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Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: DirectXbox on March 09, 2001, 07:48:13 AM
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Daily Radar has learned that British developers Bizarre Creations will not be showing the highly-regarded Metropolis Street Racer at next week\'s Gamestock conference in Seattle. Instead, the developers are working on a very similar game with a street racing theme. Details are sketchy right now, but the game supposedly features the same three cities as MSR (Tokyo, San Francisco, and London) and introduces New York into the mix. Early reports indicate that the game is absolutely stunning, even eclipsing Sony\'s upcoming Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec.


http://www.dailyradar.com/news/game_news_7268.html

:D  
Now that\'s what I call a tall order!  It\'ll take more than awesome graphics to topple GT3.  We\'ll see, we\'ll see.
Title: already posted
Post by: kirath on March 09, 2001, 07:50:59 AM
http://194.47.16.181/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6997

But they are talking out there ARSE...  Its going to be a arcade street racer..  How could it be better..??  Pretty lights and flashing things.. Great!!  Yeah right
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: DirectXbox on March 09, 2001, 07:53:20 AM
Like I said, we\'ll see.  It will probably look better than GT3, but it won\'t hold a candle to GT3\'s monster list of features and cars. :D
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: unknown on March 09, 2001, 08:00:27 AM
true, it will probably look better in GT3 in soem ways, but it will have to pull off an entier army to be able to defeat GT3\'s list of 150 cars or something, and the Most accurate car sounds, steering, look, etc. its gonna take a sh!t load of stuff to topple GT3\'s gameplay
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: DirectXbox on March 09, 2001, 08:08:50 AM
BTW, I thought GT3 would have over 1,000 cars?  What happened?
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: BizioEE on March 09, 2001, 08:13:37 AM
Good laugh :laughing:


This is a Main Forum.....do you understand?
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: unknown on March 09, 2001, 08:14:09 AM
1,000 cars! [/spitting soda all over the screen] i never heard of that many cars being in the game, i heard on 160 or soemthing but thats the most, it was gonna be like 60 but they added a grip, i think 150 cars is just fine.
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: DirectXbox on March 09, 2001, 08:15:25 AM
I thought GT2 had over 600.
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: unknown on March 09, 2001, 08:18:25 AM
honestly i never played GT2, i heard it had to many bugs or something, so i didnt bother getting it, i have no idea of the car count for GT2 but ill try to find it and ill post it here,try to find a link to where it says 1,000 cars in GT3 :p
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: Hawke on March 09, 2001, 08:39:01 AM
GT2 had some over 500(600?) cars (counting the rally versions in too), I think? Eeheehee... not sure. But something like that anyways.

Back in the days of GT2 on the PSX, it took PolyPhony a day to model a car into the game. Now one car for GT3 takes 2 weeks to finish. You can do the math if you want to find out how long it\'d take if they were to put over a thousand cars into the game. (well... over 2000 weeks, which would be like 38 years and 5 months). Even if they worked on several cars at one time it would take way too much time. I\'m happy with the 150+ item car selection. There aren\'t many games that offer even that many cars ya know.
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: DirectXbox on March 09, 2001, 08:48:13 AM
That sounds reasonable...who\'s going to actually use 1,000 cars anyway?
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: nO-One on March 09, 2001, 08:52:25 AM
Well ofcourse there will be a game that looks better than GT.3.........GT.4 :D
Just look at GT.3 can you imagine how awesome the next one will be.
And the X-Box will have a game to rival the GT series they need a REALLY good driving game and  think that MS will make sure they have one.
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: Kituka on March 09, 2001, 09:30:15 AM
Personally, I think the GT3-type game that Bizarre Creations will show running on Xbox hardware will surpass GT3 in the visuals department. Whether it will surpass it significantly, I sure hope so. Microsoft has talked a lot of smack about specs, but we all know that the "125 million polygons per second" doesn\'t take into account gameplay scenarios, etc. The fact is, 35-40 is the accurate measure.

