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Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: mm on March 05, 2001, 09:14:55 AM
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Nintendo apparently can\'t take the heat -- THQ will handle publication of Rare\'s controversial Conker\'s Bad Fur Day


nintendo just lost ANY scrap of respect i had for them.
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: politiepet on March 05, 2001, 09:20:29 AM
You sure hate nintendo, what does your mon...chimp think?
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Post by: Jumpman on March 05, 2001, 09:34:53 AM
Uuummm...NO.

Rare is publishing this game in America.

You got the THQ thing all wrong. RARE didn\'t want to release CBFD in Europe, but THQ said the\'ll publish the game there so it will be released in Europe now.

Read.

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THQ Conkers Europe

Conker\'s Bad Fur Day to release in Europe courtesy of publisher THQ. Details here.

March 2, 2001

Great news for European Nintendo 64 owners who thought they\'d never be able to get their hands on the upcoming Rare action-platformer Conker\'s Bad Fur Day. Publisher THQ, through an agreement with Rare and Nintendo of America, told IGN64 today that it would be distributing the game overseas this April, just one month after the title\'s March 5 release in the US.
"We\'re excited to be partnering with Rare and Nintendo of America on this revolutionary game,” stated Tim Walsh, senior vice president, international publishing, THQ. “Rare has broken all genre barriers with Conker’s Bad Fur Day delivering exceptional graphics, solid gameplay and an innovative story rich with truly unforgettable characters.”

Meanwhile, Nintendo Europe commented:

"Nintendo of Europe is pleased to confirm that Conker\'s Bad Fur Day will be released by THQ International across Europe for the Nintendo 64. Nintendo of Europe decided against publishing the game following a full commercial appraisal. It is the policy of Nintendo of Europe to translate our games into the native language of the region where it will be released and due to its text-heavy content, the cost of localising Conker\'s Bad Fur Day would not be commercially viable. Nintendo is pleased that the English-language version of Conker\'s Bad Fur Day will be available - through THQ - for N64 fans across Europe."

The official release on THQ\'s distribution deal will hit the wire tomorrow morning.


http://ign64.ign.com/news/31981.html
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Post by: EmperorRob on March 05, 2001, 09:46:16 AM
I guess they\'re conscientious about Europe for some reason.  I really don\'t care b/c I think the game will suck anyway just like about 80% of the rest of the trash for N64.  Oooohhh Aaahhhh it\'s a squirrel that cusses.  Give me a ****ing break, ****head!  There I cussed for you and I won\'t charge $60 for it.
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Post by: EThugg on March 05, 2001, 11:11:13 AM
I\'m getting it cause I like platformers.... and the crudeness is still more fun that a story revolving around a bear and witches....
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Post by: on March 05, 2001, 11:38:24 AM
That game looks alot like all the other platform games on n64.

You should spend your money on PS2 games.
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Post by: on March 05, 2001, 11:59:00 AM
I have no interest in this game.  It just looks like a game for the immature.  It is for Middle Schoolers that get their laughs out of farts and "potty mouth."  This game will make people look cool! ;)
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Post by: on March 05, 2001, 02:19:13 PM
Like Jumpman said, you got the story wrong. Just to add to that, there are a few things to consider.

1) Most of of the jokes don\'t translate well to other languages (that\'s why it says the English version will be available across Europe - they won\'t be translating it).


2) Nintendo of Europe operates primarily outside of the UK ( i.e. non-English speaking countires), making it pointless for them to do it.

3) Nintendo hasn\'t published ANY of its N64 games in the UK. A company called THE distributed Nintendo\'s games there, but a little while back, their contract with Nintendo expired, and it was not renewed (there were a lot of complaints they weren\'t doing a good job anyway). So Nintendo is still in the process of setting up their own distribution system there.
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Post by: unknown on March 05, 2001, 02:22:54 PM
why do you guys hate nintendo, im gonna buy a GC when it comes out. its like the pionner og consoles, it came out before ps, sega, its cool.
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Post by: AlteredBeast on March 05, 2001, 03:48:33 PM
you guys know my opinion on this game, as I am one of the few none game reviewers who has seen and played the full complete version for more than 5 minutes.

