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PS2\'s Graphics Synthesizer Wins Award
Semiconductor Insights awards Sony\'s processor over the Pentium 4, AMD Athlon, and GeForce 2.
April 11, 2001
Semiconductor Insights announced today that it has awarded Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) with an INSIGHT Award for the Most Innovative Computing Semiconductor Product of the Year for the Sony Graphics Synthesizer from the PlayStation 2.
"System-on-a-Chip (SoC) design has been a buzzword in the semiconductor industry for the past 5 years. Sony has developed a chip that exemplifies the philosophy of SoC as it not only integrates many functions on-chip but also integrates different technologies," said Derek Nuhn, Chief Operating Officer of Semiconductor Insights. "The extreme performance of the resulting chip is phenomenal."
"This is the first year Semiconductor Insights has given out the INSIGHT Awards and we plan to make it an annual tradition," Nuhn said. "Semiconductor Insights performs competitive technical intelligence on devices in every technology area each year putting us in the unique position of analyzing the true technical merits of leading edge semiconductor products."
The Sony Graphics Synthesizer is used in the PlayStation 2 and can handle 20 times the simultaneous data of some PC graphics accelerators and can render 75 million polygons per second. The device is implemented in a sophisticated DRAM process with high performance logic in a single die.
"PC technology has generally led the advancement of process geometries in semiconductors," a senior analyst indicated. "Sony\'s Graphics Synthesizer has a logic core with embedded DRAM. The embedded DRAM uses sophisticated sense amplifiers that contain an SRAM latch and two read data buses. This combination of DRAM and SRAM is intended to improve the speed of the video memory for better drawing performance."
Semiconductor Insights\' analysts also discovered that although Sony\'s Graphics Synthesizer was likely implemented in a 0.18 micron process, transistor sizes were found to be as small as 0.1 microns. Sony uses a process approach that results in near-perfect alignment of the transistors and capacitor contacts. The Sony Graphics Synthesizer was chosen amongst other innovative products nominated by Semiconductor Insights\' analysts, including such devices as the Intel Pentium 4 Processor, the AMD Athlon Processor and the nVIDIA Geforce2 Graphics Processor. These runner-up devices also represent true innovations:
Intel Pentium 4 Processor -- This device is developed on Intel\'s 0.18 micron process and has transistor gates as small as 0.1 microns. Intel uses a "notched" gate to achieve the smaller transistors that also results in other benefits in the process. The version investigated by Semiconductor Insights runs at 1.5 GHz -- over twice as fast as the Pentium III examined in early 2000. Intel is using low-k dielectric in their higher speed processors to reduce capacitance between metal lines and allow for faster operation. Most other manufacturers currently use copper for high speed operation.
AMD Athlon Processor -- AMD is implementing their 1GHz and higher processors in both aluminum and copper probably to verify and test their copper process. Semiconductor Insights has analyzed the copper version of the Athlon. Like the Intel Pentium 4 Processor, AMD has transistor gates as small as 0.1 micron. NVIDIA Geforce2 Graphics Processor -- nVIDIA is a fabless company that uses TSMC as its foundry for manufacturing integrated circuits. Developed on a 0.18 micron process, the Geforce2 has more functionality that previous generations, including transform and lighting functions, leading to faster process speeds, dynamic per pixel shading and videoprocessing that, in conjunction with a receiver, allows for computers to view HDTV signals.
Semiconductor Insights congratulates Sony Computer Entertainment and their design team for demonstrating innovation and implementing a design that advances the development of semiconductor technology. Other Insight awards will be announced in the near future.
here is the site:
http://ps2.ign.com/news/33345.html
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Yahoo!!! I though the PS3 will have a AMD chip?
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lol they didn\'t compare it to the geforce 3.
I now why.this is a bunch of pr bs. good job sony pr.they are the best.
Its comparing for 2000. geforce 3 wasn\'t in 2000.
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perhaps cause its NOT released, AND have u seen the benchmarks? the GF3 is NOT much better than a GF2 at resolutions below 1280x960.
bah
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Originally posted by pstwo
Yahoo!!! I though the PS3 will have a AMD chip?
Are you kidding, why would SOny take a huge step backwards
AMD\'s are great for PC\'s not consoles
In fact and you should of heard this yourself, IBM, Toshiba , and SOny have pooled together $400 million to design a next gen CPU for multimedia/Breoadband applications and thats the chip that will be in PS3. It will be a hybrid of the EE with IBM technoligies mixed in and EE technologies improved
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Originally posted by mm
perhaps cause its NOT released, AND have u seen the benchmarks? the GF3 is NOT much better than a GF2 at resolutions below 1280x960.
bah
i was thinking along those same lines,i just saw some info on the card (GF3) this week,so much for innovation :)
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metal, why dont u have a pic bro?
send me a pm
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nm
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gr0an
u kill me jaggies, u really do
open that mouth a little more, yer entire foot hasnt entered yet
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Jaggies your an idiot.
