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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: mm on February 24, 2001, 08:08:45 PM
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someone hand nintendo a f\'n clue
http://www.conker.com/bfd/hardcore_footage/uncensored.html
um, if yer not 17, nintendo doesnt think yer old enough to view that content
Conker\'s Bad Fur Day will be available March 5, for a Manufacturer\'s Suggested Retail Price of $69.95*.
:rolleyes:
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Good god, $70 bones? There are very few games that I will drop seventy dollars on, and that\'s not going to be one of them. I\'ll rent it to see what the fuss is about.
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$69.95
Now thats value :rolleyes:
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How come the trailer isn\'t working?
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If you want to watch the trailer you must pay $19.95
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hehehe
well, if that was Aust. dollars, that would be pretty good value
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70? Holy crap! N64 UNITS are retailing for about 100 anymore. [sarcasm]SUUUURRRRRReeeeeee, Nintnedo has learned their lesson. They would never try to sell NGC games for a 100 bucks a pop to offset their debt incured by a low console price. They just know the market too well to even think that it doesn\'t matter how expencive games are, as long the console is cheap.[/Sarcasm] :rolleyes:
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In australia.. M = 15 and over... R, X and XXX = 18 and over.
ohh and were allowed to drive and drink (not at the same time) after the age of 18.. :D
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Nintendo\'s all about them dolla\'s ( or I guess "them yen" ).
I said it more than once that when GCube comes out the games will be the most expensive thing on the market. NEO-GEO, remember that crap? $100 games. They probably won\'t be that high, but you can bet this $70 sh!t is just a sign of things to come. Yamachui (sp?) is working on his retirement fund.
This game might be funny first time you play it but I can say sh!t all day long and I don\'t have to pay $70 to do it.
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I went there and I can\'t think about conker anymore because he was a racer for DKR, *sob sob sob* I not going to rent it. No way!
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how can nintendo call this game mature. The blood looks like tomato sauce and the characters look kinddy. Nintendo doesn\'t see that a game doesn\'t become mature when you add blood to it. C\'mon nintendo deliver us a cool KI3 or racing game. Not this fake so called mature crap
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Hey I checked those links MM, and they all say $59.99
Metal_Gear_Ray, I hear you. Everything they make looks like a freking Sunday paper comic. After 5-6 years that gets old.
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"how can nintendo call this game mature. The blood looks like tomato sauce and the characters look kinddy."
Nintnedo isn\'t calling this game mature, the ESRB is. I just got done seeing the videos, and I gotta agree with the rating. This is something that shouldn\'t be in kids hands. I know that my nonexistant kids would never play this if I had any say in it. Lemmie tell you.. there\'s going to be a LOT of PISSSED off parents out there when this game is released. Kinda makes you wonder if this was the right way for Nintnedo to go about gaining a more mature market. I mean, what PTA member isn\'t going to vomit in horror at seeing a cartoony cow **** a mountain as she\'s bent over a toilet cussing and screaming.
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I wanted to d/l the videos too, ut they wouldn\'t work, how can i get them to work?
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Yeah SonyFan, but that\'s the point of the rating. Don\'t like it, don\'t buy it. You can\'t please everyone and someone will always b!tch no matter what. The ESRB would slap an M rating on anything decent. That\'s why you see so many of the "M" games on PC. It\'s an older market.
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I don\'t see how you can care about the graphics style. Yes, it would have been nice to see something along the lines of Fear Effect 2, but just because the graphics are cartoony dosen\'t mean the game is kiddy or sucks. It\'s the content, and how it\'s presented to the player that matters. Example: The reigning king of softporn games, LSL, is a great title and loads of fun, but it\'s a cartoon as well.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcatz.hispeed.com%2Flsl%2Fpictures%2Flsl7%2Fgirls%2FVicki2Low.jpg&hash=58af7e51ead7497d8f11fd8a5d22a54e84143b37)
BTW: Where\'s Dildo was a great minigame. :D
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcatz.hispeed.com%2Flsl%2Fpictures%2Flsl7%2Fcoc%2Fcast722.gif&hash=83d7671e306347cbfb3b824e5fc73d39f604b872)
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sony fan how cna i d/l the trailer and other movieS?
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Do you have QT installed on your computer? If you do, then it should be no different than viewing movies off of IGN.
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I have it downloaded but it still not working
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I don\'t know what to tell you then. The site crashed my computer twice now, so I ain\'t going back. Sorry bud.
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This game is not worth it either. I have played it, first hand for about 2 hours straight. My friend works at Babbages and we are allowed to check out the games. The voices are bad and very british, which makes them hard to hear and understand, the control is iffy, especially witht hte asanine N64 controller. The humor is still kiddy,such as the monster you have to feed prune juice to. The swearing in the game HAS been censored. They block out alot of the really bad stuff, allow some of it, and change others, like F*ck is now Feck.
not that good in my opinion. Rent first is all I gotta tell you.
Eric Jacob
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well what do you expect though nintendo doesn\'t do M games much and when they do they do them for kids still in a way
they can\'t help it - thats all they think about :D
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Can I remind everyone that RARE, not Nintendo, made this games. Yes Rare the british developer.
At ebworld.com (http://www.ebworld.com/ebx/categories/products/product.asp?pf_id=182839) they have the price at 59.99 where did the 69.99 come from?
BTW, I agree with SonyFan, There is no difference between Mickey Mouse saying, "F*CK OFF C*NT" and Solid Snake saying the same. They are both not for kids.
P.S. Thanks for the LSL reference. That was a great game. :D
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Originally posted by mm
someone hand nintendo a f\'n clue
http://www.conker.com/bfd/hardcore_footage/uncensored.html
um, if yer not 17, nintendo doesnt think yer old enough to view that content
Conker\'s Bad Fur Day will be available March 5, for a Manufacturer\'s Suggested Retail Price of $69.95*.
:rolleyes:
I wouldn\'t let my kid play it.
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Dammit I was gonna get this game. GET IT WHILE YOU CAN! This means it will be VERY VERY limited.
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Originally posted by mm
someone hand nintendo a f\'n clue
http://www.conker.com/bfd/hardcore_footage/uncensored.html
um, if yer not 17, nintendo doesnt think yer old enough to view that content
Nintendo is just covering all the bases. If some crazy a$$ parent complains about the content, Nintendo says "It was rated M for Mature, why did you let your kid buy it?" It doesn\'t necessarily mean that Nintendo thinks that kids can\'t handle the material.
Does anyone else understand what I am saying?
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I understand. Besides, the ESRB rates the games, not Nintendo. Nintendo is just exploiting the rating.
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Relax peoples, that\'s recommended price.
EB has it for $59.99 just like every other N64 game.
Now let your silly "I\'m too mature" attitude slip away and enjoy this thing...
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enjoy it? bah
i wouldnt pay 5$ for this crap
again, nintendo = desperate to try and regain to demographic of gamers that made them the comany they are. they alienated the "older" crowd by releasing kiddie game after kiddie game, after kiddie game. i got a hint for nintendo, tho
ITS TOO LATE!
