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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Saotome on April 15, 2001, 08:46:53 AM
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Shingoku\'s thread was so good, I had to make my own. Don\'t get mad, \'cause I have not one bit of originality in my head. :) Just answer Yay/Yes or Nay/No with a little comment to each number. Got it? Here goes:
1) Was the Playstation 2 launch dissapointing?
2) Does the Playstation 2 future games list look amazing?
3) Are you anxiously awaiting Metal Gear Solid 2?
4) Does the X-Box interest you?
5) Will Microsoft reduce the price of their X-Box to under $350 American to compete with Nintendo\'s launch?
6) Are you anxiously awaiting Oddworld: Munch\'s Oddysee?
7) Does the Nintendo Gamecube interest you?
8) Do you like the fact that the Gamecube is a games-only machine?
9) Will this be to Nintendo\'s advantage?
10) Are you anxiously awaiting The Legend of Zelda IX?
BONUS: Is the (now cancelled) Indrema system better than every other console out there?
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1. Yay
2. Nay
3. Nay( never been a fan of the series)
4. Nay
5. Nay(it will be priced around 300 so I have to say nay)
6. Nay
7. Yay
8. Yay( it keeps the price down)
9. Yanay( wait and see is what I\'m saying)
10. Yay( but it definately won\'t be called that)
Bonus: Nay.
BTW, I voted for DC as the best next-gen console because it has a larger libary of great games than PS2 does.
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1.nay
2.yay
3.yay
4.yay
5.yanay - who knows what it will be for sure anywhere else
6.nay
7.yay
8.yay- i already have DVD with PS2 - don\'t need it in every console i buy
9.yay
10.nay
Bonus:nay
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1) Yay. SSX was great. TTT was Tekken 3, RRV was Ridge Racer, and DOA2: Hardcore didn\'t control as well as the Dreamcast version.
2) Yay. MGS2, FFX-XII, Harvest Moon 3 (!).
3) Nay. It\'ll be good, but I\'m not obsessed.
4) Yay. Microsoft will probably surprise a lot of people.
5) Nay. Unless M$ is willing to lose a lot of money per console, they will probably keep the price around $300-30 US.
6) Yay. From what I\'ve heard, it plays like a dream.
7) Yay. Nintendo - \'Nuff Said!
8) Yay. I\'m buying it for the games, not for the movies. Besides, I own two DVD players (one on comp other on TV) and don\'t feel like paying for another one.
9) Yay. Cheaper.
10) Yay. Zelda always amazes me.
BONUS: Nay. I was tempted to say "Yay" just for the hell of it.
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1) Nay
2) Yay
3) YAY!
4) Nay
5) Nay
6) Nay
7) Middlay
8) Nay
9) Nay (Not at these current prices)
10) Yay (we\'ll see how good it is...)
BONUS: I never played one, so how would I (or anybody) really know!
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1-Yay
2-Yay
3-Yay
4-Yay
5-Reduce?? There had to be a original price to reduce it. And its common knowledge that its likely to be ~$300.
6-Yay
7-Yay
8-Yay
9-Nay (their franchises are the only advantage.)
10-Nay (im lukewarm on the whole Zelda series. I want Mario, and Waverace way more.)
Bonus:Nay, DC\'s the best console out there ;)
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1) Was the Playstation 2 launch dissapointing?
Somewhat. I really wouldn\'t know, considering how I didn\'t get the console at launch.
2) Does the Playstation 2 future games list look amazing?
For the most part, yes.
3) Are you anxiously awaiting Metal Gear Solid 2?
Yup.
4) Does the X-Box interest you?
Indeed so. There\'s a lot going for it.
5) Will Microsoft reduce the price of their X-Box to under $350 American to compete with Nintendo\'s launch?
I\'m not psychic, but I believe it\'s very possible that the console will be priced at 300 dollars or less at launch.
6) Are you anxiously awaiting Oddworld: Munch\'s Oddysee?
Not really. I need to know more about it, honestly..
7) Does the Nintendo Gamecube interest you?
Yes, I like what Nintendo has to offer.
8) Do you like the fact that the Gamecube is a games-only machine?
