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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: rlau1980 on March 05, 2001, 08:00:48 AM
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I have heard that Namco have signed a deal with Microsoft for rights to port over the games that were originally ps2 only bound. This is a big disappointment for me because I bought my PS2 so I could play on Namco games and tell x-box owners to stuff it up their ass. The thoughts of Ridgey and Tekken on the x-box makes me sick! Oh well, at least I will be able to play sega games on my baby!!!
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Its about the games... So what if X-baux has the games too, who cares. ITs about having fun.. I understand the need to tell the X-box fan boys to stuff it.. Its fun... But go after the game level is the wrong answer. Find something better against them...
peace
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yeah Namco are thinking of doing the same as Konami , but in that respect why buy a X Box just to play Tekken Tag a year behind everyone else.
only jokin
yeah this is a sensible move by namco
why ?
well for a start they increase there sales by having a larger market, this is no why in any shape or form a move to "ditch" the PS2 in anyway, hey theyer just trying to make more money.
maybe both microsoft and sony should make games for each other, then the world would be a happyer place :D.
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i donno.. Namco were developing for sega and we didn\'t see tekken. I don\'t think tekken will end up on xbox. Namco will properly develope for xbox. We will properly see SC2 on xbox. But i really don\'t see namco putting tekken, (Which i thought was excusive to sony) on xbox. I may be wrong.
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Namco just wants to make some fast $$$!
Xbox owners will be so desperate for game so they\'ll buy almost any crap game. Like RR5 :D
/FASTson
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Too bad some of you Sony fanboys are so threatened by XB you need to diss it, call it names, or (soulgrind) pretend you have a crystal ball. Buy what you like, don\'t buy what you don\'t like, and things will be fine. I think i\'ve been a pretty big critic of PS2 at times, but I never called it names. Grow up.
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Doesn\'t really matter to me.
But I don\'t think that Sony will let namco make Tekken for the X-Box since it\'s the biggest and most successful fighter on the Playstation.They want to have a few games that are Playstation only.
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\'Let\' them? Last time I checked, Sony couldn\'t stop Namco from doing anything they want to....
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\'Let\' them? Last time I checked, Sony couldn\'t stop Namco from doing anything they want to....
Ok tell us more about it.
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Ok tell us more about it.
Ok sit down little boy and I\'ll tell you how it is in the real world! You see Namco is an independent company that is not owned in any way by Sony so they can do what they want without permission from Sony.
Ask a stupid question and be condesending at the same time and you\'ll get it right back at you! Don\'t be stupid you know exactly whan EEthug meant Unicron!
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Oh wize one!
Why is the earth not flat??
How old is the earth? :)
I dont care if Namco releases one single game (port) for the xflop.
/FASTson
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Ok sit down little boy and I\'ll tell you how it is in the real world! You see Namco is an independent company that is not owned in any way by Sony so they can do what they want without permission from Sony.
Tell me something new.
Who told you I thought Nacmo wasnt indepentent???:rolleyes:
Excuse me but its easy to say something very general and right than saying something specific.
EThugg\'s aerology says nothing to me although I dont expect Namco to work exclusively with Sony.
I would like to hear what Nacmo did that Sony tried to prevent.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
EThugg\'s aerology says nothing to me although I dont expect Namco to work exclusively with Sony.
I would like to hear what Nacmo did that Sony tried to prevent.
Is english your first language? I\'m not dissin you, but what I said was pretty damn clear, and it was true.
faston: again with the name calling... your pretty critical for someone defending a system that has so far relied soley on upgraded PSone franchises....
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Originally posted by EThugg
Too bad some of you Sony fanboys are so threatened by XB you need to diss it, call it names, or (soulgrind) pretend you have a crystal ball. Buy what you like, don\'t buy what you don\'t like, and things will be fine. I think i\'ve been a pretty big critic of PS2 at times, but I never called it names. Grow up.
Dude I read the 1st couple of posts and I see no reason for you to turn this thread into some Xbox vs: PS2 rant
Nothing was said in the beginning of this thread that should upset you so much. Not one bad name was used to describe the XBox before you posted this...
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Dude I read the 1st couple of posts and I see no reason for you to turn this thread into some Xbox vs: PS2 rant
Nothing was said in the beginning of this thread that should upset you so much. Not one bad name was used to describe the XBox before you posted this...
