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Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: FackinKubuss on April 16, 2001, 08:41:29 PM
When is the GeForce 3 coming out, anyone have a PRETTY GOOD estimate, or even an exact date???

b/c I am in desperate need of a new comp and by the time my dad pays off all the bills for the furniture and the rug and stuff for the new room he\'ll probobly realize that we need a new comp lke everyone does and i want the geforce 3 in it...

does anyone have an estimate price for it?
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Crippler on April 16, 2001, 10:15:18 PM
Some versions of the ge force 3 are out now.  There are some at $469 american.

Screw that though, kyro 2 all the way baby.
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on April 17, 2001, 12:47:26 AM
the leadteck GF3 is out right now in singapore, it is around 700 us dollars but according to the store it will soon be 400 - 500 us dollars :)
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Regent Weber on April 17, 2001, 12:49:21 AM
The Geforce 3\'s are already out now. They\'re running from $450-$600+ (US).

I personally would recommend holding off on the purchase of a GF3, and opt instead for a GF2 GTS or GF2 Ultra with 64 MB DDR RAM. They should be in the low $200-$300 very shortly. Their perfomance is just as good, but only cost half as much. It will take 6-12 months before games that actually USE the GF3  architecture and instructions to start showing up in any great numbers.

Keep the cash for the future.
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Samwise on April 17, 2001, 01:09:43 AM
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Originally posted by Regent Weber
The Geforce 3\'s are already out now. They\'re running from $450-$600+ (US).

I personally would recommend holding off on the purchase of a GF3, and opt instead for a GF2 GTS or GF2 Ultra with 64 MB DDR RAM. They should be in the low $200-$300 very shortly. Their perfomance is just as good, but only cost half as much. It will take 6-12 months before games that actually USE the GF3  architecture and instructions to start showing up in any great numbers.

Keep the cash for the future.
Yay, well said ol\' boy! And welcome back btw - long time no see. :D
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: nO-One on April 17, 2001, 07:00:47 AM
There\'re have been reports of delays :(,but the good news is that the price seems to have dropped from 600+ bucks to 399,still expensive but a price drop is a price drop.
However you won\'t really see that much of an improvement until DX.8 games come out.Then the Radeon will also start to shine.And when playing at lower resolutions your performance will be worse than from a GF.2
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on April 17, 2001, 07:11:51 AM
may I say that Direct X 8 already out?
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: FackinKubuss on April 17, 2001, 08:06:44 AM
Yea, I think it is out, I think I have it... anyway

Thanks everyone... but if its out how come I\'m not seeing it for sale anywhere online or in the stores?

Do you think in like 2 months the price for GeForce 3 wil be down to like 300 cause thats when I\'m probobly gettin my new comp???
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: nO-One on April 17, 2001, 08:38:09 AM
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
may I say that Direct X 8 already out?


Yes but DX.8 based games aren\'t,well maybe 1 or two.But it takes time for the games to catch up.
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: jm on April 17, 2001, 08:40:33 AM
It\'s a complete waste of money currently if you ask me. Unless you absoulty need to play at resoutlions higher than 1280x1024x32 in Quake 3, play Giants and don\'t mind waiting another 4 months for games to come out to take advantage over its new features by all means get one.


But it isn\'t worth if if you are the casual gamer who plays games like Quake 3 at resoutlions lower than 1280x1024 as the GF2 performs just as good if not better than the GF3! I\'d wait and see after 3 months after release. So far reviews have said its not as revoultanary as they expected it being (the 10x more powerful and more framereates in Quake 3 than GF2 nonsence).

Unless Doom 3 requires it, I\'m a happy camper.

jm
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: FackinKubuss on April 17, 2001, 08:55:22 AM
Thanks again.. you\'re rite I think I\'ll just get the GeForce 2 Ultra when I get mynew comp.
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on April 18, 2001, 08:00:34 PM
I\'ll wait for AGP 8x if i were you guys, like DR Yassam said it will boost the preformance of pc game graphics to new levels!
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: inteq on April 18, 2001, 10:11:26 PM
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Screw that though, kyro 2 all the way baby.


My thoughts exactly!


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I\'ll wait for AGP 8x if i were you guys, like DR Yassam said it will boost the preformance of pc game graphics to new levels!


Well, since there is really no difference using AGP 4x over 2x, I do\'nt see why 8x would make such a difference.  DX8, however, will boost the graphics and performance of games that take advantage of it.
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on April 18, 2001, 10:15:30 PM
yes they will take advatage of it, look at Unreal 2 , doom3 , max payne and many other making use of gf3 already. I think gf4 will be the first card that will take advantage of AGP 8x.

You have to ask DR yassam for more info on this.
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: inteq on April 18, 2001, 10:39:45 PM
I was just at another forum I frequent, the Anandtech forums, and there is a thread about AGP 8x.

Link to thread (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=411164)

btw-my username is Katana over there
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Nplayer-2 on April 19, 2001, 01:01:43 AM
I say wait for the Bitboys XBA...it will be here around 3Q/4Q 2001..the specs?

8 pixel-pipe design
40+GB/sec of internal bandwidth
70+Mbit of EDRAM
REAL 2.4 gigatexal fill-rate
Efficent hardware transform and lighting engine
FULL DX8 support
30million transistors for LOGIC alone
SDRAM..DDR..SGRAM models(64MB on-board)


This pretty much destroys the Geforce3 in every imaginable way...and is does not cost 600..or 500..or 400 dollars..maybe not even past 300 dollars;)

go ahead and laugh all you want..bitboys are real.

Yassam is also the same person who said the Xchip is a "GENERATION" ahead of the geforce3..:laughing: please...;)
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Samwise on April 19, 2001, 01:10:31 AM
Yes, I\'m sure bitboys will release the card soon. And at $200. Count me in, Nplayer. :)
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Nplayer-2 on April 19, 2001, 01:18:35 AM
:)

i expect the price to be NO MORE than 350...with some "extra" stuff in the box?...full version of MaxPayne anyone? :D(this is a rumor so don\'t take as fact;))
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: Clyde on April 19, 2001, 05:56:09 AM
the voodoo6, if it would have been released, was 8x\'s FSAA enabled

otherwise, i find this thread very boring
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: nO-One on April 19, 2001, 09:15:22 AM
ohh well for those who are interested,The Kyro 3 has been announced T&L baby :D.
And alot of people are pissed of at nVidia right now after they saw the leaked PDF file where nVidia was BSing the Kyro.
And the Bitboys should only be considered vapourware.They always talk about that they have the most powerful chip but they can never backup their claims.
And Clyde after 3Dfx sold their SLI technoligy to Quantum (I think that was the name of the company) they did an experiment and beefed up the Voodoo.5 6000,instead of the 6 VSA100 chips on the V5.6000 they put 8 :eek:

Here\'s a pic.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.PostMyPic.com%2Fa.nsf%2FZ%2FshiiiiiiiitLUXJ%2F%24file%2Fshiiiiiiiit..jpg&hash=5a7d410c2474822ad09cfbf9aafaccadab09b6d5)

now this would have been a powerful card,to bad it was only an experiment :(
Title: GeForce 3...
Post by: jm on April 19, 2001, 10:43:23 AM
Not to break Clyde\'s heart, I don\'t think Voodoo 5 6000 would have held a light to GF2 Ultra or the almighty GeForce 3. Maybe in image quality, but performance wise, they would have to make their technical team who do drivers work double duty just to get HSR up to the perfection mark.

jm