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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Kituka on April 11, 2001, 03:31:25 AM
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http://www.coremagazine.com/movies/xevo.mpg
Now those are the type of graphics that may eradicate the PS2......
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All real-time too!!!
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*yawn*
graphics = fluff
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Why is it that before we saw Xbox\'s graphics superiority, the PS2 faithful always debated with the DC faithful about how better graphically the PS2 was (and is) than the DC, and how important graphics were. Now, graphics=fluff. Double standards, eh mate?
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Originally posted by Kituka
Why is it that before we saw Xbox\'s graphics superiority, the PS2 faithful always debated with the DC faithful about how better graphically the PS2 was (and is) than the DC, and how important graphics were. Now, graphics=fluff. Double standards, eh mate?
No i think he was just saying that that link is just EYE CANDY with no Gamplay what so ever.
I am like MM and never impressed by JUST EYE CANDY ALONE !
Sorry but i don\'t even see anything mind blowing with the movie what so ever.
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I just don\'t agree at all! Yeah there\'s no gameplay but thats not what were talking about here.
IMHO those graphics beat anything shown on the PS2 thus far.... yes even FFX. While FFX is very impressive the detail that is in that thing is above beyond anything I\'ve ever seen on the PS2.
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That is good, however it doesn\'t blow me away. If you look, there\'s little background, and little action. Go watch the FFX movies from the same. Those look almost (yeah, almost, I admit it) as good, but they have 5 chars on the screen, complicated backdrops, and summoning/fighting/spells going all over the place.
I wish we could all just wait for the XBOX to actually come out, before we debate which games/systems are better. After all, we don\'t know what the XBOX will end up with. Could be better than we ever dreamed, or worse than everyone expects.
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I was not impressed by that at all.
And please post your Xbox chit elsewere Kituka, where people give a damn ;)
All right Ill get back to GT3 demo now :)
Its just sooo amazing!
My mom said, "WOW, it looks so real!"
/FAST
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Originally posted by fastson
I was not impressed by that at all.
/FAST
*YAWN* Doesn\'t surprise me at all...after all it\'s not running on PS2 hardware is it? You\'re one of the biggest PS2 fanboys I\'ve ever seen. Xbox could display Toy Story in real-time with 1 million light-sources and you would chime in the old familiar line, "I was not impressed by that at all."
I wonder what your response would be if this was a PS2 demo? The facts are that the demo wasn\'t used to show the polygon pushing power of the GeForce3/Xbox, but was an "effects-specific" demonstration that showed what effects the Xbox could do. That being said, I think the demo looked awesome.
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Hey dude MM said the same thing about the GT3 replay footage.
And you are one hell of an XBOX fanboy if you beleive XBOX is THAT powerfull.
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It is a great demo but it is only a tech demo and a PC one at that.
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I think the demo looked awesome.
Thats cuz your a Xboy!
You would thing Tetris LOOKED AWESOME if it was on Xbox!
Pfff!
/FAST
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DirectXbox: Why do you waste your time here anyways?
Trying to convince people Xbox is a god?
BAH!
By the time you get a Xbox till be playing MGS2, GT3, Getaway, FFX, Devil May Cry, Extermination, Silent Hill2 ect.!
Good luck getting games dude!
/FAST
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Umm,
one detailed model (alone) surrounded by nothing is impressive? *yawn* Fill the screen with those and some enviroment running @ 60fps and then I\'ll be impressed. Are you people that easily amused? I\'ve seen stuff on x-box that has impressed me, but this \'tech demo\' sure as hell didn\'t.
- dm
- what\'s in the f\'cking box?
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Hey dude MM said the same thing about the GT3 replay footage.
And you are one hell of an XBOX fanboy if you beleive XBOX is THAT powerfull.
