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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: CelliCeL on February 19, 2001, 05:56:26 PM
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The best system that i bought was the SNES AND THE PSX.
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It doesn\'t matter much cause I like all the systems it\'s the games that have been my fav. MGS, FF7, Zelda, RE, Shenmue, these are the things that I remember.
I would have to say though that my N64 was played the most just ahead of the NES and SNES, my Dreamcast is catching up though and could take the lead. My PS2 has had quite a work out but it\'s still young:D give it a year. My Saturn and MD where also played alot.....aw damn I love em all:crying: :D I don\'t regret buying any of them:)
Hang on this is a debating forum......um ah I mean Gamecube is the best no wait it\'s not out yet, oh well that doesn\'t seem to stop alot of people though:rolleyes: *cough* xbox fanboys *cough*:D
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well for me it was SNES
all my fav games of all time on the system
mostly i loved the great plots of constant RPG\'s on the system i loved Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Illusion of Gaia,Final Fantasy 3, and all the other great games.
plus the SNES was just plain and simple a great gaming experience that made a bunch of people gamers.
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I like something about all of them, but my favorite is probably the NES.
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The Sega Master System. It still runs perfectly and give me hours of great gaming despite being over 15 years old. Plus those little credit card looking cartridges kicked SO much ass. Now I\'ve see NES\'s that are still running.. but I\'ve yet to see one that you didn\'t have to jam the cartridge into the base over and over and over again, then have to hit to reset button continuously for half an hour to get working.
My PSX is my second best console, since it\'s the only other console I\'ve owned that\'s made it though a full generation of gaming, going on two or more, without crapping out on me. (Despite being treated worse than almost all of my previous consoles combined). Sure it sounds like hell with all that grinding noise and I have to turn it up on it\'s side in order to get the games to load properly... but I just see that as practicing getting used to the PS2\'s vertical position. :D Actually it\'s no bad for a CD based system.. I have never gotten my Diskmans to last nearly that long. Overheating??? Never.. When I first got FFVII I didn\'t have a Mem card.. so I left my PSX running for about two weeks streight until I finished. I still leave it on for days at a time when I pause a game to go do something and then forget it\'s still running.
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Sega Dreamcast by far is my favorite console.
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By far, the best one is... ummmm, many of them!
1. The Genesis with all of it\'s add-ons. That sucked up much of my time as a kid!
2. Dreamcast - who could ask for more? Online play with PSO alone puts it up there!
3. Saturn - import, import, import, oh yeah, and ONLINE PLAY!! oh yeah! got my NetLink back up, anyone else got one of those? we could play sometime!
4. SNES - ahh, good times with Mario Kart and "The Singles" soundtrack! also Chrono Trigger and Mario World!
5. SMS - Spanked the NES out of the sky, especially when you factor in graphics and imports! :) Phantasy Star, Rastan, Sonic, RC Grand Prix! ahh good times!
6. PSX - by no means a slouch,t he first 2 years were awesome! Assault Rigs, Twisted Metal 1 and 2, Alien Trilogy, Resident Evil, and Tomb Raider!
7. Game Gear - Shinobi 2: The Silent Fury! OH YEAH!
8. Atari 2600 - the first console i remember playing, ahhh the memories!
9. Game Boy - still got mine somewhere. Tetris and Mario Land were great! This was of course, pre kiddy-stage!
10. NES - had great games! Fell hard, like PSX, to shoddy manfacturing!
Those be my top ten, yo!
Eric Jacob
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I\'ve got a few NES\' and some of them have issues some don\'t. I have one still in the box, still in all of it\'s plastic. So someday when my other two die I can open that one up. Or sell it. There was one that went for over $300 on EBAY the other day.
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I\'d have to say I like my PSX the best. Tons and tons of groovy games. My SNES is a good second... mmm, Castlevania IV, Axelay, F-Zero. Yum. Also my MegaDrive kicks major butt. Sonics \'n\' all. Yum.
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commodore 64,
it was my first real computer, before it I only had these weird things with these joysticks with only this button you could turn around and play pong \'n\' stuff
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Snes and Genesis
;)
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The SNES is my old school favorite because of all the memories it brings back. I was too young(12-13?) to really apreciate it for what it was. Right now my favorite is the Dreamcast. I hate that they are going to stop making it. It pisses me off that people don\'t recognise a good console when they see one. I may hurt someone if I have to buy a new console to play Shenmue 3, 4, etc. Eventhough I am already going to buy them all it pisses me off to break the continuity of the Dreamcast\'s Magnum Opus.
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Ah, Snes. It was the best console ever ( I mean it was as I don\'t own it anymore ). I used to play it every day 5 years. I played all kinds of classics like...