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It\'s too late and you kept us waiting a long long long time for Perfect Dark too.
ah well , we still love them for some of the Non Kiddie games that where released
like
Golden eye
Perfect Dark
ermmm
Operiation Winback
Quake 2
is there any more Adult titles othere than these ?
Zelda was great but i was to kiddy in places, so we cant count that one.
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007, sorry none of those titles are made by Nintendo. They just dont make adult geared games.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
They just dont make adult geared games.
Not many developers do. True a lot of them make games with characters that do not look like cartoons, but not many of them are adult geared.
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Originally posted by mm
enjoy it? bah
i wouldnt pay 5$ for this crap
again, nintendo = desperate to try and regain to demographic of gamers that made them the comany they are. they alienated the "older" crowd by releasing kiddie game after kiddie game, after kiddie game. i got a hint for nintendo, tho
ITS TOO LATE!
Again, it\'s Rare, not Nintendo.
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Why are we making fun of a Rare game when this is a PS2 forum?
Anyways,lookie what I found!
http://nintendonation.efront.com/nintendohacked.htm
LOL!
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damn im only 16 so i couldnt get into the site
:shy:
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Originally posted by mm
enjoy it? bah
i wouldnt pay 5$ for this crap
again, nintendo = desperate to try and regain to demographic of gamers that made them the comany they are. they alienated the "older" crowd by releasing kiddie game after kiddie game, after kiddie game. i got a hint for nintendo, tho
ITS TOO LATE!
Nor would I. Hell, even $60 dollars is to much for this game. Its a simple matter of a "kiddie" game with so called "adult" themes thrown in, for Nintendo can rave about how they made a mature platform game.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Nor would I. Hell, even $60 dollars is to much for this game. Its a simple matter of a "kiddie" game with so called "adult" themes thrown in, for Nintendo can rave about how they made a mature platform game.
And that\'s the irony of this game, from the videos I\'ve seen and the asinine advertising campaign on Canadian TV, CBFD is more immature than mature. Swearing, and plain rudeness for simple shock value aren\'t examples of mature subject matter. I\'m sure it will go down well with the 8-12 year olds ("oooh, he said a naughty word!"), but Nintendo have always excelled in that market.
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I wouldn\'t expect this from you. This game isn\'t from Nintendo. It is from Rare. You sound like you have some type of hatred towards Nintendo, but I\'m a little bit tired right now so I may be wrong. This goes to everyone *Cough*MM*Cough* too. If you want a mature game on a Nintendo console, just wait for Too Human (GC) or Eternal Darkness (N64 or GC) from Silicon Knights. After all, that is why Nintendo got Silicon Knights. Hopefully, third parties will follow in suit, but we won\'t know until E3 at the earliest.
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Originally posted by Lavan
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Nor would I. Hell, even $60 dollars is to much for this game. Its a simple matter of a "kiddie" game with so called "adult" themes thrown in, for Nintendo can rave about how they made a mature platform game.
And that\'s the irony of this game, from the videos I\'ve seen and the asinine advertising campaign on Canadian TV, CBFD is more immature than mature. Swearing, and plain rudeness for simple shock value aren\'t examples of mature subject matter. I\'m sure it will go down well with the 8-12 year olds ("oooh, he said a naughty word!"), but Nintendo have always excelled in that market. [/B]
We won\'t know anything until the game comes out.
It could be a million seller, or it could sell 5 copies.
You never know until it happens.
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Don\'t hold your breath for Nintendo to make any mature games. But that\'s not to say that the Gamecube won\'t have any mature games. Its the 3rd parties like Silicon Knights, Konami, Capcom, and many others that will bring the mature games. Also, if Square and Enix join on, that will be even more mature games. Sony doesn\'t make ANY good gmaes. The mature games (and practically everything else) is coming from the 3rd parties. I don\'t see why its important for Nintendo to make mature games. As long as the Gamecube has mature games from somebody its OK with me.
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elase, thats my point. i DO hate nintendo. i hate them with a fierce passion. they disowned me. they tryed to shove pokemon down my throat.
if it wasnt for rare and pokemon, nintendo would be bankrupt. end of story
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So when did Nintendo go bad(attitude)?
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delaying the N64 for years, going with carts for the N64, ripping us off with rumble paks and ram upgrades, not realesing the 64dd, pissing squaresoft off, making controllers that would give me carple tunnel syndrome, alienating any gamer older than 14, etc etc
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Originally posted by ElAsesino
I wouldn\'t expect this from you. This game isn\'t from Nintendo. It is from Rare. You sound like you have some type of hatred towards Nintendo, but I\'m a little bit tired right now so I may be wrong. This goes to everyone *Cough*MM*Cough* too. If you want a mature game on a Nintendo console, just wait for Too Human (GC) or Eternal Darkness (N64 or GC) from Silicon Knights. After all, that is why Nintendo got Silicon Knights. Hopefully, third parties will follow in suit, but we won\'t know until E3 at the earliest.
Hate them? No. I\'ve constantly said I will buy a GC and GBA. So there is no way I can hate them. Do I think they make some stupid moves? Yep. Yes, Rare made this game. I know that. But, from the looks of it, all it is , is a few "mature" themes in a platform game. And while the actual gameplay my be fine. Lets face it, how long can someone be amused by potty humor and "shock" value before they get annoyed? They expect someone to pay $60 for this? If I want to spend $60 dollars on potty humor I\'ll rent the SouthPark movie, and have money left over to get Rayman 2 for the N64 or something else.
I\'ll rent it just to see it. But I won\'t even consider buying it. $60 dollars is outrageous. Once again, another fault of the Cartridge format. Bright side of the GC and the mini-disc, unless for some un-fathomable reason Nintendo decides to charge out of the ass for those also.
And MM, count your lucky stars that they didn\'t release the 64DD in America. It was a diaster by all counts. Nintendo knew it would just damage them more if they released it anywhere, \'cept Japan.
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i wonder what my job is going to have me to do ? if a kid asked me can he get conkers..have me ask for ID ? do they have their parents with them ? its going to suck..
"Excuse me, you have ID on you ?"
"SORRY !, cant sell it to you, your too young little buddy"
"Want Conkers ? have ID ?"
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LMAO! Everyone, go to that web site and check out the commercials! Their fricken hilarious! IMO, this game is definately not for kids and it obviously not aimed at kids.
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Originally posted by mm
not realesing the 64dd,
You should be glad the 64dd didn\'t make it over here, it\'s pretty worthless outside the cool F-Zero construction kit. Nintendo made a wise choice to not release a system they knew was outdated. If Sega could have had the same foresight with the SegaCD and the 32x, they might be a little more financially viable these days.
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Originally posted by Aaron
Originally posted by mm
not realesing the 64dd,
You should be glad the 64dd didn\'t make it over here, it\'s pretty worthless outside the cool F-Zero construction kit. Nintendo made a wise choice to not release a system they knew was outdated. If Sega could have had the same foresight with the SegaCD and the 32x, they might be a little more financially viable these days. [/B]
Exactly. I may find one on Ebay one night and import it (despite the cost). But, Nintendo did make a good choice on not releasing it here. It would of lost money and damaged a reputation in a critical time.