Well, then I\'m a BIG XBOX FANBOY. Number one, that was a GeForce3 demo. Number two, Xbox is more powerful than the GeForce3. Number three, and most importantly, WHY IN THE HELL WOULD MICROSOFT SHOW THE INEVITABLE DEMO DURING AN XBOX DEMONSTRATION IF XBOX COULDN\'T DO THAT LEVEL OF GRAPHICS? What are you people blind? I stated that this was a TECHNOLOGY DEMO. The effects you saw in that demo are effects possible with the XGPU. You guys act like it\'s impossible for a system finished in 2001 to be better than a system finished in 1999! Get over it! The PS2 chipset is two years older than the Xbox chipset (XGPU and MCPX)! Is it so hard to believe that Xbox is better in all areas than the PS2? I can\'t believe that you fanboys are so blind that you don\'t think that a two year old chipset can be out done by one coming out this year! Big deal! Get over it! Geez, fanboys make my head hurt.
Just because I say that the TECH DEMO looked impressive, doesn\'t mean I\'m a fanboy...it just means I\'m honest.
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It doesnt look that good to me.
I agree with datamage!
I mean one character? WOW, jesus! ;)
PS2 could (its already doing that) do that, infact FF10 and MGS2 looks better (IMO)!
/FAST
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Originally posted by fastson
DirectXbox: Why do you waste your time here anyways?
Trying to convince people Xbox is a god?
BAH!
By the time you get a Xbox till be playing MGS2, GT3, Getaway, FFX, Devil May Cry, Extermination, Silent Hill2 ect.!
Good luck getting games dude!
/FAST
You are a big ass fanboy. How was I "trying to convince people Xbox is god"? Where did I insinuate such a thing? Don\'t get mad because I exposed your fanboyishness! Admit it, you are a PS2 Whore and a Sony loyalist. I\'m a multi-console gamer excited about Xbox. I talk about all systems. Even as a PS2 owner I have to admit that the Dreamcast is better in terms of quality. This shows that power doesn\'t mean sh!t to me. It\'s the games. As of now, my NES is giving me more fun than my PS2! PC ports and sequels just don\'t cut it. I have an N64, DC, PSX, PS2, Saturn, Genesis, SNES, NES, PC and I\'m excited about the Xbox. Yeah, by the time I get Xbox I\'ll be playing all those games you listed too, because unlike you, I\'m an unbiased TRUE gamer. I don\'t play systems, dude, I play games.
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You don\'t sound unbiased to me. You already think that a console that is a ways off is way better than any other game system. That=BIAS
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again, graphics = fluff
oh, and xbox = vaporware untill i see some impressive "in game" demos
*yawn*
/me goes back to phantasy star online
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yo, direct x box, what games will you hope to be playing on the x box that arent pc ports, and arnt console ports that are better than ps2 games at the same time?
if you are a gamer that plays for the games, what does x box have to show for its self that will make itsself better than ps2\'s lineup?
i know youve got a ps2, so you can get these great games coming out, but why buy an x box, when you can buy halo for computer?
Munch\'s odysee, mabye, but i never liked that type of game.
my point is why? i havent heard many great games coming out for x box that would make me interested in buying it.
enlighten me on the this. please.:D:D:D
or mabye we\'ll have to wait for e3... like always. :D
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Thats some cool looking fluff
I hope they can jam those kinda graphics into some 60FPS gameplay cause I\'m in
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Man, I havent seen this kinda flaming in a while.
Leave DirectXbox alone.
He even said it was an Impressive TECH DEMO.
So, just chill out, and stop being so superior.
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The graphics in this tech demo are impressive. While the surroundings aren\'t very detailed, the draw distance is amazing (I can\'t remember the correct term for it :)). The detail of the creature (the shadows! WOW!) are also great.
Then again, I also think that if they had like 20 of these guys all doing different things it would be a lot more impressive. I really doubt they could get those kinds of graphics into a game if there was more than just one creature and a feature-less terrain.
I still think the most impressive tech demo we have seen is the DOA3 tech demo.
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Uh? That is the same exact demo used for the GeForce3 video card, when it was unvieled by Ndivia for the Apple...
I am not impressed.
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Well first of all. Demos like this are the same as games, they are just more limited in functionality.
