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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Kituka on March 28, 2001, 11:50:54 AM
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.....and they look great!!! For a game that has 6 or so months left until completion, gee whiz, you know? To me, it already looks better than Namco\'s baby......we\'ll see if it\'s better-playing, though.
http://cgi.gaming-age.com/gaming/news/news.pl?y=2001&m=3&nid=28-175.db
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Those are some mean looking shots! U know, I can\'t WAIT to get an Xbox. From what I see and hear, the games on Xbox are something you just can\'t recreate on any other console!
But on the Delta game, OMG!! Look at those graphics! If gameplay is anything near the quality of those graphics, this game is gonna rock some hard ass!
Dude, now who stole my car?
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Originally posted by Kituka
.....and they look great!!! For a game that has 6 or so months left until completion, gee whiz, you know? To me, it already looks better than Namco\'s baby......we\'ll see if it\'s better-playing, though.
http://cgi.gaming-age.com/gaming/news/news.pl?y=2001&m=3&nid=28-175.db
The game has good Graphics but AC4 looks better!
Airforce Delta - X-Box
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fga-media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2F2001%2Fmarch%2Fairforcex%2F3.jpg&hash=4a098a493d4009bf175b250e167660a7afa13e1c)
AC4 - PS2
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.psera.com%2Fscreens%2Fac4_87.jpg&hash=d505e386982b4e98840fac58f856aba8e0b2ab85)
Airforce Delta - X-Box
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fga-media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2F2001%2Fmarch%2Fairforcex%2F2.jpg&hash=131cdb343e794256c6b9f368fa62dfdbe7f9daa6)
AC4 - PS2
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.psera.com%2Fscreens%2Fac4_86.jpg&hash=ef57c22d76a249ebdc31de5479a251dad19a433a)
Airforce Delta - X-Box
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fga-media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2F2001%2Fmarch%2Fairforcex%2F1.jpg&hash=9d8173e82e4ba1520f15db2278a296e34fc3f195)
AC4 - PS2
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.psera.com%2Fscreens%2Fac4_85.jpg&hash=8ac9b08ebfb7ac1d45e307e367257d086280d97a)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.psera.com%2Fscreens%2Fac4_77.jpg&hash=16da078cd6ddc8e3c5de2cff1786877ef6f1c4ad)
AC4 has FAR a more realistic look!
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Whats the point BizioEE? I hope your point is there\'s 2 great flight games coming out instead of one, and not that you think one looks better. You too Kituka. Both games look great, and neither has an edge atm.
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Don\'t care what one is better seeing that i will stick to my PS2 !
unless both games are released on the playstation 2
then i will have one tough desision to make.
if you get a PS2 and X box then i reconmend you get both of the games ;).
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I think each has its pros and cons graphically.
I find them both as impressive although AC4 has a more realistic look
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Both of them are Jagtastic!!! But at least the Xbox version has an excuse. :D
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Both shots look sweet. But gameplay shots ??
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both look kool but AC4 looks way more impressive visually and seeing that i prefer PS2 over Hexbox (yep i do not like Microsoft in case Ethugg "defender of MS" asks what\'s my point :D ),well all the better then :)
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Originally posted by MeTaL=DeaTh
both look kool but AC4 looks way more impressive visually and seeing that i prefer PS2 over Hexbox (yep i do not like Microsoft in case Ethugg "defender of MS" asks what\'s my point :D ),well all the better then :)
Uhhh, the AFD2 shots arent from the same perspective, so you cant really judge how the terrain compares. And the ship models are the same. So what I\'m saying is no, AC4 is NOT \'way more\', r even a bit more, impressive.
Hexbox? Wha..? I don\'t recall anyond here calling PS2 names, and boy, I can think of some....
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I have to say those pics look more or less equal, but the point for me now is, if the xbox remains in this graphical level, there is no point for me to get an xbox, since I already have a ps2.
now xbox fans don\'t think I said your console is going to suck, but I say we\'ll have to wait and see, as of now, the two look equal, which IMO is not good enough for xbox since the thing is released two years after ps2!
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Originally posted by politiepet
...as of now, the two look equal, which IMO is not good enough for xbox since the thing is released two years after ps2!
Hmmm, I understand the point you\'re making, but it\'s not really true. Remember, you\'re comparing XBox games 6 months before launch to PS2 games 1 year after launch in japan. Try searching the net for PS2 pics 6 months before it\'s launch in Japan, i.e. September 1999.
Anyway, TGS is nearly here, so let\'s wait and see. :)
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But its easier to develop on XBOX.
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Yes, it\'s easier, that doesn\'t mean it\'s easy (it takes the talents of many and it takes time). Games don\'t write themselves! ;)
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Originally posted by Dr Yassam
Hmmm, I understand the point you\'re making, but it\'s not really true. Remember, you\'re comparing XBox games 6 months before launch to PS2 games 1 year after launch in japan. Try searching the net for PS2 pics 6 months before it\'s launch in Japan, i.e. September 1999.
Anyway, TGS is nearly here, so let\'s wait and see. :)
yes, too true, but it was also exactly what said, I said we\'ll have to wait and see, xbox probably will get better.
