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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Nplayer-2 on February 16, 2001, 01:27:31 AM
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damn fox special.....they brought up many good points, some are VERY VERY complex to explain and counter-attack like the lighting and how the flag some how waves with no air on the moon..
i got VERY scared when i saw those two shots that (according to NASA)..one was on day one...the other was day two BUT(according to NASA) 2 miles away...BUT THEY ARE IN THE SAME DAMN SPOT....why is that eh?....it supports the theory that they did it in the nevada desert (neil armstrong even said the moon looked like the southern desert of america for christ sakes)
IMO..i don\'t know what to belive, the united states is a hardcore liar(JFK assasination any one?)...they could very well have *gasp* faked the greatest moment in the history of mankind..land of the moon..
what do you guys think?...did we land on the moon?
either way we will know in 2030-something(after 50 years the US *has* to turn over every detail about an event, like the moon landing)
2013---JFK...finally.:D:D
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I think they did land. but that\'s spooky.
What if? Just maybe? No, I don\'t believe it. USA government can\'t lie all over the world. It would\'ve been stated fake long time ago.
Maybe Neil Armstrong wasn\'t the first human to step on moon.. maybe it was done much later?
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infact not only have we been to the moon and back, but i am now posting from the Moon :D.
anyone dare me to "write" my name in the Lunar dust ?
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I think it would have been more believeable had FOX gotten more than just ONE inept "NASA" representitive to refute the over 13 different conspiracy theorists. Remember Alien Autopsy? The way FOX made it sound.. we were looking at unrefutable proof that Aliens DID crash at Roswell. Turns out.. after speaking to the REAL experts (like George Lucas), the entire video could be faked quite easily.
Not to mention that they made absolutely NO mention of Apollo 13, who came close to the moon and passed through the Van Allen radiation belts. And what about the Moon rocks Apollo 11 brought back? Why were those never even mentioned by anyone on this FOX special? They said there was no telescope capable of seeing the moon\'s surface in enough detail to pick up the lunar lander... well what about the Hubble that can see Upmteen million light-years into deep space? Surely the Hubble can see the Sea of Tranquility with enough clarity to make out the reminants of the LEMs left behind.
It\'s all spin-doctoring and how the evidence is presented. After all, David Copperfield dosen\'t preform magic.. but I\'ll be damned if I know how he can fly, make the Statue of Liberty dissapear, or do any number of other tricks he preforms. To me, that\'s magic.. because I don\'t know all the details involved... just as you doubt we landed on the moon because Fox didn\'t give you all the details. They just gave you what they wanted to show you.. what they thought would entertain and give them good ratings.
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Hey, that\'s a good post Sonyfan!
I can just agree. Why would Lovell fake the apollo 13 -story? And the conspiracy would\'ve been announced fake now. And I agree on that hubble-subject.
Yes, the crash at roswell could be faked easily, and I think that alien-autopsy was a fake, but the government is just messing with our minds. They claim that there never was a crash at roswell. What if there was? Watch the movie; was it named plain \'roswell\'?
About JFK, if you watch the movie starring Kevin Costner, you get the idea of how 100 prosently government can hide facts and silence those who\'re going to tell the truth. Roswell could be a silenced case. But rumors are always rumors.
There\'s lots of questions I\'d like to get an answer. What is life for instance. But then I have these more plain questions, like "How were Pyramids built?" "How did copperfield make Statue of Liberty disappear?" "Did space-craft crash on Roswell?" "Who really killed JFK and how big was the conspiracy?" etc. etc.
But these questions make life mysterious. Still I hope I can answer my questions sometime. Let it be before or after death.
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and this is why i dont watch TV
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Like my dad always says... "If it was on TV then it must have been true" he was being sarcastic of course.
People need to learn to start reading and not watch so much damn TV...Its rotting our brains..
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yeah i remember watching one of these programmes one day on UK TV, it also sugested that the lunar landings where fake, due to the fact that the moon was taken and still is under Nazi control :nut:\'s or what !
they said they used the V3 rocket to get there
if you ask me the director of the programme must of spent way too much time alone !
the only thing on the moon right now is little old me , oh and the moon cheese people, they are very friendly and they an\'t nazi before you ask they all vote Kommunist hey mm why not join us.