What I mean by functionality I mean as an "unfinished game".
The graphics look pretty awesome. The demo is a limited demo of an actual game.
The game when released, should be able to easily outshine anything on the PS2 even in the next generation of games.
It was made on a PC and porting only took two hours. This is pretty good news.
Most demos are just unfinished games.
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Originally posted by Dwarrior
Well first of all. Demos like this are the same as games, they are just more limited in functionality.
What I mean by functionality I mean as an "unfinished game".
The graphics look pretty awesome. The demo is a limited demo of an actual game.
The game when released, should be able to easily outshine anything on the PS2 even in the next generation of games.
It was made on a PC and porting only took two hours. This is pretty good news.
Most demos are just unfinished games.
Show me a Game with this kind of Graphics with 10 characters,Good physics and AI,precise collision-system,very detailed environments + complex polygonal structure,and all that running very fast at 60 frames per sec. and I\'ll be impressed !
This Demo doesn\'t impress me!
The game when released, should be able to easily outshine anything on the PS2 even in the next generation of games...
...so you have seen the next generation of PS2 Games and this imaginary X-Box Game ?
you have seen FFXII? Tell me...I\'m curious :D
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yeah, so some creature grew wings. WHOOP DEE DO!
wheres the volumetric fog? wheres the particle effects?
wheres the blah, blah, blah?
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Originally posted by Dwarrior
Well first of all. Demos like this are the same as games, they are just more limited in functionality.
What I mean by functionality I mean as an "unfinished game".
The graphics look pretty awesome. The demo is a limited demo of an actual game.
The game when released, should be able to easily outshine anything on the PS2 even in the next generation of games.
It was made on a PC and porting only took two hours. This is pretty good news.
Most demos are just unfinished games.
So......I wonder why you were bashing PS2 because you couldnt find a game looking as good as the FF tech demo , the FF old man tech demo or the other demos.
Why werent you supporting PS2 just from its superb looking tech demos then???ha?Tell me.You silly fanboy.
But XBOX is cool.It has a cool looking tech demo with only one character.OOOOOUUUUUUUU!!!!!XBOX!!!!GIVE ME ONE NOWWW!!!!!WHAT A F...ING TECH DEMO!!!!!XBOX GONNA RULE!!!!!GIMMIE SOME MORE TECH DEMOS!!!!!!OUUU NICE!!!!GIMMIE MY DOSE!!!!
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DirectXbox: AH, very mature calling me a whore! HAHAHA!!
Just look at your name, you sound like a fanboy to me!
Go home to yo big mama!
/FAST
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Yeah your username Direct Xbox shows that you are in here only to "promote" XBOX .Not as a gamer.
You sometimes sound like a hypocrite too.
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hmm..
The Tech "demo" was impressive in terms of skinning tech and per_pixel FX-rendering.
Skinning apparently used quite heavily vertex-shaders, and movement was quite nice. there was some object "wings and muscles" going into other objects, but it is not possible to avoid those things with power of ps2 or x-box.. at least if you don\'t want to sacrifice the performance Big time.
what comes to the most apparent advantages of X-box over ps2 the per-pixel fx.. this demo had some fx used quite nicely.
Yes there were bump_mapping and other "normal" stuff, but what impressed was a use of specular strenght/color map which gave the creature nice depth. this is easily seen in a wings of the creature.
"normaly color of specular light is color of the light independent from the color of material" the self-shadowing was nice exept the fact that only "bone" areas of wings casted shadows.
Things like view distance and polygon count in this kind of presentation is quite irrelevant. For one can have incredible enviroment IF camera stays in about one spot/ or line. This becouse enviroment can be made to use optimal amount of polygons for current location from camera in offline.
Well.. Lets hope Inevitable Entertainment can make something that uses this tech with more than one creature and with idea behind the game... :)
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Originally posted by mm
again, graphics = fluff
oh, and xbox = vaporware untill i see some impressive "in game" demos
*yawn*
/me goes back to phantasy star online
so true... so true
/me goes back to MGS2 :)
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Ugh.
