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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Leatherface on March 14, 2001, 08:52:29 PM

Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Leatherface on March 14, 2001, 08:52:29 PM
I\'d just like to say hey, I used to post over at msxbox quite a bit and after what I saw yesterday, I just yawned real loud.  Those games looked boring as hell.  I can\'t believe that some of you were drooling over the graphics.  I think Sony has this one locked up after seeing that crap from Gamestock.  Heck, even Nintendo might pull into second place after that stuff.  Anyway, I think I\'m gonna cancel my XBOX preorder and preorder a Game Boy Advance to play while I wait for the PS2 to drop in price.  The info I wanted was stuff about the PS2  like how many games are in development, etc. Anything positive to make me feel better about changing my mind.  Micro$oft, you blew it...
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Jumpman on March 14, 2001, 09:00:20 PM
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Anything positive to make me feel better about changing my mind.

-If you get PS2 then you\'ll get games that LOOK just as good of anything Xbox can do graphically.

-Better developers on PS2 than Xbox which means better games.(big plus)

-No large ugly controller to get use to.

-A lot of good exclusive PS2 games this year(MGS2, FFX, ect) and not very many for Xbox.

I love hearig these kind of things. People seeing what kind of brutal disapointment the Xbox truly is then moving on to something superior. Makes me feel good. :)

PS: Welcome to the forums. :D Solid Snake is right, we do have an enormous amount of hatred for the idiotic gimps at MSXBOX.

I hate them with a passion...
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on March 14, 2001, 09:00:33 PM
Hey, welcome to the forum. :D

I can\'t give you much info myself, but look around, you will learn much. One thing you should know is that there is a general hatred of the MSXBOX forums here. :) Those people have got to be the stupidest people on the planet(not you, you have wisened up and come here :)).

Another thing we hear alot from newbies is "How do I get a picture under my name?" To get a pic under your name you need to have at least 400 posts and have been here for at least 4 months. Once you achive that, PM(personal message) mm or SoulGrind(the two resident administrators).

Look around, learn, and have fun. :)
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: unknown on March 14, 2001, 09:09:13 PM
the darkside has you..welcome to the thirdplace.

hi, there is a grip of sweet ars games beign released this month, i dont know how much of the ps2 you know about but i start with the simple stuff, today Onimusha and Ring of Red were released today, here is a link to the onimusha review so you can check it out:

http://ps2.ign.com/reviews/11520.html

it is safe to say, that this is going to be one of the best games this year, I dont have any links to a Ring of red preview but ill post one later, Z.O.E. will be released on the 27th of march and is going to be an awesoem mech game, alot of hype has been surrounding this game, and to top it off its coming witha demo of MGS2! Quake 3 revolution will be release this month as well

a few games have been delayed that were supposed to be released this month were GT3 " you have got to have heard of this game" will be released in May now, Dark cloud wich is supposed to be a Zelda killer will be releasedin April, Red faction, wich will be an awesome fps will be released in June. and  sony will be releasing a 40 GB Hrad drive "wich kicks ars" in japan some time in July "no solid date on a  U.S. release"

MGS2 has gotten a release date some time in fall, this iwll probably the icing on PS2\'s cake for 2001.

you get the dvd player of course, its a really good dvd player, not the best, but as good as the average ones out on the market. and there is a bunch of more stuff i can tell you about, if you have any more questions about it then just ask ill be sure to answer you as soon as i can, welcome ot the forums, as long as you have repect for others, they will have respect for you :)
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: jaggies on March 14, 2001, 09:09:18 PM
xbox wipes the floor with ps2 graphicly,even the player models in nfl fever and football game not even done look better,that big ass jombotron.. madden is ugly look at the screens of madden.

only reason to not to get xbox is if you got really small hands,can\'t wait a little longer for ps2 games.don\'t like pc content without a kb and mouse.


i am glad my brother is buying ps2 because my ass will wait  another year even 2,3 just because i know nvidia rocks when comes to graphics.


geforce baby geforce, direct x.
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: ddaryl on March 14, 2001, 09:09:19 PM
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Originally posted by Leatherface
I\'d just like to say hey, I used to post over at msxbox quite a bit and after what I saw yesterday, I just yawned real loud.  Those games looked boring as hell.  I can\'t believe that some of you were drooling over the graphics.