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did someone say reputation?
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Reputation for putting out hardware that will succeed. Unlike 3DO, Sega, Neo-Geo, Phillips, and a few others, when Nintendo puts out a product you can count on it being supported for a long time. They learned from their Virtual Boy fiasco and they didn\'t repeat it. I think that is what he means.
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I think something like the Virtua Boy could be pulled off quite well today using existing technology for a decent price.
It would be pretty awesome.
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It wasn\'t just the technology that made the Virtual Boy bad. It was hard to use, you had to stay in a certain hunched over position to play, and it was not very portable. I don\'t think more powerful hardware would help it much.
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yea virtual boy - was not portable and playable at the same time if you ask me - now if you could have strapped it to your head - that would be cool
but even though the games were hard to play - nintendo could have done a lot better than that if you ask me
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There is obviously a market for this \'immature, crass humour\' or else movies such as \'There\'s Something About Mary\' and \'Scary Movie\' would have bombed like no tomorrow.
No-one gave a damn when Conker was a cute little squirrel so Rare came up with a brilliant idea to do something that up until now has never been done before.
Whether you like it or not, its a brilliant idea to try and pique interest in the game.
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Virtual Boy hard to play? Balderdash! I had no problem playing WarioLand last night. And fyi, you dont have toplay it hunched over, I play it while lying on my back on the sofa.
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umm....I think this topic is pointless and should be moved to the console discussion forum
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Originally posted by Aaron
It wasn\'t just the technology that made the Virtual Boy bad. It was hard to use, you had to stay in a certain hunched over position to play, and it was not very portable. I don\'t think more powerful hardware would help it much.
Exactly. If I played one for over 15 mintues I walked away with a bad headache and neck cramp. It was a good idea in theory, but just didn\'t work out right. It had a bunch of limits, that couldn\'t be over-looked.
Still, Nintendo had a reputation for systems that didn\'t fail. Once the Virtual Boy came out, it failed, and if they would of released the 64DD worldwide, it would of damaged their reputation severely. I still don\'t understand why they bothered to release it at all. The support wasn\'t there, it didn\'t offer any "must have" extras. And died just as fast as it came out.
And yes there is room for potty humor. But, I can\'t see dedicating 10+ hours to beating a game filled with it. After 2 hours or so, potty humor and "shock value" wears thin.
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Originally posted by mm
someone hand nintendo a f\'n clue
http://www.conker.com/bfd/hardcore_footage/uncensored.html
um, if yer not 17, nintendo doesnt think yer old enough to view that content
Conker\'s Bad Fur Day will be available March 5, for a Manufacturer\'s Suggested Retail Price of $69.95*.
Have you even watched a single video of the game, once? Particular references in the game are definatly not suitable for younger viewers. As Soulgrind pointed out, Conker would be suitable to anyone over 15 in Australia but since the US government has deemed that young americans don\'t mature till they\'re 17 and over then they are the guidelines Nintendo must follow. This game is definatly not suitable for a teen rating, if ESRB shared you "Nintendo is immature view" the game would be available for 5 year olds. The Fact is the ESRB deem the content unacceptable for younger viewers and Nintendo (being mindful of their 15+ year history image) is enforcing that point which is very understandable. On the other hand if Sony released such a game im sure they couldn\'t give a fu[/i]ck who bought the game as long as they managed to make a healthy profit since they have no video game image to maintain like Nintendo. Also not to mention your views on the game would be completly opposite.
Originally posted by mm
enjoy it? bah
i wouldnt pay 5$ for this crap
again, nintendo = desperate to try and regain to demographic of gamers that made them the comany they are. they alienated the "older" crowd by releasing kiddie game after kiddie game, after kiddie game. i got a hint for nintendo, tho
ITS TOO LATE!
If you\'re not interested in the game then why bother making a topic about it, just to deliberatly bash it and create a flame war on your own forum that you will not win.
How \'effin sad are you mate :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Altered Beast
The voices are bad and very british, which makes them hard to hear and understand, the control is iffy, especially witht hte asanine N64 controller.
Bwa Ha, knocking the ever humourous brittish accent when (no offence :))the typical slang American accent proves to be the overall most pitiful use of the English language anywhere in the world. Jerry Springer and Ricki Lake are fine examples - "It\'s like this Ricki, it\'s like, it\'s like, you know, it\'s like", please :rolleyes:
Originally posted by mm
elase, thats my point. i DO hate nintendo. i hate them with a fierce passion. they disowned me. they tryed to shove pokemon down my throat.
if it wasnt for rare and pokemon, nintendo would be bankrupt. end of story
You hate a video game company, what\'d they do rape your children, murder your family, poisen your dog. Or are you still having a little 10 year old girl sook for falling victim to the Nintendo 64 hype 5 years ago and buying a console you didn\'t like.
So you actually hate a video game company, ridiculous. I think you\'re in the need for some professional psychiatric help mm.
Originally posted by mm
delaying the N64 for years, going with carts for the N64, ripping us off with rumble paks and ram upgrades, not realesing the 64dd, pissing squaresoft off, making controllers that would give me carple tunnel syndrome, alienating any gamer older than 14, etc etc
- If you had a problem with N64 Delays and Carts then why bother buying the machine in the first place.
- If you didn\'t like the innovative rumble packs (that Sony soon copied, gee must of been good for some reason) then why buy them.
- If you didn\'t like the ram upgrades then why buy the few games (not like you like them anyway) that require the ram expansion.
- Ask yourself, did you honestly have any plans to buy the 64DD, no of course not, so why bring it up.
- But remember you have your fabled shelf with about 9 consoles sitting on it, you know the shelf you constantly bring up in debates to prove you\'re a big multi-platform gamer that gives you the grounds to pointlessly bash other consoles. So why should it matter to you which console Final Fantasy is on, why does it matter, you still own the game right, or do you, remembering it is a pretty kiddy series after all.
- Whinge about the controller all you wish, there are plenty of 3rd party alternatives and if none of them float your boat then simply don\'t buy the console at all.
- Finally if you feel alienated just for playing a few video games then you must be a sad insecure individual. Don\'t like the selection then don\'t buy it, simple. Oh wait you still did, damn.
Honestly what\'s the difference between you mindlessly bashing Nintendo (seems alright to the people on this forum as your word is the gospel to them) and me mindlessly bashing Sony that everyone hates me for. The answer is that there is none, unless your argument is constructive and intelligent then it\'s simple trolling. You and anyone who supports your coments yet have, in the past flammed me for my comments on Sony is a hypocrite, a big hypocrite.
Originally posted by Living-in-Clip
Hate them? No. I\'ve constantly said I will buy a GC and GBA. So there is no way I can hate them. Do I think they make some stupid moves? Yep. Yes, Rare made this game. I know that. But, from the looks of it, all it is , is a few "mature" themes in a platform game. And while the actual gameplay my be fine. Lets face it, how long can someone be amused by potty humor and "shock" value before they get annoyed? They expect someone to pay $60 for this? If I want to spend $60 dollars on potty humor I\'ll rent the SouthPark movie, and have money left over to get Rayman 2 for the N64 or something else.
