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Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 26, 2001, 06:51:08 AM
I found this (http://www.playstationcenter.com/news.phtml?id=57416&language=en) interesting link on ars.
Apparently Sony has chosen AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3.
This probly means that AMD will be supplying it\'s Hyper Transport technoligy to Sony.
If it\'s true I wonder if Toshiba will still be involved?
Well I hope it\'s true because as some of you might know I have love in my heart for AMD.
Title: thats awesome
Post by: kirath on February 26, 2001, 07:01:18 AM
Its good to see that sony is getting an excellent proccesor manufacturer like AMD involved...

Whoo hoo!!  :D
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: EmperorRob on February 26, 2001, 07:24:41 AM
AMD rules.  This could be the edge AMD needs to jump ahead of INTEL.  PS3 vs X-box2?
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ProfessorX on February 26, 2001, 07:27:31 AM
MS chooses Intel and you guys complain of PC parts now Sony goes with AMD and you applaud the move?  Comical!
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Biohazard on February 26, 2001, 07:31:50 AM
Idon\'t know whats going on here but i guess it\'s cool. :D
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 26, 2001, 07:33:23 AM
Well see AMD rules and Intel drools :D
See they are probly working on the EE.2 Sony want\'s that design and they are probly getting AMD to help them design the thing.And because of they can produce alot of procs.
I just hope Toshiba is still in on this.Sony,AMD and Toshiba friggin roXors.....or something like that.
Title: huh??
Post by: kirath on February 26, 2001, 07:36:56 AM
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Originally posted by ProfessorX
MS chooses Intel and you guys complain of PC parts now Sony goes with AMD and you applaud the move?  Comical!


I said nothing about X-baux and there choice of chips..  Im just an AMD fan... Nothing really to do with Sony or X-baux...  So I ask, WTF is your problem..???

Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ProfessorX on February 26, 2001, 07:48:13 AM
Hypocracy and it\'s not my problem, it\'s yours.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Black Samurai on February 26, 2001, 07:49:47 AM
I think it is WAY too early for them to be releasing any information on the PS3. The PS2 just came out in the US. Even if they are working on the PS3 keep it hush hush for a while.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ProfessorX on February 26, 2001, 07:55:56 AM
Sony\'s not stupid they didn\'t announce anything while the PS2 has not even reached it\'s peak.  I don\'t think they are about to scrap the EE and GS anytime soon if you ask me.
Title: tricks are for ProfessorX
Post by: kirath on February 26, 2001, 08:00:30 AM
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Originally posted by ProfessorX
Hypocracy and it\'s not my problem, it\'s yours.


So now your calling me a Hypocrite....  Why..??  What did I say to make me a hypocrite..??   All I said was I like AMD...  SO because of that Im a hypocrite now...  I am not partial to sony, x-baux, Gc, etc, etc, etc, etc....  I don\'t get involved in the threads debating which one is better.  

I think you need to go punk out somewhere else and watch what you say to people... :D
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ProfessorX on February 26, 2001, 09:00:17 AM
When you show your name mentioned in my post you can then start to talk.  I used the word \'you\' as an arbitrary person! It was for the people who made the argument against the Xbox that PIII was an off the shelf PC part and that it couldn\'t stack up to the GS and EE. And by the way that is true the PIII does not stack up against the EE and GS.

You need to stop taking these posts as a personal attack.  Which leads me to another question....why would you take it so personally?  If I didn\'t make those kind of comments that I had mentioned I would pay no mind to them yet you take them so personally. Why? Makes me believe you did say them. Oh well, have a nice day sorry you felt that way.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Vertical694 on February 26, 2001, 09:05:15 AM
There is two thing this can be

1.Sony is partnering with AMD the co-develop the EE2/EE3
or
2.Sony is letting AMD manufacture the EE2/EE3 when completed
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Unicron! on February 26, 2001, 09:16:18 AM
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When you show your name mentioned in my post you can then start to talk. I used the word \'you\' as an arbitrary person! It was for the people who made the argument against the Xbox that PIII was an off the shelf PC part and that it couldn\'t stack up to the GS and EE. And by the way that is true the PIII does not stack up against the EE and GS.

You need to stop taking these posts as a personal attack. Which leads me to another question....why would you take it so personally? If I didn\'t make those kind of comments that I had mentioned I would pay no mind to them yet you take them so personally. Why? Makes me believe you did say them. Oh well, have a nice day sorry you felt that way.