We have a mixed bag of emotions on Xbox graphically. Its still on half completed hardware

 
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I think Sony has this one locked up after seeing that crap from Gamestock.  Heck, even Nintendo might pull into second place after that stuff.  Anyway, I think I\'m gonna cancel my XBOX preorder and preorder a Game Boy Advance to play while I wait for the PS2 to drop in price.


Sony will be hard to beat. PS2 price drop some where around Xmas


 
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The info I wanted was stuff about the PS2  like how many games are in development, etc. Anything positive to make me feel better about changing my mind.  Micro$oft, you blew it...




There are over 200 games do out this year for PS2. Sony has 20 1st party projects which haven;t been revealed yet.

Games like MGS2, FFX, Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance, The Getaway, Dropship, Devil May Cry, Onimusha, ZOE, Twisted Metal Black, Red Faction, The Lost, Run Like Hell. Extermination, GT3, Wipeout Fusion, Blood Omen, Soul Reaver

and so much more are more then enough reason IMO to purchase a PS2, and quite a few of those games already are on par with Xbox\'s Gamestock games


I still might pick up an Xbox but my interest faded somewhat with Gamestock.

welcome to the boards
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Jumpman on March 14, 2001, 09:14:56 PM
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Originally posted by jaggies
xbox wipes the floor of ps2 graphicly,even the player models in nfl fever and football game not even done look better,that big ass jombotron.. madden is ugly look at the screens of madden.

only reason to not to get xbox is if you got really small hands,can\'t wait a little longer for ps2 games.don\'t like pc content without a kb and mouse.


i am glad my brother is buying ps2 because my ass will wait  another year even 2,3 just because i know nvidia rocks when comes to graphics.


geforce baby geforce, direct x.

Whoooo let the troll out??? :laughing:

Honestly, shut up jaggies. We have already heard your misguided, uneducated, twisted, and insane opinion and views on things enough. Just shut the hell up. Madden2001 looks better than NFLFever and that is extremely obvious, and it\'s only a first-gen game.

 The Xbox was over hyped and now we see it\'s terrible truth. Live with it and shut the hell up.

Speaking of trolls, there\'s ProfesserX. :laughing:
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: ProfessorX on March 14, 2001, 09:15:59 PM
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Those people have got to be the stupidest people on the planet(not you, you have wisened up and come here


So are you telling me if you post here and support the PS2 that makes you smart and if you support the Xbox that makes your stupid?@?

Ok Leatherface if you like the PS2 thats great but just dont listen to this guys advice thats some kind of assbackward logic.
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: ddaryl on March 14, 2001, 09:17:48 PM
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Originally posted by jaggies
xbox wipes the floor with ps2 graphicly,even the player models in nfl fever and football game not even done look better,that big ass jombotron.. madden is ugly look at the screens of madden.

only reason to not to get xbox is if you got really small hands,can\'t wait a little longer for ps2 games.don\'t like pc content without a kb and mouse.


i am glad my brother is buying ps2 because my ass will wait  another year even 2,3 just because i know nvidia rocks when comes to graphics.


geforce baby geforce, direct x.


comical releif is here
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Lavan on March 14, 2001, 09:31:56 PM
Welcome to the forum Leatherface, you\'ve come to one of the best forums on the net.
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: mm on March 14, 2001, 09:33:10 PM
499 more posts and ya get a shiny pic!  YAY!
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Black Samurai on March 14, 2001, 10:10:57 PM
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
Another thing we hear alot from newbies is "How do I get a picture under my name?" To get a pic under your name you need to have at least 400 posts and have been here for at least 4 months. Once you achive that, PM(personal message) mm or SoulGrind(the two resident administrators).


I don\'t remember anyone changing the rules. As far as I know it is still 500 posts for a pic. Unless one becomes a troll then they get what ever new pic that MM comes up with for whiners/lamers/posers/trolls.
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on March 14, 2001, 10:15:47 PM
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Originally posted by jaggies
xbox wipes the floor with ps2 graphicly,even the player models in nfl fever and football game not even done look better,that big ass jombotron.. madden is ugly look at the screens of madden.
Yea i saw the NFL Fevel Models. Jaggie city ;)
Title: Jaggies, resident idiot here, and at MSXbox.com. As well as the known Jaggie Fanboy.
Post by: Simchoy on March 14, 2001, 10:24:28 PM
:laughing:

Anyways, welcome to the PS2 Central Forum.