Starfox; ah, I dwell in the memory of this GREAT shoot-em-up game. Very atmospheric, very hard.
Super Mario Kart; How I used to play this with my family and friends... How fun it was shooting each other and race in those wonderful levels.. My favourite driver was Luigi and Koopa Troopa... those times... *sniff*
Super Mario World; the best Mario-game because of all its secrets and great atmosphere. And this game was hard ( for me ). I remember all the secrets I tried and found; it left a very good memory to my mind.
Flashback; I remember this game was hard and I didn\'t quite understand it ( I was terrible in english back then )... But it was good nonetheless. I used to watch this when my father played.
And the other favourite console is...
PSX.
This bringed great games like Crash Bandicoot etc. in front of me. I loved and still love the console ( as I play FFIX with it )
and last but not the least
N64.
Altho\' the expensive games and annoying cartridges, and lack of 3rd party developers, this console was my favourite when I owned it. I was so young that I loved all the games I owned. With great love I remember games such as...
Mario Kart 64; we played the 4-player game with my friends and family for 2 years and never got bored. Really great stuff. But still, this game lacked something, and lost in the competition between the Snes classic Smario kart and MK64...
Mario 64. Really great; good atmosphere, good musics, great levels; and lots of area to explore. One of my favourite games. Would still be, but N64 is sold.
And of course I love my PS2, but can\'t really say yet will it achieve the classic-status like these 3 have achieved...
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PSX probably...it\'s impossible to forget all the great games that were and still are being made for it.
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I agree with Joyda on that. The N64 is my favorite when it comes to multiplayer. I have had SO much fun with my friends playing everything from Mario Kart 64, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Wrestlemania 2000, WCW/NWO Revenge, Madden:D. We would have about 10-12 people all hanging out and having fun playing N64. Those were the good old days. I really miss November. :D
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Probally my Dreamcast by far. Never before did a single console I owned and tried offered this much Arcade support being I\'m huge into Racing and Sport games.
I don\'t think I will give Nintendo any credit other than starting with a game that has an Italian pasta boy jumping around levels and collecting stars.
jm
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It seems that a lot of Sega fans have mucho animosity towards Nintendo. Must be because Nintendo beat them in the hardware war anyway. :D
I wonder how you Sega guys feel about Sega games on GameCube. :D
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mines was defintely the playstation: all my favorite games like mgs, twisted metal 1 and 2 , silent hill 2, resident evil 2, gran turismo, tekken 3 oh it was awesome
2 fav super nintendo
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"It seems that a lot of Sega fans have mucho animosity towards Nintendo. Must be because Nintendo beat them in the hardware war anyway.
I wonder how you Sega guys feel about Sega games on GameCube. "
It seems that a lot of Nintendo fans have mucho animosity towards Sony. Must be because Sony beat them in the hardware war anyway.
I wonder how you Nintendo guys feel about many SNES franchises on PS and PS2.
Gimme a break. Genesis and SNES were almost equal during that age. And Saturn wasn\'t even competition for N64.
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Originally posted by Gohan
It seems that a lot of Sega fans have mucho animosity towards Nintendo. Must be because Nintendo beat them in the hardware war anyway. :D
I wonder how you Sega guys feel about Sega games on GameCube. :D
It isn\'t polite to try and cause arguements. Sega was an excellent hardware and software developer. And the Genesis did beat the Super NES during the 16 bit days. And I can count more good games for the Saturn then I can N64...Same applies with the DC.
They was just losing to much money due to a bad reputation with the 32x and sega cd.
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Number one was SNES for several years. I still play and buy games for it.
The DC is my current favorite and it\'s got the most games I\'ve ever bought for one system.
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Whoa I wasn\'t trying to start an argument. I was making an observation. I wasn\'t talking about the 16-bit generation. I was talking about overall. I was trying to get under their skin.............Well............I guess that could start an argument. My bad. :D
BTW, I love SEGA. Like I stated before I was just trying to get some guys a little riled up.
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Originally posted by Gohan
Whoa I wasn\'t trying to start an argument. I was making an observation. I wasn\'t talking about the 16-bit generation. I was talking about overall. I was trying to get under their skin.............Well............I guess that could start an argument. My bad. :D
BTW, I love SEGA. Like I stated before I was just trying to get some guys a little riled up.
Thats what I figured.:D
I didn\'t really care. Just figured you was going to get attacked and an arguement break out, in a perfectly good thread.
;)
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"Whoa I wasn\'t trying to start an argument. I was making an observation. I wasn\'t talking about the 16-bit generation. I was talking about overall. I was trying to get under their skin.............Well............I guess that could start an argument. My bad."
Okay, fine.
