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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Ryu on March 14, 2001, 10:22:14 AM
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http://cgi.gaming-age.com/gaming/news/news.pl?y=2001&m=3&nid=14-84.db
Here\'s a few quotes that you should all find VERY interesting...
"The PlayStation2 platform will be at the top of our list, since sales are likely to grow rapidly,"
"We plan to spend about 70 percent of our development resources on games for PlayStation consoles next year,"
``Games for Xbox don\'t figure much in our plans for next year\'\' to March 2002, he said. Devoting resources to game development for the new console is ``risky, as the company has not shown us a clear business strategy,\'\' Kitaue told Bloomberg news.
So much for those "X" ports of MGS and Silent Hill...
Last September, Konami said it plans to develop more than 10 X-box games a year, but Konami appears to share some of the skepticism other Japanese developers have with the X-box.
"PlayStation2 and Xbox will go head-to-head, but Sony seems to have better chance in winning given its head start," Kitaue said.
That\'s a pretty bold statement from Konami\'s president if I ever saw one.
"Konami\'s strategy is definitely right," said Shunji Nakauchi, an analyst with Marusan Securities Co. "Konami and Capcom are among the few game developers capable of developing games for PlayStation 2."
Speaking of Capcom, I\'d like to point out that Onimusha will be in retail stores tomorrow. I\'d also like to point out that both Konami and Capcom share development skepticism of the X-Box as well as full support to the PS2. So what do you all think about this stuff?
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I am one happy PS2 owner.
Konami and Square trusting the PS2!! it cant get any better than this.
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Hmm.. Something to do with 94% of all the game developers think PS2 is gonna win??
I think so!
Why waste you money on a Xbox??
/FAST
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There will defentely be some kick ass games on x-box just wait and see, But i am still thingking the Ps2 will win.
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Most developers are VERY unsure of MS\' intentions for the Japanese territory (Especially both Capcom and Konami). Japan is a HUGE portion of the gaming market and all developers know that if you can\'t win Japan over, then you can\'t turn a hefty profit in the console industry. So far, we have seen that X-Box is going to be geared moreso towards the American market then anything else while the PS2 is directed towards all the territories namely Europe, America and Japan especially. With delays of the X-Box in Europe and an unheard of support in Japan, how are developers supposed to react? Sony\'s strategy was known a year ahead of the PS2\'s release and developers saw it as a great situation and they jumped on the bandwagon. The X-box is just 7 months away from release and Konami and Capcom both are still unsure of the console. Good or bad thing, you be the judge.
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Things is going the way Sony wants. The big Japanese developers are not impressed with the x-box. Sony knows that the japanese market is the way to success. Sony will do about anything to prevent the x-box to become a japanese success.
Europe and US are playing a lot of japanese games, this is why x-box has to success in japan. I think they wont.
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One more thing!
Japanese makes the best games!!
/FAST
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theres a xbox on your shoulder......
whats a xbox ...for...
ok that wasnt very funny...****for...whats a **** for...whats a xbox for...get it...BAH NEVERMIND!!! :nut:
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i might be buying an xbox.
that is if i get an extra house to hold the monster of a console :)
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i honestly wouldn\'t celebrate anything till the console is released, but i will love my ps2 none the less, they are unsure that will make it, but they aren\'t 100% out of wack hands down sure it wont make it, the pics were prom a second gen x box, with only a g force three, the graphics will get better, but the games are what will make or break the console in the end. wich is what also makes me wonder, look at the ps2\'s first launch games, and evne latly they all suck, not all of them, but only a few jewels have stood out since the release, so if x box comes out with some crappy games, what will stop it there, theyw ill make better ones, like the ps2 is doing. we will not be sure till its release, it\'s not over till the fat console sings.
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wow, they´re great news for Sony. Thanks for the information.
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Originally posted by shingoku
theres a xbox on your shoulder......
whats a xbox ...for...
ok that wasnt very funny...****for...whats a **** for...whats a xbox for...get it...BAH NEVERMIND!!! :nut:
what the hell do you mean, I mean, this must be one of the most misleading posts ever made, explain, for this mystery is going through my mind like crazy, and it needs some rest, please,
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Well, I have some restored faith in Konami after Shadows of Destiny Z.O.E, Silent Hill2 , the only thing that can fully restore it is a 2D CastleVania, damnit.
