.
2. The GBA will have a HUGE showing and will have LOTS of games. Nintendo focuses on them primarily more then the NGC, oddly enough.
3. Metroid will be shown in yet another video demo. No real in-game demo will be shown, but jaws will still drop because... well... it\'s metroid.
4. Another Link demo will show off the NGC\'s power, but the game won\'t be set for release for quite some time.
5. Nintendo and Sega will announce a new Sonic game for the NGC at a later date (can\'t let it release against Mario now can we?)
6. Finally, Nintendo will come in second under Sony. Sure, it\'ll have a great showing, but there\'s something about consoles out now, vs consoles that are mainly in video form and SOON to be released, not being able to pull off \'console-of-the-show\' at E3.
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Sony: Sony steals the show, revealing games that truly show off the PS2 power. Developers announce that they have got a better hold of the system. Sega shows off their first line of PS2 games. Crowds applauds. Konami show another MGS2 trailer and the audience demands more. Capcom has a small booth for RE4, and announces yet another SF game.
Sega: Sega displays their final line of DC games which are top notch, but not enough to save the DC after Sega\'s abandonment on the system.
Nintendo: Big N shows off the GameCube and a few new games for it. Pokemon, Mario, Zelda, are a given. Big N shows off some trailers, crowd(comprised mostly of kids under the age of 8) cheers madly. A few new GBA titles are revealed, and are met with appause.
Microsoft: Microsoft shows off a few new developers. Shows off a bunch of new games which are only slighty better than PS2 quality. Billy boy himself is there, and announces the price of the XBox. People are somewhat(:rolleyes: )turned off.
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I think this E3 is going to be a very tight one.
First, you have sony with many great games going on show.
They are defiantly going to be real close to the top it not on top.
Next you have Nintendo, with thier first system release in 5 years, and this time it seems they are doing almost everything right(switching storage medium, courting many third party developers...etc.),except for the design which is butt ugly.
Then you have sega.Ah sega.I have a feeling that though they are stopping production on the Dreamcast, they are going to have a great showing.
I mean, imagine Sega with tons of game for 4 different consoles. I think they are going to rock the house.
Finally we have the XBox.Many people might not agree with me here on this one.But, I think they might get close to taking the show.I mean, they are an enigma, this being there first console and all, and people are attracted to enigmas, so they have that going.Next, the XBox has great graphics and since its going to be E3, they are going to be even better than what they should because they will fix them up,just as everyone else wil.
So,my E3 predictions.....I dont know whos going to win.
To many variables to choose from.
Ill say this though,Itll be interesting.
As I think Ddaryl keeps saying, its a great age to be a gamer.
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Yes yes, thats very true. As long as their is competition, there will always be great games. In the end it doesn\'t matter who wins this console war, or any other. Because in the end, no matter who wins, we win.
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I really liked this topic. I think it deserves more credit than it\'s receiving.
2. The GBA will have a HUGE showing and will have LOTS of games. Nintendo focuses on them primarily more then the NGC, oddly enough.
This not 100% false. Nintendo is focusing on NGC more than NGC,Miyamoto even said it himself.His exact words were:" 70% of our teams are focused on NGC while 30% are focused on GBA".
Also,you don\'t see Retro Studios,Rare,Left Field Studios, or Silicon Knights working on any GBA games. There all 100% focused on GameCube.
3. Metroid will be shown in yet another video demo. No real in-game demo will be shown, but jaws will still drop because... well... it\'s metroid
Nah...this game will probably come out for launch so I suspect the\'ll be a playable demo for it(just my opinion).
4. Another Link demo will show off the NGC\'s power, but the game won\'t be set for release for quite some time.
Yeah I agree. I think this will come out Christmas 2002. Remember,old fart Yamauchi said that this will be their time to shine.
5. Nintendo and Sega will announce a new Sonic game for the NGC at a later date (can\'t let it release against Mario now can we?)
Replace Sonic with RPG. You should find this news interesting.
http://nintendonation.efront.com/news/february2001/0482.shtml
crowd(comprised mostly of kids under the age of 8) cheers madly.
What the ****? Little kids arn\'t allowed in there,it\'s only for the media.
6. Finally, Nintendo will come in second under Sony. Sure, it\'ll have a great showing, but there\'s something about consoles out now, vs consoles that are mainly in video form and SOON to be released, not being able to pull off \'console-of-the-show\' at E3.
Well,I really don\'t see how Sony can win this year\'s E3. In 1999,DC stole the show.In 2000,it was PS2\'s turn.
There is just something about new systems that gathers the media\'s attention. Sony will have to show off a lot of new surprises to steal win this show because Nintendo and Microsoft sure have a lot of them planned.
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Ah you know I\'m only messin with ya Jumper. ;)
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I do have a distinct feeling that either Nintendo or Microsoft are going to take it.
Its really hard to compete with just software against hardware and software.
If sony does take the show, then all PS2 fans will be in for a real treat in the following year.
Now that I think about it, I WANT sony to take the show.
That means tremendous amount of cool games for me.
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yup. hehe
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Jumpman
he\'s only basing it off from comments from the president of nintendo himself..
I totally agree with Ryu
Sony will own E3
Nintendo will show some impressive stuff
MS... well if they annouce the price everybody will ignore them.. if they don\'t they won\'t show much anyway. After all the dev kits were JUST finished...
Today I noticed people complaining that the ps2 hardrive/ethernet would be 100 to 150... well, then be prepared to pay 400+ for the x-box
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uh huh.
BTW I can\'t wait for internet play. You know what? We should start a PlayStation Online or Sony.net or whatever the hell they\'re gonna call it clan.
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Sony will own E3
Sony will not own E3,no console will. One will come out as the most impressive but no one will completely owm it. Cmon,two new consoles,Sony has no chance in hell of owning E3. But lets hear why you think this way Chrono...tell me why you think Sony will come out on top.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Sony will own E3
Sony will not own E3,no console will. One will come out as the most impressive but no one will completely owm it. Cmon,two new consoles,Sony has no chance in hell of owning E3. But lets hear why you think this way Chrono...tell me why you think Sony will come out on top.
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I just know...
I\'ll be at e3 this year,
and when I get back i\'ll say I told you so..
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Jump, I wouldn\'t be so sure. I mean, after last year\'s E3, I\'m completley prepared for anything. I think Sony\'s developers weren\'t ready for last year but should be ready to rock this year.
Who had the new console? Sony
Who came out and made E3 their *****? Sega. There is no denying Sega "won" last year at E3. It was very unexpected, but it happened. They had tons of games, lots of announcements, and the best presentation.
But remember, it\'s just a show. Doesn\'t mean jack about what\'s going to happen outside of the show, otherwise Sega would still be behind the DC all the way.
I still think it\'s going to be a tie between Gamecube and PS2 though.
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I just know...
GOOD ANSWER! :rolleyes:
I\'ll be at e3 this year,
and when I get back i\'ll say I told you so..
Yeah right. I\'ll take someone else\'s opinion though...
Who came out and made E3 their *****? Sega. There is no denying Sega "won" last year at E3. It was very unexpected, but it happened. They had tons of games, lots of announcements, and the best presentation
Thanks for clearing that up. I knew Sega totally dominated one year but I wasn\'t too sure.
But still,being a new console that we know nothing about gives it a huge advantage.