I originally thought NoA was publishing this in America. At least that is the notion I get from that news piece.

Eric Jacob
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Post by: Jumpman on March 05, 2001, 03:52:21 PM
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Originally posted by Marshall
That game looks alot like all the other platform games on n64.

You should spend your money on PS2 games.

So what if it does? Is that a reason to not play this game? Thats pretty pathetic if you ask me. Don\'t judge a game by how it looks.

Spend money on PS2 games and miss out on a golden opportunity? **** that.

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I have no interest in this game. It just looks like a game for the immature. It is for Middle Schoolers that get their laughs out of farts and "potty mouth." This game will make people look cool!

Meh. It\'s better than any pitiful excuse for a platform game on  PS2. Quit complaining.
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Post by: AlteredBeast on March 05, 2001, 04:13:25 PM
better than Rayman 2 revolution? are you sure? that has to be the best platformer I have ever played, many people, even reviewers agree with that statement!

unknown - sorry, nintendo was after magnavox, atari, sega (sc-1000, sg-1000, mark 3), intellivision, coleco,sears, etc!

Eric Jacob
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Post by: ElAsesino on March 05, 2001, 04:24:16 PM
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
I guess they\'re conscientious about Europe for some reason.  I really don\'t care b/c I think the game will suck anyway just like about 80% of the rest of the trash for N64.  Oooohhh Aaahhhh it\'s a squirrel that cusses.  Give me a ****ing break, ****head!  There I cussed for you and I won\'t charge $60 for it.



OMG you live in Arkansas too?  

You probably have lived here all your life, unlike me.  (I\'m in a military family.  We\'ve been everywhere)

You\'re probably just a hillbilly "back yonder"

Oh well, I\'m surprised you even know what videogames are, and judging by the way you act, I\'m glad that I didn\'t grow up in Arkansas or I\'d act just like you.  

(shudders at the thought)
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: Jumpman on March 05, 2001, 04:49:43 PM
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better than Rayman 2 revolution? are you sure? that has to be the best platformer I have ever played, many people, even reviewers agree with that statement!

Sure they do.

Actually, I was going to say " its a lot better than that ****ty Raymen2 game" but I just couldn\'t fit the words properly so I pulled a cheap shot and said PS2.:D

IMO, Raymen2 for DC sucked Llmama\'a  anus.
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Post by: EmperorRob on March 05, 2001, 05:28:10 PM
Did I hurt your feelings El-Ass-ino? :laughing:

I\'d apologize if the things I said weren\'t true.   Get to steppin, Essay.

Why is it every time someone talks about the quality of video games for a system, some fool takes it as a personal insult like you just called his mom a dirty whore?
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Post by: Waspman on March 05, 2001, 06:03:19 PM
Is this game originally called Conker? That was in development 2 years ago when GoldenEye was hot.I got the magazine...initially they said it was a 2 player decent game.

What is wrong with being cute and decent like Banjo Twee? I mean are the developers going nuts or what ..you don\'t have to make games that seems abusive to attract peoples attention.

This game doesn\'t seem funny to me.
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: on March 05, 2001, 06:24:31 PM
My opinion is pretty split on this game.  

First of all, to set things straight, Nintendo now lets Rare publish all its games in the United States.  So Conker was and still is going to be published by Rare, though definitely with Nintendo\'s blessing.  As for the THQ deal, that\'s just in Europe.  Nintendo of Europe is extremely weak as a distributor, so they\'re letting THQ distribute the game and handle the complex localization details.

So I haven\'t lost any respect for Nintendo because they\'re not publishing this game, because they basically are.  My problem is with the game itself.  Why is Nintendo encouraging one of its second parties to make this game?  The humor seems really lowbrow, and the huge "M" rating is pretty ironic, because it is probably the least mature game ever made.  I mean, what\'s up with the farting and poop humor?  That\'s the kind of stuff that appeals to adolescents, not the "over 17" market that Nintendo usually targets.  

On the plus side, the game is getting some impressive reviews (http://ign64.ign.com/reviews/13960.html), and they seem to indicate that it\'s a definite break from Rare\'s tedious platformers.  I played some Banjo-Kazooie and DK64, and they had nice graphics, but they were some of the worst games ever.  So at least Conker\'s not that.  And the Matrix-spoofing scenes (http://metalsonic0.tripod.com/conkermatrix.gif) look pretty cool.