Those graphics aren\'t that great at all. Only one character?Pppfffttt. Show me ten to fifteen of those things flying around, then I\'ll be impressed. But now , like mm said, its just fluff.
Originally posted by ProfessorX
I just don\'t agree at all! Yeah there\'s no gameplay but thats not what were talking about here.
IMHO those graphics beat anything shown on the PS2 thus far.... yes even FFX. While FFX is very impressive the detail that is in that thing is above beyond anything I\'ve ever seen on the PS2.
Moron.
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Well first of all. Demos like this are the same as games, they are just more limited in functionality.
:laughing:
Surely you have no idea what you\'re talking about. I can show you about 20 \'demos\' for my GeForce 2 and no game looks anything near those demos. Demos are usually used to demonstrate a certain aspect of the card, that it can technically do, doesn\'t mean you\'ll see all those nifty things in a real game.
- dm
- what\'s in the f\'cking box?
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Originally posted by datamage
:laughing:
Surely you have no idea what you\'re talking about. I can show you about 20 \'demos\' for my GeForce 2 and no game looks anything near those demos. Demos are usually used to demonstrate a certain aspect of the card, that it can technically do, doesn\'t mean you\'ll see all those nifty things in a real game.
- dm
- what\'s in the f\'cking box?
I agree ususally they cant, but sinse its on incomplete dev kits, the final kit might...
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One beast sprouting wings and playing with a green ball of poop is the best graphics ever? Come on... can someone at least show me something in motion that\'s actually being played before we consider them the best graphics ever? By all standards, when I compare this to the FF8 tech demo of the ball room dance sequence, at least the ballroom scene had two people in it. Oh well, who gives a flying f*ck about a goddamn tech demo anyways? Monsters flying or sprouting wings doesn\'t make me wanna pick up an XBox, it\'s the games we get to play that does. So far, all we have scene is more "graphics will look like this... when it\'s done..." blah blah blah, horsesh*t. Just stop hyping the ****ing thing and show us some goddamn real games we all want to play.
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Originally posted by Ryu
One beast sprouting wings and playing with a green ball of poop is the best graphics ever? Come on... can someone at least show me something in motion that\'s actually being played before we consider them the best graphics ever? By all standards, when I compare this to the FF8 tech demo of the ball room dance sequence, at least the ballroom scene had two people in it. Oh well, who gives a flying f*ck about a goddamn tech demo anyways? Monsters flying or sprouting wings doesn\'t make me wanna pick up an XBox, it\'s the games we get to play that does. So far, all we have scene is more "graphics will look like this... when it\'s done..." blah blah blah, horsesh*t. Just stop hyping the ****ing thing and show us some goddamn real games we all want to play.
I agree, sort of. Munch, Malice, Halo, DoA3 (I think) were shown with actual gameplay.
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Ryu is right:Graphics mean nothing.I bought Ehrgeiz just from it looks and I got bored easily.Bouncer is another game with superb graphics.But people prefe playing Smugglers Run or Driver or Tekken3 more than these 2 even if they dont look as good.
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Originally posted by EThugg
I agree, sort of. Munch, Malice, Halo, DoA3 (I think) were shown with actual gameplay.
So?4 games only?
Also we havent played them either so we still dont know if they have good gameplay.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
So?4 games only?
Also we havent played them either so we still dont know if they have good gameplay.
No one\'s played any GC games either! What\'s your damn point?
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Originally posted by EThugg
No one\'s played any GC games either! What\'s your damn point?
Whats YOUR point?I didnt mention GC have I?
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Well.. on the whole \'tech demo\' thing.. it\'s not impossible that in the end the x-box won\'t do those type of graphics. I\'m just sick of people going crazy over just that, demos. If it means anything, the tech demos Sony showed are possible on the PS2.. The FF8 ballroom looked great, IMO, FFX looks better. The Namco girl,. try the intro to RRV. Might not be exactly but they look close. Regardless, one shouldn\'t jump for tech demos.
- dm
- what\'s in the f\'cking box?
