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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: BizioEE on March 26, 2001, 06:09:23 AM
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"EA Sports made an official announcement regarding new sports games today by highlighting release dates for future titles like Madden NFL 2002, NCAA Football 2002, NBA Street, and you know the rest. They are currently planning on releasing six sports titles for the Playstation 2 this Summer and Fall. As it stands, this looks like the Summer of 2001 will belong to EA Sports. First you\'ve got Madden 2002, which is planned for a Summer release. Then NCAA Football 2002, which is also planned for a Summer release. Along with the football titles comes NBA Street, aimed for Summer 2001. On the ice we have NHL 2002 which is the last game planned for the Summer of 2001. Other games like FIFA 2002 and Nascar 2002 are both planned for Fall 2001 releases. NBA Live 2002 currently has no release date, however, our guess is aimed towards January 2002."
http://www.ps2web.com/article.asp?id=1396
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Are you excited?!?
All they are going to do is update the roster and slap a 2 in place of the 1. I really doubt they will be adding anything innovative or new, because they are developing all those same games for GC and Xbox.
Well, I\'ll wait and see what E3 says about them...
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Now if only Sega Sports would release their franchises on PS2, then EA would be in for a fight. Competition makes better products. :D
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Im waiting for EA\'s Rumble Racing.....
I hope they continue the Strike Series using polygons instead of sprites.
I want Road Rash/Need For SPeed ps2...
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Hmpf.. I don\'t like sportsgames much.
If I wanna play ball I go outside. btw I think
EA sports is a bit overrated.
Knotter8
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Originally posted by Ginko
Are you excited?!?
All they are going to do is update the roster and slap a 2 in place of the 1.
I\'m not so sure about Madden NFL 2002 :D
I really doubt they will be adding anything innovative or new, because they are developing all those same games for GC and Xbox.
May you explain to me your line of reasoning?
Well, I\'ll wait and see what E3 says about them...
Agreed :D...I think the E3 will give us a more careful description of these games rather than our rash statement...don\'t you agree?
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EA... bah!...
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Originally posted by EThugg
EA... bah!...
Thats what I think sometimes about EA when they release rushed,plain upgraded and unoriginal games(Like Need for Speed).
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Thats what I think sometimes about EA when they release rushed,plain upgraded and unoriginal games(Like Need for Speed).
Yup. King of the uninspired licensed sequels and franchises they are.
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Madden 2002!!!! Bring it on!!!!!!! :D
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http://www.zdnet.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2701187,00.html
EA announces its sports lineup for 2001.
On its official Web site, EA Sports has announced that it will release titles for both the PlayStation and the Xbox this year. The announcement of PlayStation games comes as no surprise considering the company continued to support the SNES and Sega Genesis long after they were no longer considered viable platforms by other third-party developers. The announcement of Xbox titles solidifies statements made by EA earlier in the year that it would support Microsoft\'s Xbox this year. No games were announced for Nintendo\'s GameCube. The complete list follows.
NBA Street - PlayStation 2 - Summer 2001
NCAA Football 2002 - PlayStation 2 - Summer 2001
Madden NFL Football 2002 - PlayStation 2, PlayStation, PC
NASCAR 2001 - PlayStation - Fall 2001
NHL 2001 - PlayStation 2 - Fall 2001
Madden NFL Football 2002 - Xbox - Fall 2001
FIFA 2002 (working title) - PlayStation 2, PlayStation - Fall 2001
NASCAR 2002 - PlayStation 2, Xbox - Fall 2001
Notghing announced for GC, 2 titles announced for Xbox
Doesn\'t look like EA is jumping on the Xbox bandwagon either.
Madden 2001 was a kick ass game, and you know it will get upgrades in all areas. EA learning the PS2 hardware can be attributed to it lacking a few features and the fact it was to be a lunch game as well.
Also EA knows how much maoney to pur into certain franchises and still make a profit, thats why EA is the 3rd largest Videogame maker in the industry.
If people didn\'t like there games they wouldn\'t sell so well. So those of you who ***** just don\'t buy the games, but obviously EA appeals to alot of gamers
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Originally posted by ddaryl
So those of you who ***** just don\'t buy the games, but obviously EA appeals to alot of gamers
Outside of SSX, I haven\'t bought a new/full priced EA game in 5+ years... And while they may appeal to lots of people, it doesn\'t make them good.