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well i think it may have been faked because how the hell can a flag wave without any air??? if anyone can explain that please do so and kill this tread, and as for jfk, i personally think that it was castro behind it, im serious, let me preach this stuff, at first castro and maerica were friends.. yes they were friends, then he came over to the us to visit for the first time, now anyone that is a president or some type of high class offficial, is to be treated as one in the us, to make them feel as comfortable as possible, but when he came over there was no greeting there wasnt sheet, he was treated with utter direspect, they didnt even let him meet kennedy, instead they gave him nixon that that was an insult as well, castro was outraged andhated the us fromt hat day, then we tried to assasinate him, yes we tried,ok listen tot his, back in the day castros secratary was a U.S. citizen and was in love with castro, of course they were doing it, but seeing as how castro is so high class he got tired of screwing the same thing so he dumped here and fired her, got a new chick blah blah blah, but this is where the key point comes in, when she came back tot he us, the cia made an offer to her, if she would go and assasinate him, i cant remember right off hand what happened then but i do remember that she was gong to assasinate him and he knew it, so when they met face to face he said go ahead try, you cant do it , you love me to much, and being in love still i guess she couldnt do it, love... our most formadible enemy, but the one tha tops the cake is this babay, the cia wanted to getback at castro and make him go broke , what is cubas main crop? its sugar cane, acres and acres of it, so the cia went over to cuba and what they did was unbvelievable, they would get malatok ****tails and tie them to a cats tail, and fire it up, it would run like mad to try and get away from the fire, but it would have to rest from exaustion, and the cane would burn up, when the cat felt the heat again it would start running, and well you can figure it out, a cat alone could burn up 50 acres, yep, so it had to be castro, and th cia covered it up, but the movie has some great points
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
There\'s lots of questions I\'d like to get an answer. What is life for instance. But then I have these more plain questions, like "How were Pyramids built?" "How did copperfield make Statue of Liberty disappear?" "Did space-craft crash on Roswell?" "Who really killed JFK and how big was the conspiracy?" etc. etc.
But these questions make life mysterious. Still I hope I can answer my questions sometime. Let it be before or after death.
The Almighty Samwise™ at your service! :D
"How were Pyramids built?"[/i]
Built by hand by slaves
"How did copperfield make Statue of Liberty disappear?"[/i]
Cameratricks and arrangements with the crowd/bystanders (yeah, sorry to burst your bubble, but he isn\'t a real magician ;))
"Did space-craft crash on Roswell?"[/i]
If someone could make a spacecraft and travel zillions of lightyears I\'m sure they would clever enough to fly over Earth without crashing in a remote desert in the US...
"Who really killed JFK and how big was the conspiracy?"[/i]
Central Intelligence Agency (aka CIA)
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When are they going to land on Mars?,i heard theres lifeform on Mars especially in the Mars\' river.
It will be interesting if they can bring back martian specimens and creatures back to earth for study.
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We landed on the moon. FOX needed some great show--so a conspiracy is always the best.
Give them time, and they will make a show out of how Hitler may of lived through the end of WW2.
The only "conspiracy theory" I support is JFK. I don\'t believe Lee Harvey killed him, and if he did, I believe he was hired by the CIA. Why? JFK was having sex with every possible lady--it looked pretty bad and he did step on alot of toes, and created some enemies.
I also believe in Aliens. If the universe is infinite, then I think it is naive to believe that we are the highest form in the whole universe. And if we are--that is a scarey thought, in itself.
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I think its a big lie.
They just got fed up with all the failed Apollo missions that they just made it up. Another thing, HOW come there were no stars in any photos? I used to think that we landed on the moon, but not since 5 years ago.
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Well according to this (http://www.reptiles.org/~madrev/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm) source the moon doesn\'t exist ;)
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well to answer your question about the flag on the moon - it has wires in it to hold it out in the rectangle position
plus i believe that they landed on the moon - how hard is it to believe - i mean the moon is only the begining - if we can put a little robot on mars why not humans on the moon
doesn\'t seem to far fecthed to me - who would believe anything FOX thinks anyway?
now some of the other stuff though - i don\'t know what to believe - liek whats the deal with the face on mars...?
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"Did space-craft crash on Roswell?"
If someone could make a spacecraft and travel zillions of lightyears I\'m sure they would clever enough to fly over Earth without crashing in a remote desert in the US...
yeah thats the thing that gets me about it, the fact that people beleve that, Aliens invented a ship can travel cross the vast distances of space, only to come to Earht and CRACH and DIE :laughing:
it\'s like saying they invended some kind of hyperspace drive, but they never go round to inventing the seat belt :laughing:.
i hope it wasn\'t aliens that crashed in Roswell , because that means that they where total Dumm@sses, hey may be thats the origin of the common present day forum troll?
the truth is right in here
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Originally posted by nO-One
Well according to this (http://www.reptiles.org/~madrev/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm) source the moon doesn\'t exist ;)
Muhahahahha!
That is the funniest thing I\'ve heard for quite a while! LOL! But it makes you wonder... Even though it seems incredible absurd it is an intriguing thought... hehe
The truth is out there!
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DIDNT ANYONE READ HOW I THOUGHT JFK DIED, READ IT!!!
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Well it\'s a joke (I think) saw it on ars and laughed my arse off.
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How did people make pyrimids a perfect triangle?
Who built stone hedge?
how did the mayan(sp?) empire die out?
How many things does the goverment cover up?
ok maybe they did fake the moon landing.... i mean they were trying to get there befor russia, so maybe they faked it so russia didnt try as hard.
Maybe the egyptions knew something we dont. maybe the pyramids were portals to aliean planets the allians built for them. i mean they are pointing at stars. so maybe there "after-life" is really another world.
if you look at it....... what is earth? where did evrything come from..... ? maybe there is bigger thingd then gallaxys, universes .... maybe universes are just the ants of a giant planet....... ok now im scaring myself.