The Xbox, too early to say what the games will be like compared to the PS2. However, what was shown, didn\'t impress me at all. Don\'t get me wrong, they look good, but nothing the PS2 can match.

The PS2 still has the support advantage over the Xbox (well, mainly Japanese support). Konami\'s main focus right now, PS2. This will stay true until...PS2 fails (which isn\'t likely). PS2 has tons of games coming that are pretty amazing looking (matching what the Xbox shown at Gamestock). Soul Reaver 2, The Getaway, GT3, Shadow of Memories, Silent Hill 2, Extermination, RE4, Omnimusha, MGS2 (of coarse), The Lost, Run Like Hell, Red Fraction, and this is all on the top of my head. PS2 has plenty of life in it.
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Samwise on March 14, 2001, 11:43:32 PM
Welcome to the forum Leatherface.

We are a mixed bag of all sorts of people, opinions and we do of course have the occasional fanboy and troll. But I\'m sure you\'ll soon learn who is smart and who isn\'t. Just relax and have a good time. :)
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: StAnZo on March 15, 2001, 03:01:19 AM
Another bit of info:

If you are a fan of the World Rally Championship then sony have brought the licence for 5 years. This console will
be the only place that you will see official drivers/logos/stages/car decals etc.... This is one hell of a big bonus for me.
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Dr Yassam on March 15, 2001, 03:22:40 AM
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Originally posted by Leatherface
I\'d just like to say hey, I used to post over at msxbox quite a bit and after what I saw yesterday, I just yawned real loud


Leatherface, there are three XBox related events this month. Gamestock is one, it was just the beginning, now it\'s over. Next week (20th-24th) we have the Games Developers Conference (GDC) which is usually a good event for major announcements, and an opportunity for developers to show off! Then there\'s the Tokyo Game Show (TGS) at the end of the month (Bill Gates will be present also).

So tell me, you have an awesome XBox game to announce to the world, which event would you choose to show your game for the first time? Think about it!

Hence over the next two weeks, expect many XBox announcements to be made, and a FAR greater range of XBox software to be shown, especially from the best developers.

If afterwards you still feel the same, then fine, cancel your order. :)
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Darth Joyda on March 15, 2001, 05:13:07 AM
Hey, a new member is always a welcomed member! I don\'t matter if you still would be an X-box fan, if you just wouldn\'t abuse these boards.

But, for a change, it\'s nice to hear really negative thoughts about X-box; from an experienced FAN. Your posts will be interesting to read ;)

Ah, you seem much like me ( expect I would buy x-box if I had the money... and I think you would too :) ) - buying GBA and all ( if enough money that is, again ). So forth, I welcome you to the forums!!!

You will find lots of interesting personalities. Let me introduce some of our regulars here to you, Leatherface...

Samwise - The newest moderator. Nice, funny and wise. And handsome ;)
MM - a schitzophrenic with splitted personality. Actually he owns a chimp named Clyde and he lets Clyde to post here sometime
SoulGrind - The God of terror and Evil.
ddaryl - an unbiased mod. Wery Wise. :)
Darth Joyda ( that\'s me :) ) - sometimes posts like crazy, and usually tries to post long and thoughtful posts. Sometimes failing and completely turning the thread upside down actually :)
BJORN!!!! - The Boss. I should\'ve had introduced him first. But he\'s da Boss. Every positive reply you get from him is a great honour. Really nice fella\', and the creator of this site!
Adan - crazy Spanish person. Has a cool pic :)
SublimeSjg - you notice him for his hilarious mouse-pic!
Deadly Hamster - the hamster with a deadly pic. A moderator-fellow of mine in another forum.
Solid Snake 88 - Crazy poster. MGS -fan, apparently :) Likes crawling in the snows of Alaska.
unknown - was once the craziest and fastest poster on this board. Got some sense, slowed down a little ;) ( just kidding - has always been smart )
And YET SO many nice members I haven\'t introduced. Get to know them yourself. My apology to everyone un-mentioned! You just didn\'t pop into my head right now :)

About the Troll -systema.