Please stop mentioning how Nintendo beat Sega. We have the same exact situation now with Sony. Back in the 8-bit days, if you didn\'t own an NES, you were an outcast. It was not hard for Nintendo to beat Sega.
Fast-forward to now. PS beat N64, easily. Why mention Sega losing to Nintendo during the 8-bit and handheld wars but failing to mention how humiliated they were during the 32/64 bit war?
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Originally posted by Gohan
It seems that a lot of Sega fans have mucho animosity towards Nintendo. Must be because Nintendo beat them in the hardware war anyway. :D
I wonder how you Sega guys feel about Sega games on GameCube. :D
I\'m psyched!!
I have always had the Sega and Nintendo consoles at the same time. I love both companies and can\'t wait to see what they can do together. Come October, good times, oh yes.
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Originally posted by Ashford
Please stop mentioning how Nintendo beat Sega. We have the same exact situation now with Sony. Back in the 8-bit days, if you didn\'t own an NES, you were an outcast. It was not hard for Nintendo to beat Sega.
Fast-forward to now. PS beat N64, easily. Why mention Sega losing to Nintendo during the 8-bit and handheld wars but failing to mention how humiliated they were during the 32/64 bit war?
I don\'t think Nintendo was humiliated in the 32/64 bit war. They didn\'t have Sony\'s sales but they did very well maintaining a solid second place. It is not like Nintendo lost money in the last generation. They made oodles.
I dig you on that Sony-Nintendo/Sega-Nintendo Situation. I had a Sega Master System and I was pissed because only one other person had one. That severely limits game trading capabilities. I had to get an NES just so I could get in all of the good games trading cliques. :D
But I still stand by my opinion that the SMS was one of the most innovative consoles ever. It had games built in, it never had a problem with dust(like the NES) and that card slot was the coolest thing ever. Way ahead of its time IMO. Do you guys remember blowing really hard into a NES game to get it to work? Or was that just a ghetto thang? *sniff**sniff* Memories. :D
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"Please stop mentioning how Nintendo beat Sega. We have the same exact situation now with Sony. Back in the 8-bit days, if you didn\'t own an NES, you were an outcast."
There\'s one big difference between the 8 and 32/128 bit generations. Nintnedo contracted all their third party developers so that they couldn\'t work on the more powerful Sega Master System. (Not sure if this was just in America or worldwide.. I heard the SMS beat the NES in Europe, but I\'m not sure if it\'s true).
This generation, Sony has been making sweetheart deals (Cough *Square* *EA* Cough) and may even be outright bribing some 3rd parties. But a bribe is just a bribe.. there\'s nothing legally holding those companies who could take Sony\'s money and deals, and develop for other consoles anyhow.
Now I\'m not trying to start an argument either, but I just can\'t help but wonder if Sega wouldn\'t be in the position they are now if it wasn\'t for Nintnedo\'s meddling in the 8bit era.
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God, how I hated the Nintendo hardware.
Load a cart, power on, see the vertical scrolling white screen, power down, take the cart out, blow across the ROM, re-load, re-power, see the vertical scrolling pea-soup screen, power down, blow harder until you spit, reload, see the actual game only to realize it\'s resetting itself over and over, power down, BLOW UNTIL YOUR CHEEKS TURNED RED, CURSING NINTENDO, then finally being able to play the game. Only problem is, now the game is severely pixelated and constantly dithering.
We had this solution. We took the pocket all the NES games in and jammed it in to hold the cart down. Worked when all else failed.
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Originally posted by Ashford
God, how I hated the Nintendo hardware.
Load a cart, power on, see the vertical scrolling white screen, power down, take the cart out, blow across the ROM, re-load, re-power, see the vertical scrolling pea-soup screen, power down, blow harder until you spit, reload, see the actual game only to realize it\'s resetting itself over and over, power down, BLOW UNTIL YOUR CHEEKS TURNED RED, CURSING NINTENDO, then finally being able to play the game. Only problem is, now the game is severely pixelated and constantly dithering.
We had this solution. We took the pocket all the NES games in and jammed it in to hold the cart down. Worked when all else failed.
Ahhh. Sweet memories. Thank you Ashford. I do remember spitting on the rom, but I don\'t know what your talking about with taking it out of the pocket? Please explain.
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Originally posted by Gohan
Originally posted by Ashford
Please stop mentioning how Nintendo beat Sega. We have the same exact situation now with Sony. Back in the 8-bit days, if you didn\'t own an NES, you were an outcast. It was not hard for Nintendo to beat Sega.
Fast-forward to now. PS beat N64, easily. Why mention Sega losing to Nintendo during the 8-bit and handheld wars but failing to mention how humiliated they were during the 32/64 bit war?