Faston said some not so nice things, plus Soulgrind, a mod no less, made a very untrue statement about Tekken. Sure, he said he may be wrong, but it\'s lots of little comments that are unfounded that can chip away at casual gamers confidence in a console. Look at DC, a great system, did well, but could of done better. Why didn\'t it? Many reasons, but one was that every news article about DC, even positive ones, threw in a doubtul comment about \'can DC really last\'. It, like I said, it chips away at confidence in a console. Sure, you and me won\'t change our minds \'cause of it, but lots of easily influenced, uninformed people can be. Soulgrind\'s a respected figure on the forums, so someone who casually visits, will see a unfair critisizm and be influenced. It\'s not very responsable. Anyways, fastons comments certainly warrented a response. Also, I skimmed through what kirath said, and while not a mean name as such, X-baux isn\'t the name of the system...
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Ethugg
Nothing discussed on interent forums will have any effect on the final outcome of Xbox PS2, or GC or even the DC
I say 95% of console buyers never visit a game forum
so your worries IMO are completely unwarranted.
the opinions stated here are opinions, alot of them I agree with.
If Xbox is going to try and make a name for itself with PS2 re-hashes its over for Xbox. MS has to provide the world with its own exclusive content and nothing said in this thread changes that.
There have been little if any exclusive games announced for Xbox from the Japanese.
I personnally loathe the thought of Xbox having PS2 games cause I obviously have no use for an Xbox then. Since I have n0 intention of buying a Gamecube I\'m pulling for MS to create more original titles that seperates itself from the PS2 in alota ways.
Also the name calling started well after your original post on this thread, and was quite mellow.
Ethugg there are lots and lots of MS Xbox haters out there and this is something MS has to eliminate. Goto DR or IGN web forums and you will see how large the MS Xbox hate goes. There is nothing you can do to eliminate it, MS and Xbox have to win that respect the hard way
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
But i really don\'t see namco putting tekken, (Which i thought was excusive to sony) on xbox. I may be wrong.
no tekken is not owned by sony, tekken is laso going ot GBA and very possible gamecube, but i don\'t think namco will ditch the ps2 look at the amount of games they have in planning for the system
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That\'s the problem
anytime a 3rd party announces support of competing consoles everyone who is non PS2 or PS2 paranoid starts screaming "Developers are leaving"
We see this with Capcom, Konami and will probably see it with Namco as well
They\'ll produce some of there popular stuff and a original or 3 on other consoles but always announce more games for the PS2
this may change in a few years but obviously most 3rd parties are concentrating hard on the PS2
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Maybe I overreacted ddaryl, but name all the PS2 \'rehashes\'. Most games I see on both systems (like a lot of Konami games) arent ports, theyre announced around the same time, and could be released the same time. Silent Hill 2 (just a example) was NEVER a \'PS2 only\' game, and will likely be released on both systems around the same time. That means its not a port. While there arent a lot of exclusives (yet announced) there arent as many \'PS2 ports\' as everyone acts like. And IMO Munch and Malice are worth the price of admission alone.
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Originally posted by EThugg
While there arent a lot of exclusives (yet announced) there arent as many \'PS2 ports\' as everyone acts like. And IMO Munch and Malice are worth the price of admission alone.
Malice looks so good!! I am thinking about getting an Xbox for that game alone. I also like that new MMORPG that got in developement, Fate.
I hope Microsoft does get some exclusives and some more japanesse support. Right now, things don\'t look so good. They need a really good RPG to impress Japan. Or just an announcement that Square is involved in Xbox. That would sell systems alone.
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Originally posted by EThugg
Maybe I overreacted ddaryl, but name all the PS2 \'rehashes\'. Most games I see on both systems (like a lot of Konami games) arent ports, theyre announced around the same time, and could be released the same time. Silent Hill 2 (just a example) was NEVER a \'PS2 only\' game, and will likely be released on both systems around the same time. That means its not a port. While there arent a lot of exclusives (yet announced) there arent as many \'PS2 ports\' as everyone acts like. And IMO Munch and Malice are worth the price of admission alone.
I wouldn\'t buy any system for a pair of games. I want long term guarentee\'s. No video game in the world is worth a $300 system investment
Munch\'s and Malice and Halo are great but its no where near enough to persuade the majority.
As for PS2 re-hashes, XBox fans everywhere do cartwheels at any mention of PS2 games coming to the Xbox. Then they get all pissed off when they find out its not what they expected. Also its Silent Hill X not Silent Hill 2 unless I missed a press conference just like MGSX
If Xbox is going to survive they need to show off at least 20+ games all original that look visibly better then anything on the PS2 to even survive. If there going to survive in Japan they better start showing off some Japanese developed original content with the same obvious visible improvements or its over for Xbox.
I\'m interested in Xbox but so far they haven\'t shown me enough YET to warrant a purchase. Gamestock is later this week, and TGS and E3 are close if MS comes up short here it won\'t look good
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Originally posted by ddaryl
I wouldn\'t buy any system for a pair of games. I want long term guarentee\'s. No video game in the world is worth a $300 system investment
[spam]NiGHTS got me to invest 300$ into a Saturn 5 years ago and I don\'t regret it one bit.