Still, it doesn\'t suprise me as Konami has always been an active Sony supporter. The sit back and wait approach is probably best for them (same for Capcom). MS will have to go "the extra mile" to win the true support of them, meaning for them to push Xbox development to front of the line, resource wise.
By the way, your new pic kicks ass, Ryu.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH HEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL YEEEEEEEEEEAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS2: The Beginning.
:cool:
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i honestly wouldn\'t celebrate anything till the console is released, but i will love my ps2 none the less, they are unsure that will make it, but they aren\'t 100% out of wack hands down sure it wont make it, the pics were prom a second gen x box, with only a g force three, the graphics will get better, but the games are what will make or break the console in the end. wich is what also makes me wonder, look at the ps2\'s first launch games, and evne latly they all suck, not all of them, but only a few jewels have stood out since the release, so if x box comes out with some crappy games, what will stop it there, theyw ill make better ones, like the ps2 is doing. we will not be sure till its release, it\'s not over till the fat console sings.
I don\'t think Konami is pulling away from X-box devving because of the pics at Gamestock but rather because of MS\' unknown intentions towards the Japanese gamers. MS is going to target the American gamers primarily while no Japanese or European support has been divulged. Sony got their console out to all three territories in a single year while the X-Box is still struggling to even get final dev kits by this summer. Rumors of delays in Japan, delays in Europe already confirmed... what\'s a developer that gets most of its funds from Japanese gamers, supposed to do with a company that doesn\'t focus on a devs primary demographic? Some of Konami\'s greatest sellers are their dancing games which never even see the light of day in the US, but are released in Japan almost Quarterly on the PSX and soon the PS2.
In order for a company to succeed, they have to be successful in both the US and in Japan in order to turn large profits or win console wars for that matter. PSX was successful in all territories while the Saturn was successful in Japan only. Anyone can pull sales figures for that one to back me up. Point is, Konami and Capcom\'s biggest audience is the Japanese gamers and so far, X-Box is targetting America. Americans are a large section of the pie, but Japan is so partial to Konami\'s and Capcom\'s franchise titles and that country alone makes up TONS of their profits. It\'s all about the money and Konami and Capcom are questioning the fact if MS can really show it to them.
By the way, your new pic kicks ass, Ryu.
Thanks man :)
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Good news for Sony and its PS2, but it doesn\'t come at a surprise to me, nor will it come to me as a surprise if Square does the same thing because they have always been Sony lovers.
They also helped in the relaunch of the Playstation 2 this month, both Square and Konami.
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they still have 30%. who gives a ****, id rather have games on the more powerful XBOX. But i also like ps2s controller more. I think sony needs to start releasing some more dam ps2s, what happened to LOTS in March.
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Originally posted by jaggies
they still have 30%. who gives a ****, id rather have games on the more powerful XBOX. But i also like ps2s controller more. I think sony needs to start releasing some more dam ps2s, what happened to LOTS in March.
Well Xbox has a ways to go yet, Gamestock actually worked in reverse for me, but will see. I do realize its not final hardware.
All of those PS2\'s in March are still flying off the shelves Sony promised 9 million by the end of March, they we\'re well over 7 mill @ the begin of Feb. Demand is still very very high.
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Originally posted by jaggies
they still have 30%. who gives a ****, id rather have games on the more powerful XBOX. But i also like ps2s controller more. I think sony needs to start releasing some more dam ps2s, what happened to LOTS in March.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA your an idiot. Did you even read that article? I seriousl doubt that because anyone who did would realize that the other 30% belongs to GBA, not Xbox. Konami has like 10 GBA games already planned.
God that was hilarious! You just assumed that they were going to go to Xbox! HA! Your arguments are getting weaker by the day.
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i guess you don\'t know the word (THEY) AS IN MANY NOT JUST XBOX BYATACH AHAHAHHHHHAHAH
mgsx and silent hill x haven\'t been canned either byatch.
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Read this then shut up .