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hehehe, jumpan
I WILL be at e3..
I\'m the programmer of gamesnext,
I get a ticket, i\'m a member of the press of a major website.
I\'ll be sure to send you pictures :P
Check gamesnext.com for live updates when e3 comes along, thanks to my programming it should update very quickly and easily.. I just don\'t wanna think of moving my Movie Editing (yes, I know adobe premire) Computer to LA...
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Originally posted by Chrono
hehehe, jumpan
I WILL be at e3..
I\'m the programmer of gamesnext,
I get a ticket, i\'m a member of the press of a major website.
I\'ll be sure to send you pictures :P
Check gamesnext.com for live updates when e3 comes along, thanks to my programming it should update very quickly and easily.. I just don\'t wanna think of moving my Movie Editing (yes, I know adobe premire) Computer to LA...
I never said you wern\'t going to E3 or implied it for that matter.
I wish I could say more but I can\'t.
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Nintendo will not be quiet by any means.
Zelda will draw crowds,
Mario will draw crowds,
Perfect Dark 2,
Any Rare game will get press like it\'s the best thing since the wheel.
Then there will also be all those games that are being developed by Nintendo\'s internal teams( I think there are about 5-7 teams! Each having multiple projects going.)
We haven\'t even heard about third party games yet.
Then they also have the GBA, Nintendo will have a good chunk of the show.
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Originally posted by Ryu
My predictions for Nintendo:
1. Nintendo will have a showing that is remarkable, yet somewhat weaker then what we all expected. The generation 2 PS2 games and the first NGC games are pretty much graphically similar, yet most franchise titles will be more sought after thanks to popularity.
2. The GBA will have a HUGE showing and will have LOTS of games. Nintendo focuses on them primarily more then the NGC, oddly enough.
3. Metroid will be shown in yet another video demo. No real in-game demo will be shown, but jaws will still drop because... well... it\'s metroid.
4. Another Link demo will show off the NGC\'s power, but the game won\'t be set for release for quite some time.
5. Nintendo and Sega will announce a new Sonic game for the NGC at a later date (can\'t let it release against Mario now can we?)
6. Finally, Nintendo will come in second under Sony. Sure, it\'ll have a great showing, but there\'s something about consoles out now, vs consoles that are mainly in video form and SOON to be released, not being able to pull off \'console-of-the-show\' at E3.
LOL!! Second to Sony?!
There is no question Nintendo will destroy this year\'s E3.
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Don\'t be an a$$ on your 4th post.
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I think the reason Sony didn\'t rule E3 last year is because it unloaded all it\'s suprises at its\' own show a few months before. Otherwise all the news would have been more sought after.
And I think that show was in February if I\'m not mistaken.
I do see how Gamecube will be the most looked for, it\'s the biggest mystery. I mean, X-box gets updates all the time so everyone is pretty caught up on it. Gamecube on the other hand, I don\'t even remember the last update. Wasn\'t it back in Nov. or Dec.?
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I think Nintendo is working it like a dam.
You know, if you let out a constant flow and then the dam bursts it wont be as bad because there wont be as much water on the other side.
But if you put a small hole in it so that just some water drops out, whent he dam does explode it will take everyone by surprise and there will be lots of it.
My analogy of the day.
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LOL. It seems no one has commented on the joint RPG that Nintendo and Sega are working on. Hell, Charles Bellfield just confirmed it, guys. Here\'s the link: http://www.gameweek.com/features/Charles_Bellfield/index3.shtml
And for those of u who r lazy, i\'ll paste the specific part:
GW: Theoretically, Sega could be a difference maker in the upcoming console wars, depending on what franchises are delivered to each particular platform. Any thoughts?
CB: Let me turn the tables a bit. What do you know about GameCube?
GW: You probably know a lot more than we do; Nintendo is the most quiet company we\'ve ever dealt with. It\'s scary.
CB: Four words: don\'t write off Nintendo. A lot of companies have, but Nintendo\'s got a five billion dollar war chest and a lot of great, original franchises.
GW: Yes, they have the one key ingredient that Sega has: content. They really are self-sufficient.
CB: Agreed.
GW: Charles, can you confirm or deny the existence of this so-called "top-secret RPG" being worked on by Sega and Nintendo?
CB: (long pause) I\'m trying to recall… Tetsu Kayama talked about a number of things last week and I would normally refer back to what he said, but... Let\'s put it this way: whatever he said, the answer is "yes."
GW: You know, Peter Main had the same suspicious grin when I asked him this question two and a half months ago…
CB: Did he really? Yes. (another long pause) We\'ve got a great content line ahead. (smiles)
Heh, looks like Sega sure loves the Gamecube. And you can be sure that this RPG will be huge news at E3! :)
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Heh, looks like Sega sure loves the Gamecube. And you can be sure that this RPG will be huge news at E3!
Yeah. Notice that he brought GameCube up from out of nowhere. He wasn\'t even asked to comment on it. I always believed that Sega would support Nintendo the most and I this article just proves it.
Heh. He\'s not very fond of the Xbox...
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I bet it\'s Farnation. :)!!!!!
OR WAIT!!!! What if they are making Skies of Arcadia 2 for GC also. OMG!!!!
Sega is getting some from everybody. What a whore;)
Namco, Square, Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony. Who\'s next on their list? Capcom?
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I bet you already know who I am going to say who will own the show. :) Thats right... Nintendo! hehe... Sony will show games and their HD/Eth peripheral, Microsoft will show games and the Xbox, Nintendo will be showing the NGC and... games running on it for the very first time. Remember, MS is showing their first-party software at gamestock and the PS2 will have been out for quite some time. All eyes will be on Nintendo as they will be the big "?" of the show.
Maybe the GCN games will be last-luster or PS2/Xbox will reveal games so astounding that nothing can compete but Nintendo seems like the likely E3 "winner" for now.
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My predictions for Microsoft:
1. The consoles price is revealed, to no surprise, it\'s very high. Reporters, as well as the gamers on the net, are pretty pissed off. Most talk is of "wow, the games look great, but for *insert cost here*?! That\'s crazy."
2. The games look good, but nothing past PS2. Some titles show that the console can hold it\'s own as far as ports go, but again, the price detracts from all.
3. Sega announces LIMITED support to the console, but it\'s plenty enough for X-box fanboys to gloat about. The games in development are mostly those going to other consoles.
4. MGSX is revealed to be a port (as loosely a definition as that can be considering their architecture) but is not shown at E3 and wont be shown for quite sometime. Kinda like the PC port of MGS (which took 2 years to make, but I think it wont be as long as that, I am predicting late 2002).
That\'s about it for my X-box predicitions. Not much is known about it to garner enough attention to it. Most of the hype revolves around tech specs so making predictions beyond what I have already done is kinda though.
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LOL!! Second to Sony?!
There is no question Nintendo will destroy this year\'s E3.
You mean Nintendo will walk in and wind up a giant robot of yamauchi thats utters the phrase over and over "Krush-Kill-Destroy" until it stopms on the competition? If not, then please, shut up.
Replace Sonic with RPG. You should find this news interesting.
http://nintendonation.efront.com/news/february2001/0482.shtml
I still don\'t think that\'s the end of it. I know Sonic\'s perfect platform is the Gamecube and he would fit in PERFECT with the cast of a new Smash Brothers title along with Knucles and Miles (Tails for those who are lame).
crowd(comprised mostly of kids under the age of 8) cheers madly.