Righto so a company decides to break new ground in a tired and rehashed genre such as platforming, basically giving these types of games a breath of fresh air and all the naysayers who haven\'t seen sh[/i]it of the game can do is complain. What annoys me the most is that all you (and many others) seem to think Conker is about is \'potty humour\' or \'mature themes\' while completly ignoring the game itself, and a quite deep and well playing game it is. The game is your typical standard platform fare with puzzle solving attributes (not collecting stuff) and brittish humour thrown in to keep the player entertained through the game, things such as famous movie spoofs and different kinds of abusive, vulgar and sexual comedy. I personally couldn\'t give a sh[/i]it if you don\'t buy the game (I don\'t know if I will be either yet) but at least give it a try before exercising your total lack of knowledge of the game by basically declaring it a south park rip off, an insult to anyone who has ever created any form of intelligent comedy on any medium.
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Damn straight Trin.
Conker (As well as Sin and Punishment) is the N64\'s swansong.
Some of the best graphics seen on 64.
The best sound ever heard on the 64.
And probably some of the most fun gameplay on the 64.
Case closed. :)
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Nice post Trintius. Trintius said everything that I wanted to say, except that I think Living said that he would still give the game a try a while back.
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using slang and having a hilarious, hard to understand accent are totally different. I have played the game, the voices are very fast, quiet, and British. Yecch!
The Ram cart as far as I could tell, did not do anything, as I played it with and without, no difference, sound or otherwise.
The Control, you get used to, but it\'s no Rayman 2.
Just wait til you play the game, you will see. It is a game for immature preteens and young teens, not for adults. The swearing, farting, pooing, etc all get tired after a short while.
Whoa he drinks! whoopee!
Eric Jacob
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i knew if i insulted nintendo, trin would sniff if out.
trin, gimme an abbreviated version of all yer babble. my time is precious
oh, and trin, its FAR too late for u to sound ANYWHERE near experienced and intelligent. we know better.
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Abbreviated version...how about you grow up for once.
Someone only has to look at my last post and compare it to yours, I think you\'re the one that doesn\'t sound experienced and intelligent. Also don\'t give this \'my time is precious\' crap, you practically live on this forum anyway.
It\'s no suprise you\'d go on another Nintendo bashing tirade though, gotta keep that simple mind of yours entertained right :rolleyes:
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if nintendo appeals to children like you, then job well done.
they made billions off of your parents hard earned money.
do u see me jumping to sony\'s defense when u bash them? no. ever wonder why? im not insecure, like you.
an to think im discussing this with a kid that has a picture of a troll under his name, hmmmph
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Originally posted by ElAsesino
Nice post Trintius. Trintius said everything that I wanted to say, except that I think Living said that he would still give the game a try a while back.
Right. I will rent the game. I just can\'t see myself not getting tired of the potty humor over the time it would take to beat the game. Not to mention the price. Yikes. Cartridges are way to expensive for me to go buying. And the only N64 game I plan on buying currently is Paper Mario.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Originally posted by ElAsesino
Nice post Trintius. Trintius said everything that I wanted to say, except that I think Living said that he would still give the game a try a while back.
Right. I will rent the game. I just can\'t see myself not getting tired of the potty humor over the time it would take to beat the game. Not to mention the price. Yikes. Cartridges are way to expensive for me to go buying. And the only N64 game I plan on buying currently is Paper Mario.
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That\'s cool. I mean, I have no problem whether or not someone likes a game as long as they give it a chance. It\'s just when people say a game is crappy or a rehash, when they haven\'t played it before. That is all I\'ve been trying to say.
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what game isnt a rehash? we havnt seen a truley "original" game in over 5 years.
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Originally posted by mm
what game isnt a rehash? we havnt seen a truley "original" game in over 5 years.
Ah it the ocupational hazard of the games developer
if they make a "origional" game they might lose money if it dose not catch on.
but if they just rehash it then they run the risk of releaseing another "tomb raider".
Most of they time they do play it safe with tryed and trused method\'s.
Maybe we need more independent developers to brake this cycle, as they have a great chance of reaping their rewards back if it is sucessful.
For example a Independent whould get
- Possible international reconition
- Increased sales if their new idea appeals to more than the one gaming genra (pardon the spelling)
- possible unorigional sequal that could add to the sucess of the first.
byt hey thats just my opinon, it\'s always up to the developers to take the chance on a new idea and stick with it right to the end.
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yer right 00seven, BUT, unfortunately, every genre possible is used up and whored out.
all, we can get better is graphics, and nintendo is always 3-4 years behind
ooops, left myself open for an attack from trin
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There is a budding independant developer community for the dreamcast. The developers are VERY talented but the time and effort required to make a DC game might turn a lot of people away.
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Yeah ... But for somereason we still buy them in our droves , it might be to do with the fact that there are no alternatives to choose from.
But that dose not excuse them from breathing a little life into a tried Genre.
i mean how can you develop on a beat them up with out resorting to rehashing some of the basic consepts of this genre.
For example you can list mainly all of them that have the tried best of 3 bouts system.
only a hand full stray from this with other modes and game set ups.
that is why it is important for developers to listen to the gamer, it would be a crying shame if the next series of final fantasy games on the playstation 2 where nothing morethan a high res version of the playstation versions.
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Originally posted by ElAsesino
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Originally posted by ElAsesino
Nice post Trintius. Trintius said everything that I wanted to say, except that I think Living said that he would still give the game a try a while back.
Right. I will rent the game. I just can\'t see myself not getting tired of the potty humor over the time it would take to beat the game. Not to mention the price. Yikes. Cartridges are way to expensive for me to go buying. And the only N64 game I plan on buying currently is Paper Mario.
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That\'s cool. I mean, I have no problem whether or not someone likes a game as long as they give it a chance. It\'s just when people say a game is crappy or a rehash, when they haven\'t played it before. That is all I\'ve been trying to say. [/B]
I think Conker faces a few problems in this situation. Its by Rare and for the most part they keep a certain formula and don\'t break it.
And even if the game is excellent platform fare, the potty humor is going to over-shadow it. I\'m not sure how many 17+ want to pay for a game of a talking animal who cusses. Its cute at first, but then its boring.
The N64 is severely out-dated. I would of saved the game for the GC . But, hey, thats just my opinion.
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Originally posted by mm
yer right 00seven, BUT, unfortunately, every genre possible is used up and whored out.
all, we can get better is graphics, and nintendo is always 3-4 years behind
ooops, left myself open for an attack from trin
I take it you like arguing with Trinitus. :)
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I can\'t stop looking at my watch!!! Countdown to Trinitus being banned starts now...
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Origianlly posted by mm
do u see me jumping to sony\'s defense when u bash them? no. ever wonder why? im not insecure, like you.
You\'re right, you don\'t jump to Sony\'s defence, big deal. But why is it that you must knock every little thing a particular video game company does. Really, you come on your own forum spew out a pile of unintelligent bullsh[/i]it about Nintendo, and why, because you\'re still dirty on them for being sucked into the Nintendo 64 hype 5 years ago. In your own words it\'s - you "hate" the company, lame :rolleyes:.