But, as far as the whole thing is concerned, who cares?!?! NGC and E3 is what I\'m looking forward to! You know you\'re desperate to get a carrying handle on your consoles too! Boo-hoo!
Title: The # I recall being touted for GT2 was over 450
Post by: Heretic on March 09, 2001, 10:08:28 AM
Where did that bogus 1000 for GT3 come from?

Moving right along. The pride of GT will always be the feel for driving in the controls, I read one of the goals for GT3 was to dial in this sensation even better. Cool. The other main feature that converts fans to GT is the simulation of working and winning your way up to better cars, becoming a better driver all the while, souping ‘em up n tuning the features. Quite engrossing for me, until just recently playing GT I never considered myself much of a racing genre fan.  

So while the graphics of GT3 are looking great, any other racer will be hard put to ever eclipse it as a game. Reading between the lines of the DR article it says to me Bizzare Creations won\'t dare show what they have until its unquestionably much better looking/running than Polyphony\'s effort. With the all mighty xbox that shouldn\'t be too hard (or will it?), though it will take some time. Like the smart money always says, let\'s wait and see.
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: Nplayer-2 on March 09, 2001, 11:43:11 AM
is this the same daily radar that said Gameday2001 would destroy madden2001?...yeah thought so.

i\'m tired of rumors....E3 will be the final judgement day...and xbox will get a death sentence from ME..:D
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: StAnZo on March 09, 2001, 11:44:51 AM
1 little thing i\'d like to add...

The Gran Turismo series was born out of a love for the sport. the man behind the game loves motorsport and is a
big fan of cars and motorsport, have u seen his Evo 5, it\'s kitted out in race spec & with makkinen decals all over it.
He brought this after smashing his Subaru Impreza WRX and totally writing it off.

Now, this guy drives fast cars in real life, he has a REAL passion for fast cars and knows how to
drive them, he gets this across when you play GT3, it just feels right. I\'m not sure if Bizzare creations
can pull off a better game. i\'m just not convinced.
Title: : )
Post by: Ethan_Hunt on March 09, 2001, 03:58:16 PM
Look no one has seen the final build of GT3 running,when i got the demo i was amazed,to say at the start of the demo that they will get alot better,then god i carnt wait to see it,so i would like to see this GT3 killer.
All i can say is bring it on!!!!!
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: BeerStud on March 09, 2001, 04:09:52 PM
Expect the numbers of cars in future GT/Psx2 titles to rise a lot.  Due to the fact that they have 150 now, for GT4, they\'ll already be starting off with 150, and they can add lttleast 150, and just upgrade the previous 150.
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: Phil on March 09, 2001, 05:00:24 PM
Unknown i hope you read this how can you say you never played GT2 You are banished from talking about any racing game ever ever again
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: QuDDus on March 09, 2001, 05:23:56 PM
Well xbox has a killer racer coming out sounds good. Even if it is more stunning and performs better than gt3. It still would not evade the fact that gt3 is a killer games.....  So I am all up for both games.
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: Dolbytone on March 09, 2001, 08:32:56 PM
I played the Dreamcast version of this game and let me tell you, regardless of what they do to the graphics for the XBox version it will never be a better game than GT3.  MSR sucked in the gameplay department plain and simple.
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: Bozco on March 09, 2001, 08:38:49 PM
you got to be kidding me a game better than GT3 it will take more than just some good looks to beat a solid game like GT3
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on March 09, 2001, 11:06:23 PM
sounds cool, but MRS was just a texture tech demo for me, the gameplay was actually pretty shallow compared to GT2

I hope they\'ll focuss more on the realism this time rather than graphics
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: pstwo on March 10, 2001, 01:34:07 AM
Well the X-Box is a Powerful system.  But it looks funny...:laughing: Max Resolution 1920x1080 Wow!