No one under 18 is allowed in E3 (that goes for everyone, not just you)
Well,I really don\'t see how Sony can win this year\'s E3. In 1999,DC stole the show.In 2000,it was PS2\'s turn.
But the PS2 was in its infancy in Japan. By the time the DC showed last year at E3, it was a year old in japan, and over 8 montsh old in the US. Now we got a system that has been studied and restudied to get some great games. Their show should be nothing less of stunning.
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I dont know.
As Jumpman said, Unknowns always draw a crowd.
I can see Nintendo beating out Microsoft easily, because MS does nothing but hype the XBOX, so when it comes to E3 either MS is going to live up to the hype or fall short.
Even if they live up to the hype, its just what people were expectin, so its no big deal.
Whereas Nintendo hasnt really been hyping so as long as they dont bomb, they will have a real good showing.
The only way sony can win is by massive amounts of Great games with a showing of the HDD drive at a low price.
Thats my prediction.
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Prediction:
Nintendo will show their stunning first party games and a few third party games that are in development. They will look good at the show... The graphics and playability will be astounding.
Sony will be the disapointment at the show as they were last year. There will be a many new titles to look at but not a lot of quality titles. MGS2 will of course be playable and will be the biggest thing Sony has at the show besides the SEGA games. The Hard drive / ethernet will be anounced at E3.
Microsoft will anounce the price of the xbox and many people will be blown away. Expecting a 400 dollar price tag they end up with a price tag of the dreamcast at launch. Microsoft will fight it out with Nintendo as the best of the show. Microsoft\'s titles will be very polished and graphics and playability will be astounding. There will not be much of a difference between the graphics of the xbox and Nintendo\'s cube at this point.
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"Microsoft will anounce the price of the xbox and many people will be blown away. Expecting a 400 dollar price tag they end up with a price tag of the dreamcast at launch. Microsoft will fight it out with Nintendo as the best of the show. Microsoft\'s titles will be very polished and graphics and playability will be astounding. There will not be much of a difference between the graphics of the xbox and Nintendo\'s cube at this point."
:Laughing:
HAHAHAHAHA
Boy will you be in for a reality check... HAHAHA
I\'ll be laughing in your face soo hard
I still can\'t belive people think the x-box will be cheap cause bill gates has money... thats funny, it don\'t work that way if you know buisness, you are all in for a big surprise.
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Originally posted by Chrono
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HAHAHAHAHA
Boy will you be in for a reality check... HAHAHA
I\'ll be laughing in your face soo hard
I still can\'t belive people think the x-box will be cheap cause bill gates has money... thats funny, it don\'t work that way if you know buisness, you are all in for a big surprise.
Do you have to be such a jerk about everything? So what, it\'s wishful thinking and it\'s his prediction. Leave it alone.
You could have just simply stated the facts like this:
I don\'t think it will be anywhere near 200$. A while back Bill Gates was asked about the price of the X-box compared to PS2. He just ended up saying that, "well, your going to get more in the xbox." I\'m pretty sure that means it\'s going to be a little more expensive than the PS2 price tag.
The price I\'m wondering about is Gamecube?! I bet it launches at 200$, but it would blow people away if it launched any lower.
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Bill Gates will do a SHAMEFUL PR stunt with a WWF star ..... oh to late he already done that :laughing: :nut:.
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Nintendo and Microsoft will garner more attention at E3 simply because they are going to show what they can do. We already know what PS2 can do.
Who has a better showing overall?? I don\'t think you can make that kind of distinction yet.....I mean you have the PS2 which has really only been out a year, Nintendo, and Microsoft which are totally new! That new factor kinda throws everything off....for someone to win they are going to have to set people on fire.
Next year the playing field is level and it will all be about the games and what the developers can squeeze out of the hardware.
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Who will own this year\'s E3?
I\'ll explain this in lengthy terms. Everybody seems to think that because there are not enough GC news to go around, that because developers do not speak about GC development, that because there aren\'t more than 10 screenshots of GC games on the internet, in short- that because we don\'t hear about GC, it\'s already delegated to #3 position in these next-generation wars. If you had practical knowledge you\'d know EXACTLY what they\'re doing. It\'s like the analogy of the dam somebody used earlier in this topic.
It\'s VERY likely(98% I\'d say) that EVERY developer is already neck deep in GC development, but NOBODY knows about it because the developers are under threat of death to keep their mouths shut. They can\'t release ANYTHING- it\'s ALL being stored up for..........E3.
E3 2001: Nintendo receives power from the gods and calls down fire, hail, and dead fish onto the competition, literally devastating them. Face it people, the GC is radically different than any machine in existence- you can\'t and don\'t and won\'t understand it (all that blah blah about how, from the creating a game standpoint) without seeing it in motion. I, and I won\'t give you reasons, have known for a while the damn thing is capable of generating better than CG graphics in REAL-TIME. Hell, over a year ago, there were already news that Acclaim\'s Teeside Studios had done a Turok demo and had gotten CG graphics playable in real-time.
6-12 million in real-time? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. More like 40+, WITH effects (don\'t bite my head off- it\'s what developers are saying. I\'m not going to get into this argument- we Nintendoers will let E3 do the talikin\'!!!!
But I\'ll say this- HOW CAN YOU SAY GC (EVEN XBOX) WILL NOT HAVE BETTER GRAPHICS THAN PS2? It\'s a-b-s-u-r-d:
We all know that the PS2 can not reach it\'s graphical limitations (20 million.....rrriiiiggghhhtt) without it having 4X as much VRAM as it does.
24MB of 1T-SRAM (dream on Xbox), S3 texture compression (you have it too, Xbox?), HW lighting X8 (X4 for you, Mr. Xbox/PC), multi-texture mapping (8 simultaneous textures at once= 6 for Mr. PC....err, Xbox).....I want E3 NOW!!!
Sony will dissappoint at the show. It\'ll have games that look as good as GT3, MGS2, but NOTHING a step up from those. Naughty Dog will show their secret title, only to have Nintendo crap all over it with the showing of CG real-time Metroid, Wave Race, Too Human, Luigi\'s Mansion, Mario, Donkey Kong, etc.
I\'ll get back to you after E3. That\'s a promise.
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Except for that whole Sony rant at the end there, I fully agree with you. Nintendo will rock this year.
I wouldn\'t underestimate Sony though. They may get their **** together this year and impress. I mean, it\'s not like MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Tekken 4, Virtua Fighter 4, etc will be ignored.
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I predict that Bill Gates will make out with The Rock.
After they have finished their business (which shouldn\'t take too long) Big Bill will announce the Xbox price - it\'ll cost $600. And you\'ll have to subscribe for MSN @ $50 bucks per month.
Nintendo will announce that their Pokémon franchise is the only thing ever coming for GameCube. But at least there will be over 100 different colors.
Sony announces that the harddrive/Ethernet addon will cost $300 and that you\'ll have to sign up for their network service - which will be $45/month (at least it\'s a whole $5 cheaper than the Xbox network service).
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I think PS2 and GC will be the main attraction.
Kituka your predictions are near to being a fact.But we will wait and see.