I don\'t think Nintendo was humiliated in the 32/64 bit war. They didn\'t have Sony\'s sales but they did very well maintaining a solid second place. It is not like Nintendo lost money in the last generation. They made oodles.
I dig you on that Sony-Nintendo/Sega-Nintendo Situation. I had a Sega Master System and I was pissed because only one other person had one. That severely limits game trading capabilities. I had to get an NES just so I could get in all of the good games trading cliques. :D
But I still stand by my opinion that the SMS was one of the most innovative consoles ever. It had games built in, it never had a problem with dust(like the NES) and that card slot was the coolest thing ever. Way ahead of its time IMO. Do you guys remember blowing really hard into a NES game to get it to work? Or was that just a ghetto thang? *sniff**sniff* Memories. :D [/B]
Don\'t remind me. I remember the blowing ordeal all the time. Was horrible.
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You know that black plastic case most NES carts came in? Not the box, the thing that holds the cartridge, the dust cover if you will.
Because you could keep the door of the cart slot open, we jammed the dust cover so the cart would stay down. Because of the spring action, the cart would come back up about a half inch when you loaded it. We discovered that keeping the cart down helped load the game. Maybe it was the spring that caused all those invalid boots.
T
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Still has his 1986 original SMS. Only problem I have ever had was not puting the cart in far enough and a screen that would tell me that I didnt do it right. It TELLS me, with text, not a green screen, or flashy black or what have you!! Hahaha! It seems, to me, that all the finest crafted machines dont sell as much as their opponents, with slight to incredible shoddy manufacturing.
SMS v. NES
Genesis v. SNES (SNES had a stronger construction)
PSX v Saturn (my original Saturn, neveroverheated or froze, ever!)
I\'m not saying that the manuafacturing was a part of the selling, I am just saying it is interesting.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Still has his 1986 original SMS. Only problem I have ever had was not puting the cart in far enough and a screen that would tell me that I didnt do it right. It TELLS me, with text, not a green screen, or flashy black or what have you!! Hahaha! It seems, to me, that all the finest crafted machines dont sell as much as their opponents, with slight to incredible shoddy manufacturing.
SMS v. NES
Genesis v. SNES (SNES had a stronger construction)
PSX v Saturn (my original Saturn, neveroverheated or froze, ever!)
I\'m not saying that the manuafacturing was a part of the selling, I am just saying it is interesting.
Eric Jacob
Why do you think the SNES had a stronger construction? I thought they were pretty equal. I agree with you for the most part though. What consoles do you think will suffer the same fate this generation?
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I back up Sega more than any other gaming company is because they didn\'t ruin their own software to humuliate their own rep, alias like Nintendo did. Sure, their Saturn and Sega CD might have not matched up to Sony PSX in the long run (I\'m leaving out N64 for a good reason), but hell, Sega OWNED the import scene. There were so many great games for the system, yet its hardware limited its sucess.
Dreamcast has yet to be the best offering from Sega ever, having sweet hardware that matched PS2\'s. Fast graphics processor, sound, tight controller and smash hit titles at release date. Why was Dremcast\'s sucess a faliure in a way? Perhaps it didn\'t release it soon enough to gain the attention, being PS2\'s release in Japan wasn\'t that much futher away. It scared marketing potiental since Sony built up so much rep for its PS2 and now look at it. Sony killed themself by not backing up as good quality software at launch as Sega did. Now PS2 hurt Sega\'s sales and now its just a sole software giant.
Nintendo is a joke ever since 94. Why may you ask? Delay, after delay, delay, delay. The many lies they told us, so many promises yet married by disapointing news. They controlled the minds of loyal people into believing Pokemon will transform gaming forever *insert laff here*. Perhaps its biggest shot in the foot came from its assumed arrival of its 64DD, promising extended space for games (Again resorted to cartridges), faster loading times, and ROM support. Guess what happened? CANCELED as to it was blown down by lack of support by retailers responce "We don\'t want to carry that product." Gee, 1.5yrs later, its released in Japan and boy what a failure. 3.0/10.0 rated by IGN.
And that\'s not all folks. 64DD wasn\'t the only mistake Nintendo made, it was also the fact of some hurt feelings of loyal developers being talked into cartridges again, when Sony was developing CD format games that a. costed less to manufactor and b. could hold more data. Now is that a joke or what? Being limited of 16/32/64MB cartridge space as opposed to 650MB worth of space on a cheap CD. HA!