"We plan to spend about 70 percent of our development resources on games for PlayStation consoles next year,"
"On the GBA, Kitaue said that "We believe GBA will enjoy great success, and that Nintendo will keep its dominance in the mobile game market. Sales could reach 100 million units within five years."
Konami is less sure about the X-box. Kitaue believes that it will gain a solid market share in the U.S., but questioned how profitable the machine will be for Microsoft.
``Games for Xbox don\'t figure much in our plans for next year\'\' to March 2002, he said. Devoting resources to game development for the new console is ``risky, as the company has not shown us a clear business strategy,\'\' Kitaue told Bloomberg news.
70% for PS2, 30 % for GBA. A pre-schooler can get that. :)Please tell me you can too?
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lol you always misread posts,wtf is wrong with you. do you smoke crack.
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lol, your in denial again jaggies. Geez breathe calmy and accept the facts. Xbox won\'t be getting any Konami games this year, boo hoo.
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Let the flame war begin!!,j/k no really... ryu has a point withthe reply he gave to my post, X box is only focused on the american society, not japan, sony is way better cause they have the ball, america, japan, europe, everywhere, its true about what he said, but still i will not say ps2 is gonna take the cake, its to early, it looks dim right now for X box, but you never know stuff can come up before you know it.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Read this then shut up .
70% for PS2, 30 % for GBA. A pre-schooler can get that. :)Please tell me you can too?
I was thinking the same thing too.
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LOL ahaha thank you coremagazine they said making 10 xbox gamesTHIS YEAR,that good because thats about all the good ones,unlss the cancel mgsx and silent hill x.
Konami representatives went on record today regarding their software lineup for the fiscal year ending March 2002. From what we\'ve been told, Konami is planning to release more than 100 titles within the year. According to a company spokesperson, the majority of the games will be for the PlayStation, PlayStation 2 and Game Boy Advance. Nevertheless, Konami is also planning to support the Xbox with ten titles this year as well. More importantly, Konami confirmed that the number of exclusive PlayStation 2 titles will be curtailed due to the overlapping audience between the Xbox and PlayStation 2. Perhaps most intriguing though, insiders have confirmed that preliminary software development has begun for the Nintendo GameCube. Seemingly unable to shake the Nintendo stigma of appealing to children however, Konami confirmed that their tentative GameCube lineup will appeal to \'younger audiences.\'
coremagazine.com
AHAHAHHAHHHHHHH I WIN AGAIN
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No jaggies, you lose. Read the article that Ryu posted. :laughing: Stupid trolls, when will they ever learn...
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you were wrong you said they weren\'t making any games this year for xbox byatch.
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Must I repeat myself? LOOK AT THE ARTICLE RYU POSTED YOU ****ING MORON. YOUR DEAD WRONG GIMP.
God your no longer amusing. Now your just annoying. Shape up troll! :laughing:
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Hey Ryu, I must say that you have one of the coolest pics ever. I remember when you were showing us your choices and it looks SO much better actually under your name.
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Wow, a flame war in my little thread? Sheesh. Fact is, Konami\'s president says 70% for PSX/PS2 and lots of support for the GBA, which has already shown as soon as you look at the launch lineup for it\'s Japanese release. I\'d post all the titles, but I\'m sure Jumpman can handle that much more efficiently then I could. I kinda dont feel like swimming in the ign.handhelds archives today anyways. As for the 10 game thing, here\'s a quote from the president of Konami:
Konami is less sure about the X-box. Kitaue believes that it will gain a solid market share in the U.S., but questioned how profitable the machine will be for Microsoft.
"Games for Xbox don\'t figure much in our plans for next year\'\' to March 2002, he said. Devoting resources to game development for the new console is "risky, as the company has not shown us a clear business strategy,\'\' Kitaue told Bloomberg news.
Last September, Konami said it plans to develop more than 10 X-box games a year, but Konami appears to share some of the skepticism other Japanese developers have with the X-box.