Is the company that gave out this award in anyway related to sony?
If not, then what do they have to gain?
The oscars was just one big PR thing for Russel Crowe too.
Didnt you guys know that?
Jeez, idiots.
BTW: in what way was any of the other competitors inovative, jaggies?
They didnt really do anything nearly as different as sony.
What does Innovative mean again?
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Originally posted by mm
metal, why dont u have a pic bro?
send me a pm
it\'s kool,i don\'t really want a pic at this time,i\'ll wait a bit longer before i do
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dont want a pic even when offered?
i dont think mm understands that
but the choice is yers, i suppose
i dont think mm, even noticed i stole back my pic
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Clyde, mm\'s what we call a little "slow"
Don\'t tell him I said that though, he might get angry. You know how he gets when he\'s angry. No nanners for anyone, chimp or not.
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Technological gobbledygook at best. The PS2’s technological wonderments won’t assure that great games are produced for gamers to attain. That matter is left up to developers to undertake. With Sony’s first and second party developers that can be accurately described as shoddy, it goes without saying that the only thing that can save the PS2 from all out failure is 3rd party developer support. Now then, since Nintendo’s Gamecube and Microsoft’s X-Box are sealing up deals with 3rd party developers left and right, Sony’s saving grace will no longer be theirs alone. They will have to share their insurance policy to success with their competition, something that will ultimately lead Sony into their unforeseen demise. I have seen the future of videogames, and Sony is not in it. If my words prove to be incorrect, may I burn in the fiery furnaces of Lucifer’s hellish penal complex.
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Jaggies u still here.. I thought u would leave after the First time someone made u look like a complete idiot..
Ohh well... guess u like a good "foot in mouth" award once in awhile.
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Originally posted by Rasputin
Technological gobbledygook at best. The PS2’s technological wonderments won’t assure that great games are produced for gamers to attain. That matter is left up to developers to undertake. With Sony’s first and second party developers that can be accurately described as shoddy, it goes without saying that the only thing that can save the PS2 from all out failure is 3rd party developer support. Now then, since Nintendo’s Gamecube and Microsoft’s X-Box are sealing up deals with 3rd party developers left and right, Sony’s saving grace will no longer be theirs alone. They will have to share their insurance policy to success with their competition, something that will ultimately lead Sony into their unforeseen demise. I have seen the future of videogames, and Sony is not in it. If my words prove to be incorrect, may I burn in the fiery furnaces of Lucifer’s hellish penal complex.
You have seen the future of Videogames? :laughing:
Sony are still selling PSone,PS2 will have a huge success(more than PSX - my opinion) ! ...and Sony, IBM, Toshiba have pooled together $400 million to design a next gen CPU for multimedia/Breoadband applications and it\'s the monster chip that will be in PS3!
Little Man I\'m sorry for you but Sony will be "in the future" ...and stronger than ever :D
(If you can see no further than the end of your nose how can you see the Future? :D)
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Are you kidding, why would SOny take a huge step backwards
AMD\'s are great for PC\'s not consoles
In fact and you should of heard this yourself, IBM, Toshiba , and SOny have pooled together $400 million to design a next gen CPU for multimedia/Breoadband applications and thats the chip that will be in PS3. It will be a hybrid of the EE with IBM technoligies mixed in and EE technologies improved
Oh.... I just thought that AMD was one of the companys put together. :D
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Rasputin,
We know that games is what makes a system successful. That\'s not the point of this thread. It\'s about Sony\'s innovation and it got an award for it. That\'s all. Not one of us said anything about Sony being the best console system or anything like that.
It was an interesting topic, that\'s all. But you brought in a different topic altogether. Tell us something we don\'t know next time.
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Sony Haters just cant accept anything good that has to do with PS2.
Like in this thread were the GS got an award they started bashing PS2 and talk all the BS they want about the GS.Simply because GS is a PS2 chip.
And the thread only refers to the GS.But noooo.AMD,GForce and Pentium are PC chips.Similar to Xbox\'s.
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one small leap for sony, one Giant leap for gamers around the world that own a PS2 :)
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I think AMD may be involved in the EE2, not the next GS.
Just as Toshiba was involved in the EE, now Sony may be partnering with AMD to develop EE2. I may be mistaken, but I think I read that somewhere a few months back.
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Great job Sony!
:)
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lol they didn\'t compare it to the geforce 3.
I now why.this is a bunch of pr bs. good job sony pr.they are the best.
Its comparing for 2000. geforce 3 wasn\'t in 2000.
This, folks, is a complete example of what a moron would post. Applaud for yourself jaggies, you get my nomination for idiocy. Go spend $400-500 on a overrated GeForce 3.