Now the software. Who really thinks Pokemon, Banjo, Mario will revoultanize gaming from now on? If you think that, your wrong. It completly shows in Nintendo as a whole now, regreting it as a major mistake. Now Nintendo must play catch up to achieve that \'bab boy\' look like Sega/Sony has. *insert laff again*
I give credit to Nintendo supporting the age levels of 4-12 with acceptable games for them, but please, don\'t embarrasse yourselves in front of mature gamers above the age of 15 with your pittyness and marketing greed.
jm
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Originally posted by codemaster
I back up Sega more than any other gaming company is because they didn\'t ruin their own software to humuliate their own rep, alias like Nintendo did.
Please explain what you mean by this. How did Nintendo ruin their software?
Originally posted by codemaster
I give credit to Nintendo supporting the age levels of 4-12 with acceptable games for them, but please, don\'t embarrasse yourselves in front of mature gamers above the age of 15 with your pittyness and marketing greed.
You act like these companies make games for the fun of it. Pitiness is not a word. Marketing greed what the hell is marketing greed? The want to market their games more than anyone else? Make some sense please.
BTW, Please tell me what Sega has to do with the mature gaming market?
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Nintendo is a joke ever since 94. Why may you ask? Delay, after delay, delay, delay. The many lies they told us, so many promises yet married by disapointing news. They controlled the minds of loyal people into believing Pokemon will transform gaming forever *insert laff here*. Perhaps its biggest shot in the foot came from its assumed arrival of its 64DD, promising extended space for games (Again resorted to cartridges), faster loading times, and ROM support. Guess what happened? CANCELED as to it was blown down by lack of support by retailers responce "We don\'t want to carry that product." Gee, 1.5yrs later, its released in Japan and boy what a failure. 3.0/10.0 rated by IGN.
And that\'s not all folks. 64DD wasn\'t the only mistake Nintendo made, it was also the fact of some hurt feelings of loyal developers being talked into cartridges again, when Sony was developing CD format games that a. costed less to manufactor and b. could hold more data. Now is that a joke or what? Being limited of 16/32/64MB cartridge space as opposed to 650MB worth of space on a cheap CD. HA!
Now the software. Who really thinks Pokemon, Banjo, Mario will revoultanize gaming from now on? If you think that, your wrong. It completly shows in Nintendo as a whole now, regreting it as a major mistake. Now Nintendo must play catch up to achieve that \'bab boy\' look like Sega/Sony has. *insert laff again*
I give credit to Nintendo supporting the age levels of 4-12 with acceptable games for them, but please, don\'t embarrasse yourselves in front of mature gamers above the age of 15 with your pittyness and marketing greed.
And what did Sega promise codemaster? They were doing a very good job hyping up their SegaCD and 32X and lookie how they ended up-complete and horrible failures. Then came along the hardest to develop for Saturn...ah. That was another complete failure by Sega. This one probably was the worst of all of them.
Nintendo\'s promises were broken...
Sega\'s promises were broken...worse than Nintendo\'s too.
And you make it sound like Nintendo screwed up worse than Sega did. Kudos. It takes an intelligent person to pull that off so I\'ll give you some credit but most of what you posted was just your opinion, not fact.
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Please let me inform you that my above statement is my firm opinion, some mentioned points are facts like 64DD.
Nintendo making less promises than Sega? Oh please, give me a break. How many times has Nintendo 64 been delayed? It was a mere joke after ahwile of hearing Nintendo say "We are forced to released our product at a given date in the future" over and over and over again. It was just getting boring just hearing that statement over and over again. Unlike Sega, not having 1/3 of the delays N64 had. Was it a rushed product? No, just had *some* flaws in technology. Did it mean it was just put to death at that moment by the media? Hell no. Saturn had some quality games out for it, imports, and many other things that made up for its hardware.
Now please, when I say marketing greed, I mean when Nintendo shot themselves in the foot leering towards the age levels of \'kids\' they ruined their older audience by disapointing us with lackluster games. Duke Nukem, Quake, Doom, Quake II, Wargods, Mortal Kombat, all ports that just didn\'t live up in terms of gameplay. Then once Nintendo realizes that many older audience gamers are taking favor in Sony/Sega for offering some quality FPS games (could be RPG, racing, FPS just so happens to be a favorite), Nintendo feels it needs to build its rep back up again offering games for both audience levels. Thus coming to conclusion, this puts a big tag on Nintendo as \'poser\' and many times before has Nintendo blew their last shot to come back into the scene and failed at offering anything but crap for older audiences. Now, that\'s a poor image from a company like Nintendo. But yet again, was Nintendo known for killer FPS? RPG\'s? Racing? No. Its known for Zelda, Mario, Pokemon. Sony took flag with RPG\'s with its Final Fantasy series, racing with titles like Grand Tursmo, Need for Speed.