Everyone who\'s a jack4ss here; that means spamming, bashing a specific console all the time ( doesn\'t have to be ps2 to achieve troll-pic ). Annoys moderators or admins too much, doesn\'t obey their orders... and so on.

And don\'t fear. If you somehow turn to be annoying you will be warned first. :)

[ after posting, spits all the sh1t out of his mouth, goes and brushes his teeth, and comes back ]

-the consequences of serious arsekissing :laughing: -
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Bossieman on March 15, 2001, 06:34:06 AM
Welcome to the best PS2 forum in the world.
Title: So I guess I\'m an Idiot, Right?
Post by: DirectXbox on March 15, 2001, 09:00:34 AM
Well, thanx for the insult, buddy.  I\'m a regular at MSXbox and I\'m also a regular at these forums.  You\'re to blame for your disappointment.  You are too stupid to realize that games 7 months from launch aren\'t going to be anywhere near complete.  All of the games at GameStock were 50% or less complete.  Hell, Project Gotham was put together in 4 weeks!  Most people in here like you were expecting CG quality graphics even though the games are incomplete and the dev-kits were incomplete.  I know you have to be smarter than you seem, because anyone with clear thinking faculties knows that games shown seven months prior to a system\'s release isn\'t going to reflect the power of a system.  I don\'t care how easy a system is supposed to be to program for.  

What pisses me off are the guys that compare 4 week old Gotham code to 3 year old GT3: A-Spec code.  Now, I believe Xbox will be a great system, but a developer just can\'t cut and paste code and expect everything to be magically upgraded.  The fact of the matter is that 4 week old code held it\'s own against GT3: A-Spec.  Imagine what the game will look like when it\'s actually FINISHED!!! You can\'t compare 10% of  a game on 50% of hardware to a 90% game on 100% hardware.  That\'s unfair and unrealistic.

Leatherface, you have to understand that GameStock was not intended to be a graphical Xbox showcase, but rather it was intended to show that Microsoft did indeed have first party titles in development for the Xbox, and we got to see what they were.  Now tell me, what other company will be launching with more first party titles than Microsoft?  That\'s what the show was attempting to show you.  Every intellecutally honest person knows that the Xbox will be 3 times more powerful than PS2, so there was no need for MS to try and prove that.  You are acting like this is how the games will look at launch.  If it were August or September, yeah, I would be worried too.  But, dammit, it\'s March!  E3 hasn\'t even come yet, nor has the GDC or TGS.  Stop jumping to conclusions before you see the whole picture.  People like you are hard to understand because you bash Microsoft for not living up to your unreasonably high expectations.  I guess Microsoft could have put together a few high-end Toy Story-like, non-playable demos of how Xbox games WILL LOOK LIKE ON FINISHED HARDWARE, but then you would complain that "Xbox is screwed because the games weren\'t playable!"  Some people just can\'t be pleased.  If you act this way toward Xbox, no console is good enough for you.  Just quit gaming.
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: nO-One on March 15, 2001, 09:03:32 AM
Grrr Darth you didn\'t include me:rpissed:.The happy poster with all the whitty comments ;):D
Now I am mad at you sticks out his tounge to show his discontempt
nah just kidding you know I love\'ya.
Anyhoo welcome to the forums leatherface,enjoy yourself.
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Bossieman on March 15, 2001, 09:34:17 AM
Is this a x-box forum?
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Darth Joyda on March 15, 2001, 10:50:39 AM
My humble apology, nO-One :)

Let me include some I forgot... to you Leatherface:
nO-One - humble, funny and ...erm... "wise" ( just look at his brain-scan-pic and you can see ;) )
Politiepet - funny name, funny pic. Funny person :)
Dr. Yassam - Debates like no tomorrow. A professional.
Ginko - the devil clown from h3ll. Watch, as he might post you into a bag... :)
Avatarr - Angel from H3ll. The most evil member after SoulGrind. Was a mod. He writes wisely, thus very evil words.
Hawke - a nice, wipE\'out" freak from Finland ( I\'m from Finland too BTW. ) - and his girlfriend...
SmallLady - Hawke\'s girlfriend. The only girl around. From Finland too. Nice. Havent had time to post here often \'tho.
Simchoy - where has he gone again? Nice person but rarely met :)

Agh, I won\'t continue as I see this is becoming to be just a list of members. I just can\'t point out something out of everybody! Sorry...
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Joker on March 15, 2001, 10:55:29 AM
bah!

