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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: TheGR81 on April 07, 2001, 08:16:46 AM
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If any of you have been following the news lately (I rarely do, but this is one of the things that I should), The United States and China are in a tense standoff. The reason is because a U.S. Spy Plane accidently crashed into a Chinese fighter jet and had to make a emergency landing in China, but now the Chinese are not releasing the 24 People aboard that plane.
It\'s been 6-7 days, and yesterday while I was watching one of the ARMY\'S officers said this, and I qoute: "Enough is Enough, China should release our people, and if they don\'t, We\'ll come and get them".
Now The U.S. and China are arguabely(sp?) the two most powerful nations in the world, and this could lead to WW3, just something to think about.
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I think this is the moment that psychics have been perdicting. But, Russia is the most powerful nation in the world. next to our good old country. China, which has many troops, doesn\'t have a Navy. So they won\'t be able to get their troups over here. And if the airplaned them over, we\'d just shoot them down. Beijings nuclear forces are about 1/10 the size of hours. Russia is the only country that can really compare to us.
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Russia?!, You must be joking me, Russia is so Bankrupt right now. Your mis-informed my friend, United States is comparable to China if not better. But anyhoo.....If U.S. Goes to war, so will Britain so will France. Because they have this little pact, I forgot but my Teacher told me that if anyone of the allied country\'s go to war the others will have to follow.
Or maybe he was lying to me.
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Russia spent A LOT of money on weapons during the cold war.And they still have them.That\'s what makes them a very formiddable enemy.
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I wouldn\'t want to go to war with either the US, Russia nor China. But read my sig and you can see what I think ot the new US president. He\'s a retarded imbicile and he\'s my biggest concern regarding a possible WW3 right now. I just hope the advisors etc. can control that monkey (http://www.bushorchimp.com).
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I hope we won\'t have war...It really nasty and bad.
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China is hardly a military threat to the United States. I\'d have to agree that the Soviet Union (is it called that any more?) would still be the country with a nice fat nuclear arsenal left over from the cold war to worry about.
Besides, this isn\'t really an issue that would cause a world war. China depends on trade with the United States in order to keep their economy moving. Without that China would crumble into economic despair. I think they just like to "poke us in the eye" every once in a while to be a pain in the ass... not a big deal though if we all act like grown-ups.
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I am a political junkie (after games of course:))
Here\'s the deal. Some here may be young, but remember the Iran hostage crisis?
Iran was holding hundreds of Hostages, and we got through that without a war, bombing or anything of the sorts. Iran arguably is a piss-ant military power with ties to the U.S.S.R. (at the time). If we really wanted to we could have forced Irans hand and went in guns blazing (Instead we traded guns) to get our people back. After all, they (Iran) would have no chance against us and the Soviets would have mosst likely not started WW3 over it.
Now it\'s China.
China is detaining a plane and a handfull of Americans. This is all nationalistic posturing to keep the Chinese people distracted from domestic woes. The only thing that will come of this is haggling and chest beating. In 6 months time you\'ll be hard pressed to find people who will even remember the incident.
Don\'t worry.
Oh, and on the Russia thing. Yes, they are piss-poor, but remember it\'s the domestic economy that is poor. Just as America is in a recession right now. When nations economys go south it\'s the working people that get "poor", the military\'s will ALWAYS get their piece of the pie. Russia, along with China are still very real threats to America, and the rest of the "free world"...Just not over these "detainies" (Hostages)
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Originally posted by Samwise
But read my sig and you can see what I think ot the new US president. He\'s a retarded imbicile and he\'s my biggest concern regarding a possible WW3 right now. I just hope the advisors etc. can control that monkey (http://www.bushorchimp.com).
Amen to that, he is a moron, but he\'s a role model to morons around the world - he lets them know that even if you\'re a moron you can still be the most powerful man in the world.
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Originally posted by Lavan
Amen to that, he is a moron, but he\'s a role model to morons around the world - he lets them know that even if you\'re a moron you can still be the most powerful man in the world.
Yes, and only in USA could such a moron get the top post. Sigh.
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That\'s arguable Samwise, besides he\'s not a moron, he just doesn\'t read from the teleprompter very well just yet.
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Actually I\'m glad George W is in charge. I think he\'ll do great with his foreign policy. I\'m just glad this didn\'t hit when Clinton was pres.