It all comes down to the developers who want to develop software for a given company. Simply too many companies were scared away by Nintendo by as I said, cartridges, limitation to hardware (the halarious texture space), sound and controller (to some extent). 64DD played a major role into N64\'s death as it was slated a Japan release in \'97 if I\'m not mistaken, having games that offered HUGE gameplay, great graphics, and exceeding N64\'s hardware limitations by adding more video ram. Guess what? Delay, delay, delay, then cancelled, oh then re-announaced and released. Failure! From the developers stand point, its both halarious and sad that Nintendo did this.
All I\'m saying is that I feel, from a gamer, Sega suceeded more as a whole in the gaming industry (this include their arcade\'s dominance) than Nintendo did. Sure it may not have started it all, but it sure did build apon a lot of aspects videogames have today.
jm
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Originally posted by codemaster
It all comes down to the developers who want to develop software for a given company. Simply too many companies were scared away by Nintendo by as I said, cartridges, limitation to hardware (the halarious texture space), sound and controller (to some extent). 64DD played a major role into N64\'s death as it was slated a Japan release in \'97 if I\'m not mistaken, having games that offered HUGE gameplay, great graphics, and exceeding N64\'s hardware limitations by adding more video ram. Guess what? Delay, delay, delay, then cancelled, oh then re-announaced and released. Failure! From the developers stand point, its both halarious and sad that Nintendo did this.
What scared the developers away from the DC then? If Sega is such an excellent company then why were none of the major developers trying to develop for it?
Originally posted by codemaster
All I\'m saying is that I feel, from a gamer, Sega suceeded more as a whole in the gaming industry (this include their arcade\'s dominance) than Nintendo did. Sure it may not have started it all, but it sure did build apon a lot of aspects videogames have today.
Sega has been in the red for so long its not even funny. That is not the sign of a succesful company. They may have made some excellent games and decent hardware but they are far from a success.
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Far from sucess? HA! Dude, who owns the arcade scene right now? Sega. Who\'s been known for some of the BEST arcade games EVER made. Sega. So don\'t go saying Sega is far from sucess. Sega damn well suceeded in the arcade industry.
Why didn\'t so many developers develop for Sega? Sega happens to be the strongest 1st party developer right now, next to Nintendo. It\'s known for developing some great games pushing its console to the limits in terms of graphics and gameplay quality. Plus aside with who has more developers, who has a bigger library in a shorter span? *cough*sega*cough*. Nintendo still has an extremly slim library of decent titles. Most of them, I may add happen to be targeted to the age levels of 4-12. Sure, people older than that find interest in it, but its targeted to that audience of people.
jm
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Far from sucess? HA! Dude, who owns the arcade scene right now? Sega. Who\'s been known for some of the BEST arcade games EVER made. Sega. So don\'t go saying Sega is far from sucess. Sega damn well suceeded in the arcade industry.
Success in the arcades...big deal. They\'ve been losing money for the fourth consecutive year now. I don\'t know anyone who would call that a success.
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damn, you guys have too much money or time on your hands to have had all of the systems. I only had Genesis and PSX and now PSX2, thats all. Dreamcast sucks a big one, and so did saturn.
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Originally posted by codemaster
Far from sucess? HA! Dude, who owns the arcade scene right now? Sega. Who\'s been known for some of the BEST arcade games EVER made. Sega. So don\'t go saying Sega is far from sucess. Sega damn well suceeded in the arcade industry.
I meant to say they are, meaning Sega. It has been changed.
Originally posted by codemaster
Why didn\'t so many developers develop for Sega? Sega happens to be the strongest 1st party developer right now, next to Nintendo. It\'s known for developing some great games pushing its console to the limits in terms of graphics and gameplay quality. Plus aside with who has more developers, who has a bigger library in a shorter span? *cough*sega*cough*. Nintendo still has an extremly slim library of decent titles. Most of them, I may add happen to be targeted to the age levels of 4-12. Sure, people older than that find interest in it, but its targeted to that audience of people.
What does this have to do with my question? You said that a lot of developers were scared away from the N64 because of all its problems. My question was what scared them away from the DC?
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Dreamcast sucks a big one
i guess mommy wouldnt buy him one for xmas
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why didnt they develop for DC? How could they when a GIGANTIC TRAIN of hype was barreling down towards them in the name of PS2. How could they support a system basically destined for failure as the media would have put it. That is enough to scare anyone off. But, no, Capcom stayed on, they are one of the best 3rd parties. Maybe because Capcom can see through the BS and can develop a good game for anyone. They develop the games that fit the systems. It will probably be a while til we see a 2D fighter on PS2. Why? People who own PS2\'s just aren\'t as old as peole who own DC. period. older people (or hardcore gamers) know what it was like to play 2D fighters in the arcades when they were new, now, today they still purcahse SF3, MvC2, and SNK v C.