So it could be decent, or it could really suck.  I just hope Nintendo doesn\'t think this suddenly makes them mature.  Unpredictable maybe, but not mature.
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Post by: Jumpman on March 05, 2001, 09:21:56 PM
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I mean, what\'s up with the farting and poop humor? That\'s the kind of stuff that appeals to adolescents, not the "over 17" market that Nintendo usually targets.

There is more to the game then just farting and poop. There is also VERY strong language, lots of blood, VERY mature humour(Conker pissing out a fire), crude jokes, ect.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmetalsonic0.tripod.com%2Fconkermatrix.gif&hash=ba1a3c19135e224acbc173098febc70c28ddbfd7)
Holy ****! What a great new pic!!! Thanks.
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Post by: Ginko on March 05, 2001, 09:26:35 PM
LOL!!!! I love the pic...I\'m going to pick up the game this weekend...
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Post by: mm on March 05, 2001, 09:34:18 PM
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its like the pionner og consoles, it came out before ps, sega, its cool


how dare u say that?

sega = the pioneer of consoles

it was thier downfall also.  

nintendo = sit back, wait, and copy
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Post by: Crippler on March 05, 2001, 09:44:56 PM
politiepet !

Your Homer pic rocks :)

That is all..
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 06, 2001, 01:10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Jumpman

There is more to the game then just farting and poop. There is also VERY strong language, lots of blood, VERY mature humour(Conker pissing out a fire), crude jokes, ect.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmetalsonic0.tripod.com%2Fconkermatrix.gif&hash=ba1a3c19135e224acbc173098febc70c28ddbfd7)
Holy ****! What a great new pic!!! Thanks.


Wow! A Matrix spoof! I\'m amazed. :rolleyes:

Blood?!? No way! Mortal Kombat had that. Infact, I think Mortal Kombat Gold had it, wait, yeah it did. I better go rush and like that game! And D2, it had cussing! I love that game!

Seriously, the gameplay may be great. But, I am not amazed with the stupid humor. Matrix spoofs? It was stupid in "Scarey Movie" and the other fifty movies that spoofed it. I don\'t see it being so amusing in a video game either. Farting and cussing? Oh and smoking! Not amazing, I\'m sorry.

Here is the funny part. Jumpman keeps bringing up how reviewers are hailing Conkers has a great game, therefor it must be one. But, yet he says Rayman 2 was ****ty, but reviewers also loved that game. So, it must of been cool. Or could it be that reviewers just have opinions? And that Conkers could of came out with N64 trademark blurry textures, typical Rare gameplay and you\'d still hail it as a great game?

In my opinion, we have had this discussion before in the Off-Topic section. I\'ll rent Conkers, but I will not buy it. From what I read, the gameplay is suppose to be solid but short for someone who has a clue with platform games. Yes, it has multi-player modes, but I\'m not interested in them. Not to mention, I wouldn\'t be caught dead paying up to $60 dollars for a friggin\' game all because Nintendo refused to adopt the cd format.

And I\'ll show alot more interest in Nintendo home consoles when they treat them with proper respect like they did with the Super NES. But it seems all that "talent" and what not went into the GBA. Go figure.
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Post by: Hawke on March 06, 2001, 01:27:53 AM
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Originally posted by Jumpman
VERY mature humour(Conker pissing out a fire)...


Err, yes. There goes your credibility, buh-bye. Or then you were joking there?

Does anyone else find that sort of humor VERY mature? I prefer jokes with some originality and thought. Ones including inane usage of bodily extracts are more suited to some 12 year old pre-pubescent kids imo.
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Post by: Sublimesjg on March 06, 2001, 08:46:16 AM
ye athis game just isn\'t all that to me

its just another Nintendo platformer and i am not much of a platformer fan so i just don\'t like them

nothing against nintendo - i think they will do a great job this time around
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Post by: Darth Joyda on March 06, 2001, 09:59:04 AM
Nintendo is trying for the last and final time ( I HOPE ) to marry the adults to its side by splashing CBFD into the markets.

But what is that game about?