I get left out of EVERY list we ever make. People always forget about me, its damn annoying.

you don\'t know how many times I get
"Hey, who\'s that hottie in the corner?"

ITS ME!! but don\'t just love me cause of my beautiful face :)
Title: Re: So I guess I\'m an Idiot, Right?
Post by: kirath on March 15, 2001, 11:11:24 AM
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Originally posted by DirectXbox



Leatherface, you have to understand that GameStock was not intended to be a graphical Xbox showcase, but rather it was intended to show that Microsoft did indeed have first party titles in development for the Xbox, and we got to see what they were.  Now tell me, what other company will be launching with more first party titles than Microsoft?  That\'s what the show was attempting to show you.  Every intellecutally honest person knows that the Xbox will be 3 times more powerful than PS2, so there was no need for MS to try and prove that.  You are acting like this is how the games will look at launch.  If it were August or September, yeah, I would be worried too.  But, dammit, it\'s March!  E3 hasn\'t even come yet, nor has the GDC or TGS.  Stop jumping to conclusions before you see the whole picture.  People like you are hard to understand because you bash Microsoft for not living up to your unreasonably high expectations.  I guess Microsoft could have put together a few high-end Toy Story-like, non-playable demos of how Xbox games WILL LOOK LIKE ON FINISHED HARDWARE, but then you would complain that "Xbox is screwed because the games weren\'t playable!"  Some people just can\'t be pleased.  If you act this way toward Xbox, no console is good enough for you.  Just quit gaming.


Any intellecutall person should know that its more then 3 times more powerfull.  What in hell are you talking about??  Its not 3 times more powerfull, and I doubt that we will ever see any graphics comming from the X-baux that are 3 times more powerfull.  But I guess Im not intellecutally inclined then.  I must be some wandering retard then...  You continue to amaze me with your flagrant posts..  I can understand defending the X-baux to a point....  But your a zealot about it and no one really wants to listen to you anymore.

I was going to give the X-baux a couple thoughts, but more and more I can\'t stand to even say it...

And "GameStock was not intended to be a graphical Xbox showcase" well what in the hell was it for.  All the hype building up to this event was geared toward MS showing its supposed superitority...  Well even the hardcore PC games dissed the X-baux, and some of them are hardcore MS gamers...  ITs not looking good.  So guit lashing out against everyone..  We really don\'t care about your short game commings...  Ok

:D
Title: Re: Re: So I guess I\'m an Idiot, Right?
Post by: DirectXbox on March 15, 2001, 11:38:30 AM
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Originally posted by kirath


Any intellecutall person should know that its more then 3 times more powerfull.  What in hell are you talking about??  Its not 3 times more powerfull, and I doubt that we will ever see any graphics comming from the X-baux that are 3 times more powerfull.  But I guess Im not intellecutally inclined then.  I must be some wandering retard then...  You continue to amaze me with your flagrant posts..  I can understand defending the X-baux to a point....  But your a zealot about it and no one really wants to listen to you anymore.



First of all, let me make my point clear, I was not insulting your intelligence with the term "intellectually honest", however you just insulted yourself by not knowing what it means.  :D  To be intellectually honest means that you have to look at something without bias and stand on neutral ground...kind of like me.  I love my PS2, but the notion that a system three times more powerul than PS2 coming out TWO YEARS after the PS2 hardware was complete, doesn\'t surprise me.  I\'m willing to give the Xbox (not X-baux...is that supposed to be funny?) a chance.  Some weird logic in your head seems to be preventing you from realizing that a newer system will obviously be more powerful than an older system.  I\'m willing to accept that.  Now if I were going around saying, "Xbox will be BETTER than the PS2", you would have good reason to be perturbed.  You may use "BETTER" and "MORE POWERFUL" interchangably, but I don\'t.  Better != more powerful by anyone\'s means.  I won\'t comment on whether or not Xbox will be "better" than the PS2, but I think I\'m not stretching the facts when I say that it will be 3 times more powerful than the PS2.  That\'s not stretching the imagination, that\'s realistic for hardware that is released two years after the previous one.  