NiGHTS=best game ever.
[/spam]:D
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Originally posted by EThugg
Too bad some of you Sony fanboys are so threatened by XB you need to diss it, call it names, or (soulgrind) pretend you have a crystal ball. Buy what you like, don\'t buy what you don\'t like, and things will be fine. I think i\'ve been a pretty big critic of PS2 at times, but I never called it names. Grow up.
are u totally stupid. My post was PURE opinion. Not fact. I posted it as opinion. Do u have a problem understanding the english language.
Here let me BREAK it up so even someone like u can understand it.
I donno.. Namco were developing for sega and we didn\'t see tekken. I don\'t think tekken will end up on xbox.
I didn\'t say it WON\'T end up on xbox. I said I don\'t THINK it will. My OWN opinion.
Namco will properly develop for xbox. We will properly see SC2 on xbox. But i really don\'t see namco putting tekken, (Which i thought was exclusive to sony) on xbox. I may be wrong.
Now read the the letters in bold....
I = me..
I thought = Not sure. OR past tense, Used to be. But I used to think they were.
Are u starting to understand this.. All i was saying. Is that NAMCO developed for SEGA, and we didn\'t see any tekken games on DC.
So to say they are or ARE NOT going to make tekken on xbox right now is just speculation.
Also, I will be getting xbox in a few years. About 1 year after it\'s release. Call me a fanboy all u want. I will have DC, PS2 and Xbox.. Hmmm :D
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Originally posted by EThugg
Is english your first language? I\'m not dissin you, but what I said was pretty damn clear, and it was true.
No my first language is greek.Wonder why you ask.
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Originally posted by ddaryl
As for PS2 re-hashes, XBox fans everywhere do cartwheels at any mention of PS2 games coming to the Xbox. Then they get all pissed off when they find out its not what they expected. Also its Silent Hill X not Silent Hill 2 unless I missed a press conference just like MGSX
If Xbox is going to survive they need to show off at least 20+ games all original that look visibly better then anything on the PS2 to even survive. If there going to survive in Japan they better start showing off some Japanese developed original content with the same obvious visible improvements or its over for Xbox.
I\'m interested in Xbox but so far they haven\'t shown me enough YET to warrant a purchase. Gamestock is later this week, and TGS and E3 are close if MS comes up short here it won\'t look good
At this point pre-PS2 launch, PS2 didn\'t have 20+ exclusives that looked better than DC games, in fact, they still don\'t.
And it\'s well worth $300 for even a handful of good games, ****, Spiderman on 32X alone just went for more than that on Ebay...
No one here knows what SHX or MGSX is, and thats why Im waiting to see. But even if they arent the \'2\'s redone, they\'ll likely look better and play as good as the PS2 games. I\'d rather spent my $50 on the best game...
Soulgrind: We talked on ICQ, but just so everone knows, I apologized, I did overreact.
I was very defensive because 1-XB bashing is just so common despite that half the criticizm is speculation based, 2-It was late, and I was a bit tired and irritable and 3- I just got off ICQ from some ppl were I had to defend XB against some stupid arguments. No they dont excuse what I said, but I meant to be mean to faston, and Soulgrind accepted my apology.
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Well Ethugg
I wouldn\'t pick up a game for Xbox a year later that supposedly "looks" better. Thats ludicrous.
You are wrong the PS2 did have 20 exclusives at launch. Graphically they didn\'t look better or much better then the DC, but Sony and the PS2 is way different then Xbox cause you know what was coming on the PS2. With Xbox its a giant ??????? and until there are 20 eclusives announced for the machine that look considerably better then PS2 offering (they don\'t all have to be launch titles) I will hold off on Xbox
Heck if I don\'t get an Xbox I won\'t miss a thing simply because there are so many awesome games coming out on the PS2 this year into next
The only way I will even consider picking up an Xbox is if they have lots of exclusives, even if I own an Xbox and a PS2, I would play any game that was released on both the PS2 and Xbox on the PS2.
But thats because I rather see Sony succeed over MS for a ton of personal reasons.
IMO Xbox needs to be differet then GC and PS2, needs to be graphically better then top PS2 and GC games , and has to get exclusive games that I cannot get on the PS2 for me to consider dropping my hard earned cash on an Xbox
I would never in my entire life spenfd $300 to play 2 or 4 games, I don\'t care how good people say they are I have a family and a ton of financial responsibility so if I spend money on a 2nd console it better be VERY woth it, and 3-4 games doesn\'t come close
ALso people who overbid on Ebat are morons, so that analogy was no good
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Yeah, Namco is going multi-platform... Just like they\'ve been saying they wanted to.