But just thinking...All that great technology which according to you(Kituka) is better than XBOX is fitted in the smallest console EVER...MAN WE ARE IN A BIG SURPRISE.I think Nintendo wont announce GC\'s price because its too early to tell.As time passes technology becomes cheaper.And now I think GC\'s technology is very expensive.
So I predict no GC price announcement.
Lets wait and see.
By Irvin
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Nintendo:
Will own the show, shows awesome 1st/second party games(Eternal Darkness, Wave Race, After Dark, Incredible new Mario game, Metroid Zelda), also has special editions of the best PS2 games(MGS2, SSX, Madden, etc). Blows away the the competition. Best E3 ever.
Sony:
Shows nothing new. The big Naughty Dog game gets blown away by the big N. The big thing will be MGS2 but overall it will disapoint.
XBox:
Lots of crapy nice looking games, to many ports.
Sega: Good show but nothing great, starts to show of some of their muliplatform games. Announces mayor support for GAMECUBE;)
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All off a sudden the GC is predicted to rule...?Hmm
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Nintendo: crowd is wowed by spectacular cut scenes of actual real-time gameplay. As official announcement of 2002 US release date finally sinks in there is much wailing and gnashing of tooths. Eventually N lovers are pacified as screen depicts close up of Zelda exposing a perfectly beautiful CG boob to suckle a pre-adolescent version of Link. Later the buzz was about the hair sticking out of Zelda\'s areola, "but Man!... it looked sooo real!"
MS: gigantic holographic carrot dangling from a stick is suspended over auditorium, boasted to be only 50% of what Xbox will be capable of once the fantastic Navida2A-spec3.5 is finished and in production. An amazing price of $150 was confirmed, unfortunately the required 3D glasses will retail for well over $300.
Sony: Jason Rubens becomes visibly upset when he learns very few of those seated and ready to be shown clips of NaughtyDogs latest creation are wearing the Depends that were handed out before the showing. Later vindicated by the stench coming from the long lines outside the busy bathrooms afterwards, Jason was heard gleefully yelling "That\'s not shepherds pie in your knickers!"
Okay, that last bit was over the top, I know. Just wanted to somehow counter Jumpboy\'s absurd insult of Jason Rubens being an idiot. I\'ve found the Crash series through CTR to be imaginative, visually impressive and extremely FUN, seeming to push the PSX capabilities to its max. As far as I\'m concerned any hate out there for Crash comes out either ignorance or jealousy for making that lil mushroom popping dago on 64 look bad, probably some of each. Unoriginal, theft? Bah! Crash is still some cool fun and I\'ll be looking forward to a different but much better looking platform character and its antics in a few months. Jumpboy and his ilk can keep *****in about crash and waiting on da Cube for the next year or so. Like it matters
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Originally posted by Unicron!
All off a sudden the GC is predicted to rule...?Hmm
Call it a burst of intelligent people who replied to this topic...;)
Microsoft will anounce the price of the xbox and many people will be blown away. Expecting a 400 dollar price tag they end up with a price tag of the dreamcast at launch. Microsoft will fight it out with Nintendo as the best of the show. Microsoft\'s titles will be very polished and graphics and playability will be astounding. There will not be much of a difference between the graphics of the xbox and Nintendo\'s cube at this point.
HD.Broadband. Expensive hardware.BIG. I\'ll be surprised if the price was 250,anything over that is reasonable. Scratch that,I\'ll destroy my TV if it was announced to be lower than 250. No good ole Tv...Xbox under 250...I\'m not worried.:)
Naughty Dog will show their secret title, only to have Nintendo crap all over it
I didn\'t say it before but I\'ll say it now: I also think there game will be a diapointment. I hope they don\'t give a playable demo...
think PS2 and GC will be the main attraction.
Kituka your predictions are near to being a fact.But we will wait and see.
But just thinking...All that great technology which according to you(Kituka) is better than XBOX is fitted in the smallest console EVER...MAN WE ARE IN A BIG SURPRISE.I think Nintendo wont announce GC\'s price because its too early to tell.As time passes technology becomes cheaper.And now I think GC\'s technology is very expensive.
So I predict no GC price announcement.
Lets wait and see.
Nintendo won\'t announce the price? Bull****. It comes out in Japan just two months after E3,there is no way in hell Nintendo would do that. GameCube\'s hardware is inexpensive by the way,that\'s why it\'s being called a revolutionary piece of technology. Plus it\'s oftly small...
Okay, that last bit was over the top, I know.
It was? I thought you were going crazy in that part.
Just wanted to somehow counter Jumpboy\'s absurd insult of Jason Rubens being an idiot.
Absurd? Yeah right. Do you want to see how well know sites think about Crash games? Do you want me to post some interviews with that fool? Just say the word and you\'ll hear biased remarks from a confused man.
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Jumpman I didnt know GC is planned to be released 2 months after E3 otherwise I wouldnt have made that speculation.
Well I know its a revolutionary piece of technology and thats one of the reasons I expected it to be expensive.
Also being small means more expenses due to factory\'s design of the chain machines which have to create smaller chips boards etc.The complicated and smaller they become the bigger are the expenses.
I am sure Nintendo knows what is doing.Perhaps they found a low cost production of high-end technology.Like the difference of PS2\'s DVD player from the other DVD players.(Sony found a way of reducing the DVD\'s compnents from 11 to 4.The result was a cheaper but well made DVD-Rom for the PS2.)
By Irvin
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Absurd? Yeah right. Do you want to see how well know sites think about Crash games?
Don\'t need a site to tell me how to think. Enjoyed the games. Read the interviews with Jason already. I know a fool when I see his words.
Pssst. Here\'s a clue, it\'s not Jason.
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Originally posted by Samwise
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I predict that Bill Gates will make out with The Rock.
After they have finished their business (which shouldn\'t take too long) Big Bill will announce the Xbox price - it\'ll cost $600. And you\'ll have to subscribe for MSN @ $50 bucks per month.
Nintendo will announce that their Pokémon franchise is the only thing ever coming for GameCube. But at least there will be over 100 different colors.
Sony announces that the harddrive/Ethernet addon will cost $300 and that you\'ll have to sign up for their network service - which will be $45/month (at least it\'s a whole $5 cheaper than the Xbox network service).
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I predict that Bill Gates will make out with The Rock.
hey i hope you know thats was my prediction "kind of " first , and i copyrighted it ooseven © 2001 :(.
OK Samwise that will be £400 thank you very much :rolleyes:.
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Don\'t need a site to tell me how to think. Enjoyed the games.
I don\'t give a rat\'s ass what you like or don\'t like. I was reffering to the majority. And the majority thinks that Crash games are no good,the sales of the latest versions of them will back me up.
Read the interviews with Jason already. I know a fool when I see his words.
I read them again,this time around I thought it was more fuuny than the last. Here\'s one interview with the man who runs his mouth and make ****ty games.
Here some laughter for you all,presenting,Jason Rubin and IGNPS2. I\'ll only take the good parts.
IGNPS2: What does it mean that you\'re a wholly owned subsidiary?