Why don\'t you believe that Xbox isn\'t 3 times more powerful than the PS2?  Are you judging by half-baked software and tech demos thrown together in one month?  Are you judging demos on under-powered dev-kits?  If you are, I\'m asking you to reevaluate things a little.  Is that really fair?  Is comparing half-baked software to complete software fair by your standards?  If it is, then that tells alot about you.  An intellectually honest person would realize it and reserve their judgement until the software is more complete or when it is on fair ground.  E3 will be fair ground to make comparisons because new Xbox and new PS2 games will be on display and Xbox fans can\'t say, "well, the games aren\'t anywhere near complete!"  Then we can say, "then why did MS show it at E3?"  Wait until E3.  That sound fair enough to you?

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I was going to give the X-baux a couple thoughts, but more and more I can\'t stand to even say it...


Well here\'s a couple of thoughts: Wait until TGS (two weeks) and wait until E3.  Fair enough?

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And "GameStock was not intended to be a graphical Xbox showcase" well what in the hell was it for.  All the hype building up to this event was geared toward MS showing its supposed superitority...  Well even the hardcore PC games dissed the X-baux, and some of them are hardcore MS gamers...  ITs not looking good.  So guit lashing out against everyone..  We really don\'t care about your short game commings...  Ok

:D


Yes.  And I stand by that claim.  If all Microsoft wanted to do was show pretty pictures then they would have made all of the games pre-rendered and unplayable.  GameStock is an event where Microsoft shows off that it can deliver content and what this content will be.  E3 will be the Xbox tour de force because Xbox software will be running on 100%(meaning finished) Xbox hardware.  Please, do yourself a favor and wait until E3.  GameStock was a success since we know MS will be launching more first party titles than anyone else.
Title: To DirectXbox
Post by: Ethan_Hunt on March 15, 2001, 11:47:03 AM
I compared Gotham to GT3 a-spec,and all i can say is,what is the point in showing a 4 week old code?
People are going to insult it,so dont get your self worried about it,i am sure that in a years time it will look alot better,and i will say that it looks better if it does.
Title: Hi leatherface
Post by: kirath on March 15, 2001, 12:28:55 PM
Welcome to the forums and sorry for filling your post with Debating crap.  I realize it should not have happend here, Im just trying to realize peoples points which they mistakenly made in your post..


DirectXBaux if you want to continue lets goto console debating where this belongs..  Agreed...??

And leatherface I hope you enjoy the forums,  there are a lot of good people here and some good discussions..
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: EThugg on March 15, 2001, 03:13:50 PM
There certainly are a bunch of haterz here...

hey leather. I got a question for you. How can you be a \'former\' fan of a product that hasn\'t been released yet even? You are basing your opinions on screenshots... If I did that, I\'d have not gotten a PS2... narrowminded is a word that comes to mind...
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: on March 16, 2001, 03:02:14 AM
hey leather. I got a question for you. How can you be a \'former\' fan of a product that hasn\'t been released yet even? You are basing your opinions on screenshots... If I did that, I\'d have not gotten a PS2... narrowminded is a word that comes to mind
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To answer your question Ethugg, I did not have a change of heart based only on graphics.  The games shown, nearly a third of the supposed 30 or so at launch, looked like the gameplay would be lacking or else something I wouldn\'t like. I saw nothing that looked innovative really, even the mighty Halo looked like Tribes with better graphics.  I was pushed away more by this lack of innovation than the graphics.  I have to admit I was initially attracted to the XBOX because of Nvidia\'s rep.  I think they make the best cards in the business.  But the way the games looked were very PC looking, making XBOX look more and more like the stripped PC people have been accusing it of being all along.  PS2 is very solid right now.  In my mind XBOX will have to prove that it can compete.  I\'ll give it a year before I buy it because MS is unproven in this arena.  Many people percieve MS as uncool at least and evil at the most.  We\'ll see...
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: ProfessorX on March 16, 2001, 06:39:50 AM
Ok Ok I have to step in here....What the hell do people mean when they say \'PC LOOKING\'??  Graphics are graphics!   The only thing I see different are \'
THEMES\'....you know mario, crash bandicoot, and sonic to name a few but I would never classify ANY of the next generation systems as \'PC LOOKING\' reguardless of what kind of game it is.

Is that an official term that I don\'t know about or just something  someone threw around that caught on as an excuse to look down upon??  Please stop that BS anyone worth their weight in this forum that deals with graphics knows damn well there is no such thing as \'PC LOOKING\' graphics!
 