Rasputin, wow, so you saw the future? You have that capability and you spend time here on this forum? We are truly blessed. What will the winning lottery numbers be for Miami this Saturday? C\'mon man, share the power. :rolleyes:
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- what\'s in the f\'cking box?
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Originally posted by Rasputin
Technological gobbledygook at best. The PS2’s technological wonderments won’t assure that great games are produced for gamers to attain. That matter is left up to developers to undertake. With Sony’s first and second party developers that can be accurately described as shoddy, it goes without saying that the only thing that can save the PS2 from all out failure is 3rd party developer support. Now then, since Nintendo’s Gamecube and Microsoft’s X-Box are sealing up deals with 3rd party developers left and right, Sony’s saving grace will no longer be theirs alone. They will have to share their insurance policy to success with their competition, something that will ultimately lead Sony into their unforeseen demise. I have seen the future of videogames, and Sony is not in it. If my words prove to be incorrect, may I burn in the fiery furnaces of Lucifer’s hellish penal complex.
I hope you realize how stupid this quote is Rasputin
SOny has a ton of 1st party games you haven\'t even seen yet.
ATV offroad fury is one that IMO is pretty damn sweet
GT3 is a masterpiece. ans will be here shortly
Dark Cloud and Extermination have bith receinve Famitsu silver, and both games are getting significant US and UK upgrades
The Getaway, Wipeout Fusion, and Dropship all look PHAT
Drakan, Naughty DOg offering, Insomniac Offering, and Verant Interactive offering have yet to be revealed, and SOny still has about dozen 1st party games that have yet to be shown off.
and aboutr your very very very naive 3rd party comment, sure GC and Xbox are signing 3rd parties, that doesn\'t mean 3rd parties are not developing PS2 projects, in fact the majority of 3rd parties are developing a ratio of 3:1 PS2 projects to XBox or GC projects
You really need to get a clue son
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Originally posted by CygnusXI
I think AMD may be involved in the EE2, not the next GS.
Just as Toshiba was involved in the EE, now Sony may be partnering with AMD to develop EE2. I may be mistaken, but I think I read that somewhere a few months back.
That\'s why I thought the same too. :D
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Originally posted by CygnusXI
I think AMD may be involved in the EE2, not the next GS.
Just as Toshiba was involved in the EE, now Sony may be partnering with AMD to develop EE2. I may be mistaken, but I think I read that somewhere a few months back.
That\'s why I thought the same too. :D
NO it won\'t
there was only 1 rumored report of AMD working with SOny and not a single official press release on this
With IBM, Toshiba and SOny already officially announcing a joint CPU project its obvious the AMD thing is Bull****
Trust me AMD is not doing a thing with Sony,
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Heh hey I posted the first thread about the possible Sony AMD relationship.
Anyway\'s I myself thought it would have been cool as hell to have AMD doing the chips.Not just taking a standard Tbird or Palomino or something,but a completly new chip designed by AMD.
But that rumor got forgotten (as far as I new,I thought most of you guys had forgotten)
Anyway I was happy when I heard about the deal between Sony,IBM and Toshiba,since IBM is my favourite CPU designer along with AMD (I lost respect for Motorola after they didn\'t work on the G4 for 18 months).
But did only the GS get awarded,not the EE???
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Even though I did not understand much of it, it is kinda wierd that a video gaming system actually gets an award.
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Originally posted by Rasputin
Technological gobbledygook at best. The PS2’s technological wonderments won’t assure that great games are produced for gamers to attain. That matter is left up to developers to undertake. With Sony’s first and second party developers that can be accurately described as shoddy, it goes without saying that the only thing that can save the PS2 from all out failure is 3rd party developer support. Now then, since Nintendo’s Gamecube and Microsoft’s X-Box are sealing up deals with 3rd party developers left and right, Sony’s saving grace will no longer be theirs alone. They will have to share their insurance policy to success with their competition, something that will ultimately lead Sony into their unforeseen demise. I have seen the future of videogames, and Sony is not in it. If my words prove to be incorrect, may I burn in the fiery furnaces of Lucifer’s hellish penal complex.
I have seen the future of this forum, and you\'re not in it.
Hmm, strange. My crystal ball must be broken. :rolleyes:
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Does not matter who won what...
the only thing that matters is which processor
has the most bang-for-the-buck.
I think the PS2 CPU is ok, but i think that
the next version of that CPU might really shine,
too bad it won\'t be implemented until 2005 at the
earliest if ever.
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To bad they didnt judge for performance only.Sonys single chip solution won an award for innovation whuppteee doooo.
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Originally posted by ps2hahaha
To bad they didnt judge for performance only.Sonys single chip solution won an award for innovation whuppteee doooo.
whupptee doooo?? i think only my grandma speaks like that...who cares what you think anyways,i crown thee troll of the week