It is just the final rope thrown out of the swamp where N64 sank long time ago, and we\'ve known for long time that it won\'t get up from there. Not even with the aid of Bad Fur Day.

The game is about overstuffed violence and pervertic quotes. Does this represent mature humor in you? Is this really the game wich adults will love?

Rare was stupid. I completely agree with mm. Nintendo lost ALL the respect I had in it. And N64 stays "kiddish" ( the ppl won\'t forget the tag for one game, if they even care about N64 anymore ).

This game is just SO made. Made just to show all those whom accuse N64 is console for kids. Everything is thrown too far, and the rope doesn\'t catch the tree it was meant to. I watched the trailer, for pure interest. Ok, a hot chick. So what? Does it convince me to spend a helluva pile of cash to a game? No.

Then I see some shots of the game. All I see is violence far too over the lines. Violence wich is too shown. Violence wich is just shown because Nintendo wants to show it ain\'t a company for kids.

And all this for nothing. Boy how nintendo can be stupid... Rare should\'ve left the project of BFD long time ago, when they still could...
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Post by: Jumpman on March 06, 2001, 11:05:24 AM
To LIC and Hawke- have you actually seen any movies of this game? I doubt it. The humor involves ****, testes, pusss.......tit..... you get the point. A little kid wouldn\'t understand that kind of humor. Only an adult would.

Why did Rare make this game? Because they wanted to let developers know that any type of game could be done on Nintendo\'s system.
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Post by: Joker on March 06, 2001, 11:15:54 AM
****s, tits, and pussy oh my :rolleyes:

Just because only an adult might undertand it does not make it mature at all, Conkers isn\'t comedic in anyway its actually very immature from what i\'ve seen.

The ONE AND ONLY thing I thought was even remotely amusing abotu the thing was the video where the bee polinates the flower and they do a zoom in on conkers face where he is showing disgust. I\'ll admit I chuckled there but thats it. The blood looks like gobs of something and not actual blood...it looks like it comes out in blocks so that don\'t make it much more hardcore/mature of a game IMO.

I\'m not here to argue but your sense of humour seems to differ with the general majority.
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Post by: ElAsesino on March 06, 2001, 02:27:53 PM
Why does everyone keep saying that Nintendo made this game???

Nintendo didn\'t make it, because Rare made the game.

Oh well, I agree with everyone else (except the hating Nintendo part), that Conker is indeed immature.

Face it folks, if you want a mature themed game on a Nintendo console you\'ll have to wait for Eternal Darkness (N64) or GC.

Specifically, Too Human (GC) is what I\'m talking about.

Everyone who has a PSOne should know what Too Human is.

After all, it was supposed to be a system seller.  Right?  So, that should at least get your attention.


Also, EmperRob, it looks like you didn\'t exactly understand what I was saying.

See, you are biased, and I was saying that I was glad I wasn\'t biased like you.

 Also, how did I take any of what you said personally?  Why would I take the word of a fanboy seriously?
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 06, 2001, 03:22:16 PM
Movie spoofs, sexual jokes, ciggs, pissing on things is NOT mature. Its 5th grade humor. No, Nintendo did not make this game. But lets face it, they had been very controlling on mature games, but this one slipped by? It couldn\'t be an effort to say "We\'re mature, damnit!" now could it?

While an excellent game it may be. It could of been just as excellent without the stupid moronic humor. But then no one would of cared, would they? It would of been just another typical release from Rare.

;)
Title: Conker
Post by: on March 06, 2001, 06:12:42 PM
"I think the game will suck anyway just like about 80% of the rest of the trash for N64. Oooohhh Aaahhhh it\'s a squirrel that cusses."

 I don\'t think you\'ve read much about this game or the reviews for this game--Its been getting great reviews from nearly everyone who has reviewed it (the one major downfall being its relatively short life). Like all games, everyone won’t like it, but from whats been shown so far, Conker will not be a sucky game.

Besides, CBFD is more than the average platformer from Rare. Its new, its different, and it doesn\'t involve endless collecting and repetitiveness.  

"That game looks alot like all the other platform games on n64."

 Maybe it does look like this at first, but after I have read up on the game, I see that its very different and not just another Banjo clone. It really isn’t just another platformer.