I don\'t like it, nor do I dislike it. Obviously, lack of extra features isn\'t a good thing, but the console still looks to be great nonetheless.
9) Will this be to Nintendo\'s advantage?
No. I think the entire "set top box" and "dedicated gaming console" thing is stupid; all of the consoles will compete, regardless of what images their companies persue.
10) Are you anxiously awaiting The Legend of Zelda IX?
Yup. :)
Indrema? Bah.
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I cant vote in the poll.Both consoles are great in their own way.
now tha nay and yay:
1)Nay(I liked it as a start for thePS2.It begun with cool games.Not what Sony talked about.But I never expected PS2 to show its true strengths from day one anyways.)
2)yay(MGS2 AC4 T4 Wipeout FF10&11 GT3 Getaway SC2 Broken Sword etc)
3)yay(who isnt)
4)nay yay(I have some worries.And I am not speaking about the future of PS2)
5)yay(Perhaps.They ve got lots of money.They can handle bigger loss from hardware sales.)
6)yay
7)yay
8)nay yay(I ve got no problem.I dont like it more because of it but neither less.If it has great games ofcourse)
9)yay(kind of.Less things to worry.Less expenses)
10)nay(except if its a superb game.Never liked the other Zeldas much)
Bonus: Dont know about its games,how user friendly it is,how good its graphics are,its advandages and its disadvandages.I CANT ANSWER
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1) Was the Playstation 2 launch dissapointing?
No, TT and SSX owned
2) Does the Playstation 2 future games list look amazing?
yes sure it does!
3) Are you anxiously awaiting Metal Gear Solid 2?
hell yeah!
4) Does the X-Box interest you?
Slightly, only halo interstes me.
5) Will Microsoft reduce the price of their X-Box to under $350 American to compete with Nintendo\'s launch?
they will.
6) Are you anxiously awaiting Oddworld: Munch\'s Oddysee?
MMH..nah
7) Does the Nintendo Gamecube interest you?
No, nintedo hasn\'t shown me anything appart from crap!
8) Do you like the fact that the Gamecube is a games-only machine?
Ye it will be, but nogames anounced really interest me
9) Will this be to Nintendo\'s advantage?
No xbox will kick its arse! :)
10) Are you anxiously awaiting The Legend of Zelda IX?
No
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Sega\'s graphics are a generation ahead of PS2.I buying an Xbox because it has everything in it no addons.
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Yah my thread was pretty good *pats self on back* :D
1. Nay
2. Hell Yay
3. Yay (come on was this question really necessary?)
4. meh…
5. meh…
6. Nay
7. Yay
8. Nay
9. Nay
10. Nay
11. Negative
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*puts on ps2hahaha mask*
brrrrr ps2 sucks *drool* I want cookies, where\'s the sheep forks mommy blahhhhhhhhhhhh i hate sony and colored chicken *takes ritalin*
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Indeed so. There\'s a lot going for it.
such as?...
[QUOTENot really. I need to know more about it, honestly..[/QUOTE]
favorably we do comprehend its graphics aim be mediocre?
I don\'t like it, nor do I dislike it. Obviously, lack of extra features isn\'t a good thing, but the console still looks to be great nonetheless.
require what features?..oh wait..you mean those PC features that can be found on the *gasp* PC?
No. I think the entire "set top box" and "dedicated gaming console" thing is stupid; all of the consoles will compete, regardless of what images their companies persue.
I remember at NN you would jubilate the fact that GCN was a games only console and ridicule the PS2 for being a set-to-box(like xbox) as well as spread the word that this was nintendos greatest advantage...what happen?
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I don\'t see what in the blazes the point of attacking my post was; if you went through and did that to everyone\'s posts, you\'d turn this whole thread into a huge, pointless debate. This is a questionairre, not an argument.
I think my vendetta against you at other boards is what really inspired you to make this response.
I love how you try to make it look like I am biased from the comments I made. You nitpick what I said in such a pathetic manner, picking out just the little things that the general consensus of the forum might disagree with.
such as?...
The hard drive and broadband in the area of hardware, primarily. I think these could have a big effect on gaming. I realize that Sony provides these as well, but the problem there is that it comes in the form of an add on. I can see that doing somewhat well, but not on the same level as the Xbox.