Jason: That\'s an important word -- wholly owned subsidiary. Unlike Red Zone Interactive, which is part of the internal development team at Sony, we are a separate entity, and so we run just like before. We have a certain air of autonomy in that we are not part of the internal team. We wanted to be just kept as a separate entity. And we\'re all really happy about it. Right now we\'re working on our new PS2 game. We have been working for two years on this game engine. It\'s ramping up into something big, and it\'s the perfect time for us, all 36 of us. Everybody at Naughty Dog is ecstatic, and I think it\'s a pretty rare thing for every member of a team to be ecstatic about the buyout of their company.
Now Jason forgets how many people work at his own company...
IGNPS2: How will day-to-day operations change at Naughty Dog, if at all?
Jason: Nothing will change. It was announced today, but the actual machinations have been in the works for awhile. We finally got our first paychecks. Oh, there is one change: Naughty Dog employees [all 30] can go to the Sony store where as before they couldn\'t. But Sony didn\'t buy us to change us. They bought us to continue a good thing. It was more like the Polyphony arrangement, where the teams just continue creating good games independently.
All 30? Doesn\'t he mean 36? What a gimp.
IGNPS2: Is Factor Five the only other developer in the industry that shoots its mouth off more than you?
Jason: Um, well dammit! I have tried to shoot my mouth off more than anybody else. How did they shoot theirs off more than me? Well, seriously, I respect Factor Five and they are in a very good position with Nintendo and it\'s been my perception that most companies that are close with Nintendo do well. As a console the PS2 is going to do just as well as the PS did, and it\'s going to do better than GameCube.
Can I have your magic ball Jason? :rolleyes:
It\'s still our contention and our goal to create the first second-generation game on the PS2. I wish we could be in a perpetual state of development. But I feel better now that the Xbox has been announced. Before that all we had was hype on XBox, and now when they said it was only going to be three times more powerful, instead of eight times more powerful than the PS2, I feel great about the PS2. The [XBox] DVD player won\'t be shipped in, like they once said. They\'ve changed so many things about the Xbox since it was first announced at GDC that it\'s clear they\'re struggling with it. I think that XBox, beyond all of the other troubles, is just not the system that they promised.
From out of nowhere comes the Xbox...
The XBox announcement totally underwhelmed me; the announcement was significantly underwhelming. It was unbelievably poor.
...more bashing from the fool king.
[quoteThe console is the size of a truck[/quote]
Oh Jason\'s on a role!
and Microsoft\'s machine doesn\'t keep up with Moore\'s Law. The games they showed were running at 1/5 the frame rate they should be. If game developers don\'t have full development kits now or by this summer how can they develop games for launch? Will they only have two games? Will they even make launch this year? I feel that now, after Bill Gates\' announcement, I am absolutely convinced that XBox won\'t be our biggest competition.
Absolutely convinced eh? When did Jason get a time machine to travel to E3 2001?
Now what I have to worry about is GameCube, and whether that is as powerful and as easy to develop for as everybody has said. I have heard, and this is totally unsubstantiated, that it\'s harder to develop for than it was expected.
Yah right *****. Did Sony pay you to say that or did you just bring that out of nowhere? How the **** would he know, that\'s right,he doesn\'t. Jason Rubin is a tool...
IGNPS2: One of our editors spotted you leaving the E3 party in a Ferrari 355. Since the acquisition, will you be able to afford more of those?
Jason: Who needs more than one? My girlfriend sees it differently, she says who needs one. It\'s hard to get into with a skirt, which doesn\'t both me more a bit. (Laughs.) Seriously though, we did very well. I honestly don\'t have any time to do any of that kind of stuff anymore. We have our noses to the grindstone right now.
I don\'t think he should be allowed to drive fast cars...
Now,if you still want to live in fantasy land and think Jason is a genious and Crash is gold then fine with me. But this guy is a fool,his interviews and games prove that too.
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Hey Jumpboy, if you enjoy endlessly swallowing Zelda\'s link (not that there\'s anything wrong with that) tha\'s cool. Just don\'t bash a good developer because of your own prejudice. Yeah, that\'s right, prejudice, a new word for you and your Nintendo biased siblings. You hate a game and its developer so much prejudice has blinded you to what millions of others are happy with. Many of which didn\'t find Mario 64 all that great. You need to try and get past this or you\'ll be missing out on some good fun and continue to appear to most regular folk as full of Donkey Konga. Sup 2 u
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Jumpman Crash was one of the best selling platform games.The majority of the sites and magazines are what give bad scores and bad opinions about the game.
Most PSX owners liked the Crash series.Thats why their were sequels.I for example and many friends played the sequels before reading reviews and when we saw the reviews etc it was like "huh"?!
Although crash is a very nice game sites and magazines must be "hardcore" in reviews.They compare it with Mario Sonic etc while its not trying to be a competitor of those or an innovative game.Although its style of gameplay is unique.
On the other hand people while reading magazines and sites are affected by the reviews.So in their minds a game is what the reviews say.
I am sometimes against reviews because when reading a review and then play a game instead of trying to have some fun with the game we are trying to see how much the reviewers was right.
ShenMue is an example.A great game but many reviews say it was a disapointment.Hell!!it was even held as one of the most disapointing games ever....HUH?!(again)
Absolutely convinced eh? When did Jason get a time machine to travel to E3 2001?
You dont have a time machine neither we do.
Can I have your magic ball Jason?
You dont a have a magic ball Jumbman?No one has.GC could be a winner at E3 but you never know until you see the event.So dont try to sound so sure even if there are 99% chances that you are right.
Lets predict not convince.
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i also predict that there will be very big things form square soft , like FF 11.
Acording to Playsation World they are already testing the online capability as we speak.
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Jump, not to pounce on your testicles or anything, but you kinda do have your head up your ass a bit. Check out the quotes you took and your commentary... it\'s easily just as bad as what you have been saying, let\'s summarize a bit...
Jason: Nothing will change. It was announced today, but the actual machinations have been in the works for awhile. We finally got our first paychecks. Oh, there is one change: Naughty Dog employees [all 30] can go to the Sony store where as before they couldn\'t. But Sony didn\'t buy us to change us. They bought us to continue a good thing. It was more like the Polyphony arrangement, where the teams just continue creating good games independently.
Jumpman: All 30? Doesn\'t he mean 36? What a gimp.
You see those little [] signs? That means it was information added in by the editor of the interview. It was indirectly referred to, but brought back up for the redears who are reviewing the interview, rather then participating. The blame for that number falls on IGN.PS2, not Rubin.
Jason: Um, well dammit! I have tried to shoot my mouth off more than anybody else. How did they shoot theirs off more than me? Well, seriously, I respect Factor Five and they are in a very good position with Nintendo and it\'s been my perception that most companies that are close with Nintendo do well. As a console the PS2 is going to do just as well as the PS did, and it\'s going to do better than GameCube.
Jumpman: Can I have your magic ball Jason?
The guy is asked about Nintendo and Factor5 and then he makes a friendly prediction, one that he stands behind fully and you critisize him about that? I suppose I could have said "where\'s your crystal ball" about Nintendo blowing everyone away, but the topic at hand voids me from doing that because you are replying to a question, just as he is. Nothing wrong with standing behind a prediction, especially this early in the battle. Let him have what he believes, he does have a right to do that just as you have a right to tout Nintendo as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Jason: It\'s still our contention and our goal to create the first second-generation game on the PS2. I wish we could be in a perpetual state of development. But I feel better now that the Xbox has been announced. Before that all we had was hype on XBox, and now when they said it was only going to be three times more powerful, instead of eight times more powerful than the PS2, I feel great about the PS2. The [XBox] DVD player won\'t be shipped in, like they once said. They\'ve changed so many things about the Xbox since it was first announced at GDC that it\'s clear they\'re struggling with it. I think that XBox, beyond all of the other troubles, is just not the system that they promised.