"It\'s been a long time coming, but finally the collection of heart pieces, rings, stars, and jiggies has an alternative in Conker\'s quest for cash. "       --Gamespot


"sega = the pioneer of consoles

it was thier downfall also.

nintendo = sit back, wait, and copy"



Right...


"Wow! A Matrix spoof! I\'m amazed.

Blood?!? No way! Mortal Kombat had that. Infact, I think Mortal Kombat Gold had it, wait, yeah it did. I better go rush and like that game! And D2, it had cussing! I love that game!

Seriously, the gameplay may be great. But, I am not amazed with the stupid humor. Matrix spoofs? It was stupid in "Scarey Movie" and the other fifty movies that spoofed it. I don\'t see it being so amusing in a video game either. Farting and cussing? Oh and smoking! Not amazing, I\'m sorry."


 So maybe the game is not for you--however, there are people that will enjoy this game, I\'m sure. The thing that was funny about the spoofs was that there was one after another (ie: saving private ryan, matrix, etc...) in a very comical and ironic form. The point isn’t that theres blood or cussing in CBFD—Its that it has everying from cussing, blood, sexual explicit, etc… to toilet humor….

"And that Conkers could of came out with N64 trademark blurry textures, typical Rare gameplay and you\'d still hail it as a great game?"

Its nice you say "could of came out", because, not only does Conker have some of the best gfx seen so far on the N64, but it strays from the familiar Rare platformer (which is a good thing).

"In my opinion, we have had this discussion before in the Off-Topic section. I\'ll rent Conkers, but I will not buy it. From what I read, the gameplay is suppose to be solid but short for someone who has a clue with platform games. Yes, it has multi-player modes, but I\'m not interested in them. Not to mention, I wouldn\'t be caught dead paying up to $60 dollars for a friggin\' game all because Nintendo refused to adopt the cd format."

 I won\'t buy the game, I might not even rent it. However, I would suggest that this is the way to go, renting the game, because they say its easily beatable in around 15 hours.

"And I\'ll show alot more interest in Nintendo home consoles when they treat them with proper respect like they did with the Super NES. But it seems all that "talent" and what not went into the GBA. Go figure."

 Right--Now Nintendo isn\'t showing \'proper respect\' to their consoles? Theres a new one.
 
    And now all their talent has gone into the GBA? Hmmmm…

"Nintendo is trying for the last and final time ( I HOPE ) to marry the adults to its side by splashing CBFD into the markets."

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Nintendo did acquire the Canadian developer (now 2nd party) Silicon Knights, which will be releasing games targeted for the older market (And no, they won\'t release games like CBFD) such as Too Human and Eternal Darkness (rpgs)

Also, you are right that Nintendo is trying to make a point…However, I don’t think it’s the point you think.

"It is just the final rope thrown out of the swamp where N64 sank long time ago, and we\'ve known for long time that it won\'t get up from there. Not even with the aid of Bad Fur Day."

Its way too late for the N64 to change around (especially with what? 5 games in its life left?). I don\'t think thats what they\'re saying. I think it was more of a statement that Nintendo has changed from their old ways (such as cencorship, etc...). They will allow these type of games on the market.

"From what I can tell, it appears to be a game developed solely to send the following message out to the world: Nintendo and Rare are not all about kiddie games."

“Third-party publishers now know that if they make a game with suggestive themes, that game may now appear on Nintendo consoles."

 --Gamespot

 I think that’s more of the point they were trying to make.


"The game is about overstuffed violence and pervertic quotes. Does this represent mature humor in you? Is this really the game wich adults will love?"

It is about all that stuff… Crude and toilet humor, etc… but it is still funny to certain people nonetheless.

"I thought what I saw of Conker\'s BFD was crude, base, gratuitously violent, and knee-slappingly hysterical. Anyone 18 to 30 with a penchant for vulgarity and pop culture references will likely find it to be the same. With this said, there is no doubt in my mind that this is a game that is totally inappropriate for kids."  -Gamespot
Title: Conker #2
Post by: on March 06, 2001, 06:15:23 PM
"Rare was stupid. I completely agree with mm. Nintendo lost ALL the respect I had in it. And N64 stays "kiddish" ( the ppl won\'t forget the tag for one game, if they even care about N64 anymore )."