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Whats YOUR point?I didnt mention GC have I?
Game journalists HAVE played XB games. And your (again) dissing XB for something, but giving another system a pass.
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Originally posted by EThugg
Game journalists HAVE played XB games. And your (again) dissing XB for something, but giving another system a pass.
Oh its not fair.Poor little XBOX.GC got away.
This thread is about XBOX.
Ok then.
GC games havent been tested.Xbox games have.So?
Whats the difference?
Should I have started talking about GC out of nowhere im my post??Ofcourse I didnt say a thing about GC.I couldnt start talking about GC out of nowhere.
(Also send me a url with the journalists impressions.)
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\'So?4 games only?
Also we havent played them either so we still dont know if they have good gameplay.\'
You were dissing XB for only having 4 playable demos. Then you MUST diss GC for having none. And go to IGN, DR etc, they have impressions Im sure.
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AS IS SAID BEFORE I COULDNT JUST MENTION GC OUT OF NOWHERE!!!IF YOU WANT ME TO DISS GC THEN YOU ARE AN XBOX FANBOY!!!
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Originally posted by Unicron!
AS IS SAID BEFORE I COULDNT JUST MENTION GC OUT OF NOWHERE!!!IF YOU WANT ME TO DISS GC THEN YOU ARE AN XBOX FANBOY!!!
I DONT WANT YOU TO DISS GC!!! I WANT YOU TO STOP DISSING XB AND BEING UNFAIR!!!! :D
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Jesus Christ.
You two are yelling at each other like a couple of ten year olds arguing over which Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle is the best.
Let it die.
P.S. Obviously, Donatello was the best TMNT.
No arguement can withstand my FACTS. :)
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Originally posted by Faithdies
Jesus Christ.
You two are yelling at each other like a couple of ten year olds arguing over which Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle is the best.
Let it die.
P.S. Obviously, Donatello was the best TMNT.
No arguement can withstand my FACTS. :)
MICHAELANGELO! (sp?)
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Dude.
Dont make me kick your ass.
Its Donatello.
And its that way cause I said so.
Im a Donatello Fanboy!
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Everybody loved Donatello:
1) Best name.
2) Best weapon (6 foot bo).
3) Purple (orange???).
4) Smartest (all the gadgets he used to make).
I\'m very sorry, but it\'s true.
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Originally posted by FatalXception
Everybody loved Donatello:
1) Best name.
2) Best weapon (6 foot bo).
3) Purple (orange???).
4) Smartest (all the gadgets he used to make).
I\'m very sorry, but it\'s true.
I like Mike cause he goofed off and had fun, like I would. Orange goes with green too. (yes, so does purple, but so does orange). Plus nunchucks are cooler than a stick...
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I\'m amazed some of you are in such a "row" over a techinal demo. Any company can pull techincal graphical tech demo\'s out of their a$$. Show me a *confirmed* game that looks like this, in real-time with all the gameplay functions going, then I\'ll be impressed. Until then, all it is a techinal demo that is really pointless.
Not to mention it is alot easier to tout graphical feats then it is to mention some kick ass somewhat original gameplay idea.
When that happens, I\'ll pay attenion.
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LMAO !
Microsoft must be pissing themselfs :laughing:.
All this HYPE over a Tech Demo , yes a TECH demo and NOT A GAME :rpissed:.
Who gives a Flighing F***, about what it can do on a STATIC demo ?
This is a Classic exampke of FANBOYS Placing more on
GRAPHICS than GAMEPLAY !
No matter who much eye canddy you throw at the player, it\'s GAMEPLAY that makes people come back for more NOT Graphics !.
i think this thread did serve some use as we know know who is a MS or PS2 Fanboy and wHo isn\'t :rpissed:.
OOSEVEN Yawns and goes back to play some more Zone of Enders :D.
Someone wake me up when MS have something Concrete and INTRESTING TO show me !
ok ;).
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Originally posted by Faithdies
Dude.
Dont make me kick your ass.
Its Donatello.
And its that way cause I said so.