Last September they had PLANNED to develop 10 games per year, yet releasing them is a different story. When these games see the light of day is still unknown at this time. I\'m not saying they\'ll never be released or that they\'ll be canceled, I\'m just saying that Konami has quite a few things to consider when it comes to releasing their titles. Their BeMani series is VERY popular in Japan, but their analysts, which reside within the company and do not come from a 3rd party source, predict the X-Box to sell well in America, but rather scarcely in Japan and when Konami considers that factor into its franchise series and its target demographic and sales, you can understand their concern with the decisions of MS concerning their consoles release. BeMani is popular in the arcades and home consoles in Japan and if MS won\'t back them as heavily in Japan, then who will Konami turn to? That\'s right, the company they are dedicating 70% of their manpower to.
Look, this is not to bash MS, but from all accounts, the American people are certainly going to get the best end of the deal, along with American developers. EA is going to bank off of it for sure and I think this generation will profit them moreso then any other company, but when it comes to Japanese based developers and European developers, they\'re getting the shaft and so far, Sony is the main player to turn to with those factors taken into consideration. If you want a successful console, you have to appeal to all demographics and MS just isn\'t doing it when you consider delays in Europe and wavering Japanese 3rd party support.
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Hey Ryu, I must say that you have one of the coolest pics ever. I remember when you were showing us your choices and it looks SO much better actually under your name.
Haha, two compliments in one thread, I\'m honored. I suppose you want me to pay you for your tribute, eh? ;)
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Konami has games coming to the Xbox. Thats a given. But did it say that they are coming this year? Nope.
Jaggies, gotta love fanboys.
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gota love people who can\'t read.
Konami is also planning to support the Xbox with ten titles this year as well
my point was mgs x would be better than mgs2.
they pprobably had to delay xbox games because of the crap ps2 programming.
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Originally posted by jaggies
gota love people who can\'t read.
Konami is also planning to support the Xbox with ten titles this year as well
rotflmao! :laughing:
I see you listened to me when I said shape up. Thanks for returning to your old hilarious self. :laughing:
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And supposing that MGSX gets improved over MGS2. Neither of which, has been confirmed! MGSX is, but what it is, and how great it is, hasn\'t. :rolleyes:
Don\'t post speculation without facts to back you up and say we are all wrong!
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Originally posted by Simchoy
And supposing that MGSX gets improved over MGS2. Neither of which, has been confirmed! MGSX is, but what it is, and how great it is, hasn\'t. :rolleyes:
Don\'t post speculation without facts to back you up and say we are all wrong!
no kidding, some people just assume mgsx will be better than mgs2 because they want to believe it soooooo bad.
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Konami is also planning to support the Xbox with ten titles this year as well
my point was mgs x would be better than mgs2.
Support, meaning develop 10 titles. When these games get released or how many people will actually work on the titles is still unknown. If I was drawing some sketches for an upcoming x-box game, I\'m sure as hell starting development, but that doesn\'t mean I have 30 people working on it with me and it\'s going to be out in 8 months.
Also, like people said above, MGSX hasn\'t been shown, it hasn\'t even been confirmed yet as far as content goes and people are already saying "it\'s going to be better." Well how about this Mr negative PS2, what if the game is EXACTLY the same? Given the amount of information given, that\'s the best anyone can assume. You can throw tech specs at me all you want, but with all that has been said, tech specs don\'t make games any better then they already are. The PC version of MGS, even with all the smoothed textures and whatnot still isn\'t any better then the PSX version because, quite simply, it\'s still the same game.
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can\'t port ps2 code. it won\'t be the same because they guy making it said xbox does better lighting and shadows.
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So, better lighting and shadows means a better game? I\'m sorry, refer back to my previous post about MGS on PC and PSX. MGS on PC has the GF2 and that has some great damn effects that dwarf the PSX in SO MANY WAYS, yet both games are the same. That pretty much puts that to rest.
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Originally posted by jaggies
can\'t port ps2 code. it won\'t be the same because they guy making it said xbox does better lighting and shadows.
They (Hideo Kojima) also said that they weren\'t going to work on the Xbox version until MGS2 for PlayStation 2 was completed. And all territories are getting MGS 2 this year (although at the end of it), so I seriously doubt Xbox is gonna see a MGS game anytime soon - it would have to be 2002 at the soonest (at least that\'s what it looks like ATM).