Another thing that interests me about Xbox is that it is a newcomer to the industry. While this doesn\'t determine anything in the realm of whether it will win or lose by any means, it does mean that there is more "adventure" in the showing interest in it. There is more to await; more in the area of what the first party will create, more on the network plans, more on the route the console maker wishes to follow. I don\'t support Xbox above anything else, but it probably would be one of the more interesting consoles to back simply because not as much is predetermined.
favorably we do comprehend its graphics aim be mediocre?
What would you ask this for? I already have established that I don\'t await the game much. It\'s graphics aim to be mediocre? I could believe that if you provided a link about it. I do recall reading something along those lines in the past, however.
I\'m more interested in the gameplay concepts and the like, but even then, I don\'t care much about it.
require what features?..oh wait..you mean those PC features that can be found on the *gasp* PC?
Okay, I must say, what the hell? That section of your reply isn\'t even the slightest bit compatible with what you tried to argue. I didn\'t say a thing about Gamecube requiring these features; on the contrary, I said that lack of extra features wasn\'t a good thing. I\'d rather get a DVD player built in than not get one, basically. But, like I have already said, the console will still be great regardless of it\'s lacking these things.
I remember at NN you would jubilate the fact that GCN was a games only console and ridicule the PS2 for being a set-to-box(like xbox) as well as spread the word that this was nintendos greatest advantage...what happen?
I gradually went through a transition from Nintendo fan to being more of an all around fellow. Unlike you, who has wild opinion changes rather frequently. Speaking of which, didn\'t you stop caring about consoles? So why are you arguing about them here?
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The hard drive and broadband in the area of hardware, primarily. I think these could have a big effect on gaming. I realize that Sony provides these as well, but the problem there is that it comes in the form of an add on. I can see that doing somewhat well, but not on the same level as the Xbox.
They(broadband/HDD) could have a big effect on gaming?...are you listening to your self?...ever heard of DOOM? how about QUAKE?..or even Counter-stirke?...They are PC games that were playable on-line LONG before any console had on-line access..not only that but they can and were moded and still are to this day....something that is impossible on the xbox..
You make it seem as if the xbox will revolutionize gaming with it\'s BB and HDD...you(sadly) do not realize that it\'s already been taken advantage of LONG AGO on the PC.
Another thing that interests me about Xbox is that it is a newcomer to the industry. While this doesn\'t determine anything in the realm of whether it will win or lose by any means, it does mean that there is more "adventure" in the showing interest in it.
LOL...okay...they have had like 5 major shows all over the world...hyped their graphics and specs far beyond what sony did...reveal every game developer and game coming to the public MONTHS before they are to launch..and you call this an "adventure"??:laughing: what adventure? we know every damn thing about the xbox.
There is more to await; more in the area of what the first party will create, more on the network plans, more on the route the console maker wishes to follow. I don\'t support Xbox above anything else, but it probably would be one of the more interesting consoles to back simply because not as much is predetermined.
More to await?....so i guess nintendo has NOTHING coming correct? yup..that\'s the ticket..lets just throw everything we wanted to know about nintendo and their gamecube out the window:rolleyes:
I don\'t care much about it.
Its good that you agree with the majority of gamers.
Okay, I must say, what the hell? That section of your reply isn\'t even the slightest bit compatible with what you tried to argue. I didn\'t say a thing about Gamecube requiring these features; on the contrary, I said that lack of extra features wasn\'t a good thing. I\'d rather get a DVD player built in than not get one, basically. But, like I have already said, the console will still be great regardless of it\'s lacking these things.
So what is the point? i guess that was your little(and pathetic) attempt to make the GCN look bad or "limited" compared to xbox.
I gradually went through a transition from Nintendo fan to being more of an all around fellow. Unlike you, who has wild opinion changes rather frequently. Speaking of which, didn\'t you stop caring about consoles? So why are you arguing about them here?
if an "all round fellow" thinks the GCN is bad and not worth getting because it lacks features found on the PC and xbox(it\'s obvious you assume this) then i guess i\'m an angel.
also, the xbox is aimed at the PC user-base...so i must defend the PC.
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Jesus Nplayer, what was the point of starting an argument?