MC is having an INTEL Pentium in XBOX.The same as the PC\'s.
AMD will help Sony by providing the processing power for the PS3.Do you anywhere read they are going to have an AMD processor in EE2?NO!!That makes the BIG difference.

And we take so personally WHAT?
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 26, 2001, 09:30:38 AM
wow alot of flaming in such a short thread.
Well I for one am very excited about this.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: kirath on February 26, 2001, 09:35:58 AM
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Originally posted by ProfessorX
When you show your name mentioned in my post you can then start to talk.  I used the word \'you\' as an arbitrary person! It was for the people who made the argument against the Xbox that PIII was an off the shelf PC part and that it couldn\'t stack up to the GS and EE. And by the way that is true the PIII does not stack up against the EE and GS.

You need to stop taking these posts as a personal attack.  Which leads me to another question....why would you take it so personally?  If I didn\'t make those kind of comments that I had mentioned I would pay no mind to them yet you take them so personally. Why? Makes me believe you did say them. Oh well, have a nice day sorry you felt that way.


Well I did not take it personally....  I don\'t really care...I just don\'t like you... simple enough..right..??
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ProfessorX on February 26, 2001, 09:53:06 AM
I guess it\'s simple enough although I\'m not the one who finds it difficult...do you?
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on February 26, 2001, 09:56:13 AM
I like AMD... but already PS3?? videogame world is crazy!! :)
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: kirath on February 26, 2001, 09:56:40 AM
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Originally posted by ProfessorX
I guess it\'s simple enough although I\'m not the one who finds it difficult...do you?


Nope simple over here too...  So thats about it I guess...
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Unicron! on February 26, 2001, 09:56:50 AM
Lets calm down a bit ant try not to make this thread a PS2 VS XBOX processor.

Lets talk about PS3 instead.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Samwise on February 26, 2001, 10:18:49 AM
Stop the flaming and the complaining. Don\'t worry, be happy. ;)

Who gives a damn about PS3 at this point... But Sony has been spending billions on the EE and GS. They\'re gonna use EE3 in PS2, not an AMD processor. So just calm down. It\'s still some five years away anyway.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 26, 2001, 10:30:05 AM
spoken like a true moderator :)
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: EmperorRob on February 26, 2001, 11:18:46 AM
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Originally posted by ProfessorX
MS chooses Intel and you guys complain of PC parts now Sony goes with AMD and you applaud the move?  Comical!


Neither No_One, kirath, or myself have said anything of the kind.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ddaryl on February 26, 2001, 02:39:33 PM


The emotion Engine 3 will be in the PS2

This is not a worthy site for information, and until you see it on DR IGN Gamespot etc... its BS

sorry I think this article is rediculous, and I\'d rather have the EE3 over AMD
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 26, 2001, 02:50:38 PM
I understood this as AMD would co-develop the EE.3.
If it\'s true I doubt they would put a normal PC CPU in it and thus going back from 128bit to 64bit.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ddaryl on February 26, 2001, 03:12:42 PM
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Originally posted by nO-One
I understood this as AMD would co-develop the EE.3.
If it\'s true I doubt they would put a normal PC CPU in it and thus going back from 128bit to 64bit.



I don\'t believe it at all...

Until I read a formal announcement from respected sites its just your usual net based journalism
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 26, 2001, 03:20:22 PM
I understand that and I won\'t count on it,but I sure as hell hope it\'s true. (I\'m an AMD whore)
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: EmperorRob on February 26, 2001, 03:27:30 PM
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Originally posted by ddaryl
This is not a worthy site for information, and until you see it on DR IGN Gamespot etc... its BS


Have to disagree here.  DRadar and IGN are good sites but they are not the end-all be-all.  At worst this is a rumor but even rumors usually have some truth to them.  Whether this is one of them remains to be seen, but brushing it aside as a lie is not a good idea either.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: unknown on February 26, 2001, 03:37:04 PM
all of this talking about ps3 is worring me, what happens if they do come out with a ps3 by the end of the year or soemthing, we all wouldve wasted 300 dollars on a ps2, i hope all this bullsh!t dies over soon, this guy at work saw me lookng at ps2 games and he said, oh im waiting for the ps3 to come out, you know they are already going to come out with a ps3... i looked at him and sai "are you stupid or something, for starters why would sony come out with the ps3 so early and completley ruin the ps2? why would they make such a stupid move like that for anyways when they have a great system out already"? he said cause the x box is better.. this made me really mad and i said " sony doesnt have to worry about them they are just another push over, nothing to worry about, even if there game look better, that dont mean sh!t it all about the game itself, the story line and the game play itself, sony has some great games coming out in due time, x box will have thier games as well, but they are going to port all of sonys great ame over to thier system watch, then he felt stupid and walked away, this made me feel better of course, thats how i feel about all this bs, im tired of hearing about it especially for 5 years till the ps3 actually coems out, just surprise us and be done with it.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ddaryl on February 26, 2001, 04:06:00 PM
**sigh**

good ole\' net based journalism

this news is BS

Sony is developing the EE2 and the EE3,

why take a giant step backwards and go with a AMD processor ?????

Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on February 26, 2001, 04:19:50 PM
I like AMD better than Intel anyways...

Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 26, 2001, 04:22:32 PM
Erm AMD wouldn\'t be a step backwards.I\'m pretty sure if it\'s true that Sony is just licensing AMD\'s Hyper Transport Technoligy.It would be really cool if AMD was developing the EE.2 along with Sony and Toshiba (if Toshiba will have anything to do with the EE.2) because AMD really know their sh*t.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ddaryl on February 26, 2001, 04:35:56 PM
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Originally posted by nO-One
Erm AMD wouldn\'t be a step backwards.I\'m pretty sure if it\'s true that Sony is just licensing AMD\'s Hyper Transport Technoligy.It would be really cool if AMD was developing the EE.2 along with Sony and Toshiba (if Toshiba will have anything to do with the EE.2) because AMD really know their sh*t.




Maybe, but the article clearly states AMD will be the processor in the PS3.

If it was just a liscense of techologies then yes its a good move, but if AMD goes into the PS3 its a huge step backwards. The EE kicks the **** out of AMD Athlon as a multimedia processor. The EE3 will be quite the beast.


There we\'re similiar reports of 3DFX making the GPU for the PS3 a few months back, but those we\'re obviously false as well.


Title: I will stay out of this one.....
Post by: jiggs on February 26, 2001, 06:18:40 PM
The last time I mentioned news about the PS3 I was lined up against a wall and shot. I like livin.lol:D:D
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Title: Re: I will stay out of this one.....
Post by: ddaryl on February 26, 2001, 06:44:35 PM
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Originally posted by jiggs
The last time I mentioned news about the PS3 I was lined up against a wall and shot. I like livin.lol:D:D



PS3 news isn\'t bad, its just people who actually think the PS3 is a year away.

as for AMD, I\'m not buying this news till I hear it from the horses mouth.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: MeTaL=DeaTh on February 26, 2001, 11:17:15 PM
i find it hard to swallow too,but if it turns out to be true,then so be it,doesn\'t mean that Sony will have pc parts (as ProfessorX wants to point out) in the PS3,for all we know it could be a complete custom processor for it,..? but i highly doubt it,does not mesh with Sony\'s kingdom very well
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on February 26, 2001, 11:56:11 PM
yup amd rulz and intel drools, I got mixed feelings anout this. At first it seems great!! But on the other hand will sony stop using ps2\'s unique emotion engine architecture?? Will ps3 be like xbox..with pc hardware?

Well one thing is for sure... AMD processors are cheap, so that\'ll lower ps3s price!
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Robert R. Lawrence on February 27, 2001, 01:21:53 AM
God I hope AMD isn\'t involved there processors are ****, I\'d take Intel anyday over that crap, if sony puts a Pentium or Athlon in there console I would be a very sad man... But im confident Sony isn\'t that dumb and idiotic (Like bill gates)
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: SonyFan on February 27, 2001, 03:14:29 AM
"Hypocracy and it\'s not my problem, it\'s yours." - ProfessorX

I think it\'s a little too early to be proclaiming people hypocryts. Had Intel created a whole new processor for the Xbox, it wouldn\'t have been labeled "A PC lite" like so many people have. AMD is a fine chip maker, and if they decide to take EE R&D and production to the next level then I applaud them. IF they are merely putting a modified version of their PC processors in the PS3.. then I think it\'s a huge step backwards for Sony.

Then again, where does Toshiba come in? They helped develop the EE and have had plans to outsource the technology to all sorts of devices in the next few years, so I can\'t see AMD just picking up all the rights to produce the EE2. I think it\'s more likely that AMD is just producing the PS3 processor and nothing else.. that way Toshiba can produce their own EE\'s for other devices without having to worry about PS3 demand limiting their production.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: QuDDus on February 27, 2001, 04:01:14 AM
There is two thing this can be

1.Sony is partnering with AMD the co-develop the EE2/EE3
or
2.Sony is letting AMD manufacture the EE2/EE3 when completed


Well based on this article noting of the above has been said. Because if we go from this article then AMD is making the processor and not co producing anything. And if amd is co producing then they are not really doing anything. I mean we can speculate on many things but based on this article it seems athlon will be in p3? The person who posted this news is trying to make is seem as though p3 inside xbox  made  superior to ps2. Which i find to be very...very untrue. Because the p3 inside of xbox is not it\'s main processor and it only handles minor operation for xbox. This seems like some fanboy rivalry to me.