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Originally posted by EThugg
Outside of SSX, I haven\'t bought a new/full priced EA game in 5+ years... And while they may appeal to lots of people, it doesn\'t make them good.
Actually it does make them good, becuase if your not good people won\'t buy your games.
It may not appeal to you or a few others but it sure as hell appeals to alot and that is all that counts.
I doubt EA will change to please the minority
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Actually it does make them good, becuase if your not good people won\'t buy your games.
It may not appeal to you or a few others but it sure as hell appeals to alot and that is all that counts.
I doubt EA will change to please the minority
I doubt EA will change too, but have you been inhaling toxic gases lately? Your logic is moronic at best. It sells, so that makes it good? What? So Army Men, Spec Ops, Pokemon, and the Tomb Raider series (all having been good sellers) are good games, right? Damn, you seem to be getting real dumb with certain topics lately....
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listen Ethugg, it seems to me that so many people out there like yourself think only what they like is good.
I think EA doeas a really good job on most of its games.
Madden i s agreat game. NHL2001 is a great games SSX is a great game
A few EA games didn;t meet expectations but its still 1st generation PS2 games and EA is in the business of making money. They know how much money to sink inot each game franchise. They are not going to pour and extra 5 million inot a game that will never sell enough to make it back just so you can say its a great game. There\'s a balance between making masterpieces good games and going bankrupt
My logic is far from faulty, I just have a clue why some games don\'t live up or set new expectations
Alot of gamers like yourself expect nothing but perfection, but I don\'t think any gamer in this forum would spend $100 for a game to cover the resources needed to make these gems.
BUT over 2 or 3 generations of games on the PS2 EA will be able to combine the resources expended inot its games and gradually make them better and improved.
as for Pokemon and Armymen. If you we\'re the company that made these games and millions of people bought them then would you listen to the people that say they suck or would you make those games for the group of people who enjoy them.
ETHUGG you obviously have allowed yourself to believe that only the games you like are worthy. That the millions of people who like these games are idiots, which they\'re not.
Its no different then Sega Zealots or Nintendo Zealots insiting that these 2 comapnies are untouchable and nobody compares which I don\'t agree with in the slightest, so does that make me an idiot
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Uhhh, I said selling well doesnt = good games. I never said people can\'t like things I don\'t like. And I stand by it cause I\'m right. And EA milks franchises as much as ANY company. I can critisize them for it as much as I want.
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Originally posted by EThugg
Uhhh, I said selling well doesnt = good games. I never said people can\'t like things I don\'t like. And I stand by it cause I\'m right. And EA milks franchises as much as ANY company. I can critisize them for it as much as I want.
yes you can, and I can explain to you the business model and the reasoning why comapnies do this without having it suggested that,
have you been inhaling toxic gases lately? Your logic is moronic at best
which I may add I do not appreciate, especially since I did no such thing to you.
and any game that sells well is a good game in the eyes of a Dev or Publisher. Not everygame is designed to meet Ethugg\'s target audience. Your opinion is noted, but I don\'t think your really grasping what I\'m saying about certain franchises and the reasons they don\'t get these massive upgrades this early in the PS2\'s life.
Lets see how EA does in their 2nd gen PS2 games and 3rd gen PS2 games. The 1st batch was merely and upgrade form the last batch of PS1 games. EA had a learning curve and resource investment which sucked up alot of the money and time needed to implement all these great next gen upgrades your expecting.
and all I am saying is there is a Business logic that plays into the reasoning.
So no I\'m not huffin glue or anything, I\'m just thinking outside the box
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So no I\'m not huffin glue or anything, I\'m just thinking outside the box
You\'re going out on a limb, not many people can think outside the box. :)
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- what\'s in the f\'cking box?
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You originally said: \'Actually it does make them good, becuase if your not good people won\'t buy your games.
It may not appeal to you or a few others but it sure as hell appeals to alot and that is all that counts. \'
You did not say that companies think that way until l8er posts. You just said \'Actually it does make them good, becuase if your not good people won\'t buy your games.\' And that was WRONG. I still meant everything I said, and if you took \'inhaling\' comments personally, you aren\'t fit to be a mod, cause your way too sensitive. It was a obvious exaggeration, like if I had asked if you were on crack or something... lighten up.