 I don\'t think Nintendo ever tried to change the N64. Why should they? On its final legs with few games coming out for it, why [and how] try to change it to fit a different demographic? That would be impossible.  

"This game is just SO made. Made just to show all those whom accuse N64 is console for kids. Everything is thrown too far, and the rope doesn\'t catch the tree it was meant to. I watched the trailer, for pure interest. Ok, a hot chick. So what? Does it convince me to spend a helluva pile of cash to a game? No."

This game was made to make a statement—just not the one you’re thinking of. I don’t think any one game could change it.

"Then I see some shots of the game. All I see is violence far too over the lines. Violence wich is too shown. Violence wich is just shown because Nintendo wants to show it ain\'t a company for kids."

"Conker\'s Bad Fur Day is shockingly fun and will undoubtedly change the way video games are made forever...  While the subject matter of the game is certainly not meant for younger audiences, the majority of the jokes are really what most mature adults would deem immature toilet humor. Previous Rare games have been laced with similar humor in the past, but Conker\'s BFD takes everything over the top."  -Gamespot

There is a ton of violence in the game… its just what its about.
 
"And all this for nothing. Boy how nintendo can be stupid... Rare should\'ve left the project of BFD long time ago, when they still could..."

 Now Nintendo is stupid? Maybe you aren’t grasping what their real intentions were for this game.

"Just because only an adult might undertand it does not make it mature at all, Conkers isn\'t comedic in anyway its actually very immature from what i\'ve seen."

It really isn’t very mature at all, but it is inappropriate for children (thus the Mature rating). And actually, from the reviews on the game, they seem to enjoy it and think its a real funny game.

"I thought what I saw of Conker\'s BFD was crude, base, gratuitously violent, and knee-slappingly hysterical. Anyone 18 to 30 with a penchant for vulgarity and pop culture references will likely find it to be the same. With this said, there is no doubt in my mind that this is a game that is totally inappropriate for kids."  -Gamespot

Funny, yes. But mature? Not really—I don’t even think the game was meant to be mature—just targeted at the slightly older audiences.

 "I\'ve watched a good amount of Shane Satterfield playing through Conker here in the office, and on several occasions I couldn\'t hold in my laughter. The subject matter was so off-color; I was constantly questioning whether I had actually seen what was going on in the game. "They couldn\'t put that in a video game!" I\'d say, just to be proven wrong, time and time again." -Gamespot

"The blood looks like gobs of something and not actual blood...it looks like it comes out in blocks so that don\'t make it much more hardcore/mature of a game IMO."

 Oh, it requires real-looking blood to be considered a mature game? Conker is cartoony...  

"I\'m not here to argue but your sense of humour seems to differ with the general majority."
 
 Certain people who have reviewed the game... they think the game is really hilarious. Its obviously not for everyone, and everyone won\'t think its funny.

"Movie spoofs, sexual jokes, ciggs, pissing on things is NOT mature. Its 5th grade humor. No, Nintendo did not make this game. But lets face it, they had been very controlling on mature games, but this one slipped by? It couldn\'t be an effort to say "We\'re mature, damnit!" now could it?"

No... I don\'t think so--rather, I think it was more of a, "[While we [Nintendo] won\'t release a game like this], we won\'t be censoring, etc... and will be allowing these types of games to hit the market." Type of thing.
"Conker\'s Bad Fur Day may be the most important game ever released on a Nintendo system...While Conker\'s BFD likely won\'t change perceptions of Nintendo all that much, it\'s a positive step forward where Nintendo\'s relationships with third-party developers are concerned."  --Gamespot

"From what I can tell, it appears to be a game developed solely to send the following message out to the world: Nintendo and Rare are not all about kiddie games."

“Third-party publishers now know that if they make a game with suggestive themes, that game may now appear on Nintendo consoles."  --Gamespot

"While an excellent game it may be. It could of been just as excellent without the stupid moronic humor. But then no one would of cared, would they? It would of been just another typical release from Rare."

 Another typical relase from Rare? By that, you mean a critically acclaimed one? Of course no one would have cared (besides it being a great game)... It wouldn\'t have made a point--they are trying to make a point with the game.