Origianlly posted by mm
an to think im discussing this with a kid that has a picture of a troll under his name, hmmmph
You\'re like the infamous chubby 10 year old piplely faced bully who demands respect and who laughs at his own jokes. The other kids haven\'t got the balls to stand up to the bully for fear of being punished, of course behind his back they think he\'s a wanker, moron etc. It\'s a nice analogy and it fits you like a glove.
Origianlly posted by mm
all, we can get better is graphics, and nintendo is always 3-4 years behind
ooops, left myself open for an attack from trin
Behind what?
Run along and play your revolutionary \'computer entertainment system\' from the thrid place that will take the PC years to catch up to. Moron :rolleyes:
Orginally posted by Living-in-Clip
Right. I will rent the game. I just can\'t see myself not getting tired of the potty humor over the time it would take to beat the game. Not to mention the price. Yikes. Cartridges are way to expensive for me to go buying. And the only N64 game I plan on buying currently is Paper Mario.
Again you fail to understand that the humour is simply a front for a very deep and enjoyable game. As for getting tired of the humour well I believe the way the humour has been used is quite intelligent in many areas.
To begin with the Matrix spoof is brilliant, here is a scene that plays out exactly like the movie, slow-mo bullets, mid air flips etc but what makes the humour so good is that by simply replacing neo with a short stubby squirrel trying to look like neo you produce a very comical and amusing scene, this is smart humour. Another example is the aliens spoof where, just like Ripley in the movie Conker says \'Get away from her you *****\' except of course it is a squirrel saying it and like the Matrix example proves very funny. Another example is when Conker dies somewhere in the game and he meets the Grim Reaper, now the Grim Reaper approaches Conker in a very evil and menacing fashion while casting a dark, long shadow. Obviously you\'re expecting a very evil and deep voice from the Grim Reaper but not in Conker, the Grim Reaper gives off a sqeaky high pitched voice telling Conker not to laugh, absolutly hillarious. Finally the money Conker uses in the game talks as well, in one scene the cash says "come back for more have ya, ya greedy bastard" (or something similar), the list of smart humour in the game goes on and on. Yes there is plenty of South Park humour but it is also intelligently used throughout the game instead of mindlessly in South Park.
The other thing that sets Conker apart from the rest is the emotional content. Conker reacts to everything from love, hate, fear, greed, lust etc. Conker has more emotional content in it then any other video game ever made, period.
Originally posted by TheOneBillyGunn
I can\'t stop looking at my watch!!! Countdown to Trinitus being banned starts now...
Why because for having a differing opinion and because I don\'t believe mm sets a good example for this forum. What a dopey thing to say.
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:D
Conkers has more emotional content then any videogame?
:laughing:
Trin, you had some good points. But you are stretching it a\'bit there...
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again, trin
please dont think long posts make u seem intelligent, we know better. i still wont read either of them.
was there anything ignorant or untrue in my bashing of nintendo? what do u mean "sucked in" by nintendo hype? i only own a N64 cause i got a couple free from work. the ONLY game i play occasionally is marioKart, cause its the only good game. the rest contain roughly 14 textures.
so again, argue all u want trin. what it boils down to, is that these are my opinions, and they are right
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Originally posted by Living-in-Clip[/b]
:D
Conkers has more emotional content then any videogame?
:laughing:
Trin, you had some good points. But you are stretching it a\'bit there...
I mean from a visual perspective, i.e - the various emotional actions of Conker that relate to certain circumstances in the game.
Im certainly not streching anything.
Originally posted by mm
please dont think long posts make u seem intelligent, we know better. i still wont read either of them.
I don\'t need long posts to look intelligent and they do not prove intelligence, my intelligence however is proven in the points that I have made. Still compared to your poorly structured, grammatically attrocious and lame posts I do appear intelligent, very intelligent.
Originally posted by mm
was there anything ignorant or untrue in my bashing of nintendo? what do u mean "sucked in" by nintendo hype? i only own a N64 cause i got a couple free from work. the ONLY game i play occasionally is marioKart, cause its the only good game. the rest contain roughly 14 textures.
You clearly dislike Nintendo which is fine, just don\'t think that because you are some big shot arrogant administrator you are afforded the privledge of knocking the company at every given opportunity. If you feel the need to pass off your negative opinion as fact about the same company over and over and at every given opportunity then you really are a very insecure person.
Originally posted by mm
so again, argue all u want trin. what it boils down to, is that these are my opinions, and they are right
There is no such thing as factual opinions but since you obviously believe so (from a Nintendo standpoint) it just further proves you insecurity.
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trin, heres what it REALLY boils down to...
1 - i hate nintendo
2 - this is my forum
3 - i say what i like
do we really have to continue this?
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No we don\'t, shove your forum and your rules in your arse for all I care.
Later.
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could trin truly be leaving?
wow, that was easy
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MM can you please stop making your self look like a moron?....these threads are pathetic and make all of the mods here look like hypocrites(i-e: only PS2 topics in the main forum).....yet when i post a xbox thread it\'s closed on-site...
and about conker....all i know is that college students are going to love it(and please don\'t give me that bull**** about them being mature) what do college kids do? watch masterpiece theater or play crazy mature-like games like conker?...;)
stupid topic.
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:rolleyes:
one of trin\'s cronies, i see
nplayer, youve been banned from how many forums?
yer word = crap
i dont close ANY threads, let alone xbox ones. i prance around the forums and generally do what i like anymore. its the mods job to delete and close threads
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If your not a Mod, then what are you?
Im confused.
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Look at his title, he\'s not a mod, he\'s a Kommunist leader!
:D
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faith, weve been thru this before
these forums are mine
ive been running them from day 1
hell, if we go back far enough, 12/96 is when i started to run the forums for bjorn. http://www.n64universe.com BABY!
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mm is the coolest person...I don\'t understand him sometimes, but he\'s cool...:D
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I like clyde better.
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:)
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"Again you fail to understand that the humour is simply a front for a very deep and enjoyable game. As for getting tired of the humour well I believe the way the humour has been used is quite intelligent in many areas.
To begin with the Matrix spoof is brilliant, here is a scene that plays out exactly like the movie, slow-mo bullets, mid air flips etc but what makes the humour so good is that by simply replacing neo with a short stubby squirrel trying to look like neo you produce a very comical and amusing scene, this is smart humour. Another example is the aliens spoof where, just like Ripley in the movie Conker says \'Get away from her you *****\' except of course it is a squirrel saying it and like the Matrix example proves very funny. Another example is when Conker dies somewhere in the game and he meets the Grim Reaper, now the Grim Reaper approaches Conker in a very evil and menacing fashion while casting a dark, long shadow. Obviously you\'re expecting a very evil and deep voice from the Grim Reaper but not in Conker, the Grim Reaper gives off a sqeaky high pitched voice telling Conker not to laugh, absolutly hillarious. Finally the money Conker uses in the game talks as well, in one scene the cash says "come back for more have ya, ya greedy bastard" (or something similar), the list of smart humour in the game goes on and on. Yes there is plenty of South Park humour but it is also intelligently used throughout the game instead of mindlessly in South Park.