But I seriously doubt this will lead to any kind of war. Everybody has spies everywhere and everybody already knows it. You think China doesn\'t have spies over here? Look at all those Hunan restaurants. :D
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No offence, but GWB is no moron, and if you believe so...well then quite honestly you are the one with an I.Q near moronic levels.
Look-- George is a politician just like Al, or Bill or anyone else out there. Take a look at a persons accomplishments before you go throwing around imbicilic names that only come back and shine light on your ignorance.
I swear some people just like to listen to what other (dolts) are saying and ape them.
It\'s one thing if you disagree with a political party\'s idealogy, and such, but to falsely banter about names that aren\'t even close to being true is....well....moronic.
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There are various conflicts going on in the world and it wont stop in the future.
But I hope WW2 was the last of its kind - I lost both my grandfathers to it.
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NOONE will go to war with china against the US, IF i comes to that. look at kuwait and desort storm. did anyone bother to help them? no. china is struggling to hold onto thier dying ways.
im all for kommunism, but china = barbarism
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People might not agree with me but I have to say the U.S.\'s miitary has by far the most advanced technology. So I don\'t think we would have a problem facing China. And to make it even worst for the Chinese since most of the U.S. hate communists, especially commuist monkeys
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Even so, I\'m of ripe draft age, and I have no desire to die fighting over something so stupid. If I am to die in a war, I want to die knowing I was fighting for a just cause, like WWII.
But if it does happen, I\'m gonna kill me as many chinamen as I can, you betcha.
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China has cooled off now after accepting American apology...war will not break out unless some party shoot a missle to China from Taiwan.
If this does happen..China will not be much different from Iraq.
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I think Bush\'s idea to pull out of the Kyoto Agreement was one of the most asinine things he could do short of starting a major war. But maybe I should have seen that coming since the petroleum companies contributed heavily to his campaign. But of course, as he said, he\'s not sure about the science surrounding Global Warming. Pfft, saving the US economy, yes I wonder how much it will cost the American public when New Orleans is under several feet of water - but of course that\'s 10-15 years down the line and good old George won\'t have to worry then because he won\'t be in charge. Typical politician, thinking in the short term.
And then there\'s his withdrawl of aid for family planning around the world which is just as stupid. Ask any political and environmental science student or professor and they\'ll tell you how important family planning and the empowerment of women is not only to the demographic structure of third world populations but also it has major secondary effects upon the world economy and the environment.
As a student doing a specialist in Cell and Molecular Biology with a minor in Environmental Science I think I can say that on the basis of those two decisions, GWB is, IMO, a moron. He thinks the US is in a bubble and not affected by anything else going on in the world, and someone needs to tell him that the Cold War ended a while ago. He is a laughing stock in Europe and around the world.
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Originally posted by Waspman
China has cooled off now after accepting American apology...war will not break out unless some party shoot a missle to China from Taiwan.
If this does happen..China will not be much different from Iraq.
America never apologized, and probably won\'t either. Colon Powell said it\'s not nesscery
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I don\'t think it\'ll lead to war either, but I\'m a bit concerned about GWB. He\'s just not... presidential (is that even a word? ;)) stuff. I understand that some Americans might feel offended by the fact that I say GWB is a moron. They might even have voted for him. But I won\'t change my mind - I really feel he is not suitable for the job. And I don\'t like the way he seems to lean towards violent solutions like war etc. Don\'t even get me started on the whole China situation. Let me tell you, people all around the world are laughing at the election farce and the fact that GWB is president. Sad really. Here are some GWB quotes I\'ve found quite amusing:
"It\'s clearly a budget. It\'s got a lot of numbers in it."
-Reuters, May 5, 2000
"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
-Greater Nashua, N.H., Chamber of Commerce, Jan. 27, 2000
"The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case."
-Pella, Iowa. Quoted by the San Antonio Express-News, Jan. 30, 2000
"I understand small business growth. I was one."
-New York Daily News, Feb. 19, 2000
"I was raised in the West. The west of Texas. It\'s pretty close to California. In more ways than Washington, D.C., is close to California."
-In Los Angeles as quoted by the Los Angeles Times, April 8, 2000
Haha, this is a really good one:
GOV. BUSH: "Because the picture on the newspaper. It just seems so un-American to me, the picture of the guy storming the house with a scared little boy there. I talked to my little brother, Jeb...I haven\'t told this to many people. But he\'s the governor of...I shouldn\'t call him my little brother...my brother, Jeb, the great governor of Texas."
