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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Nplayer-2 on February 21, 2001, 06:26:37 PM
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40 ****N GIGS???....what the **** will need that much space?.....
it destroys ****s and spits on the xbox HDD:D
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Originally posted by Nplayer-2
http://www.coremagazine.com/news/3741.php3
40 ****N GIGS???....what the **** will need that much space?.....
it destroys ****s and spits on the xbox HDD:D
Hmm. Not sure why we need 40 gigs. So, the price will be around $100-150 I imagine. Just speculation.
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40gis ethernet plus a good brand? for 150$ it\'s a pretty damn good deal...
find me a high quality HDD with ethernet like the PS2 version for less than 150$...i want to see that.
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If that bundle costs anything over $100 it will not sell very well at all. It will have to come bundled with a game that makes use of its capabilities and be priced around $60-$70.
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i think verent and lucasArts will have some on-line games for the playstation2 by early 2002 and beyond...as will sony them selfs and many other developers...
give me a on-line starwars game...i don\'t care what i have to pay i\'ll buy one.
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I\'m sure there will be a few Blockbuster type PS2 online titles that SOny will use to push the HDD and online broadband capabilities of its machine
Still I won\'t be picking up a HDD till the must have titles appear.
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i am looking foward to the HDD and all but i am not looking foward to paying that much money for it
i mean i have spent enough on acessories and games much less that much for something else
i hope they can figure a way to make it cheaper or soemthing
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I don\'t believe you guys.
a 40 gig HDD for $150 that is a damn good price. how much would you have to pay for a PC hdd of that capacity? It also comes with ethernet.
I know i will be buying one, but if i were you guys i wouldn\'t hold my breath for it going down to the price of $70. :D
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Originally posted by *)PhoeniX(*
I don\'t believe you guys.
a 40 gig HDD for $150 that is a damn good price. how much would you have to pay for a PC hdd of that capacity? It also comes with ethernet.
I know i will be buying one, but if i were you guys i wouldn\'t hold my breath for it going down to the price of $70. :D
It doesnt matter if its a 300 gig drive, $150 for a the ability to play a few extra games with better textures, is too much. Oh, and 40 gigs of HD space would cost you around 50 dollars less. I\'m not buying it unless it hits $50.
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40 gigs? wow it´s very much!! and the price?
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£100 and over is very expensive for a console\'s HD add on.
Consoles are supposed to be cheap while offering the best.
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$150 for a HD yes, is a good price. But the problem is, this is an add-on to a $300 dollar CONSOLE system. If it was around $50-$75 dollars it would be easier to sell. Sony better have some "must-have" titles that REQUIRE the HD.
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If Sony made some games REQUIRE the HDD then it would discourage many people. Besides, it will sell fine if Sony offers it for free when you sign up for their online network.
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Sweet...:D I don\'t know why, but my 21-year-old brother must really love me. Every time I see something I want for the PS2, my brother takes me to the store and buys it for me!!!...:) He got me a $300 Sony Vaio MP3 pen for Christmas. I don\'t know why he spends so much money on me. He be stinkin\' rich though, so I guess that he has to do something with his money...
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
If Sony made some games REQUIRE the HDD then it would discourage many people. Besides, it will sell fine if Sony offers it for free when you sign up for their online network.
If they don\'t put out enough HD and sell them like hotcakes it discourages developers also. So, they have to work an even ground in bewteen it all.
The best way to hit that even ground was a cheap price, which would sell them easier.
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Yeah. I\'ll buy one anyway.
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
If Sony made some games REQUIRE the HDD then it would discourage many people. Besides, it will sell fine if Sony offers it for free when you sign up for their online network.
Why would I sign up for their online network if I already have a broadband connection?
I am seariously starting to think that if i buy this thing I\'m going to come home, open up the box and see a 32X logo with a sony sticker over top of it. I hope Sony doesnt get careless because of their jealousy toward MS and how they included a HD. If they do it right it could be great, but if they screw up it could kill Sony just like the same mistake killed Sega.