The other thing that sets Conker apart from the rest is the emotional content. Conker reacts to everything from love, hate, fear, greed, lust etc. Conker has more emotional content in it then any other video game ever made, period." - Trinitus
You are a very confusing individual do you know that? I have a hard time figuring you out at times. On the one hand you make some very good points, but then follow them up with a post like the one above which makes you think... "Wait a minuite? WTF is going on here, I thought he was intelligent for a moment." It\'s almost like you\'re struggling between having a mind of your own and being a brainwashed Nintnedo zealot... never really knowing which side you should be on.
If you think that Conker used it\'s humor in a smart and orginial fashion, then I suggest you get out and play more humorous games. Try Leisure Suit Larry, Monkey Island, Legend of Kyrandia, Leather Godesses of Phobos, or Maniac Mansion if you just can\'t tear yourself away from a Nintendo product long enough to broaden your horizons. THOSE game have what I consider intelligent humor like lymrics, jokes, anagrams, play on words, and at times insults directed at the player, mixed in with the parodys and potty humor (at least in Larry\'s case). What you\'re trying to say is akin to saying South Park and Sam Kinnison\'s humor styling are one in the same. That\'s just not true.. South Park may have it\'s moments where the creators make a good point about life in a humorous way, but Sam\'s entire act was basically *****ing about realworld problems and hypocracys in a humorous manner.
And also, your argument that Conker has it\'s emotional moments is extreemly weak. So the squirel shows some shallow emotions, big deal. It\'s not like that\'s some "Big innovation". Whooptee *ucking doo! Game designers have only been doing that for the past 15 YEARS! Pasting an emotional responce on a polygon model is easy, getting an emotional responce from the player is totally different. Show a moment in Conker that has the same type of impact on the player that Aries\'s death in FF7 or the end scenes from FF8 had and maybe I\'ll acknowlage your point.
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Originally posted by SOnyfan
If you think that Conker used it\'s humor in a smart and orginial fashion, then I suggest you get out and play more humorous games.
Oh so you\'ve played the final build of the game have you, your educated opinion on Conker comes from on hands personal experience does it :rolleyes:
I\'ve used plenty of examples to explain how Conker uses intelligent humour, do these points mean sh[/i]it to you do they, do you consider the game a South Park rip off by default because because it has violent, vulgar and sexual content.
To me the truth is clear, you have zero grounds to base your \'Conker is like South Park\' claims simply because you have not even seen the game letelone played it extensively.
As far as im concerned Conker does use it\'s humour in an intelligent and constructive fashion. Yet another example of this has to be the opera recital of one of the bosses in the game, very well done and is something you would never find in South Park. Yes the game has it\'s fair share of toilet humour, does that automatically make it a bad game, does that give you the right to pass final judgement on the game without giving it any chance whatsoever. How about opening your eyes to the possibility that maybe, just maybe there is more to Conker then meets the eye, or do you make final uneducated decisions on all of the future games you have no interest in.
Originally posted by Sony Fan
And also, your argument that Conker has it\'s emotional moments is extreemly weak. So the squirel shows some shallow emotions, big deal. It\'s not like that\'s some "Big innovation". Whooptee *ucking doo! Game designers have only been doing that for the past 15 YEARS!
Extremely weak is it, doing that for the past 15 years have they. If you think for a second that real-time characters in past video games have visually expressed any where near the huge amount of emotions seen in Conker then you are dead wrong. If the process of programming emotional behaviour to polygon models is as simple as you say then why is Conker the first in 15 years of 3D graphics (as you claim) to cover a huge amount of emotions such as happiness, anger, frustation, love, lust etc. This is a big deal because finally these emotions are faithfully expressed by the main character in a video game for the first time, unlike the text in RPG\'s used to represent emotion.
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Originally posted by SonyFan
Show a moment in Conker that has the same type of impact on the player that Aries\'s death in FF7 or the end scenes from FF8 had and maybe I\'ll acknowlage your point.
What impact did Aries death have on the player in FF7? When I played I thought it was messed up. I didn\'t cry or get mad. Please explain.
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Originally posted by mm
trin, heres what it REALLY boils down to...
1 - i hate nintendo
2 - this is my forum
3 - i say what i like
do we really have to continue this?
are these forums yours??...not bjorns?
oh..wel hail mm ;)
I know what situation yer in, I\'m having the exactly the same problem, for exactly the same reasons YOU mentioned. I\'m sorely dissapointed and angry about nintendo, but I dont hate them. The pissed me off with the 64 delays, carts crappy gfx (psx looked better IMO)sucky sound and mediocore games.
and yes Mario Kart is one the best N64 games ever!
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Clever humour?
How about when a well endowned (read: big breasted) flower asks if Conker wants a "bounce" and Conker responds "now this is what I call a platform game".
That works on two levels. The casual gamers will appreciate the cheeky comment Conker has just made while the more hardcore and informed among us will realize this is a reference to Rare\'s other, cutesy, mass collecting platformers.
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"Oh so you\'ve played the final build of the game have you, your educated opinion on Conker comes from on hands personal experience does it." - Trinitus
I am basing my opinions on what I\'ve seen of the game in the movies Nintnedo has posted, and what I\'ve heard from various people at the late Nintendose forums. While it\'s true that I can\'t say I\'m 100% certain that the humor in the game is how I pegged it, but remember this door swings both ways. YOU haven\'t played a final build of the game at length either, so it\'s not like you have any more room than I to preach about it.
Now I just have to wonder.. what other humorous games have you played? Have you ever played any of the games I\'ve mentioned above? Where do you have any room at all to comment on the trend of humor in games and Conker\'s place amongst such humorous titles? From my point of view, you\'re no better than those people who claim Resident Evil is a reveloutionary genrebuster without even a whisper of Alone in the Dark. (Which Resident Evil parallels very closely.. and even seems to "borrow from it" at times.)
"As far as im concerned Conker does use it\'s humour in an intelligent and constructive fashion." - Trin
Well as far as I\'m concerned, you\'ve got some screwed up conceptions of "Intelligence" and "Contructiveness" if Conker is your example.
"Yet another example of this has to be the opera recital of one of the bosses in the game, very well done and is something you would never find in South Park." - Trin
Actually, South Park has done quite a few musical numbers in their shows. If I\'m not mistaken, "Blame Canada" from the South Park Movie was even nominated/or won an award. I\'m not sure which one though, if anyone else reading this thread can tell me, I\'d be grateful.
"Yes the game has it\'s fair share of toilet humour, does that automatically make it a bad game, does that give you the right to pass final judgement on the game without giving it any chance whatsoever." -Trin
I never said it would be a bad game. You need to stop listening to those voices in your head, they\'re telling you lies. I merely said that the humor, from what I\'ve seen of it, is distateful and unimaginative, and that it would piss a lot of people off. In fact, I even defended Conker when Metal_Gear_Ray acused it of being too cartoony. Why don\'t you drop your sword and sheild and take part in a converstaion as a gamer instead of a zelot sometime. You might actually like the change.