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Originally posted by EThugg
I still meant everything I said, and if you took \'inhaling\' comments personally, you aren\'t fit to be a mod, cause your way too sensitive. It was a obvious exaggeration, like if I had asked if you were on crack or something... lighten up.
Basically you threw an insult at me in regards to my latest posts. I felt you could have just made comments in a more productive matter then to suggest my debate is the result of my addiction to Elmers :D
I also figured since you we\'re familiar with my last 2 days rants on my reasonings for lots of games not gatting a full package of upgrades you already understood my position and what I was getting onto earlier in this debate
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I did understand what you said, just cause you were more specific later on, doesnt mean your \'sales=quality\' original argument was right. Maybe you meant something else, but I dissed you for what you originally said, not what you meant to say.
Damn you and your post editing! I don\'t know what to say even... :p
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well I didn\'t make myself as clear as I had too
I think EA will have a much better go around in regards to franchise upgrades with 2nd gen versions on the PS2.
I don\'t think EA is "the best" in the business, but I do think alot of people are attacking EA for there 1st gen PS2 games that did not get the amount of upgrades expected for the PS2. So my rants are an effort to explain why I think EA has come up short on a solid handful of its yearly sport franchises and why I believe its just a generational thing do to resources and sales expectations for each franchise.
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Originally posted by ddaryl
well I didn\'t make myself as clear as I had too
I think EA will have a much better go around in regards to franchise upgrades with 2nd gen versions on the PS2.
I don\'t think EA is "the best" in the business, but I do think alot of people are attacking EA for there 1st gen PS2 games that did not get the amount of upgrades expected for the PS2. So my rants are an effort to explain why I think EA has come up short on a solid handful of its yearly sport franchises and why I believe its just a generational thing do to resources and sales expectations for each franchise.
EA was doing what I\'m complaining about long before PS2. Small Soldiers anyone? :D
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Originally posted by EThugg
Yup. King of the uninspired licensed sequels and franchises they are.
I don\'t always agree with what you say, but there I think you hit the nail on the head. EA Sports are the perpetual sh!t shovellers of the gaming industry, with the exception of a few franchises, and a few specific games, their release list over the past few years has been indeed cluttered with uninspired sequels. They basically live off their marketing, their licences, the fact that the gaming press loves them off, and in many instances exclusivity.
Look at three staple franchises:
NBA Live: Since NBA Live 98 how has this franchise changed in terms of the game engine and control? Answer: It hasn\'t.
Every incarnation has updated rosters, graphics, new comentary, and throw in a crossover button. The AI is STILL as asinine now as it was then, with players who have a clear lane to the basket taking jump shots.
NHL: I have a lot of problems with this series, even though I have bought every PC incarnation since \'93. Sure the newest version has better options (I like the sliders) but really has the game changed? It\'s still no where NEAR a representation of true NHL hockey.
Fifa: Since Fifa RTWC 98 this series has been the most overrated computer software product in the history of mankind. Fifa 2001 is the biggest pile of dog cr@p since, well, Fifa 2000. I have the PSX, PS2, and PC versions (thank God I didn\'t have to buy them), but they\'re basically the same game engine since Fifa 99, tack on some new graphics, a new intro sequence, sell a couple more million copies.
I\'ll give Madden 2001 PS2 a break because it was an excellent game, and I\'m hopefull for EA Sports BIG because SSX was the most original and inspired title EA Sports have released since Fifa 96.
A lot of their success also comes thanks to marketing, and exclusivity. If you want a basketball game on the PC what other option do you have? Same goes for hockey and soccer. Thanks to the terminal retards at 989 Sports, EA Sports also practically have a monopoly in sports games on the consoles.
Even when a game of pure genius like ISS Pro Evolution (never heard of it? it was a top seller in Japan, and that\'s about it) comes out the EA Sports cheerleaders at IGN give the game a 4.9 out of 10.0 complaining about the difficulty level and lack of a licence.
Honestly, I appreciate what EA Sports did for sports gaming in the early 90s, but now they\'re living off their name and the lack of competition. I can\'t wait for Visual Concepts to come in and show EA Sports that gameplay doesn\'t = graphics. Of course EA will probably just counter with a new marketing blitz, celebrity endorsement, inept reviewing at DR, IGN etc.
I can\'t wait for N\'Sync to be announced as the guys doing the soundtrack for Fifa 2002.
/Rant