JIM LEHRER: "Florida"
GOV. BUSH: "Florida. The state of the Florida."
-The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer, April 27, 2000
"Actually, I...this may sound a little West Texan to you, but I like it. When I\'m talking about...when I\'m talking about myself, and when he\'s talking about myself, all of us are talking about me."
-Hardball, MSNBC, May 31, 2000
"This is Preservation Month. I appreciate preservation. It\'s what you do when you run for president. You gotta preserve." -Speaking during "PERSEVERENCE Month" at FairgroundsE lementary School in Nashua, N.H. Quoted by Los Angeles Times, Jan. 28, 2000
"There\'s not going to be enough people in the system to take advantage of people like me."
-On the coming Social Security crisis; Wilton, Conn.; June 9, 2000
And here\'s my favorite quote as seen in my sig
"I think anybody who doesn\'t think I\'m smart enough to handle the job is underestimating."
-U.S. News & World Report, April 3, 2000 (Thanks to Alfred Stanley, Austin, Texas.)
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Yes. I am american and GWB IS AN IDIOT. The Kyoto treaty thing really pissed me off also. People are polical retards (especially in the rural and southern states) And will vote for the wittier candidate. Gore won the popular vote... and if there wasn\'t this fiasco in florida, he\'d be president.
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Originally posted by Waspman
China has cooled off now after accepting American apology...war will not break out unless some party shoot a missle to China from Taiwan.
If this does happen..China will not be much different from Iraq.
The US has not and will not ever apologize to China for this incident. The US did nothing wrong. Apologizing would indicate that there were at fault for something. They were in international waters and there is nothing suspect about that.
As for Dubya. I did not vote for him but he is now the president of my country so I will back him 110%. Regardless of what he has done in the past he deserves our support. No matter what you hear on TV and on the Radio, you don\'t become president by being a moron. It is just that the media tends to exagerate the faults and put there successes on the back burner.
About military might. The US has one of the most advanced militaries in the world; but they are not without their faults. Israel has one of the best Air Forces in the world and overall the best fighter pilots in the world. China has the largest infantry in the world but the US\'s infantry is better trained and equipped than any infantry in the world. Russia is far from dead when it comes to the military. In fact there military is comparable to US in terms of technology. Just recently they released video of one of their new jets. This thing was effing incredible. It was literally able to turn on a dime and it forced congress to give the military more money for research. Don\'t sleep on Russia.
BTW, If I can find the link to the video I will post it. It seriously has to be seen to be believed. I might upload it to my webspace if I can\'t find it.
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Any moron can become president - it\'s just a matter of having the right background, money, support, money, parents and money.
And I can\'t help thinking about how the US would react to a Chinese spyplane 12 miles from the US coast? But oh, they did nothing wrong that\'s right. They were just enjoying the fine weather in their nice state of the art spyplane.
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Something like that did happen off the US coast, and we sent the plane back to China in boxes. John McCain\'s end of soft money will hopefully let less fortunate people run for president. PS. Where are you from, Samwise?
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Where are you from, Samwise?
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I\'m from Denmark in Europe.
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My God!! I can\'t believe you Samwise.
First off the American recon. plane was in International waters, 80+ miles off of the Chinese coast.
Secondly, yes China Does fly recon planes off our coast (mainly Hawaii).
Thirdly, you should actually learn the facts and truth before spouting off. Also, there is a big difference between a "spy" plane and a recon. plane. Learn it.
Also, if you want to have GWB\'s mis-speaks as a qualifier for moron-ship, then I guess 90% of the posters and people in general are morons, because we all mis-speak, and write typos. Except we don\'t have microphones and cameras in our faces. :p
Kyoto. Please. Do you guys actually look into this stuff?
I\'m not here to educate you, but look into the Kyoto details. Some nations are required to drastically cut pollutants while others are not. Period. That so-called agreement is about as fair as a carnival ring toss game.
And just a note. Natural events such as Volcanic eruptions and fires dump more "greenhouse" gasses (CO2) than we with our gass guzzling SUV\'s could ever hope to.
Do your part!!! Stop exhaling.
Yes, the planet may actually be warming, but our contribution is like piss in the pool.
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Sorry to all people in the US , if this thing gose off you won\'t be on your own.
The Whole bloddy world would want to take a side.