*sigh* I didn\'t even read all of it. I just have to ask you what was the point of starting an argument for absolutely no reason?
like for christ sakes dude, grow up. I don\'t mean to offend but for god sakes that was childish.
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- 1 - Nay - SSX,Madden 2001,Time Splitters,TTT
- 2 - Yay...Yeah!! Devil May Cry,Soul Revear 2,FFX,FFXI,FFXII,Baldur\'s Gate: Dark Alliance,Silent Hill 2,MGS2,Dropship,The Getaway,Formula One 2001,Twisted Metal Black,Wipeout Fusion,The Lost,The Next Lara,Herdy Gerdy,Red Faction,Half-Life,Test Drive Off-Road: Wide Open,Tekken 4,Virtua Fighter 4,Soul Calibur 2,AC4,The New Moto GP,The New RR,Maximo,RE 4,Naughty Dog\'s Games,Insomniacs\'s Games,The secret CodeMaster\'s racing games,ISS Pro Evo 2(PS2 version:D),Madden 2002,SSX DVD,GT4 :D:D:D and several others ;)...wait until the E3.
- 3 - Yay!!!
- 4 - Nay...by now...but things could change !
- 5 - Nay
- 6 - Yay...it\'s really an interesting Game!
- 7 - Yay...Mario!
- 8 - Yay...I\'ve just got a PS2 ;)
- 9 - Nay
- 10 - Yay!
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They(broadband/HDD) could have a big effect on gaming?...are you listening to your self?...ever heard of DOOM? how about QUAKE?..or even Counter-stirke?...They are PC games that were playable on-line LONG before any console had on-line access..not only that but they can and were moded and still are to this day....something that is impossible on the xbox..
You make it seem as if the xbox will revolutionize gaming with it\'s BB and HDD...you(sadly) do not realize that it\'s already been taken advantage of LONG AGO on the PC.
It should be common sense that I was refering to the console gaming market. I realize this has been done on PC, but it has never been done on a console before. It\'s revolutionary for a console, and I believe future consoles will take advantage of what hard drives and built in modems have to offer as well.
LOL...okay...they have had like 5 major shows all over the world...hyped their graphics and specs far beyond what sony did...reveal every game developer and game coming to the public MONTHS before they are to launch..and you call this an "adventure"?? what adventure? we know every damn thing about the xbox.
You missed my point. And the sarcasm in your reply made you sound like a total oaf, congratularions.
Microsoft is new to the industry, hence initially, nothing was preestablished. Sony and Nintendo.. you knew from the start most what to expect, from their past consoles. Microsoft.. there was nothing known as far as what to expect. Considering how Microsoft has been pretty open with their things, Xbox seems to have the more interesting timeline. Not all of the things on this timeline are good, however--a lot of it is bad for Microsoft\'s entry to the console market. I\'m merely saying that Xbox attracts my attention more often than other consoles simply because there is more to give attention to.
In all reality, what I\'ve said here would have applied far more a few months ago than it does now.
More to await?....so i guess nintendo has NOTHING coming correct? yup..that\'s the ticket..lets just throw everything we wanted to know about nintendo and their gamecube out the window
Remove "await." I was thinking more along the lines of scattered news things. Instead of long periods of nothing, there is news scattered about frequently. Instead of getting all news at E3, news is spread throughout, as you said, 5 trade shows.
Things are less.. boring with Xbox. Disappointments included, however.
Read:
I\'m not looking at this as "Xbox is solid excitment, you get a constant stream of awesome news about it daily!" Please don\'t infer that from this, that would be totally wrong and reflect me in a totally different way than I intend. What I\'d really like to say here.. I\'m having trouble putting it down to where it sounds right. Don\'t blatantly flame me for what I have said here, because it could easliy be misinterpreted.
In fact, perhaps this would be best if we dropped it. Such things like this, that I have trouble putting down in words, generally end up getting misinterpreted and becoming pointless arguments that drag on and on forever.
It would not bother me in the least if you simply disregarded this and the response to the whole "adventure" thing. Really, feel free to--it would save both of us some time. It\'d also save you the humiliation of totally misinterpreting what I am trying to say, and save the repitition of me having to reexplain it all.