Nintendo was highly respeceted after they got beat by Sega in the 16 bit war. They kinda humbled themselves by tryng to be so high and mighty with their monopoly tactics, but Sega proved, maybe for once, that better games sell the systems. Then they released pokemon in America and once again got big-headed. THat is the reason that there is no way in heck of GC beating PS2 or even X-Box IMO.
Nintendo puts far too many restrictions on developers and won\'t let them have the enviroment they all want, a free one. Sega let\'s third parties be free, Sony does to some extent, and O am betting Microsoft will be glad to let anyone release basically anything.
I expect Nintendo to go third party next gen or one after next, basically because trhey can\'t innovate and can\'t keep anything straight.
Hype killed the DC. ****yness will kill the GC. Freshman-itis will kill the X-Box.
Eric Jacob
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Put it this way. Was Dreamcast flawed by any technology features? No, it was just bad timing. Had this been released 1 year after Nintendo 64, it would storm gaming forever. Nintendo had technology flaws as I stated. Dreamcast didn\'t.
jm
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Hype killed the DC. ****yness will kill the GC. Freshman-itis will kill the X-Box.
You are doing the same thing that almost everyone did with the DC. They wrote it off as a peice of crap. You have never even touched a GC or X-Box, but for some reason you know they will fail. That statement alone leaves your argument null and void. You are a hypocrite. The same person who was *****ing about people calling the DC a peice of crap without playing it, is doing the same thing with the XBox and GCN.
Originally posted by codemaster
Put it this way. Was Dreamcast flawed by any technology features? No, it was just bad timing. Had this been released 1 year after Nintendo 64, it would storm gaming forever. Nintendo had technology flaws as I stated. Dreamcast didn\'t.
You still didn\'t answer my question:D but I agree with you.
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Originally posted by mm
Dreamcast sucks a big one
i guess mommy wouldnt buy him one for xmas [/B]
Guess not. Maybe we should all pitch in and enlighten him...;)
Still, PS2 hype killed the DC. Everyone was going on and on about how the PS2 was going to come out with the best games ever and they\'d be soooo much above the DC. Yeah, Sega had been loosing money for awhile, due to some bad marketing choices. But, if you look at Nintendo they are heading down the same path.
Failed systems.
Virtual boy.
64DD.
So many delays on the N64 it wasn\'t even funny.
The bad choice of cartridges which limited the N64 severly!
The N64 was hardly worth buying except for a handful of games. Original titles? Yeah, right. They are depending on classic franchises alone now. In my opinion, Nintendo will end up being a handheld maker only after this generation, unless they can pull some magic tricks.
It is pretty sad actually. One classic company gone (Sega). Nintendo looking to be the next (in my opinion).
I agree with almost everyone in this thread though. Espically the comment that DC gamers for the most part was older and more "hardcore". They remember the classic platform games and 2D. They don\'t require fancy 3D graphics for the most part. Where as, it seems the PS2 is as "mainstream" as a console can get. Which means, whatever is popular at the moment, is what will be on the system. Its a good idea, I think its just an obvious difference in status and userbase.
I can\'t say the GC will fail. I don\'t think it will make a dent in the market with the Xbox and PS2 competing. If it comes out right before the Xbox, it is going to be horrible timing. Wedged in bewteen the PS2 relaunch and the Xbox offical launch. That cannot be good for GC sales.
By the way, Altered. You mention letting third party developers do what they want. You are right, to an extent. Sega did, but they also had decent quality control. The PS didn\'t. For every good game, there was 10 horrible ones for it. Need proof? Look at the $10 dollar titles that are flooding the store shelfs right now. Hopefully MS will do what Sega did. Give freedom to developers, but also enforce quality.
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Your answer regarding the developers of Sega Dreamcast? I told you, Sega happens to be the #1 company in 1st party support for quality games. What has sony developed in house that was ground breaking? If so, did it ever match up to the number of classic, best selling Sega games? I doubt it. I really do. You don\'t call yourself a hardcore gamer unless you tried each console and playing more than 1 game for it. Some people have to see behond what the media claims. Sure, Nintendo 64 was slammed before release, did that push me away from buying one? No, I found myself dissapointed being an owner for no more than 3 months. Goldeneye was probally my biggest thriller, everything else just stunk. My Rush series canned by bland textures, crap-o fighers, less than steller sport games. My dreamcast offered what I want that happened to be favored by the media.
I put it this way. If it has my games on that system and play to my expecatations, I could really care less about what the media claims it to be, because it their opinion. Unless by some chance do I review a console before buying they supply satastics of public polls and I try it and I agree are the media correct.