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Originally posted by Dr Yassam
Yes, it\'s easier, that doesn\'t mean it\'s easy (it takes the talents of many and it takes time). Games don\'t write themselves! ;)
I didnt say its easy.Its easier and it takes less time to manage great results.Ofcourse it takes talents of many and it takes time but the real challenge is on PS2\'s hardware.
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I just saw the AFD2 videos... it definitely looks at least as good...
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Originally posted by Unicron!
But its easier to develop on XBOX.
And here I was all set to develop on the PS2 :laughing:
Seriously though, that hangar shot of Airforce Delta is the most impressive.
CrazyDesi, dude I don\'t know who stole your car but "rocking some hard ass" is definitely not cool in my book.
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TGS 2001: Hands-on Impressions of Ace Combat 4:
http://ps2.ign.com/news/32872.html
"The most significant change between this and previous games in the series is unquestionable the game\'s visual detail. The plane models look good, albeit a bit jaggy around the edges, and the terrain is almost photo-realistic when viewed from a distance. The most impressive aspect of the visuals is without a doubt the special effects, though. The clouds look spectacular and the smoke trails from the missiles look amazingly true to life.
The only downer is that the visuals lose a lot of their realism when you get up close to the ground terrain. While everything looks photo-realistic from a distance, the texture quality takes a drastic hit when you fly the plane close to the ground. The ground textures are a bit blurry and almost look as bad as the good textures look on the Nintendo 64. However, this is only a small problem in what is a great looking game on the whole."
Hmmmm.....
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dr yassam you make it seem as if this is a problem that will not go away..the game has atleast 6 months left in development....by that time the terrain WILL look photo-realistc up close....
don\'t get mad because your flight shooter looks like a cartoon:laughing:
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Originally posted by Nplayer-2
dr yassam you make it seem as if this is a problem that will not go away..the game has atleast 6 months left in development....by that time the terrain WILL look photo-realistc up close....
don\'t get mad because your flight shooter looks like a cartoon:laughing:
Well fanboy. Seems you didnt watch the AFD2 video... it looks very realistic.
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Originally posted by Nplayer-2
dr yassam you make it seem as if this is a problem that will not go away..the game has atleast 6 months left in development....by that time the terrain WILL look photo-realistc up close....
Really? You mean like the way Bioware used texture streaming (quote "more texture memory than we know what to do with") to solve the texture requirements for MDK2 on the PS2...and yet they STILL failed to beat the DC in this area! :)
Yes this game has further development time left, but since when has this been of any concern to you, since you continuously ignore this fact when discussing current XBox games!!!
AC4 photo-realistic at a distance - Yes. AC4 photo-realistic up close - Nope.
Dream on NP, dream on! :D
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Originally posted by Dr Yassam
Really? You mean like the way Bioware used texture streaming (quote "more texture memory than we know what to do with") to solve the texture requirements for MDK2 on the PS2...and yet they STILL failed to beat the DC in this area! :)
...well...I think it\'s not so wise playing the same game of people you call "Trolls"...no offense:)...and however you should know that PS2 can do great Textures...look at Final Fantasy X...
(...don\'t get me wrong...I hold you in high esteem...the only X-Box fan I manage to speak with:))
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Originally posted by BizioEE
(...don\'t get me wrong...I hold you in high esteem...the only X-Box fan I manage to speak with:))
Thanks for that BizioEE, and for pointing out my brief visit to Trollston, home of Nplayer! :)
Reading it back again, I did indeed flame the PS2 far more than I intended (sorry about that), my real target was NP and his hypocracy. If you read NP\'s recent replies to my posts, perhaps you\'ll understand why. ;)
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could someone post the link to that xbox flight game, I want to make a good comparison, so I can judge for myself! thank you
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Originally posted by politiepet
could someone post the link to that xbox flight game, I want to make a good comparison, so I can judge for myself! thank you
Check the thread in the general forum. I got links to vids there.
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Sorry BizioEE, but I was right. Heres a new AFDII pic:
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyradar.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2F010330034922afd22.jpg&hash=8b8083e3efb21a582b6e20ae6124b9551f073400)
*Edit* Thanks, even better.
AC4 does not look better than this at all.
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http://www.dailyradar.com/previews/game_preview_1416.html
thats the link, for a dailyradar page. but in my opinion bothe games look good... and there wont be jaggies at launch im positive about that. isnt anti alasing one of the last things they do while writing a game? thx! :D
oh and both games have a bit before they are out, so i wouldnt compare the two titles just yet.. its just too early.. i mean one of the systems(x-box) hasnt even come out yet...
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Sorry EThugg :)
...please download these movies of AC4 at the bottom of the page...
http://www.acecombat04.com/down_f.html
:D
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Originally posted by BizioEE
Sorry EThugg :)
...please download these movies of AC4 at the bottom of the page...
http://www.acecombat04.com/down_f.html
:D
Uhhh, I posted that very link in the main forum b4. It doesnt look better. They are both photo realistic.