Disregard anything above or below the area I speak of.. then I may become somewhat angered.
Its good that you agree with the majority of gamers.
Your next door neighbor, the kid in your history class who picks his nose, your older cousin, and the old guy in the alley are not the majority of gamers. You don\'t know the majority of gamers. You can\'t speak for the majority of gamers.
Of course, neither can I. For all we know, you could be right.. the majority of gamers don\'t give a damn about Munch\'s Oddysee. Of course, for all we know, you could easily also be wrong.
So what is the point? i guess that was your little(and pathetic) attempt to make the GCN look bad or "limited" compared to xbox.
You exagerative, word manipulating freak. I\'m not saying the Gamecube is bad or limited in any way at all whatsoever. I\'m simply saying that I\'d rather get a DVD player and a gaming console than just a gaming console. This does not mean that I think Gamecube is inferior to Xbox, I\'d just prefer getting a DVD player also. I still plan on getting a Gamecube completely regardless of this because I like what Nintendo has to offer.
Capish?
if an "all round fellow" thinks the GCN is bad and not worth getting because it lacks features found on the PC and xbox(it\'s obvious you assume this) then i guess i\'m an angel.
Read above. I love how you blow up words so much. You could capture a 2 inch minnow and claim it\'s a 5 foot great white shark that has teeth 4 feet longer than normal and can fly due to radiation from nuclear tests in Asia.
Saying I am at all biased against Nintendo is a load of crap. I\'ve bought every Nintendo console to date, I\'ve owned 4 Game Boys of differing styles (5, once Game Boy Advance is released), and plan to get a Gamecube. I don\'t know what the hell you draw such horribly moronic inferences from.
also, the xbox is aimed at the PC user-base...so i must defend the PC.
But the Xbox does not compete with the PC in any way. The Xbox competes with Playstation 2 and Gamecube, and it is trying to draw an audience from the PC\'s userbase. But it does not compete with the PC in any way, it isn\'t going to actually take the PC\'s users away. It\'ll merely draw them into the console world as well. The PC market is pretty much seperate from the console market, similar to the handheld market. It doesn\'t compete with consoles, though it focuses around videogames.
I must ask: Why did you do this? You\'re wasting so much of our time by arguing me in a topic like this. If this was a topic where we were discussing things, I could see it as okay for you to argue me (of course). But we were just supposed to answer questions here.
Had you simply answered the questions, I wouldn\'t have done this to you.
By the by: You\'re a nimrod.
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It should be common sense that I was refering to the console gaming market. I realize this has been done on PC, but it has never been done on a console before. It\'s revolutionary for a console, and I believe future consoles will take advantage of what hard drives and built in modems have to offer as well.
Revolutionary? how? just because you can add your music into a game? just because you can save games on it?..how is this revolutionary?..also, nintendo was the first to try and bring the HDD concept to gamers with the 64DD..so either way microsoft never has or will being nothing new to console gaming.
the aging and dead sega dreamcast has a built in modem and was the first to bring on-line gaming to consoles(or was it saturn?)....xbox brings nothing new.
You missed my point
no, you did;)
Microsoft is new to the industry, hence initially, nothing was preestablished.
But now it is....we know everything about xbox..all it\'s games technology everything...there is nothing new about them any more.
Sony and Nintendo.. you knew from the start most what to expect, from their past consoles.
PSX=exclusive third parties
PS2=third parties not exclusive save a select few(the important ones)
N64=no third parties
GN=many more this time
you sir are totally wrong...the PS2 and GCN are and still are unknowns...
Microsoft.. there was nothing known as far as what to expect. Considering how Microsoft has been pretty open with their things, Xbox seems to have the more interesting timeline. Not all of the things on this timeline are good, however--a lot of it is bad for Microsoft\'s entry to the console market. I\'m merely saying that Xbox attracts my attention more often than other consoles simply because there is more to give attention to.
LOL..boy, you think your slick don\'t you?...WE KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT XBOX ALREADY...how is this even an advantage for xbox? that is your opinion and is worth nothing...a ENTIRE NATION(japan) has little to no intrest in the xbox(proven fact) i\'ll rather listen to a few million gamers in the world than a xbox zealot....