"How about opening your eyes to the possibility that maybe, just maybe there is more to Conker then meets the eye," - Trin
Well why don\'t you open up your eyes to the possibility that maybe, just maybe, there\'s more to PS2, Dreamcast, and PC games that meet the eye. All I\'ve ever seen you do is bash those platforms without even bothering to acknolage that there are good games, and must have classics, on all of them. Or how about maybe, just maybe, you open up your eyes and realize that not everything Nintnedo/Rare produces is solid ****ing gold that everyone must praise until their voices give out. Tastes are different, tolerances are different. You just have to deal with it.
"If you think for a second that real-time characters in past video games have visually expressed any where near the huge amount of emotions seen in Conker then you are dead wrong." - Trin
That\'s called progress moron. You couldn\'t exactly have a plethora of expressions when the character\'s face when there were only 23 pixels and 16 colors used to draw that face, although there were a few. Any one with the right tools and a bit of programming can edit up a Quake III characters to have hundreds of experessions depicting the different emotional states. Does that mean Quake III is an emotional game? Hell no. What makes a game emotional, is the way the author/writer puts those emotions into the game\'s storyline and how he draws emotion out of his audience.
You\'re trying to turn CBFD into a f*cking work Shakespear Trin, and noone\'s buying it.
"What impact did Aries death have on the player in FF7? When I played I thought it was messed up. I didn\'t cry or get mad. Please explain." - Gohan
Arieth\'s death if FF7 is usually regarded as one of the best examples of emotional content in videogames. There\'s a lot of people out there, that don\'t think games should be considered a work of art, because they don\'t draw emotions out of their audience in the way poetry, music, literature, and other forms of art do. For many FF7 players, Arieth\'s death brought out those emotions ranging from sadness and shock to rage at Sephiroth for killing her, in the same way a similar event in a good film would.
What I\'m trying to explain to Trin, is that there\'s a whole lot more to puting emotional content into a game than just programming in some expressions. Games (Mostly RPG\'s and Adventures until just recently, they have a tendancy to lend themselves more to dramatic content) have been using dialog and dramatics to try and provoke emotional responces from their audience for quite a long time.
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Originally posted by mm
:rolleyes:
one of trin\'s cronies, i see
nplayer, youve been banned from how many forums?
yer word = crap
i dont close ANY threads, let alone xbox ones. i prance around the forums and generally do what i like anymore. its the mods job to delete and close threads
cronie?...ddaryl and souldgrind are cronies not me...it\'s obvious you do this just to get a laugh but at the same time make your self look like a idiot..and newbies(i\'e fanboys who hate PS2) do not take you serious(why should they?) and come here and start crap...something you should stop yet you don\'t....
yeah i been banned from lots of forums...because people can\'t take the heat and can\'t face the facts when shove down their throats....
yer mod skillz= crap(all should agree...why is trin here eh?)
i didn\'t say you closed the thread..but one of your mods did and his excuse was "only PS2 topics in main forum" yet we have the guy who "ownz" the forum post a topic about a nintendo64 game for the sole intent of making fun of it and getting a laugh...
pathetic.
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Hey SonyFan, use the quote tag. It makes your posts a lot easier to read.
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"yeah i been banned from lots of forums...because people can\'t take the heat and can\'t face the facts when shove down their throats....
BWUHAHAHA! dont confuse facts with ignorance, kid
nice pic, btw
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All I got to say is that this game had BETTER be good considering its been delayed for about TWO years now, and if its not a good game then there is something seriously wrong.
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KID?....that comment is very funny because, you! who is so "mature" and "grown-up" to call me a kid spends his time fighting with these "kids" and putting dumbass pics under their names...yeah MM you sure do have the right to call people "kids":rolleyes"
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100th post.. Anyways I think the big N is just making this game to sound not-so-kiddie anymore. I doubt it will work.
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all i wanna know, nplayer, is
what is :rolleyes" ?
is it that difficult?
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:laughing:
:rolleyes:
:laughing: !!!!!
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It seems we have a great game coming soon...
http://www.zdnet.com/gamespot/filters/products/0,11114,196973,00.html
(if link doesn\'t work then copy ans paste that)
IMO, Videogames.com gave it a 9.3!!! And they\'re knowed to be a stupid and biased site! This game MUST be good it they gave it a 9.3, so I guess you Sony girls have absolutely NO argument on this game anymore.
Hell,THQ describes this game as being "revolutionary".
"We\'re excited to be partnering with Rare and Nintendo of America on this revolutionary game,”
http://ign64.ign.com/news/31981.html
This good news doesn\'t startle me really. Was there a better platform game than Banjo-Kazooie last generation? I think not. Give Rare some credit people.
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i give rare two credits
1 - making good with limited hardware and medium
2 - keeping nintendo out of bankrupcy
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Originally posted by mm
i give rare two credits
1 - making good with limited hardware and medium
2 - keeping nintendo out of bankrupcy
I think the Cash cow that is Pokemon kept Nintendo\'s pockets on stuff.
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Don\'t forget the 35 million units they sold and Mario and Zelda games.
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35 million units? is that just a random number?
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No it\'s the number that most video game sites give for the total number of n64 units sold...
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so its a group effort?
is http://www.nintendorks.com one of these illustrious sites?
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Heh heh, these threads were always so amusing. At the mere mention of Nintendo, and mm automatically goes into "Sony roxz, Nintendo suxz" mode. Hilarity ensues.
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Ha! 35 million units!!??
You are telling be that 2 videogames generated 1.8 billion dollars in revenue?
That is quite obviously BS.
Besides I think it\'s pretty widely known that the highest selling console game of all time is the original Mario Bros. with something in the 10-13 million range of games sold.
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35 million units is the number of consoles that was sold( around there).
I got this from various sites over the internet(IGN, DR, ect). It shouldn\'t be a surprise to everyone.
You are telling be that 2 videogames generated 1.8 billion dollars in revenue?
That is quite obviously BS.
I said Mario and Zelda gameS. Mario64, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Zelda:OOT, Zelda MM...you get the point.
Besides I think it\'s pretty widely known that the highest selling console game of all time is the original Mario Bros. with something in the 10-13 million range of games sold.
Hmmm... I know for a fact it sold over 6 million copies in Japan alone...
Here\'s an interesting fact- Goldeneye sold over SEVEN million copies. Good work Rare.
To stay on topic, Conker\'s Bad Fur Day got a 9.9 from IGN64. The only game to get higher than that is Zelda:OOT. Impressive.
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Wow a 9.9?
Maybe there\'s some life left in me old N64 still.
Still that\'s a 9.9 for an aging console and the score is in comparison to other games on the system, so I\'m not sure if I should plop down the 60 bucks for it,rather than spend them on a next gen game like ZOE.
I\'ll probably let my brother buy it and play it when he\'s done (I always manipulate him into spending his cash on something I\'mnot too sure about) :D
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Originally posted by Jumpman
You are telling be that 2 videogames generated 1.8 billion dollars in revenue?