But the chances of this thing developing into a war is very small indeed, nether side wan\'ts a fight they just talk big so that they don\'t lose face.
USA don\'t want to say sorry because it makes them look weak
China don\'t want to backdown or they look weak.
this thing is just going to drag on for a short while with both sides mouthing off a lot of HOT AIR.
Let\'s face it the only thing that will be fired off in this is some bad words.
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I don\'t care about global warming. I don\'t care about environmentalists. I\'m an American and George W is lowering my taxes and I like that.
People should really stop saying "Gore won the popular vote" b/c it just shows stupidity. The United States Presidency has never ever been judged on popular vote. It has always been judged by electoral votes and then if there is a tie it goes to popular vote. Everyone knows that and eveyrone knew that before they voted. If the situation had been reversed you would hear none of this talk.
Some people may not like it that George W is our president and they complain about it like so many here do. Your complaints change nothing. And I for one don\'t want to hear it for 4 years (or 8).
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
I don\'t care about global warming. I don\'t care about environmentalists. I\'m an American and George W is lowering my taxes and I like that.
I\'m not a tree hugger. But without the enviroment WE WILL ****ING DIE!!! I\'m serious. You should care about the environment. You ever see that movie waterworld? Thats happening right now. The ice caps are melting. Also, because amphibians breath through there skin, they are already suffering from the effects. We could be next. I\'ll be laughing at you when you are covered in cancer and sunburns (I will be to though)
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
I don\'t care about global warming. I don\'t care about environmentalists. I\'m an American and George W is lowering my taxes and I like that.
People should really stop saying "Gore won the popular vote" b/c it just shows stupidity. The United States Presidency has never ever been judged on popular vote. It has always been judged by electoral votes and then if there is a tie it goes to popular vote. Everyone knows that and eveyrone knew that before they voted. If the situation had been reversed you would hear none of this talk.
Some people may not like it that George W is our president and they complain about it like so many here do. Your complaints change nothing. And I for one don\'t want to hear it for 4 years (or 8).
Sorry old chap but apart from being Scotland\'s No 1 Spy Guy
i am also an Environmentalist , and sorry the good old USA is the Super Villian when it comes to the Environment.
USA ...AOK..... nope not if you ask good old Mother Earth !
Same on you people don\'t you realise what your doing to the Planet ?
Stop wasting everything OK ! :rpissed:.
if you ask me we should use all of the Crap that GWB spouts and use it to Grow some ORGANIC Food.
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Originally posted by Animal Mother
I\'m not a tree hugger. But without the enviroment WE WILL ****ING DIE!!! I\'m serious. You should care about the environment. You ever see that movie waterworld? Thats happening right now. The ice caps are melting. Also, because amphibians breath through there skin, they are already suffering from the effects. We could be next. I\'ll be laughing at you when you are covered in cancer and sunburns (I will be to though)
I didn\'t say I didn\'t care about the environment. But I suburn easily anyway.
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Originally posted by CygnusXI
Kyoto. Please. Do you guys actually look into this stuff?
I\'m not here to educate you, but look into the Kyoto details. Some nations are required to drastically cut pollutants while others are not. Period. That so-called agreement is about as fair as a carnival ring toss game.
And just a note. Natural events such as Volcanic eruptions and fires dump more "greenhouse" gasses (CO2) than we with our gass guzzling SUV\'s could ever hope to.
Do your part!!! Stop exhaling.
Yes, the planet may actually be warming, but our contribution is like piss in the pool.
Do I look into the stuff? Hmm let me think, I\'m doing a minor in Environmental Science at University..hmm.... LOL Do you really believe that Natural Events dump more greenhouse gasses into the environment than cars and man made pollution? Maybe YOU should look into this stuff.
Brief Overview:
There has been a direct correlation with an increase in global temperature over the past two hundred years and the industrial revolution. Want to know why? Because 5 billion years ago when the world was just formed the atmosphere was primarily Carbon Dioxide. It was hot, bloody hot, nasty and there was no ozone layer. About three and a half billion years ago when obligate anaerobic phototrophs and then aerobic phototrophs came into play they assimulated the carbon dioxide from the atmosphere into organic matter. This in turn let to phagotropic pathways and cellular respiration (ie organisms eating stuff), over the next billion or so year the carbon in the atmosphere was assimilated into organic matter and oxygen was released into the atmosphere allowing for respiration and O2 + O2 = 03 (Ozone) +1/2 O2 = Ozone layer = no nasty UV rays = life on land.