Jumpman: From out of nowhere comes the Xbox...
I totally agree with that though... I went back and read that whole section of the interview and X-box did come out of nowhere in paragraph 3... but paragraph 2 (the quote seen above) is in comparison to the PS2\'s power. Like he said, 8 times the power compared to 3 times the power, that\'s just something that has changed dramatically and the tension between the comparisons has died down a bit. I dunno if his comments about x-box were warranted in something so unsubstantiated as "ps2 graphical tricks" but he said it nonetheless. Just like in Pepsi or Coke commercials, whenever you speak of your competitor, you always downplay it.
Jason: ...and Microsoft\'s machine doesn\'t keep up with Moore\'s Law. The games they showed were running at 1/5 the frame rate they should be. If game developers don\'t have full development kits now or by this summer how can they develop games for launch? Will they only have two games? Will they even make launch this year? I feel that now, after Bill Gates\' announcement, I am absolutely convinced that XBox won\'t be our biggest competition.
Jumpman: Absolutely convinced eh? When did Jason get a time machine to travel to E3 2001?
As was said, he\'s allowed to say what he will. He makes the games you play and read about and knows more about the industry then you ever will. Maybe he\'s polishin Sony\'s knob a bit, but it is his opinion no matter what you say. You think Nintendo will be better then Sony, he thinks otherwise in terms of X-box being better then Sony and he has a right to do so just as you have the same right.
jason: Now what I have to worry about is GameCube, and whether that is as powerful and as easy to develop for as everybody has said. I have heard, and this is totally unsubstantiated, that it\'s harder to develop for than it was expected.
Jumpman: Yah right *****. Did Sony pay you to say that or did you just bring that out of nowhere? How the **** would he know, that\'s right,he doesn\'t. Jason Rubin is a tool...
Read Unsubstantiated. Look up that word and come back when you\'re done and re-read that quote paying close attention to that word. You\'ll change what you just said to someting like "oh, ok" or some crap.
I don\'t think he should be allowed to drive fast cars...
Now,if you still want to live in fantasy land and think Jason is a genious and Crash is gold then fine with me. But this guy is a fool,his interviews and games prove that too.
He bashes X-box, so you bash him about driving a Ferrari? Apparently, he is doing something VERY right to be able to even own one of those... you can consider Crash to be crap all you want, but given that it is their biggest franchise and he\'s driving a Ferrari... it must be selling very well.
I don\'t give a rat\'s ass what you like or don\'t like. I was reffering to the majority. And the majority thinks that Crash games are no good,the sales of the latest versions of them will back me up.
Ummm... if you mean the majority of Nintendo fans, maybe so, but Crash 3 was heralded as one of the best titles by far. You can use sales figures all you want, but the game sold well over 500,000 copies and that\'s a very respectable number for a third sequel on one platform.
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I am not sure what the turn of this topic is going but here is a little rule: :)
When it comes to the competition do not listen to:
1) Factor Five
2) Oddworld Inhabitants
3) Naughty Dog
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i can\'t wait to see the latest on team fortress 2 , i hope they make it multi platform :D.
i am also looking forward for any more news on the "devil may cry ", a resident evil style game.
oh also the latest Zelda news.
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Originally posted by ho3j
I am not sure what the turn of this topic is going but here is a little rule: :)
When it comes to the competition do not listen to:
1) Factor Five
2) Oddworld Inhabitants
3) Naughty Dog
Damn straight, and for that matter don\'t listen to Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, IGN, Dailyradar, EGM, Next-Gen, Uncle Jim-Bob, or Crazy Willy from the third floor. Let your own gaming experiences shape your opinions. That is what sucks about people today. We are such sheep.
My Predictions:
1: The Gamers
2: Nintendo
2: Sony
2: Microsoft
2: Sega
No matter who shows what, the gamers are going to come out on top in this next E3. As far as the Companies go I have to say that it is too close to call. There are too many factors that could EASILY push one company over the top. Whether it be Sony\'s awesome 2nd gen, Nintendo\'s killer apps, Microsofts sheer power, or Sega\'s kick@ss games. Like DJ Dan Rather and MC Ted Koppel said, "Its too close to call."
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Originally posted by Samwise
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I predict that Bill Gates will make out with The Rock.
After they have finished their business (which shouldn\'t take too long) Big Bill will announce the Xbox price - it\'ll cost $600. And you\'ll have to subscribe for MSN @ $50 bucks per month.
Nintendo will announce that their Pokémon franchise is the only thing ever coming for GameCube. But at least there will be over 100 different colors.
Sony announces that the harddrive/Ethernet addon will cost $300 and that you\'ll have to sign up for their network service - which will be $45/month (at least it\'s a whole $5 cheaper than the Xbox network service).
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Don\'t diss The Rock.
This thread is too long.
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the rock is going to lay the smootchdown on bill gates.
j/k :D :D
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oh thats it now yer dead.
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He is going to Rock his bottom
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All I know is that I\'m going to be probably getting a Gamecube as well. So I have a 66% chance of having a console that comes out on top, considering Sega\'s going Multi-platform. Thats my theory, if you own them all, you dont miss out on anything.
Then, you dont have anything to ***** about,except being poor of course.
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Originally posted by Chrono
"Microsoft will anounce the price of the xbox and many people will be blown away. Expecting a 400 dollar price tag they end up with a price tag of the dreamcast at launch. Microsoft will fight it out with Nintendo as the best of the show. Microsoft\'s titles will be very polished and graphics and playability will be astounding. There will not be much of a difference between the graphics of the xbox and Nintendo\'s cube at this point."
:Laughing:
HAHAHAHAHA
Boy will you be in for a reality check... HAHAHA
I\'ll be laughing in your face soo hard
I still can\'t belive people think the x-box will be cheap cause bill gates has money... thats funny, it don\'t work that way if you know buisness, you are all in for a big surprise.
Its not about Bill Gates or his money, its all about making deals happen. If you knew anything about Business you would know that. :) Why do you think the Xbox is using an Intel processor instead of an AMD Athlon? The price was too low and AMD couldn\'t handle it. :) Nvidia could handle the price being super low on their chips because of what they are getting out of it. They get to use the same technology that they used for the xbox in the PC and other devices and Microsoft paid for the R&D. :) The Xbox uses a traditional architecture while the PS2 uses a new architecture that is been proven ineffective and costs a lot more. Also the chips in xbox are using a less expensive micron process. :) See there are tons of things to consider and Microsoft is using price cutting for an advantage, they can also put out royaltys costs on each title made to be less than any console.
Also IE is FREE and has totally killed Netscape which wasn\'t free, how can they do things like this? Its all about the deals and thats one area where you lack in experience.
oh well, ya can\'t win em all I guess. :)
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Microsoft copywright the saying " can you smell what the gates is cookin !".
ok Jokin aside, i think they will have a NXL licenced game seeing thatthe Gates mister has as a ever closer link with the WWF.