"Conker\'s Bad Fur Day may be the most important game ever released on a Nintendo system...While Conker\'s BFD likely won\'t change perceptions of Nintendo all that much, it\'s a positive step forward where Nintendo\'s relationships with third-party developers are concerned."  --Gamespot

Is it mature? Not really.... Is that what they were trying to do? Maybe not...

.... Dang, I was bored.

Gamespot quotes = http://www.zdnet.com/gamespot/stories/features/0,12059,2691715,00.html
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: Joker on March 06, 2001, 07:01:11 PM
Toothpick you seem to be horribly confused with the way I was using the term "mature"

The thing I said about the humour and blood did not have to do with the rating what so ever, I meant it as its just not mature as in its immature.

Just because the ESRB uses the word MATURE as its rating for the most innapropriate games for minors does not mean that is actually a MATURE game.


And I know the blood is supposed to be cartoony but it doesn\'t have to look like a square when it came out and I only said it didn\'t make the game any more mature because someone said it did.

yeesh...too many Mature words.
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: on March 06, 2001, 07:28:23 PM
Yes... I don\'t see CBFD as really mature game, rather a game innapropriate for children that is best understood and targeted at a more mature audience.
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: Kane on March 06, 2001, 08:18:37 PM
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Boy how nintendo can be stupid... Rare should\'ve left the project of BFD long time ago, when they still could...


Nintendo didn\'t want Conker BFD, Rare did. It\'s all their idea, they\'re even doing the publishing themselves. The rumor is, Rare pitched the idea to Nintendo execs as a joke, but after seeing it, they told them to do whatever they wanted to do. Of course, that\'s just a rumor, so no one knows how it actually got started. My guess is that they all got drunk while watching too much Monty Python and Benny Hill.
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 07, 2001, 02:50:15 AM
Typical Rare game = Cute cuddling animals searching for something in a stupid land.

Rare = Over-rated.

Donkey Kong (SuperNES versions)= Wasn\'t the best games. But instead, they used great graphics to get attenion. And after the first, they was hardly even worth paying attenion to.

Donkey Kong 64 = Crap.

Banjo Kazooie = Decent.

Banjo Tooie = Pooie.

Perfect Dark =  Highly over-rated. I bought it, and was not impressed. While parts was cool, it should of been saved for the GC, when it could of been done right. As it is, it was a good idea gone bad.

GoldenEye = One of the best--if not best N64 and Rare\'s brilliant moment.

Jet Force Genimi = Decent. Nothing great. A relative "flop" for Rare, even if it may of been their finer N64 moment.

Killer Instinct = Ohh! Memorize things! No thanks, I\'ll take Street Fighter....

Conkers  Bad Fur Day= Marketing idea. Take Rare platform game and throw mature subjects in to gain attenion.

BattleToads = Kick ass NES game!

But then again, this is all in my opinion. So before you go flaming me to hell, I included that note. Not everyone can agree on these things. I personally, don\'t like RARE. I don\'t see a reason for them to be such a big company and never have.

And Conkers changing video games forever? Mmm\'hmm. Yeah.  I\'m sure it won\'t . Leasure Suit Larry was also "mature" way before its time. It didn\'t exactly change games forever, yet it was a cool game (sorta).

Still, that is all my opinion.
;)
Title: Conker\'s Bad Fur Day
Post by: on March 07, 2001, 03:48:17 PM
"Typical Rare game = Cute cuddling animals searching for something in a stupid land."

 Typical Rare platformer for the N64...

"Rare = Over-rated."

 I think Rare is overrated, too. Why? Because they have done games that aren\'t too hot, yet many people think they\'re the best...

"Donkey Kong (SuperNES versions)= Wasn\'t the best games. But instead, they used great graphics to get attenion. And after the first, they was hardly even worth paying attenion to."

 This is largely your opinion. While yes, they did have awesome graphics, it wasn\'t all about graphics. The games were awesome (at least in my, and many others\' opintions) and the coop mode was great. Not to mention awesome music.

"Donkey Kong 64 = Crap."

 I agree... The conversion to 3D was terrible... collecting... collecting... wheres the fun? Wheres the groovy tunes?

"Banjo Kazooie = Decent.