Now what happened to that CO2 that was assimilated into organic carbon over several billion years? Well it became mircobes and other organisms. What happens when they die and sink to the bottom of the ocean (and in conjunction with tectonic movements) - that\'s right they become OIL, COAL, AND NATURAL GAS.
So what are oil coal and natural gas (and also limestone)? That\'s right again, they\'re the several billion years work of CO2 assimilation.
What happens when you burn OIL, COAL and NATURAL GAS - oh yes, that\'s right you RETURN the CO2 BACK into the atmosphere, thus undoing the work of the faculatative anaerobic and aerobic cyanobacteria (and bacteria) that got rid of it in the first place.
IN OTHER WORDS: You\'re returning the Earth back to it\'s state several billion years ago - ie HOT and Nasty.
That\'s it in a nutshell, but I\'ve been studying this in depth for the past three and a half years at the University level so if you want more info let me know.
Don\'t listen to the Petroleum Companies spin doctoring of the situation. Global Warming is real, and it\'s going to f-ck up the entire world, Rob you may care about the US economy more than the world, but you have to understand that the US is not in a bubble - global warming will affect agriculture, the weather, and even if it doesn\'t have a DIRECT impact upon the US (which is very very very unlikely), it will affect the global economy.
Everything is connected, and those hippies in the 60s yelling about \'Spaceship Earth\' weren\'t totally high on weed after all.
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
I didn\'t say I didn\'t care about the environment. But I suburn easily anyway.
I guess that means you\'ll die quicker. So you should be worried.
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Dude I NEVER said I want the Earth to die. I said "I don\'t care about environmentalists".
They make lots of laws that I see as unnecessary. And probably George W did, too.
Now STOP SAYING I WANT THE PLANET TO DIE!
And I do care a lot about the US economy, and right now it\'s on the forefront. If I lose my job I get no $$$ and I can\'t buy any food and I won\'t live long enough to see the future.
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Well, other way you are screwed because the tax cut only benefits the wealthy and big buisness, and you sunburn easily. In about 50 years I bet SKIN CANCER will be the number #1 killer. More than aids and other diseases put toghether
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On CNN George W said all tax brackets are being cut and that the top and bottom brackets are going to be cut the most.
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Originally posted by Lavan
Do I look into the stuff? Hmm let me think, I\'m doing a minor in Environmental Science at University..hmm.... LOL Do you really believe that Natural Events dump more greenhouse gasses into the environment than cars and man made pollution? Maybe YOU should look into this stuff.
Yeah another person Studying the Environment at University :D.
i have been doing it at my Universiity for 3 years Now, great to see there is some one else with the same background as me.
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Originally posted by Animal Mother
Well, other way you are screwed because the tax cut only benefits the wealthy and big buisness, and you sunburn easily. In about 50 years I bet SKIN CANCER will be the number #1 killer. More than aids and other diseases put toghether
If global warming and fossil fuel usage continues as it is skin cancer will be the least of your worries. I\'ve read several pol sci/enviro studies that point towards major political and economic instability in the next few decades due to fossil fuels running out, the destruction of global agriculture, and the general mis-management of the commons. Everything is connected, Rob get\'s his tax break now but in 15 years when New Orleans is under several feet of water the US taxpayers will be footing the bill (and that\'s just one problem).
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ooseven,
Indeed - great to see another environmental science student who plays VIDEOGAMES! :) I\'m doing a specialist in Cell & Molecular Biology (and also trying to get into med school), but I love environmental science.
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Originally posted by Lavan
If global warming and fossil fuel usage continues as it is skin cancer will be the least of your worries. I\'ve read several pol sci/enviro studies that point towards major political and economic instability in the next few decades due to fossil fuels running out, the destruction of global agriculture, and the general mis-management of the commons. Everything is connected, Rob get\'s his tax break now but in 15 years when New Orleans is under several feet of water the US taxpayers will be footing the bill (and that\'s just one problem).
there is also the problem with carciongenic materials that are released with fossil fuels, they are the Benzene ring compounds, also there is the problem with most of the processes involved with Crude oil extraction.
Sonic Booms which are used by the oil industry to detect oil, can harm marine animals, and if that was not bad enough the there is always the risk of a tanker accident when after they drill the oil.