Im a Donatello Fanboy!
HEY I LIKE MICHAELANGELO TOO!!!!!HEY ETHUGG!!!!
LETS KICK HIS ASS:D!!!!
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Yeah your username Direct Xbox shows that you are in here only to "promote" XBOX .Not as a gamer.
You sometimes sound like a hypocrite too.
What an ass. Search any of my posts and then find where I was promoting Xbox. Until you can do that, you\'re just full of sh*t.
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Originally posted by DirectXbox
What an ass. Search any of my posts and then find where I was promoting Xbox. Until you can do that, you\'re just full of sh*t.
ohhhhhhh pa-lease :rolleyes:
you might not come directly out and say it, but we all know
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Originally posted by Unicron!
HEY I LIKE MICHAELANGELO TOO!!!!!HEY ETHUGG!!!!
LETS KICK HIS ASS:D!!!!
YES, LETS!!!!
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Originally posted by ooseven
LMAO !
Microsoft must be pissing themselfs :laughing:.
All this HYPE over a Tech Demo , yes a TECH demo and NOT A GAME :rpissed:.
Who gives a Flighing F***, about what it can do on a STATIC demo ?
This is a Classic exampke of FANBOYS Placing more on
GRAPHICS than GAMEPLAY !
No matter who much eye canddy you throw at the player, it\'s GAMEPLAY that makes people come back for more NOT Graphics !.
i think this thread did serve some use as we know know who is a MS or PS2 Fanboy and wHo isn\'t :rpissed:.
OOSEVEN Yawns and goes back to play some more Zone of Enders :D.
Someone wake me up when MS have something Concrete and INTRESTING TO show me !
ok ;).
I think both sides looked pretty bad on this one. It is a PC tech demo folks. They ported it at the GDC for fun. Everyone, just take a deep breath and let it go. :)
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I am not all that impressed because it just what it is. A tech demo. It is so funny how ps2 fanboys are quick to throw out oh look at mgs2 and gt3 omg there are tons of games on ps2 and they only like throwing out 2. You know why because the rest are not all that impressive.
The same standards I put on xbox I do the same for ps2. I could name countless ps2 games that are below or par with dc games. And when xbox comes out I will do that same too it, but for now I will just continue to play madden and onimusha til some better games come out.(or xbox launches)
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You cant blame a console because it has some ****y games.There are games on DC and PS2 that are worse even than some PSX1 games.(etc:GODZILLA and that game from 989 studios I cant remember its name)
Seeing superb full games from some developers and some crap games from others we blame lazy developers.
Even with Bouncer we(me including now) are disapointed.The first rolling demos of the game featured a lot more.And we got what?A limited game???All that time they worked on what?FMVs?
Even on XBOX and GC we might see crap games If some stupid developers are lazy.Except if its money the problem then its not their fault.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
You cant blame a console because it has some ****y games.There are games on DC and PS2 that are worse even than some PSX1 games.(etc:GODZILLA and that game from 989 studios I cant remember its name)
Seeing superb full games from some developers and some crap games from others we blame lazy developers.
Even with Bouncer we(me including now) are disapointed.The first rolling demos of the game featured a lot more.And we got what?A limited game???All that time they worked on what?FMVs?
Even on XBOX and GC we might see crap games If some stupid developers are lazy.Except if its money the problem then its not their fault.
I agree with you, but you find lots of ps2 fanboys throwing out two titles as too say ps2 is better than gcn and xbox because of these two games when ps2 has lots crappy games. I don\'t know about most but it takes more than a handful of good games to make a excellent console. And yes what I am saying speaks for all 4 consoles.
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Just another brick in the wall.
When X-box does some amazing let me know.
Now Gamecube on the other hand.. will have a much better turn out than X-box.
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Originally posted by XBOX
I agree with you, but you find lots of ps2 fanboys throwing out two titles as too say ps2 is better than gcn and xbox because of these two games when ps2 has lots crappy games. I don\'t know about most but it takes more than a handful of good games to make a excellent console. And yes what I am saying speaks for all 4 consoles.