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fxboxmedia.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fnews%2Fimage%2Fhardwaresnokay%2Fconsole.jpg&hash=fd1b7096597dc641d390f22335f298ce54882a73)

Look at the controller....It looks like a third party one...:laughing:
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Now this is the Future!!!
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Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: Dolbytone on March 10, 2001, 01:46:50 AM
What does all that crap have to do with this thread?  If I wanted to see pics of the XBox I\'d pick up one of the 15 bazillion magazines that have one on the cover or something.
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: pstwo on March 10, 2001, 02:27:24 AM
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Originally posted by Dolbytone
What does all that crap have to do with this thread?  If I wanted to see pics of the XBox I\'d pick up one of the 15 bazillion magazines that have one on the cover or something.


I just said it looks funny.......:bounce:
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: SonyFan on March 10, 2001, 02:28:35 AM
Well I just got done looking at the new batch of GT3 pictures over at IGN, and I just have to wonder.. how much better can the graphics in Xbox\'s racer be? I mean, some of those screenshots border on photorealistic.. and what little flaws there are you won\'t notice once it\'s in motion. It\'s just unreal. The Xbox\'s racer will HAVE to beat GT3 in gameplay.. I just don\'t think there\'ll be all that much of a graphical difference.

IMO, the only thing that will really set the two apart is resoloution, but since only about 8% of gamers out there have an HDTV or VGA boxes capable of utilizing that effect.. claiming that as an advantage is really a moot point.
 
Ya know what else is shocking... With as amazing as GT3 is graphically, they still aren\'t using Bezier surfacing or NURBS. Can you imagine what the games are going to look like once the knowlage of how to code those two effects are widely known? I\'m assuming yes, but does anyone know for a fact weither or not the NV2A is capable of those two effects?
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: pstwo on March 10, 2001, 02:43:18 AM
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Originally posted by SonyFan
Well I just got done looking at the new batch of GT3 pictures over at IGN, and I just have to wonder.. how much better can the graphics in Xbox\'s racer be? I mean, some of those screenshots border on photorealistic.. and what little flaws there are you won\'t notice once it\'s in motion. It\'s just unreal. The Xbox\'s racer will HAVE to beat GT3 in gameplay.. I just don\'t think there\'ll be all that much of a graphical difference.

IMO, the only thing that will really set the two apart is resoloution, but since only about 8% of gamers out there have an HDTV or VGA boxes capable of utilizing that effect.. claiming that as an advantage is really a moot point.
 
Ya know what else is shocking... With as amazing as GT3 is graphically, they still aren\'t using Bezier surfacing or NURBS. Can you imagine what the games are going to look like once the knowlage of how to code those two effects are widely known? I\'m assuming yes, but does anyone know for a fact weither or not the NV2A is capable of those two effects?


Hey, want to see more amazing GT3 shots?
go here   URL http://www.psera.com/feature/gt3aspec_database
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: fastson on March 10, 2001, 03:17:38 AM
All M$ do is talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk and so on! NO ACTIONS!!!

We never get to see anything! And when we do it sucks!
Like malice or Abe. LMAO!

I think M$ is trying to hide something!

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psera.com%2Fgt3%2Fgt3aspec-newest_22.jpg&hash=021e88518556d17530bde2899e5943153763cb8b)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psera.com%2Fgt3%2Fgt3aspec-newest_211.jpg&hash=6c24db5ad7e5a58d9cb4345422e94d1e6373d0b5)
This screen made me piss my pants :(
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NOTE: The game looks this good when you play it! I have proof. Only I cant show it because my DVD player on my computer doesnt let me take screens of the screen :(

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psera.com%2Fgt3%2Fgt3aspec-newest_29.jpg&hash=0a3cc415690020d20bd7febf490c70909c94ce1a)


/FASTson
Title: Xbox\'s GT3: A-Spec Killer??
Post by: Bozco on March 10, 2001, 04:47:36 AM
Yeah like some game that sucked on dc will do good just with better graphics nope but it will closest that any x-box fanboy will ever get to a GT3