#anyway thats enough Doom i am off to forget about work and get a DVD and Game from my Local Video Rental Shop.#
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i am dealing with contaminated land and pollutants in water supply, like Chromium 6 levels in drinking and bathing water.
anyway real need to go as the Video shop closes soon
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cya later mate :D.
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The earth is not my mother.
Fill a glass with ice and water, to the rim.
When the ice is done melting the water level is lower. This is because water, unlike most, actually expands when frozen.
So, if the polar ice caps do melt, wouldn\'t than mean the ocean levels would actually get lower, just like in the glass of ice water?
Hmmmm.....
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I\'m sure GWB is a lovely president. After all, he wants to cut taxes!
:rolleyes:
Well, I\'ll leave it here. I could say a LOT of not so nice things about GWB and the people who voted for him. Or the United States in general for that sake. But I won\'t, so let\'s just leave it here. I have my opinion, you have yours.
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Originally posted by CygnusXI
The earth is not my mother.
Fill a glass with ice and water, to the rim.
When the ice is done melting the water level is lower. This is because water, unlike most, actually expands when frozen.
So, if the polar ice caps do melt, wouldn\'t than mean the ocean levels would actually get lower, just like in the glass of ice water?
Hmmmm.....
LOL Quite the scientist, why don\'t you actually TRY the experiment you outlined and then tell us what happens to the level of the water. You actually outlined one common misconception about rising sea levels, but then you made the wrong prediction.
Ever heard of the Archimedes\' Principle? It states that a body immersed in a fluid is buoyed up by a force equal to the weight of the displaced fluid - in English = the level of the water in the glass of water + ice will STAY THE SAME when the ice melts because the mass of the ice has increased the level of the water.
But wait, now you\'ll say that when the polar ice-caps melt the level of the water will stay the same right?
But there\'s one problem - the polar ice caps are not ice cubes floating on the ocean, they are on solid rock and more than 90% of their mass is above sea level. So when they melt the water will trickle down into the sea, thereby increasing sea levels.
Hmmmmm.....
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Well all this pollution/environment-saving/ozone-protecting talk is nice but I think we\'ve destroyed the original meaning of this thread.
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Its not the Warsaw pact.
The Warsaw pact is the Treaty that Russia Signed with all of its puppet goverments, in response to NATO.
Nato is the agreement we have with Britian, France,..Etc...
Also NATO, is a pact in response to any threat from RUSSIA, not China.
If we were to go to war with China, Britian would probably help us, but I highly doubt that France would help us.
The next war we get into, we are going to have not nearly as many allies as we think. Most countries are pissed off by our Bullying Mentatlity, and want us to fall flat on our face.
Russia IS NOT the most powerful next to us anymore, they were in the 70\'s and 80\'s, but not anymore.
They cant even win a war against a guerrilla army in the country of Cheznyia. Russia has a standing army of about 20,000 people AT THE MOST. China IS the strongest nation next to us now. They DO have nuclear capability, and the amount of warheads isnt really important. You guys do realize that America alone has enough warheads to destroy the world FIVE times over.
If china has only 1/5th the amount of warheads we do, they could destroy the whole world ONCE, and I think that is enough, dont you?
As, for GWB he is an Idiot, and hes going to be the worst president since Gerald Ford. He is already making huge mistakes by INCREASING americas dependence on oil, when the supply is going to run out in 50 years, just to fill his own pockets with money considering he and his family own oil companies. He should be funding programs to supplement oil with renewable resources like wind, sun, and hydro.
Did you know one of the most powerful reactors in the United states is such a reactor. Its hydro.
Why is he giving the Upper class a larger tax cut then the middle class.
Does he believe trickle down econmics worked?
If so, hes one of the only people who does.
Oh yeah, other than all those other rich people who got to keep even more moeny than they already needed.
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World War III? That will never happen. Do you know what World War III will be like? There will not be any soldiers, jet figthers, ships, tanks or anything like that involved. iT will nuclear war.
Ok even if there were soldiers and what not involved in the start, the losing country will eventually say "hey forget this we\'re losing , Launch the nukes and take the fudgers out". In retaliation we\'ll fire our nukes and you\'ll have an all out nuclear war. We\'ll all be dead, and those who have taken shelter and survives will mutate into flesh eating zombies because of the radiation. :D
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George W is cutting the lowest and highest tax bracket by the same %. But why he did it is to help small business owners. They themselves are not rich b/c of operating expenses, and they have a hard time paying employees. Just ask my last boss whose small business lasted approximately 5 months.