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yea but what sega did with the 32x and what sony is doing with the HDD are two different things...
for one the reason you need to sign up to their netowrk is so you can become a member and play online - just like some PC online games require a monthly fee - EverQuest as an example
trust me Sony knows what they are doing
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I like raisens
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Why would I sign up for their online network if I already have a broadband connection?
I am seariously starting to think that if i buy this thing I\'m going to come home, open up the box and see a 32X logo with a sony sticker over top of it. I hope Sony doesnt get careless because of their jealousy toward MS and how they included a HD. If they do it right it could be great, but if they screw up it could kill Sony just like the same mistake killed Sega
of course you\'ll have to pay extra to use PS2 online...the connection is from a partnership with Sony,Sega and Namco,so you know the setup will be well worth everything in the end. i have no problem paying for an extra i.s.p. to be able to play PS2 games that way,i don\'t expect it to be setup like a pc,they are both different beasts. there is no way the HD will go the way of the 32X,i\'ll bet anyone any amount of money on that! first it would have have to be void of support,not going to happen (especially now that Sega and Namco are behind the online project) and second people will have to not want to pay for it,Sony can practically give it away with a game bundle and an internet deal,it will be nearly as desirable as the PS2 itself during the time of it\'s release if they plug it with a highly desired game and possible other software use.
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There is NO WAY I\'m going to pay $10 a month to play a PS2 game online. Sega only charged you if you used their ISP, not just to play. Sony is screwed if they are going to force people to pay to play.
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Originally posted by Sublimesjg
yea but what sega did with the 32x and what sony is doing with the HDD are two different things...
for one the reason you need to sign up to their netowrk is so you can become a member and play online - just like some PC online games require a monthly fee - EverQuest as an example
trust me Sony knows what they are doing
Ps2 = $300
Broadband = $50 (I speculate)
HD = $100-150 (I imagine)
online play = $20 or so?
Thats more then the average console player will spend on a console.
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Yeah thats Bullsh1t. I can see if its a MMORPG. But paying for an extra ISP to play Madden seems like a kick in the ass from a company saying, "We can and WILL do whatever we want because no-one can stop us."
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don\'t say no-one!!!!
you\'re just inviting him!
Seems to me Living-In-Clip that you don\'t want it to succeed...
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NO WAY IN HELL the PS2\'s HDD/Ethernet adapter cost over $100
if it does its a failure
Sony will make there money from online advertising. I wouldn\'t be surprised if the PS2 automaically takes you to a SOny home page full of links and advertising, and as you move from game server to server there will be more advertising. Your loading screens will be brought to you by Pepsi
Sony can\'t afford to sell the HDD/ethernet for much at all, Sony knows add-ons fail, and expensive add-ons defiently fail
Expect Sony do something to offset the costs because they have much much bigger plans for online then just games which will make SOny even more money in the long run, so why stick the knife in and throw away all that major money making potential by selling the necessary equipment for way more than the majority of casual gamers would even think about spending
I would also think your local ISP would be fine, cause having a seperate ISP for your PS2 and your PC would also price it outta reach of the majority of casual owners. Only the diehards would HAVE TO have online capabilities for that kinda scratch. I would think you\'d connect through your local ISP but the PS2 Browser will automatically take your too the SOny PS2 homepage
Online subscriptions for games might be offset by being able to pick up Online games for $10 and paying $5 a month to play them or something.
Somehow all those online gaming servers need to be paid for or need to make a revenue, advertising may pay the bills then again it might not
I hope we can connest directly to ISP addresses of our buddies
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Hopefully they\'ll offer smaller hard drive sizes. A 6 to 10 gig hard drive will work quite fine for me.
Later,
Infected
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Originally posted by Infected
Hopefully they\'ll offer smaller hard drive sizes. A 6 to 10 gig hard drive will work quite fine for me.
Later,
Infected
That would be very cool. Maybe after the HDD is released after a while, a smaller version will come out. I don\'t need 40 gigs, but I\'ll still buy it! 40 gigs is more than in my computer right now! :)
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Originally posted by Infected
Hopefully they\'ll offer smaller hard drive sizes. A 6 to 10 gig hard drive will work quite fine for me.