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Originally posted by Chrono
Jumpman
MS... well if they annouce the price everybody will ignore them.. if they don\'t they won\'t show much anyway. After all the dev kits were JUST finished...
Today I noticed people complaining that the ps2 hardrive/ethernet would be 100 to 150... well, then be prepared to pay 400+ for the x-box
Hmpf. Well, I don\'t think we\'ll be disappointed with Xbox\'s price. That seems to be the only knock against the system right now, but it really isn\'t much of an argument since the Xbox will be "competitively priced". Think about it, Chrono. Does $400+ sound "competitive" to you? Microsoft are not stupid, expect a $250-$300 price tag.
As far as the Reverend\'s predictions, here they are:
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- Sega: We\'ll see a handful of awesome DC games. However, the real kickers are going to be the cross platform Sega titles. We\'ll see Xbox, PS2 and GC content from Sega.
- Sony: My only prediction (read: HOPE) is that they try to do better than that lame-ass stunt they pulled at last year\'s E3. We all know this is a given. Sony couldn\'t possibly stink it up two years in a row. While Sony will be good, they have to be REALLY IMPRESSIVE to one up TWO BRAND NEW CONSOLES. That\'s a fat chance. They can\'t afford to get ****y this time around because PS2 won\'t be the latest and greatest machine on the market anymore. PS2 had it\'s chance last year and failed to impress, and this year\'s E3 will belong to tha Cube and Xbox! :D
- Nintendo: C\'mon, we all know Nintendo will show us some stuff that will make us crap the hell out of our pants. IT\'S NINTENDO, PEOPLE!!! GameCube will definitely be one of the top consoles of the show. If Miyamoto shows Mario Cube, then I\'m going to get a part time job as a male prostitute to scrap up some cash for a Cube. The show is Nintendo\'s to lose.
- Xbox: Microsoft have gone on record and said that they will own E3. With the impressive things that they have under wraps, I have a hard time contesting that. After Microsoft dominates the TGS, they will take E3 by storm. All naysayers will be silenced, and the only people that don\'t buy Xbox will be the biased anti-Microsoft ones. We will see the "BIG FOUR" at the show. For those of you who have no idea what the "BIG FOUR" are, well let the Reverend enlighten you. The "BIG FOUR" are the titles that Microsoft\'s Ed Fries eluded to in many-a-interview. Supposedly, the "BIG FOUR" will be four games that will be leaps and bounds above anything shown for the PS2. These games will be so technically advanced that the PS2 (or the Cube) couldn\'t even imagine running these games.
As far as the price goes, no one will be disappointed. Just as we predicted that DC was going to retail at $199 and that PS2 would retail for $299, we know that Xbox will be from $249-$299. Mark my word. This year will belong to Xbox and GameCube and the PS2 will be third place. Sony had their chance last year and they aren\'t going to get a second chance to make a first impression.
Game of the Show: Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty/MGSX
Most Impressive Hardware of the Show: Tie between Xbox and GameCube. Mario Cube will be a technically stunning and beautiful game. However, the Microsoft sports games will make believers out of everyone. :D
Least Impressive Hardware of the Show: Once people see the awesome graphical capabilities of the NV2@ and the Flipper, the PS2\'s meager GS will pale in comparison. Although the games might be good, the visual quality will be lackluster.
Best of Show: Sega again this year! The hardware might be old, but their games will wow the crowds and Sega\'s booth will be jumping again this year.
Worst Game of Show: Devil May Cry for the PS2. So much hype surrounds the game until it is crushed by it. The game won\'t be bad (it will be good), but just not as good as everyone expected.
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Sony: My only prediction (read: HOPE) is that they try to do better than that lame-ass stunt they pulled at last year\'s E3. We all know this is a given. Sony couldn\'t possibly stink it up two years in a row. While Sony will be good, they have to be REALLY IMPRESSIVE to one up TWO BRAND NEW CONSOLES. That\'s a fat chance. They can\'t afford to get ****y this time around because PS2 won\'t be the latest and greatest machine on the market anymore. PS2 had it\'s chance last year and failed to impress, and this year\'s E3 will belong to tha Cube and Xbox!
oh dear he\'s switched back into Troll Mode :laughing:.
better get the troll stun guns on standby then :nut:. [/i]
oh and don\'t forget
Game of the Show: Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty/MGSX
should you mean the PS2 ? , look Rev if you want banned there are easyer ways to do it, why don\'t you just start flaming MM or Soulgrind, they will only be too happy to ban you quicker :D.
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Originally posted by Gohan
Originally posted by ho3j
I am not sure what the turn of this topic is going but here is a little rule: :)
When it comes to the competition do not listen to:
1) Factor Five
2) Oddworld Inhabitants
3) Naughty Dog
Damn straight, and for that matter don\'t listen to Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, IGN, Dailyradar, EGM, Next-Gen, Uncle Jim-Bob, or Crazy Willy from the third floor. Let your own gaming experiences shape your opinions. That is what sucks about people today. We are such sheep.
My Predictions:
1: The Gamers
2: Nintendo
2: Sony
2: Microsoft
2: Sega
No matter who shows what, the gamers are going to come out on top in this next E3. As far as the Companies go I have to say that it is too close to call. There are too many factors that could EASILY push one company over the top. Whether it be Sony\'s awesome 2nd gen, Nintendo\'s killer apps, Microsofts sheer power, or Sega\'s kick@ss games. Like DJ Dan Rather and MC Ted Koppel said, "Its too close to call."
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I like this guy. So true, so true.
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no-one will own e3 2k1! BUT the gamers WILL
nintendo- duh, GC and GBA will rock with zelda cubed on video, mario, waverace and third party titles playble
I hope they\'ll announce a KI3.GC\'s price will be announced, i\'ll be 150 us dollar Go! Nintendo impress me!!!
xbox- will dissapoint most of its games will be DC,pS2 or pc ports which look no better than ps2 or GC. Good games are Halo, MGSX, SHX and malice. They will anounce their price which is 300 dollars
ps2- will do okayis not that great, Naughty dogs game will be a BIG dissapointment. Sony will show Etermination and Syphon filter 3. Some great third parties will be:RE4, MGS2, Tekken 4?, Soul caliber 2? and a whole buch of new unannounced games. Sony will drop ps2\'s price to 250!!
PC- I dont really care about this, because its the mostly same as xbox anyway! Some games that\'ll rocka are UT2, Return to Castle Wolfentein and such!
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Sega once again steals the show, albeit tough competition from MGS2 and GT3. VF4 and it\'s 10 million polys spank all other fighting games on PS2 and arcade. Sega announces SegaNet will be available for PS2.A VERy big franchise will have it\'s sequel made known and it will cause great uproar among the classic Sega fans. PSO2 gets announced for a Decmber release. Shenmue 2 clips shown and a japanese demo will be availbe to play. their sports games go to other platofrms, are all network compatible.
best showings in order:
Sega
Nintendo
Konami
Square/EA
Microsoft
Namco
Capcom
Eric Jacob
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My Prediction:
E3 will be awsome. *ahem*... that is all.