That is quite obviously BS.
I said Mario and Zelda gameS. Mario64, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Zelda:OOT, Zelda MM...you get the point.[/B]
You know I am an admitted Nintendo fan but that is not a very good argument. Mario has been in everything from Punch Out to Mario Party. It makes no sense to count all those games as one.
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You know I am an admitted Nintendo fan but that is not a very good argument. Mario has been in everything from Punch Out to Mario Party. It makes no sense to count all those games as one.
I don\'t follow...
I was simply saying that games with the name Mario on it helped make the N64 a successful system.
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kain, u poor human
NOONE, me included, has EVER seen mm hype the PS2 as better than any other system
IN FACT, he trashes it just like any other over priced system out.
please think before u speak
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videogames.com gave CBFD a 9.3 (a ten for gameplay) and IGN gave it a 9.9 (a ten for game play). If videogames.com gave conker a 9.3 and gave final fantasy an 8.5 which everybody is saying is sooooo great (i haven\'t played it personally) then conker has to be a pretty good game. Also, it might not have the best stuff for a 17+ year old, its definitely not a kiddy game. So, if everybody\'s arguing that conker\'s not a good game, you\'re wrong, but if you\'re saying that the humor and the look aren\'t THAT mature... then i might be able to see your point.
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Look at the game. It has fluffy characters, big eyes and vibrant colors. Anyone..and I mean anyone who isn\'t aware of the content in this game will automaticly label this game for kids. Nintendo is going to get in trouble with the PTA because its misleading..sure they have that M rating plastered on the box, but the picture of conker overshadows it. Does anyone remember Joe camel. This situation so much reminds me of that. Cigs are for adults..but they used a cartoon character as their mascot to sell them. People claimed the industry to target kids because of Joe. So now Joe is gone. I know this game isn\'t as bad as Cigs, but the situation is kinda the same. What is going to stop guy\'s younger brother or sister to come along and play the game..kids are going to play this game..that M rating isn\'t going to stop that..and parents are going to be mad.
P.S I dont have a hatred towards Nintendo..I love the Big N, but I seriously hope they dont think they will get away with something like this and not take heat for it.
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sorry Trinitius. I HAVE playe the final build, if you werent such a jackass and skip over all the times I have statedf this, then maybe you would actually come to the conclusion that, no, thus game isn\'t the be-all, end-all game.
What emotion? I remember him walking out of a bar drunk, then waking up, whoa! EMOTION! all the stupid parodies things have been done before anyway. Matrix-spoof = scary-movie, grim-reaper thing= princess bride, and so on.
You are getting more hilarious and more obscure as you keep posting, I used to respect you for sticking with an opinion youy had and defending it in a smart way, now you just spew crap like an idiot on a sinking ship.
The game really isn\'t worth it. Wanna know a game that shows emotion? Shenmue, FF7, Phantasy Star 4, Phantasy Star 3, have you played any of these games? They will wrench your heart out, if you take the time away from your n64-analog stick-anal-sex, you would see that, yes, there are more than Nintendo games out there, and yes, hype hurts, and hype hurts alot.
I am not reading through the last page and a half because it is all of you criticisng people with a basis for their arguments.
Eric Jacob
PS: how the hell did all you bastards become PSX2c staff? dammit! I feel left out, maybe it\'s the Sega fan in me? :)
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emotion in ff7?
if chimps could cry, i would have cried a sea when aires was killed.
WAAAAAAAAAH!
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i just included FF7, because everyone else does. I have actually only played the game for about 4 hours, and thouht it sucked chimpanzee balls :)
Eric Jacob
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Conker = emotion? :laughing: A drunk animal with Matrix spoofs. Oh very emotional.
The gameplay might be good. But come on, calling it emotional? That is going overboard. It is alot easier to go, "Its a typical Rare platform game with adult themes, so it will attract mature auidences." Then again, I really just don\'t care for Rare. Well, not their latest stuff, I should say.
Banjo Kazooie? More like Banjo Poopie....
;)
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
The game really isn\'t worth it. Wanna know a game that shows emotion? Shenmue, FF7, Phantasy Star 4, Phantasy Star 3, have you played any of these games? They will wrench your heart out,
"Do you remember anything from the day of the incident?"
"On the day of the incident, did you see a car?"
"Ryo, I think kitty likes you. What do you want to name her?"
:D
I love this game. I think I may go play it again.
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Originally posted by Altered Beast
sorry Trinitius. I HAVE playe the final build, if you werent such a jackass and skip over all the times I have statedf this, then maybe you would actually come to the conclusion that, no, thus game isn\'t the be-all, end-all game.
Final Build, what barely 5 minutes of it at the start. Great way to judge the entire game isn\'t it, and I didn\'t say Conker was the be-all, end-all game im sure it isn\'t perfect but it isn\'t crap like you claim either.
Originally posted by Altered Beast
You are getting more hilarious and more obscure as you keep posting, I used to respect you for sticking with an opinion youy had and defending it in a smart way, now you just spew crap like an idiot on a sinking ship.
Oh boo hoo, I fail to live up to Altered Beast\'s high standards.
Originaly posted by Living-in-Clip
Conker = emotion? A drunk animal with Matrix spoofs. Oh very emotional.
No I said the main character (Conker) exhibts a huge range of emotions, much more then any other character in any other game. I never said the game makes the user feel emotional (although it does through laughter which is an emotion), do not take me out of context again.
To the rest of the Conker bashers, the game has scored a 9.3 and a 9.9 which is pretty damn well good. Also both reviews support my argument very well.
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ummm, trin
didnt u say you were leaving?
i dont care either way, but i hate to see someone lie to themselves
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Gohan, I meant when Hazuki-san dies, etc. Not the drab "Do you remember that day, the day the snow turned to rain" although I can\'t think of any other way they couldve made it not so repetive.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Gohan, I meant when Hazuki-san dies, etc. Not the drab "Do you remember that day, the day the snow turned to rain" although I can\'t think of any other way they couldve made it not so repetive.
I know. I just find those first couple of conversations funny. I thought they were bad translations and then I realized the same thing you did.
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Well, this is just nintendo rolling around and trying to jump out from the pool of kiddiness, by stretching a game far over the line.
Ok. First came this game with really cute squirrels. It was game for children. Cute, colorful, easy.
Then Nintendo finally saw the first game wasn\'t praised for the kiddishness. They planned a little plan with Rare.
And so forth comes Conker BFD, a game with the same cute squirrels but the age-rating has gone from PG to M!
Is Nintendo trying to be ironic, or what is this? A pure example that N64 CAN be a console for adults, the last try, to remove the n64 from the swamp of kiddiness?
Personally I think this game won\'t attract adults and is too violent for children. Pure crÄp so to speak. I pity Rare. This time.
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Damn, I looked everywhere for this game today, but I couldn\'t find it anywhere. Now I\'ll have to wait until the weekend before I can get back to town. That sucks.
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you\'re going to buy it kane?
I would want to rent it ( just because of pure interest of how far Nintendo/Rare really went ), but I don\'t own a N64 anymore so...