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"well i think it may have been faked because how the hell can a flag wave without any air???" - Unknown
It didn\'t wave. If you watched closely.. the flag only waved while the Astronauts were setting it up. Most of the movement can easily be attributed to the astronauts moving the flagpole.. and thus the flag around. If you watch moon footage from other sources than the Fox special, you\'ll notice that it stands PERFECTLY still after they put it up. (Which in itself is pretty strange since the moon has 1/6th of the earth\'s gravity... wouldn\'t the flag fall eventually??) Anyway, what about solar winds?? I\'ve heard quite a few specials on the Learning Channel explaining how these could power deep space flights much in the same way our wind propells a boat. Seeing as how the moon has no atmostphere to buffer the Solar Winds.. could\'nt those make the flag wave/stand still?? (It\'s not like any of the astronauts would have felt the effects of a gentle breeze in those gargantuan suits.)
It\'s just kinda funny that if you had turned to the History Channel not more than 20 minuties after the Fox special, you would have seen "History\'s Greatest Blunders" which was about the Apollo astronauts who burned to death on the launchpad. The footage the History channel showed had no "evidence" like the Fox special had. No crossing shadows, no "Selective shadowing", no missing crosshair pieces, and no waving flag.
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You know i watched that program too and i\'m having doubts myself...........
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and you know what makes me even more sick?...that fact that i know it\'s still the best damn country in the world...
when is the goverment going to get exposed for the ***** it is?...everyone dame well knows lee harvey oswald did not kill JFK...it was the CIA...FBI..and orders from the very top(and i mean the TOP)...the reson for his death?..simple, vietnam and the fact that he was not a "nixon" like russian hater...he *gasp* belived in peace and the CIA thought that was a threat to national security...and had to be dealt with at any cost...ANY COST.
in fact, we tried to kill castro...7 times..and failed every single time...he IMO had nothing to do with it...he was too small of a fish to do something as big as this..
now onto the moon landed..if it really did happen.
i don\'t know why the russians didn\'t go to the moon...their rockets(the N-1) were MUCH bigger than our saturnV and WAY more powerfull...they had more experience, the resources..i just don\'t know why they didn\'t go...could it be because it really was impossible?
for those who saw the show...did you see how the same craft used on the moon landings were out of control on the earth but some how 250,000 miles away on the moon they work perfectly?...i found that very weird.
the flag does move when NO ONE is holding it..and rather harsh by the way(like a very strong wind hit it...but that\' is impossible on the moon)...
what about the lighting?....there is only one light source yet when they showed the pics...there are two or even three light sources....but that could be the earth\'s light...
and the shadows?..why is it that when a astronaut steps into a very dark shadow he is still lite very brightly?
and what about those two "different" places(according to NASA) were proved to be the same damn place? even tho (according to NASA) each one is on a different day and 2 miles apart...what about that eh? looks like they ****ed up.
that part about two different places according to nasa really being the same place gave me goosebumbs...
then that idiot nasa spokesman didn\'t help..with his arrogant additude at the end: "fact is, the united states of america landed on the moon in the 1960\'s and 70\'s..case closed"...
PS: keep in mind that nasa left a mirror on the moon to prove they were there...scientist know it\'s location and all they have to do is point a laser shoot and it should come back..and it does....but also keep in mind anything could have left that mirror there;)
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The best evidence for me was the abscence of a blast crater and how the film looked when they doubled the speed.
BTW, If the Gov.t could fake a moon landing in the 60s then I am positive they could fake a Mars rover/landing in the 90\'s and beyond.
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Im still waiting for America to put a man on Mars !!
Its taking way too long..
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Originally posted by Crippler
Im still waiting for America to put a man on Mars !!
Its taking way too long..
They just have to secure some studio time. :D I hear they are in talks to have Tom Hanks play the captain and Spielberg is going to direct.
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I\'d much rather go to mars than the moon. (where do I get the time to think of these things?)
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Originally posted by nO-One
Well according to this (http://www.reptiles.org/~madrev/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm) source the moon doesn\'t exist ;)
you can rest asured, the moon excists, cause if it wouldn\'t, there was no live possible on planet earth, the moon causes for the earth to stabilise well enough to make live possible, if the moon wasn\'t there the earth would go up and down like crazy which would cause for major temperature variables.
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Originally posted by Gohan
Originally posted by Crippler
Im still waiting for America to put a man on Mars !!
Its taking way too long..
They just have to secure some studio time. :D I hear they are in talks to have Tom Hanks play the captain and Spielberg is going to direct. [/B]
LOL! :laughing:
That would be helluva funny.
"Dreamworks Pictures presents"
"A film by Steven Spielberg"
"Tom Hanks"
"Going To Mars"
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Originally posted by politiepet
Originally posted by nO-One
Well according to this (http://www.reptiles.org/~madrev/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm) source the moon doesn\'t exist ;)
you can rest asured, the moon excists, cause if it wouldn\'t, there was no live possible on planet earth, the moon causes for the earth to stabilise well enough to make live possible, if the moon wasn\'t there the earth would go up and down like crazy which would cause for major temperature variables. [/B]
Yeah I knew that I think this site is just a joke.