In all reality, what I\'ve said here would have applied far more a few months ago than it does now.
duh.:laughing:
seriously it would and still applies to nintendo..we REALLY don\'t know anything about GCN...but since you are bias towards xbox i can see why you ignore it.
Remove "await." I was thinking more along the lines of scattered news things. Instead of long periods of nothing, there is news scattered about frequently. Instead of getting all news at E3, news is spread throughout, as you said, 5 trade shows.
so why did you insist on ignoring nintendo and the GCN? we sure do know everything about the hardware hu?;rolleyes: and Mario looks fantastic and plays awesome correct?:rolleyes: if anyone is "new: it\'s nintendo...we know nothing about them.
Things are less.. boring with Xbox. Disappointments included, however.
boring? what\'s so exciting with xbox? is the sexy xbox shoes j.allard sports around trade shows? the sinister hair piece bill gates tries to hide?:laughing: give me a break.
It would not bother me in the least if you simply disregarded this and the response to the whole "adventure" thing. Really, feel free to--it would save both of us some time. It\'d also save you the humiliation of totally misinterpreting what I am trying to say, and save the repitition of me having to reexplain it all.
please do..i\'m still trying to understand how a person on the internet wants or HAS had a "adventure" with the xbox.:laughing:
Your next door neighbor, the kid in your history class who picks his nose, your older cousin, and the old guy in the alley are not the majority of gamers. You don\'t know the majority of gamers. You can\'t speak for the majority of gamers.
I am a gamer and i can speak for the gamers...i do not slant either which way because i support the PC not limited consoles...my opinion can be taken as fact....millions of gamers in the Nation of japan do not care about xbox..that should be proof enough.
the majority of gamers don\'t give a damn about Munch\'s Oddysee.
correct.
You exagerative, word manipulating freak. I\'m not saying the Gamecube is bad or limited in any way at all whatsoever. I\'m simply saying that I\'d rather get a DVD player and a gaming console than just a gaming console. This does not mean that I think Gamecube is inferior to Xbox, I\'d just prefer getting a DVD player also. I still plan on getting a Gamecube completely regardless of this because I like what Nintendo has to offer.
so why contradict your self M4? at NN you treated the fact that GCN was games only as baby jesus...yet damned the satan him self PS2 for being a set-top-box...yet here we are supporting the xbox even tho it\'s a set-top-box....please, either stay with one opinion or shut up.
Also...are you talking about the add-on dvd player for xbox? it\'s not built in...i hope you know that or maybe you are talking about the PS2 dvd player?
This also shows you do not care much about nintendo...why worry about a dvd player(when you will have 2 with the xbox and PS2) and worry about how long it will take to play the next mario game? or zelda game? or the new games myiamoto is making?
Capish?
I don\'t know what the hell you draw such horribly moronic inferences from.
look above.
But the Xbox does not compete with the PC in any way. The Xbox competes with Playstation 2 and Gamecube, and it is trying to draw an audience from the PC\'s userbase. But it does not compete with the PC in any way, it isn\'t going to actually take the PC\'s users away. It\'ll merely draw them into the console world as well. The PC market is pretty much seperate from the console market, similar to the handheld market. It doesn\'t compete with consoles, though it focuses around videogames.
For an xbox zealot you really don\'t know much about xbox...go read some interviews with the xbox team...their goal is simple...get a niche(stolen) piece of the PC market and build from their...The xbox does not compete with PC gaming?...i\'m still trying to get over the shocking of hearing such unfounded claim.
xbox CPU=Intel
PC cpu=intel
Xbox graphics=Nvidia
PC graphics=nvidia
xbox main developers=PC developers
PC main developers=PC developers
Notice how Intel and Nvidia are the market leaders(dominators)? so don\'t bring up Ati or AMD.
Not to meantion their killer-aaa game(halo) comes from PC developers..
To think the xbox is not trying to steal some of not all the PC gaming pie is stupid plain and simple...
I\'m sorry you are blind and cannot see the truth, while a select few..my self included..are privy to the truth.
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N-Player... Open a new thread, could you?
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Originally posted by Saotome
N-Player... Open a new thread, could you?
Done. (http://194.47.16.181/forums/showthread.php?threadid=8404) :)