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I think alot of japanese developers,will support Xbox like they did the dreamcast,there will be a few game but not loads,from top developers like Namco,or Capcom.
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Konami commits 70% of its resources towards PS2 and PSX.......maybe they think it\'s the better choice they could do :D......
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Ten titles out of a hundred is a small commitment by Konami. That makes sense; put the money where the games are. Both Jumpman and jaggies are right. Jumpman says that Konami will be giving Sony the majority of the titles while Xbox only get\'s ten. You two were agreeing with one another without knowing it! :D It figures out this way:
PS2: 30%(30 games)
PSX: 40% (40 games)
GBA:15%(15 games)
GameCube: 5%(5 games)
Xbox: 10%(10 games)
Looks right to me. You people act like everyone expected Konami just to drop PS2 and develop for GC and Xbox. If not, then why is this topic worthy to be posted. The PSX has 80 million units world-wide and to not develop for it would be throwing money away. Xbox and GC aren\'t out yet so of course support for them will be minimal at first. Did you think Konami dropped the PSX because of the PS2? No! They go where the money is and right now it isn\'t clear how Xbox and GC will do because they still have about 7 months until launch.
However, keep in mind that Konami and Microsoft have a Square/EA type relationship(MS publishes Konami PC games) and that Konami were the first supporters of the Xbox. Hell, they even purchased 100 dev kits. That\'s no small investment folks. Expect Xbox support to become more robust as the picture gets clearer.
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Originally posted by jaggies
gota love people who can\'t read.
Konami is also planning to support the Xbox with ten titles this year as well
my point was mgs x would be better than mgs2.
they pprobably had to delay xbox games because of the crap ps2 programming.
Hideo Kojima stated in NextGen magazine that they are already calling it(MGSX) MGS1.5 around the office. There are of course people working on MGSX right now but not enough to make a dent. It is highly unlikely that we will see MGSX before next spring. Xbox needs to show us the killer-app that it will launch with and MGSX aint it.
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Originally posted by DirectXbox
Ten titles out of a hundred is a small commitment by Konami. That makes sense; put the money where the games are. Both Jumpman and jaggies are right. Jumpman says that Konami will be giving Sony the majority of the titles while Xbox only get\'s ten. You two were agreeing with one another without knowing it! :D It figures out this way:
PS2: 30%(30 games)
PSX: 40% (40 games)
GBA:15%(15 games)
GameCube: 5%(5 games)
Xbox: 10%(10 games)
Looks right to me. You people act like everyone expected Konami just to drop PS2 and develop for GC and Xbox. If not, then why is this topic worthy to be posted. The PSX has 80 million units world-wide and to not develop for it would be throwing money away. Xbox and GC aren\'t out yet so of course support for them will be minimal at first. Did you think Konami dropped the PSX because of the PS2? No! They go where the money is and right now it isn\'t clear how Xbox and GC will do because they still have about 7 months until launch.
However, keep in mind that Konami and Microsoft have a Square/EA type relationship(MS publishes Konami PC games) and that Konami were the first supporters of the Xbox. Hell, they even purchased 100 dev kits. That\'s no small investment folks. Expect Xbox support to become more robust as the picture gets clearer.
YA! I smart XBox fan! You truly are one of a kind. :)
I\'m not insulting the XBox its just that the majority of the XBox fans we get here(and pretty much everywhere) are completely ignorant fanboys.
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DirectXbox=Reverendxbox
same sig..same style...same troll
soulgrind ban his ass.
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PS2: 30%(30 games)
PSX: 40% (40 games)
GBA:15%(15 games)
GameCube: 5%(5 games)
Xbox: 10%(10 games)
Where did you get these surprising numbers? From what I\'ve read it\'s PSX+ PS2- 70 & GBA 30%. He didn\'t say **** about making games for NGC and Xbox anytime soon.
Don\'t make a reputation for yourself...
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Hey, I remember that Konami said they didn\'t even confirm Silent Hill X! and the internet was just full of rumors. Whether Xbox fanboys like it or not, Konami is stuck with PS2. Ps2 is NOT IN A FAILING SITUATION. So, if you don\'t like Konami\'s decision, get a PS2