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Originally posted by EThugg
Uhhh, I posted that very link in the main forum b4. It doesnt look better. They are both photo realistic.
your opinion,not mine...it sure is hard for Xbox fans to take opposite opinions of game pics,most assume if it\'s on Xbox it can\'t be better elsewhere,it has 3x power / graphics,2 day development time :laughing: ,whatever..
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Originally posted by MeTaL=DeaTh
your opinion,not mine...it sure is hard for Xbox fans to take opposite opinions of game pics,most assume if it\'s on Xbox it can\'t be better elsewhere,it has 3x power / graphics,2 day development time :laughing: ,whatever..
Ummm, no. Its not hard for me to accept anything except the bull**** coming out of your mouth (well, keyboard). They ARE both photo realistic. Neither is better than photo realistic, neither is worse. Its totally which system you own that will decide which version ios for you. Since I have a PS2 and will have a XB, It doesnt matter. I have NO reason to defend the undefendable. This reasoning IS defendable. If you don\'t want XB, fine. If you dont want AFD2, fine. Don\'t say its less than what it is, just cause you own a PS2.
On paper, spec wise, XB IS 3x as powerful. I never said AFD2 looked 3x as powerful though.
Oh, and \':laughing: , whatever..\'.... thats a real good argument you got there. Sounds like you were stumbling to make sense and just gave up.
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Originally posted by EThugg
Ummm, no. Its not hard for me to accept anything except the bull**** coming out of your mouth (well, keyboard). They ARE both photo realistic. Neither is better than photo realistic, neither is worse. Its totally which system you own that will decide which version ios for you. Since I have a PS2 and will have a XB, It doesnt matter. I have NO reason to defend the undefendable. This reasoning IS defendable. If you don\'t want XB, fine. If you dont want AFD2, fine. Don\'t say its less than what it is, just cause you own a PS2.
On paper, spec wise, XB IS 3x as powerful. I never said AFD2 looked 3x as powerful though.
Oh, and \':laughing: , whatever..\'.... thats a real good argument you got there. Sounds like you were stumbling to make sense and just gave up.
don\'t take drugs Ethugg,just say no :D when did i say i don\'t want Xbox or that game AFD2?? all i said (in an earlier post) is that the AC4 pics looked more impressive,still do to me...it seems to really annoy you that i said that "bull****" :surprised :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by MeTaL=DeaTh
don\'t take drugs Ethugg,just say no :D when did i say i don\'t want Xbox or that game AFD2?? all i said (in an earlier post) is that the AC4 pics looked more impressive,still do to me...it seems to really annoy you that i said that "bull****" :surprised :rolleyes:
1-I don\'t take drugs.
2-Unless your looking at the prerendered wallpaper, it does NOT look better. You are WRONG. Period. This isn\'t a matter of opinion. Photo realistic is photo realistic. There\'s no wiggle room for opinions. If there are 2 exactly identical apples, you can\'t say one looks better, and these games are almost exactly the same graphics wise. Period!
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Originally posted by EThugg
1-I don\'t take drugs.
2-Unless your looking at the prerendered wallpaper, it does NOT look better. You are WRONG. Period. This isn\'t a matter of opinion. Photo realistic is photo realistic. There\'s no wiggle room for opinions. If there are 2 exactly identical apples, you can\'t say one looks better, and these games are almost exactly the same graphics wise. Period!
just give it up Ethugg,it\'s still my opinion...and yes there is a difference in those "photo realistic" pics,Namco\'s are better :D AC4 rules!!
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Originally posted by MeTaL=DeaTh
just give it up Ethugg,it\'s still my opinion...and yes there is a difference in those "photo realistic" pics,Namco\'s are better :D AC4 rules!!
Nope.
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IMO, those pics don\'t look foto realistic, they come very close though, but the (replay) movies lokk fotorealistic.
btw. IMO they both have their strong and their weaker sides, but they look equal. Ethugg, I agree with you on that, but if someone else thinks it\'s not, that\'s his opinion, you can\'t argue over someone\'s opinion, he has it or he don\'t, you can\'t change it, give it a rest!
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I\'ll argue with any one about anything. Your ugly! Cows are green. NO ONE CAN STOP ME! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! :D
Seriously, I don\'t care anymore, I just like messing with him.
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Originally posted by EThugg
I\'ll argue with any one about anything. Your ugly! Cows are green. NO ONE CAN STOP ME! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! :D
Seriously, I don\'t care anymore, I just like messing with him.
who\'s messing with who actually? i never did care,i loved seeing you get all hyper Ethugg..haha..AC4 still rules!! :D
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Originally posted by MeTaL=DeaTh
who\'s messing with who actually? i never did care,i loved seeing you get all hyper Ethugg..haha..AC4 still rules!! :D
If you don\'t care, and I don\'t care, what\'s the point? I guess its back to annoying Nplayer-2....
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Originally posted by EThugg
If you don\'t care, and I don\'t care, what\'s the point? I guess its back to annoying Nplayer-2....
well you got to do what you got to do i guess,before we leave here,let me remind you again that the AC4 pics rule!! :laughing:
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AC4 looks better IMO!
Jez, I really love that PC look of AFD2 ;) (j/k)
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