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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Unicron! on February 17, 2001, 02:54:27 PM
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Seeing all the great games coming out I am so amazed about the PS2.
The PS2 was what I expected at launch but now its surpassing my expectations
Here are links from the tech demos 1999 March.
http://psxmedia.ign.com/media/news/video/psx2_3.mpg
http://psxmedia.ign.com/media/news/video/psx2_4.mpg
http://psxmedia.ign.com/media/news/video/psx2_5.mpg
http://psxmedia.ign.com/media/news/video/psx2_6.mpg
Now CHECK these OUT!!!
http://194.47.16.181/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6251
GT3
http://www.coremagazine.com/movies/zoedemo.asf
ZOE
http://www.sonyweb.com/media/bouncer/import/bounce03.mpg
Bouncer
http://www.sonyweb.com/media/rr5/rrm01.mpg
RRV Intro
http://www.sonyweb.com/media/onimusha/import/oni01.mpg
Onimusha
http://www.sonyweb.com/media/ttt/ttt20.mpg
TTT
http://194.47.16.181/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6044
MGS2 direct feed movies
etc
The game grpahics kick the Demos\' ass!!
And this we havent completely reached the 2nd genaration of PS2 games,PS2\' new architecture causes difficulty in creating games that utilise the console\'s true power,and there are many more games that look promising.
We still havent seen Naughty dogs project,we havent seen The Getaway and FF10 footage(movies),Wipeout already looks GREAT,Vf4 is in the works said to be having 10 million polys on Naomi2 board(fingers crossed for an arcade perfect),Soul Calibur2 is also in the works,we have seen the PS2\'s capabilities with the incomplete Munch\'s Oddissey(Looked sharper than XBOX\'s current version) etc.
And with internet access,printer and camera compatibility(future games giving the chance of having your face in the game),DVD movies etc Its almoist so perfect.
Your thoughts on this
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This is the quiest thread ever.
Come on guys...
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It is the natrual evolution of the PS2. We\'ll see the graphics get better and better, just like the Psone. The true test for Sony is to market succesfully the Broadband adapter and Hardrive.
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Most of those demos still look better than most of todays games.
That Crash Demo looks cute :)
And that Final Fantasy Demo looks magnificant!
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Id just like to add with Gran Tourimo 3 \'s delays. Sony is acting like Nintendo.
Pushing back and back :(
Just hope it lives up to the hype..
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Yes ther is still no game matching the graphics of the FF demo but GT3 looks better than its demo,TTT looks better than its demo,RRV INTRO lloks better than its demo Bouncer looks as good if not better than its demo etc
The crash demo looks nice but there is luck of detail textures and variety.And the backround is a white snow surface and a rosy sky.
Not impressive IMO.
From Sofwares\' Demo has minimum colors low polygon models and crappy movements.
Most of those demos still look better than most of todays games.
That Crash Demo looks cute
And that Final Fantasy Demo looks magnificant!
You ve only mentioned 2.But I get your point about the FF demo
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That FF demo pales in comparison to anything and everything we\'ve seen from MGS2 imo. The water effects of the rubber ducky demo have been duplicated in the new Baldur\'s gate game, and the abundant particle effects are present in both ZOE and Starfighter. I don\'t see anything overly impressive about those demos in comparison to the games we will have in our hands in a few months.
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Posted By Ryu
That FF demo pales in comparison to anything and everything we\'ve seen from MGS2 imo
MGS2 looks that good?Now that you ve mentioned it MGS2 is full with effects not seen in any PS2 tech demo.So I guess you are right.
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Right, not to mention that what we\'ve seen from FFX looks every bit as good as the PS2 FF tech demo.
I hear so many people ***** and whine that the PS2 isn\'t living up to it\'s tech demos. Ya know, I HAVE the tech demo\'s on my PC and I think the games comming in the next few months prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt, the PS2 is living up to what it\'s initial demos promised... and begining to deliver what Sony themselves initially promised.
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And thats only the first generation.Imagine the third.
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Yess...and it is only the infancy for the PS2:D
Can you imagine what kind of Graphics will we see in 3rd,4th and 5th generation of games? PS2 will show everything Sony has promised...and even MORE!!!!
...a little question for you...what do you know about streaming Textures in Mpeg2 format from the DVD in real time? Haven\'t Textures in Mpeg2 a compression of 10/1?
Tell me(if you really know something) thanks:)
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Originally posted by Unicron!
This is the quiest thread ever.
Come on guys...
come on it is like 10am on a sunday.
everyone is probably asleep.
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come on it is like 10am on a sunday.
everyone is probably asleep.