Usually these are the games that show its true capabilities(GT3,MGS2 etc).Its wrong to underestimate a console when there are developers that prove its a better console.
PS2\'s quality library is increasing now.
But as you said its not right to think PS2 is the best because it has only a handfull of "perfect" games(no game is perfect thats why I used "...").
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Just another brick in the wall.
When X-box does some amazing let me know.
Now Gamecube on the other hand.. will have a much better turn out than X-box.
:) Why do people cry so much about nothing being awesome for the PS2, answer is that there isn\'t anything.
The PS2 is a lot like the PC, the most popular platform, but with tons of crap nobody wants to play.
Hey, you can keep your deer hunter and barbie with more polygons on the Playstation. I don\'t want that crap on real game machines.
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Originally posted by Dwarrior
:) Why do people cry so much about nothing being awesome for the PS2, answer is that there isn\'t anything.
...I\'m playing SSX,ATV Off Road Fury,ZOE,Winning Eleven 5,MGS2 Demo,TTT,Onimusha,Quake 3 Rev,Time Splitters,StarWars Starfighter,Moto GP and by the first days of May I\'ll play GT3 :D,waiting for Devil May Cry,Soul Revear 2,FFX,Silent Hill 2,MGS2,The Getaway,Twisted Metal Black,Tekken 4,Virtua Fighter 4,Soul Calibur 2,AC4,The New Moto GP,Wipeout Fusion,Naughty Dog\'s Game,Insomniacs\'s Game,The Next Lara,The Lost,Maximo,Codemaster\'s racing games,and several others and there\'s a chance that I\'ll play all these games before you put your hands on the X-Box :D...and when you\'ll put your hands on Halo and the X-Box,I\'ll have finished Halo on my PC 10 Times and I\'ll be waiting for another 2 or 3 dozens of Great Games for the PS2 :D :D
...as you can see...the only one who should cry is DocWiz :D
The PS2 is a lot like the PC, the most popular platform, but with tons of crap nobody wants to play.
...yes...only 20 millions of people by the end of this fiscal year :rolleyes: thanks to the Great exclusive titles available from now on...
Docwiz? Look at your Tech-Demos without annoying us :D
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http://www.gorillax.com/
199 games confirmed need 1 more to get 200! Xbox is going to dominate!
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Originally posted by BizioEE
...I\'m playing SSX,ATV Off Road Fury,ZOE,Winning Eleven 5,MGS2 Demo,TTT,Onimusha,Quake 3 Rev,Time Splitters,StarWars Starfighter,Moto GP and by the first days of May I\'ll play GT3 :D,waiting for Devil May Cry,Soul Revear 2,FFX,Silent Hill 2,MGS2,The Getaway,Twisted Metal Black,Tekken 4,Virtua Fighter 4,Soul Calibur 2,AC4,The New Moto GP,Wipeout Fusion,Naughty Dog\'s Game,Insomniacs\'s Game,The Next Lara,The Lost,Maximo,Codemaster\'s racing games,and several others and there\'s a chance that I\'ll play all these games before you put your hands on the X-Box :D...and when you\'ll put your hands on Halo and the X-Box,I\'ll have finished Halo on my PC 10 Times and I\'ll be waiting for another 2 or 3 dozens of Great Games for the PS2 :D :D
...as you can see...the only one who should cry is DocWiz :D
...yes...only 20 millions of people by the end of this fiscal year :rolleyes: thanks to the Great exclusive titles available from now on...
Docwiz? Look at your Tech-Demos without annoying us :D
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20 million hahahah is that your final answer:D Did you forget that the last ps2 report only gave numbers of shiped units and not sold.
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20 million hahahah is that your final answer:D Did you forget that the last ps2 report only gave numbers of shiped units and not sold.
Shipped or not Shipped PS2 sales surpassed 6 million if I remember well...
The PS2 sells a lot.People still like it.
BTW I like how BizioEE answered to Docwizz oups Dwarrior I mean in the first part:D.