So what do we know of the beast? Well, to begin with Sony have chosen AMD (yes, those of the Athlon) to provide the processing power behind the machine, and while this may sound slightly inferior to many, considering their rivalry with Microsoft\'s best buddies, Intel, the machine is no slouch.

So amd providing the processing power means they they are making the processor. because to provide processing power you have to be making the processor. I think this is untrue. Because If Amd provides the processor for ps3 than that would make ps3 seem to be copying a microsoft like tatic. I think it is false and too see all you ps2 fans get so happy on amd just shows how bias you are at calling xbox names when ps3 would go right downt the street and get amd. I am just saying based on this article to have and athlon in the p3 would be so stupid. Why would sony abandon the EE.? This just makes no sense to me.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Trintius on February 27, 2001, 04:07:36 AM
AMD...but I thought the Emotion Engine was co-designed by Toshiba and Sony to challenge the x86 architecture and dethrone the company responsible for that architecture, Intel.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 27, 2001, 06:53:41 AM
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Originally posted by Robert R. Lawrence
God I hope AMD isn\'t involved there processors are ****, I\'d take Intel anyday over that crap, if sony puts a Pentium or Athlon in there console I would be a very sad man... But im confident Sony isn\'t that dumb and idiotic (Like bill gates)


ohh you better run.
The Athlon is soooo much faster than Intel\'s outdated CISC based crap.And it\'s cheaper to.
If Sony were to let AMD to design the EE.2 (along with themselves and Toshiba hopefully),basing it on the original EE they would come up with a monster of a system.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Samwise on February 27, 2001, 08:05:55 AM
As I said before... JUST CALM DOWN! Nobody knows anything for sure yet. PS3 is still some five years away, who cares what goes inside as long as it\'s helluva fast. I\'m pretty sure Sony wouldn\'t choose something bad for their next (next) gen console. But for all we know PS3 could have a Motorola chip... There\'s no point in speculating THIS early.

And BTW... AMD kicks Intel\'s sorry butt any day.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: on February 27, 2001, 12:11:11 PM
i don\'t wanna start getting exited about the ps3. I wanna see what sony has in store for the ps2. personally i reckon that the ps2 will stay top of the market for a lot longer than 5 years.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Sheesh on February 27, 2001, 12:33:01 PM
They only thing that makes sense to me about this AMD and Sony deal is that Sony is gonna have AMD help them manufacture and possibly do some of the R&D.  Nobody really thinks sony is gonna do away with their EE and GS, that would be stupid.  It makes sense to me that Sony is gaining the help and experience from AMD (the best damn processor makers in da world).
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ddaryl on February 27, 2001, 02:54:08 PM
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Originally posted by Trintius
AMD...but I thought the Emotion Engine was co-designed by Toshiba and Sony to challenge the x86 architecture and dethrone the company responsible for that architecture, Intel.


No it was designed to be the 1st true mulimedia processor. Which represents the future of gaming and set-top boxes
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: ddaryl on February 27, 2001, 02:55:18 PM
again people

IGN, Gamespot, Sonyweb, DR and FGN Online have reported no such thing

Does anyone really believe this website. If you ask me some teenager caught wind of some forum crap and posted it as news.

Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 27, 2001, 05:03:50 PM
Hey hey I posted this,just thought you guys would have liked to see this (this is Playstation related).Don\'t flame the messanger.
sheesh
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: Samwise on February 28, 2001, 06:01:57 AM
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Originally posted by nO-One
Hey hey I posted this,just thought you guys would have liked to see this (this is Playstation related).Don\'t flame the messanger.
sheesh
No, I think it\'s good you bring us such news. It\'s way better than those \'how long is your hair?\' topics. But it isn\'t necessarily untrue just because it hasn\'t been posted at IGN etc. Didn\'t this news come from Arstechnica? That\'s a very well respected site.
Title: AMD to provide the processing power for the PS.3
Post by: nO-One on February 28, 2001, 07:06:11 AM
Yeah I found it on the Ars forums.
And how long is your hair topics rule :D