Banjo Tooie = Pooie."

Many people consider the Banjo series one of the best of all time... However, that is their opinion.  

"Perfect Dark = Highly over-rated. I bought it, and was not impressed. While parts was cool, it should of been saved for the GC, when it could of been done right. As it is, it was a good idea gone bad."

 Nah... It was a good idea, and the game is awesome. While sure, I don\'t think it lived up to all its expectations and hype, it was an awesome game, with awesome graphics, and a brilliant multi-player mode.  I think its better than GE.

"GoldenEye = One of the best--if not best N64 and Rare\'s brilliant moment."

 I love this game... But how can you love GE and think that PD is unimpressive? Sure you\'ve played GE a lot, but in PD, almost everything is tweaked and it uses the same engine.

"Jet Force Genimi = Decent. Nothing great. A relative "flop" for Rare, even if it may of been their finer N64 moment."

 I rented this game and I think it was a good idea. It could have been an awesome game if done better. Too much collection... stupid little mugle like things... doh, I killed one! I have to start over!  

"Killer Instinct = Ohh! Memorize things! No thanks, I\'ll take Street Fighter...."

 I\'m not into fighters, anyways... There are many KI fans, though.  

"Conkers Bad Fur Day= Marketing idea. Take Rare platform game and throw mature subjects in to gain attenion."

 This is where I think you have it wrong. Its not just a typical Rare platformer with Mature ideas thrown in. Its new, different, etc... from their other ones.

"BattleToads = Kick ass NES game!"

 I agree... I hope they re-make this on the GBA, if nothing more for than nastaulgia (sp?).

"But then again, this is all in my opinion. So before you go flaming me to hell, I included that note. Not everyone can agree on these things. I personally, don\'t like RARE. I don\'t see a reason for them to be such a big company and never have."

 Rare is very talented and they\'ve made some sweet games for the systems they\'ve been on. I know all of those things were opinion (Heck, I disagreed with most of them)...  

"And Conkers changing video games forever? Mmm\'hmm. Yeah. I\'m sure it won\'t . Leasure Suit Larry was also "mature" way before its time. It didn\'t exactly change games forever, yet it was a cool game (sorta)."

 I\'ve never heard of that game, and maybe thats why it didn\'t. CBFD is a statement to the gamers and to the 3rd party developers. What the Gamespot guy was saying was that there was never a game like this out before. Sure you had your Dooms and other titles, but never at this high level with the stuff CBFD has on it.

"Still, that is all my opinion."

Yep....
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 08, 2001, 12:28:42 AM
Yeah, its all opinion. I thought GoldenEye was great, while Perfect Dark was lacking. But, I think what really "hurt"Perfect Dark was all the hype around it. Like the face mapping feature and what not.

I bought the first Banjo and enjoyed it somewhat. Banjo tooie did NOTHING for me though.

But, we can at least agree on one thing. (well two--Battletoads!).

Its all based on opinion.
;)
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: ElAsesino on March 08, 2001, 07:49:50 PM
Why were we debating this again?

Oh yeah mm, brought up a weak point and it was destroyed.

Ok, so why is this topic still going on?
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: on March 10, 2001, 01:19:35 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Yeah, its all opinion. I thought GoldenEye was great, while Perfect Dark was lacking. But, I think what really "hurt"Perfect Dark was all the hype around it. Like the face mapping feature and what not.

I bought the first Banjo and enjoyed it somewhat. Banjo tooie did NOTHING for me though.

But, we can at least agree on one thing. (well two--Battletoads!).

Its all based on opinion.
;)


What the hell do you mean PD is lacking, I F**King own the game it and it rock...Maybe you have not go deep in PD game, like area 51 lvl or fight against perfect sim with farsight! I dare you to fight against me and see my true skill of being nintendo nerd :nerd:

Sorry i swear to you LIC, will you forgive me?
Title: nintendo ditches conkers bad fur day!
Post by: Black Samurai on March 10, 2001, 02:55:30 PM
The only game that I have ever played that deserved a M rating was D2(It was actually rated "AO" Adults Only). The games that get M ratings rarely deserve them in my opinion.

BTW, Name some M rated games and tell me why you think they deseved the the ratings they recieved.