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Originally posted by thy_toothpick
Yeah, Namco is going multi-platform... Just like they\'ve been saying they wanted to.
they always have benn multi platform
thats why this thread is kind of a joke
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Well, yes, but now it seems that they\'re more serious about being multi-platform.
IGN Cube article:
"Namco Japan reported today that it expects a loss of more than $55 million for this quarter. The company attributes the massive dip to poor sales of its PlayStation 2 products for the year. Namco believes the slow sales can be blamed on Sony\'s failure to deliver enough PlayStation 2 consoles in Japan, as it had promised.
The most interesting bit of news from Namco\'s financial statement, however, comes with the official confirmation from the company that it plans to throw its support behind Nintendo\'s next-generation GameCube console. No details were given about what software to expect, but IGNcube has been able to confirm through sources that at least two titles are in development -- versions of Ridge Racer V and Tekken Tag Tournament. No word on if these titles will be enhanced over their PlayStation 2 counterparts. Both games are expected at system launch in Japan.
Interestingly, Namco made no mention of Microsoft\'s Xbox in its official financial statement.
More as it becomes available."
http://cube.ign.com/news/31962.html
I\'m not sure about what things the Xbox will get. The DC... I don\'t think it was the best example of Namco support. :)
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Well Ethugg
I wouldn\'t pick up a game for Xbox a year later that supposedly "looks" better. Thats ludicrous.
You are wrong the PS2 did have 20 exclusives at launch. Graphically they didn\'t look better or much better then the DC, but Sony and the PS2 is way different then Xbox cause you know what was coming on the PS2. With Xbox its a giant ??????? and until there are 20 eclusives announced for the machine that look considerably better then PS2 offering (they don\'t all have to be launch titles) I will hold off on Xbox
Heck if I don\'t get an Xbox I won\'t miss a thing simply because there are so many awesome games coming out on the PS2 this year into next
The only way I will even consider picking up an Xbox is if they have lots of exclusives, even if I own an Xbox and a PS2, I would play any game that was released on both the PS2 and Xbox on the PS2.
But thats because I rather see Sony succeed over MS for a ton of personal reasons.
IMO Xbox needs to be differet then GC and PS2, needs to be graphically better then top PS2 and GC games , and has to get exclusive games that I cannot get on the PS2 for me to consider dropping my hard earned cash on an Xbox
I would never in my entire life spenfd $300 to play 2 or 4 games, I don\'t care how good people say they are I have a family and a ton of financial responsibility so if I spend money on a 2nd console it better be VERY woth it, and 3-4 games doesn\'t come close
ALso people who overbid on Ebat are morons, so that analogy was no good
1-I thought we were only counting *good* exclusives. If we count any exclusives, check the list of over 100 titles announced for XB so far, at least 20 are exclusive to XB... on consoles anyways....
2-Games a year later? SHX, MGSX etc have no release date yet. They could be released around the same time, and if you\'d rather buy a inferior version, well, thats your choice...
3-Im only 20 and I own a nice house. I\'m well aware of financial responsability.
I won\'t argue about Ebay overbidders, but if MS has nothing great by E3, then worry. At this point they already got a handful of great exclusives, the financial backing of a extremely rich company, according to Next Gen, EGM etc a dedicated bunch of ppl working behind every aspect of XB, the easiest console development, and a lot of potential. I\'d say unless they screw up at E3 reeeeaaal bad, that they deserve a chance, and their product will be worth the cash.
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Originally posted by EThugg
1-I thought we were only counting *good* exclusives. If we count any exclusives, check the list of over 100 titles announced for XB so far, at least 20 are exclusive to XB... on consoles anyways....
2-Games a year later? SHX, MGSX etc have no release date yet. They could be released around the same time, and if you\'d rather buy a inferior version, well, thats your choice...
3-Im only 20 and I own a nice house. I\'m well aware of financial responsability.
I won\'t argue about Ebay overbidders, but if MS has nothing great by E3, then worry. At this point they already got a handful of great exclusives, the financial backing of a extremely rich company, according to Next Gen, EGM etc a dedicated bunch of ppl working behind every aspect of XB, the easiest console development, and a lot of potential. I\'d say unless they screw up at E3 reeeeaaal bad, that they deserve a chance, and their product will be worth the cash.
Yeah I agree I mean if i had the choice of buying madden on ps2 or madden on n64. Which one would i choose? Madden on ps2 because i know it is much better game in every way. So if xbox has some 3rd party titles from playstion it is fine with me as long as they are far better than what they where on ps2, I mean if it looks exactly the same and feels the same then it is a dead investment. Like TTT if that was to go onto xbox then it would have to be a whole lot better than the ps2 version or why buy it? Makes no sense.