Either way, Sega/Nintendo/Sony aren\'t without its flaws. At least Sega ended its show before someone else did it for them.
jm
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But, if you look at Nintendo they are heading down the same path.
What you talking about Willis???
Nintendo is ****ing rich. Some people still don\'t understand this simple concept. They have enough money to survive for a long time.
Also,N64 made them money. Overall, they didn\'t lose anything off of the N64, they gained. And they gained a ****load more off of the GBC. Don\'t say pokemon, say their franchises. Their franchises made them A LOT of money. Mario made them the most for the N64, then Zelda then Pokemon(I\'m talking about the n64 here).
Does it look like GBA is going to fail? It already has 3 million pre-orders in Japan.
As for GameCube, I don\'t see how it can NOT be a major success. The N64 was a terrible piece of technology and yet it sold over 35 million units .The GameCube is a revolutionary piece of technology so who saying it won\'t do just as good? They have more second and third parties now too. I\'m not saying GameCube will win the console wars, I\'m saying it will be successful, very successful. That\'s obvious.
IMO, I doubt Nintendo will EVER become a third-party.
I don\'t think it will make a dent in the market with the Xbox and PS2 competing. If it comes out right before the Xbox, it is going to be horrible timing. Wedged in bewteen the PS2 relaunch and the Xbox offical launch. That cannot be good for GC sales.
Uh huh. I thought GameCube was aimed at the younger audience? If that is true then it means that PS2 and Xbox won\'t effect it\'s sales. :rolleyes:
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best console...ummm, psx,... FF, MGS, Tekken , GT2, Re tell it all!
and dc recieves credit for being the best console with the shortest life time!
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my favorite old school is nintendo and my favorite new is psx no system has as good of games as psx
and dreamcast is probably my least favorite i mean you dont have to look any farther than the crappy games
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Originally posted by Bozco
my favorite old school is nintendo and my favorite new is psx no system has as good of games as psx
and dreamcast is probably my least favorite i mean you dont have to look any farther than the crappy games
Yeah I know it.....
Sonic Adventure, PSO, Virtua Fighter 3, Virtua Tennis, Resident Evil Code Veronica, Capcom VS SNK, Marvel Vs Capcom 2, Shenmue, Grandia 2, Skies of Arcadia, Soul Calibur, etc was really crappy games man...
:rolleyes:
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hey Bozco that was a very stupid to say, DC has as many (if not more) great games than psx. For only 2 years it has over 30 excelent titles.
These games worth the Dc, and they are not on other gaming consoles
Soul caliber
PSO
NFL2k1
Crazy taxi (still DC exculusive)
Sonic adventure
grandia II
Skies of arcadia
Shenmue
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Originally posted by Bozco
my favorite old school is nintendo and my favorite new is psx no system has as good of games as psx
and dreamcast is probably my least favorite i mean you dont have to look any farther than the crappy games
Soon, we\'ll be seeing more crappy games on your fave console.
Hmm, with more power, would that make Sega games on PS2 extra crappy?
Resident Evil CODE: Veronica - really crappy non-Sega game, but only until the PS2 version arrives, then it will be extra crappy
Soul Calibur - regarded as one of the DC\'s crappiest non-Sega games, the sequel on PS2 should be extra crappy
Unreal Tournament - crappy DC version includes crappy online play, PS2 version lets you play with yourself
My sig is just perfect for you.
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Originally posted by Ashford
Soon, we\'ll be seeing more crappy games on your fave console.
Hmm, with more power, would that make Sega games on PS2 extra crappy?
Resident Evil CODE: Veronica - really crappy non-Sega game, but only until the PS2 version arrives, then it will be extra crappy
Soul Calibur - regarded as one of the DC\'s crappiest non-Sega games, the sequel on PS2 should be extra crappy
Unreal Tournament - crappy DC version includes crappy online play, PS2 version lets you play with yourself
My sig is just perfect for you.
:D
You forgot Quake 3 Arena also man. I mean Sega\'s version allowed you to play online, but the PS2 won\'t ...So, look no further for your "crappy games". Or Crazy Taxi--originally on the DC, coming to the PS2..Ut oh! Another one of those damn crappy games..And how about that Virtua Fighter 4?
hahaha..
;)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
:D
You forgot Quake 3 Arena also man. I mean Sega\'s version allowed you to play online, but the PS2 won\'t ...So, look no further for your "crappy games". Or Crazy Taxi--originally on the DC, coming to the PS2..Ut oh! Another one of those damn crappy games..And how about that Virtua Fighter 4?
hahaha..
;)
The PS2 is gonna be overflowing with crap. Sega-quality crap. The crappiest crap that ever crapped a crap.