I was sleepy and I wasnt thinking clearly:)
...a little question for you...what do you know about streaming Textures in Mpeg2 format from the DVD in real time? Haven\'t Textures in Mpeg2 a compression of 10/1?
Tell me(if you really know something) thanks
I dont know much about texture compression because I ve never seen an exact fact about it.
But If I remember clearely(Its been a while since I last checked the texture issue.So If I am wrong in some parts someone please correct me) it can stream from the DVD small textures and through the 48GB bandwidth send them to the GS then processing and sending them to the VRAM and then through the 3.6GB to the EE engine to display th eresults.(Ehm I think I did something wrong here).
I dont know what happens to the remaining bandwidth but I think there is a texture swapping through the DRAM and 48GB Bndth until it sends to the VRAM again.Probaply there is a continuosly texture compression to make the textures size smaller.
There is a big advandage from the way textures work on PS2.The GS can process the general data from the texture and then create the same texture but with different patterns.
Example:A brick texture goes through processing giving another brick texture that looks different.Result:No repeated textures.The textures are generated through processing and could change while playing if the developer wants to.
I am think I explained some things wrongly so please someone correct me If there is something wrong.
The texture issue is so complicated I find difficulties explaining them because of my bad English.
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Thanks Unicron! :)
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Seeing all the great games coming out I am so amazed about the PS2.
The PS2 was what I expected at launch but now its surpassing my expectations
All the great games? yep, you are definatly a fanboy alright. :)
Your expectations must be extremely low
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Yeah I suppose I am a fanboy because I am not having the same opinions as yours FANBOY!
When I say all great games I mean only the great games.Ok?
And as a logical consumer I am not basing my opinions or expectations completely on the media.
Thats why I wasnt disapointed with the PS2 although the enormous hype by the media.
And you cant deny GT3 ZOE MGS2 ONIMUSHA etc are AAA titles.
I fou want proofs why PS2 has exceeded my expectations DOWNLOAD the damn tech demo movies and compare them with the currwent full games movies.
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Originally posted by Dwarrior
Originally posted by Unicron!
Seeing all the great games coming out I am so amazed about the PS2.
The PS2 was what I expected at launch but now its surpassing my expectations
All the great games? yep, you are definatly a fanboy alright. :)
Your expectations must be extremely low
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God that was lame Docwiz. Uh, I mean Dwarrior... :rolleyes:
It\'s his opinion, that doesn\'t make him a fanboy. But I won\'t even bother arguing with you DOC.
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God that was lame Docwiz. Uh, I mean Dwarrior...
It\'s his opinion, that doesn\'t make him a fanboy. But I won\'t even bother arguing with you DOC.
I for a moment thought he was Docwiz too.Damn.Not again.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
God that was lame Docwiz. Uh, I mean Dwarrior...
It\'s his opinion, that doesn\'t make him a fanboy. But I won\'t even bother arguing with you DOC.
I for a moment thought he was Docwiz too.Damn.Not again. [/B]
Yeah, and isn\'t it funny how an IP search done by mm some time ago revealed two users on Dwarrior\'s IP. The other one was Docwiz...
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Ah... Docwiz what a fanboy. Why can\'t we all just leave eachother alone. Just because he does not like the ps2 does not mean he should insult all the great games that are coming. He\'s kind of mad that the X-box is just getting all of the old ps2 games. :)
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Originally posted by Solid Snack
Ah... Docwiz what a fanboy. Why can\'t we all just leave eachother alone. Just because he does not like the ps2 does not mean he should insult all the great games that are coming. He\'s kind of mad that the X-box is just getting all of the old ps2 games. :)
I don\'t know of any old PS2 games that are coming on the xbox, but I can name quite a few old PC games that are coming to the PS2 and thats a damn shame.
I mean the lack of quality is just sad, they might as well port Deer Hunter from the PC and put it on the Sony PS2 box.
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I can name quite a few old PC games that are coming to the PS2 and thats a damn shame.
I mean the lack of quality is just sad, they might as well port Deer Hunter from the PC and put it on the Sony PS2 box.
Name them and then we will see if there are PC ports of games like deer hunter.
And your post is off subject.I cant find anything inhere talking about PC ports.Neither have Solid Snack referd to PC ports.Or propably you mentioned bad ass PC ports just to bash the PS2.
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Originally posted by Crippler
Most of those demos still look better than most of todays games.
That Crash Demo looks cute :)
And that Final Fantasy Demo looks magnificant!
could someone please tell me where where i could get more info on these 2 games please ?
thanks :D.
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You mean demos?