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Hey Jumpboy, if you enjoy endlessly swallowing Zelda\'s link (not that there\'s anything wrong with that) tha\'s cool. Just don\'t bash a good developer because of your own prejudice. Yeah, that\'s right, prejudice, a new word for you and your Nintendo biased siblings. You hate a game and its developer so much prejudice has blinded you to what millions of others are happy with. Many of which didn\'t find Mario 64 all that great. You need to try and get past this or you\'ll be missing out on some good fun and continue to appear to most regular folk as full of Donkey Konga. Sup 2 u
Prejuduce? Ha. If you want to believe that then fine, but it\'s not the truth. I don\'t like Naughty Dog because their games are over-hyped garbage,and they run their mouths off every time they get the chance. I own Crash 1 and 2 dood, but I thought Mario 64 was ten times better then them so I eventually sold both of them because they could not compare.
Read this again then shut up.
Now,if you still want to live in fantasy land and think Jason is a genious and Crash is gold then fine with me. But this guy is a fool,his interviews and games prove that too.
Now for Ryu...
You see those little [] signs? That means it was information added in by the editor of the interview. It was indirectly referred to, but brought back up for the redears who are reviewing the interview, rather then participating. The blame for that number falls on IGN.PS2, not Rubin.
Sorry then.
The guy is asked about Nintendo and Factor5 and then he makes a friendly prediction, one that he stands behind fully and you critisize him about that? I suppose I could have said "where\'s your crystal ball" about Nintendo blowing everyone away, but the topic at hand voids me from doing that because you are replying to a question, just as he is. Nothing wrong with standing behind a prediction, especially this early in the battle
I\'m not mad about his prediction,it\'s his reasons for believing that PS2 will do better-none. He should have given reasons for for believing that,but instead he set himself up again...
Let him have what he believes, he does have a right to do that just as you have a right to tout Nintendo as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Your not going to like this but...here\'s your big fancy word back at you: Unsubstantiated
I totally agree with that though...
I don\'t care. He still make himself look like a tool by bringing the Xbox up. It\'s almost like he\'s trying to make other consoles look bad...:rolleyes:
As was said, he\'s allowed to say what he will. He makes the games you play and read about and knows more about the industry then you ever will. Maybe he\'s polishin Sony\'s knob a bit, but it is his opinion no matter what you say. You think Nintendo will be better then Sony, he thinks otherwise in terms of X-box being better then Sony and he has a right to do so just as you have the same right.
Deosn\'t change a thing. He doesn\'t know enough about the Xbox to make a final conclusion. Right now he\'s just assuming without any real solid evidence...
Read Unsubstantiated. Look up that word and come back when you\'re done and re-read that quote paying close attention to that word. You\'ll change what you just said to someting like "oh, ok" or some crap.
I already knew what that means you -. Not enough evidence right? Do you want me to get more interviews with this guy to prove that he is a tool or were you just trying yo sound smart.
He bashes X-box, so you bash him about driving a Ferrari? Apparently, he is doing something VERY right to be able to even own one of those... you can consider Crash to be crap all you want, but given that it is their biggest franchise and he\'s driving a Ferrari... it must be selling very well.
He\'s still living off of Crash1 and 2...doesn\'t surprise me.
Ummm... if you mean the majority of Nintendo fans, maybe so, but Crash 3 was heralded as one of the best titles by far. You can use sales figures all you want, but the game sold well over 500,000 copies and that\'s a very respectable number for a third sequel on one platform.
Only 500000 for Sony\'s semi mascot? I like the see the sales for the fourth one.
I am not sure what the turn of this topic is going but here is a little rule:
When it comes to the competition do not listen to:
1) Factor Five
2) Oddworld Inhabitants
3) Naughty Dog
GOT THAT RIGHT.
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Ryu: Let him have what he believes, he does have a right to do that just as you have a right to tout Nintendo as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Jumpman: Your not going to like this but...here\'s your big fancy word back at you: Unsubstantiated
Beliefs don\'t need evidence. He thinks the PS2 is God\'s gift to man, that\'s his choice.
Ryu: As was said, he\'s allowed to say what he will. He makes the games you play and read about and knows more about the industry then you ever will. Maybe he\'s polishin Sony\'s knob a bit, but it is his opinion no matter what you say. You think Nintendo will be better then Sony, he thinks otherwise in terms of X-box being better then Sony and he has a right to do so just as you have the same right.
Jumpman: Deosn\'t change a thing. He doesn\'t know enough about the Xbox to make a final conclusion. Right now he\'s just assuming without any real solid evidence...
He doesn\'t need evidence, it\'s his opinion. You like Nintendo, I don\'t ask you why.
Jumpman: I already knew what that means you -. Not enough evidence right? Do you want me to get more interviews with this guy to prove that he is a tool or were you just trying yo sound smart.
Nice name calling, that\'ll win many arguements. The point was, he stated merely what he heard, not what he saw from a written docuement. Ever have frien... err... other people on the school grounds who tell you something about another person that they \'heard\' but could not be proven? Same thing. People hear a lot of things, what\'s true and what\'s not is another story.
Ryu: He bashes X-box, so you bash him about driving a Ferrari? Apparently, he is doing something VERY right to be able to even own one of those... you can consider Crash to be crap all you want, but given that it is their biggest franchise and he\'s driving a Ferrari... it must be selling very well.
Jumpman: He\'s still living off of Crash1 and 2...doesn\'t surprise me.
Maybe so, even though crash 3 was much of the same. Fact is, \'he\'s got the loot.\'
Only 500000 for Sony\'s semi mascot? I like the see the sales for the fourth one.
You said you had sales figures, go get em. I gave a number that I know to be the least, I can\'t say that those are it for sure. Besides, who said mascot titles should sell well? I\'d much rather have Snake as Sony\'s mascot, but that won\'t happen.... point being, who cares.
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Jumpman, please refrain from calling people names like that again. It was unnecessary and inappropriate.
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Beliefs don\'t need evidence. He thinks the PS2 is God\'s gift to man, that\'s his choice.
Yeah but he\'s a well known developer. When developers do run their mouths like that,it makes them sound like idiots. He SHOULD have the commen sense to back up his statements with facts.
He doesn\'t need evidence, it\'s his opinion. You like Nintendo, I don\'t ask you why.
Re-read above please.
Nice name calling, that\'ll win many arguements.
-Ryu
Jump, not to pounce on your testicles or anything, but you kinda do have your head up your ass a bit.
Just returning the favour...
Believe or not,but insulting has won me a fare share of arguments. Before I was banned,I would always combine facts with insults,and it was always be a 10 hit combo. When the other person in an argument reads the facts,he gets scared. Then when he sees the put downs he runs home to mommy. So you see,name calling already won me many arguments,but since I have respect for you I\'ll only do it when you do it first.
The point was, he stated merely what he heard
Yeah and where do you think he got that from? Does he have special connections with Nintendo or what?
Ever have frien... err...
Nice flamming,that\'ll win many arguments.
You said you had sales figures, go get em. I gave a number that I know to be the least, I can\'t say that those are it for sure.
I don\'t have the exact number but I know Crash 4 sold less than Crash 3. It just shows that some people can EVENTUALLY know when a game is bad...
Besides, who said mascot titles should sell well?
*cough Mario,Sonic *cough*
Mario and Sonic always sell well so I just expect Crash to do the same.
Oh wait quality....
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1.) Nintendo won\'t win E3
2.) Xbox will have some great looking games, and much more than most of the boys at this site will give it credit for
3.) Sony will show off a ton of playable games
Topic locked cause too many of you feel your opinions are actually correct