The tax cut will help me. I\'m not rich but the company I work for sells $500,000-$1million dollar contracts of our software. Less taxes on big corporations means more have money for our product which means more jobs and money for my company\'s employees. Because of the current state of the economy, thousands of people have been laid off from Arkansas companies.
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Originally posted by Samwise
I\'m sure GWB is a lovely president. After all, he wants to cut taxes!
:rolleyes:
Well, I\'ll leave it here. I could say a LOT of not so nice things about GWB and the people who voted for him. Or the United States in general for that sake. But I won\'t, so let\'s just leave it here. I have my opinion, you have yours.
You know what? Frankly, I dont give a flying phuck how you feel about my country because your country is a joke. USA all the way baby. Phuck denmark:rolleyes:. I could see if you were from a cool country like the UK or Australia; but you are from the pussy capital of the world(next to sweden that is).
BTW, I could care less what you or anyone has to say about how arogant we yanks are because I would not want to live anywhere but here.
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At least hes not from Poland.
They were out of WWII in like 30 days.
Thats just pathetic.
Also, another perspective is always good.
They inform you of things that you wouldnt normally see.
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Originally posted by Gohan
You know what? Frankly, I dont give a flying phuck how you feel about my country because your country is a joke. USA all the way baby. Phuck denmark:rolleyes:. I could see if you were from a cool country like the UK or Australia; but you are from the pussy capital of the world(next to sweden that is).
BTW, I could care less what you or anyone has to say about how arogant we yanks are because I would not want to live anywhere but here.
Lol, I\'m glad to see you know so much about Denmark. :laughing:
But since I don\'t care what you have to say either it doesn\'t really matter.
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Originally posted by Samwise
Lol, I\'m glad to see you know so much about Denmark. :laughing:
But since I don\'t care what you have to say either it doesn\'t really matter.
Shhhhhhhh Sam don\'t tell the Americans where Denmark is on the map, or you will have USAF spy planes flying about your HOUSE !
To GWB
Yeah thats right you can find Denmank easy on the map, thats the country next to IRAQ.
oh and you will knowthe IRAQI capital it\'s called Europe !
:laughing:
LMAO the American leader is such a Dum@ss
:laughing:
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Eh?
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Originally posted by Weltall
Eh?
Don\'t worry it\'s Just George W Bush, we H8 him soo much.
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Originally posted by Gohan
oh well. When you are on top everyone wants to take shots at you. It is only natural for foreigners to know everything about my country\'s leader:rolleyes:.
Haw can you tell me that any moron can be president and you are from another country? I don\'t know a damn thing about your country and I don\'t care to know. I just know that a personal attack on my country and its leader is a personal attack on everyone that has any pride. Its is like I can make fun of my little brother but if you do I will probably fight you.
USA
Land of the Free; Home of the Brave
Correction
SCOTLAND
Land of the Free; Home of the Brave !
Fact GWB ripped up the Kyoto treaty dooming the Earth to an Environmental Hell
GWB TAX freezes will have to be covered in some othere way.
GEW stance on China is wrong, and as a matter of fact WTF was a spy plane doing over there ibn the First place ?
GBW has started a series of policyes that is starting to Distance the USA from the Rest of the world , This from a man who said that he will not interfear with the rest of the world.
A couple of Good Reasons why GWB should be held for war crimes !
1)GWB ordered the unprovoked and inhuman attack on targets in Iraq, while at the same time keeping inplace trade restictions that is onlt strenghing Saddams grip on power and killing the IRAQI civilians.
2)GWB has maintained the Use of DU or Depleted Uranium Weapons, which not only kill the enemy but our soilders and Cvilians, which could list it as a illegal weapon !
There are more reasons for hating him but there are too many to list here !
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ooseven, everything you just said is opinion.
What the Hell is going on here?
Calm down damnit! You all sound like a bunch of damn N-players!!
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
ooseven, everything you just said is opinion.
What the Hell is going on here?
Calm down damnit! You all sound like a bunch of damn N-players!!
sorry i was getting a bit carried away there :shy:
Ah Screw it as long as GWB dose not Declare war on SCOTLAND , then he will have me to DEAL WITH
muhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhaha
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Ok, I think this topic has went far enough. Too bad, it\'s actually a very interesting topic. Let\'s just conclude that people have different opinions and see things from different perspectives.