Just come right out and say you don\'t like the damn graphics rather than say \'PC LOOKING\' because I know damn well in the later part of a console\'s life span that \'PC LOOKING\' comment would be a compliment!
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: ooseven on March 16, 2001, 06:46:57 AM
Well said leather, but i think you should go with your gut instinct on this one.

Like what i did, i chose to go with the PS2 , not for the Graphics or Backward compatability, but for the simple fact this i actually got a chance to play it early on and was impressed with the gameplay, even in the launch titles.

After all is said and done it\'s the gameplay that makes you comeback for more even years after the original release. Why just look at the reason why people still play DOOM for example.

The PS2 has inovation in bucket loads ,and it still hangs on to the gameplay elements of the poriginal PSX to Boot.

if You want a Xbox then so be it, but that still dose not stop you from either buying or liking the Nintendo game cube or Playstation 2.

All three systems have great games for example

PS2
MGS2
ZOE
GT3
Getaway


XBox
Halo
Malice
(sorry don\'t know much about this one).

Gamecube
Zelda
Perfect Dark 2

Anyway enough of the consoles, WELCOME to the Forum LeatherHead.

Listen to the Wise members Like Samwise etc.

And ignore the total Gimps Like Jaggies who like to count Jaggie count rather than play a bloody game.
Title: 3do: second coming
Post by: on March 16, 2001, 11:56:35 AM
can anyone remember the 3do? superior to anyone at the time. lacked the games. x-box following the same road.
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Terry Bogard on March 16, 2001, 05:32:07 PM
Ahh welcome to the forums...

We can always welcome the new people to the forums....oh wait im still new...Damnit!!!

:D
Title: Re: 3do: second coming
Post by: EThugg on March 16, 2001, 09:10:49 PM
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Originally posted by krom
can anyone remember the 3do? superior to anyone at the time. lacked the games. x-box following the same road.



XB is following nothing, its not out yet... and 3D0 failed more due to cost than games...


And leather: like what you want, I personally get every system, and enjoy everyone. But by your own admission, youve seen only 1/3 of the launch line up. I must say, unless you 1-cant afford it, or 2-(like me) will definitly buy it, you should wait til E3 to make calls on the system...
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Dwarrior on March 17, 2001, 12:29:44 AM
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Originally posted by Jumpman

Whoooo let the troll out??? :laughing:

Honestly, shut up jaggies. We have already heard your misguided, uneducated, twisted, and insane opinion and views on things enough. Just shut the hell up. Madden2001 looks better than NFLFever and that is extremely obvious, and it\'s only a first-gen game.

 The Xbox was over hyped and now we see it\'s terrible truth. Live with it and shut the hell up.

Speaking of trolls, there\'s ProfesserX. :laughing:


  Gameday is out, completed and ready to go on the PS2 and it looks like crap even for a PSX game.

  Microsoft\'s games are seven months from being completed, what is sony\'s excuse?

  GT3 won\'t even be out until June....

  You gotta love Sony whores.... Always sucking....

 Do that for a living Jumponaman?
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Jumpman on March 17, 2001, 01:42:05 AM
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Gameday is out, completed and ready to go on the PS2 and it looks like crap even for a PSX game.

Microsoft\'s games are seven months from being completed, what is sony\'s excuse

What a weak argument. Everyone here knows 989 isn\'t worth of mentioning. Try using Madden 2001 for your example next time. A PS2 launch game which looks better than a Xbox game(and it runs on an imcomplete dev kit also). I thought Xbox was supposed to be 3 times more powerful? Meh.


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GT3 won\'t even be out until June....

Relevance?

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You gotta love Sony whores.... Always sucking....

Sony whore?bwahahahahahah! Anyone agree? bwahahahahahhahaha!

Ok Docwiz, you\'ve had enough cum sucking for one knight. Just put your daddy\'s penis down... :laughing:

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Do that for a living Jumponaman?

**** no.

Docwiz, you suck on so many different levels. :laughing:
Title: Former XBOX fan, new to this forum, needs info
Post by: Samwise on March 17, 2001, 02:50:54 AM
Ah, wasn\'t all this flaming fun.

Xbox certainly brings up a lot of mixed emotions.