Later,
Infected
I\'m re-posting this cause I\'m convinced the PS2\'s HD/ethernet adapter won\'t be that expensive
Originally posted by ddaryl
NO WAY IN HELL the PS2\'s HDD/Ethernet adapter cost over $100
if it does its a failure
Sony will make there money from online advertising. I wouldn\'t be surprised if the PS2 automaically takes you to a SOny home page full of links and advertising, and as you move from game server to server there will be more advertising. Your loading screens will be brought to you by Pepsi
Sony can\'t afford to sell the HDD/ethernet for much at all, Sony knows add-ons fail, and expensive add-ons defiently fail
Expect Sony do something to offset the costs because they have much much bigger plans for online then just games which will make SOny even more money in the long run, so why stick the knife in and throw away all that major money making potential by selling the necessary equipment for way more than the majority of casual gamers would even think about spending
I would also think your local ISP would be fine, cause having a seperate ISP for your PS2 and your PC would also price it outta reach of the majority of casual owners. Only the diehards would HAVE TO have online capabilities for that kinda scratch. I would think you\'d connect through your local ISP but the PS2 Browser will automatically take your too the SOny PS2 homepage
Online subscriptions for games might be offset by being able to pick up Online games for $10 and paying $5 a month to play them or something.
Somehow all those online gaming servers need to be paid for or need to make a revenue, advertising may pay the bills then again it might not
I hope we can connest directly to ISP addresses of our buddies
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i agree with ddayrl.
making the internet bundle very expencive would hurt sales.
if you can buy the x box for about $300 (rumored) with hardrive and stuff at launch, in order to make the ps2 competitive, sony would have to drop that in for about $100, so sont cant afford to have it very expencive. gamers like us will buy itanyways, but for it to appeal to the general public, it has to be cheap and useful... they should downsize it to make it more effective, at least to 30 gig..
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Wait so everyone is sayin that the Bundle will be from around 100-150... but then we still have to pay monthly for it rite?
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Please read my rant
I don\'t think it will cost more than $50 for reasons I stated above.
Sony wants to provide lots of online content to PS2 owners. Not only games !!!!!!. Sony plans on making its money in other places and will sell the HD/Ethernet bundle at a loss just like the PS2 and make it back from online content. Sony has to know the add on will fail to reach casual consumers if it costs more than a game.
How many people here would pay for a BB ISP for there PC and another through SOny for there PS2. I won\'t, and I\'m sure most family households will have to say no to this extra expense as well. And since SOny wants to porvide lots and lots of online content beyond just games to PS2 owners it will have to caefully think about this strategy as well.
If SOny can provide BB Internet service to my PC as well as my PS2 then and only then will I purchase the Sony\'s BB service, unless its dirt cheap
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So no one knows yet if its gonna be an extra monthly fee?
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no pne knows all speculation
Ther is so much to consider
a.) Most casual gamers have and ISP for there PC and don\'t want another ISP bill to add to there monthly budget
b.) SOny has huge plans for online gaming and so much other broadband content. Its part of Sony\'s future and they are investing HEAVILY INTO IT. This is why we have read about 10 - 20 different partnerships by SOny and other online/imnterent companies etc...
c.) Since SOny sees a big future in online content it has to find away to make it very attractive to casual gamers and PS2 owners in general. If we\'re paying $100+ for the HD/Ethernet card, $35+ a months for Sony BB ISP, and then paying to download movies and music and all the other stuff. You know its going to fail.
So how SOny get the HD/Ethernet card into the majority of PS2 owners expansion bays, Gets them hooked up conveniently and affordably is still a mystery, but SOny has to have a big plan, one that makes the whole package conveinent and very affordable or else forget about it
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Does anyone remember when that guy a little while ago made a post saying the the HDD would be 300 MB?
I guess he was way off.
Oh yeah, I agree with Ddaryl.