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Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: pstwo on April 17, 2001, 03:22:19 AM
Here are 3 new screenshots of Commandos 2 from Eidos Interactive.  Commandos is a tactical combat game set for release in fall of 2001.  I really like this game even more!!  :D

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avault.com%2Fnews%2Fscreenshots%2Fcomm2ps21.jpg&hash=9598ff31c1308ebf0027de8e1c830698f3faf472)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avault.com%2Fnews%2Fscreenshots%2Fcomm2ps22.jpg&hash=28a2813f064084c87ffc8b6bd7cef203af49b88e)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avault.com%2Fnews%2Fscreenshots%2Fcomm2ps23.jpg&hash=f18472a7da5a4141f134a3b76ff0de4b85354696)
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Bozco on April 17, 2001, 03:31:58 AM
looks nice
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on April 17, 2001, 08:26:37 AM
and it´s spanish! :D :D
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: THE EYE on April 17, 2001, 08:31:24 AM
It looks so real...
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Bozco on April 17, 2001, 12:59:16 PM
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Originally posted by THE EYE
It looks so real...


I wouldnt go that far
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: ddaryl on April 17, 2001, 03:17:11 PM
The game looks fantastic, but are these actual PS2 shots or generic shots released by Eidos to get people excited for the game
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: pstwo on April 17, 2001, 03:21:58 PM
Ddaryl,  I\'m not sure, but it should be PS2 ones.  I\'ll find out if it\'s the PS2 screens at Eidos Interactive site.  :D
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: pstwo on April 17, 2001, 04:02:01 PM
Here\'s screens for the PC, PS2 and Dreamcast.  I got these from the Eidos Interactive site.  There is more detail information at the site.  :D

PS2
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eidosinteractive.com%2Fgss%2Flegacy%2Fcommandos2%2Fscreenshots%2Fps2_bg4.jpg&hash=9e43c7d48ea02c726ff5d826e5935ec6a8e1f972)(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eidosinteractive.com%2Fgss%2Flegacy%2Fcommandos2%2Fscreenshots%2Fps2_bg6.jpg&hash=12c19eea657793d1d38f4281a527e50b24bb3cd5)

PC
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eidosinteractive.com%2Fgss%2Flegacy%2Fcommandos2%2Fscreenshots%2Fpc_bg3.jpg&hash=1d5be005bf45b4ffa50c13ede58ab907bf62e536)(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eidosinteractive.com%2Fgss%2Flegacy%2Fcommandos2%2Fscreenshots%2Fpc_bg1.jpg&hash=ce575db31fde7b1efb7e9aa573b57ad42337b69d)

Dreamcast
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eidosinteractive.com%2Fgss%2Flegacy%2Fcommandos2%2Fscreenshots%2Fdc3_bg.jpg&hash=9c87f2f63c35237eccec2a91038095c1c827721e)(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eidosinteractive.com%2Fgss%2Flegacy%2Fcommandos2%2Fscreenshots%2Fdc6_bg.jpg&hash=5e78044225c520af6b2e8c6a6c8032b2b356fadb)

Well....they all look good.
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: ddaryl on April 17, 2001, 04:10:21 PM
they all look suspiciously the same in quality

either they are pre-rendered or there from the same version.
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Faithdies on April 17, 2001, 05:48:30 PM
I would have to agree.
They all do look a lot alike.
Still, even if the graphics arnt amazing Im still going to get this game.
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on April 17, 2001, 06:22:32 PM
GOD you guys are dumb, have you ever palyed the original comandos? The backgrounds are not 3d THEY ARE PRE-PRENDERED like ddaryl said. Its like onimusha, 2dbackdrops with 2d chracters
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: ddaryl on April 17, 2001, 06:26:19 PM
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
GOD you guys are dumb, have you ever palyed the original comandos? The backgrounds are not 3d THEY ARE PRE-PRENDERED like ddaryl said. Its like onimusha, 2dbackdrops with 2d chracters



Dude, chill. Lets not be calling people dumb for not being in the know.

Instead just educate us gently with fact and kind wisdom son
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: unknown on April 17, 2001, 06:34:59 PM
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
GOD you guys are dumb, have you ever palyed the original comandos? The backgrounds are not 3d THEY ARE PRE-PRENDERED like ddaryl said. Its like onimusha, 2dbackdrops with 2d chracters


jeez dude take a chill pill, why did you post sucha rude reply like that? they didnt know, anyways the game is coming out great, i hope the gameplay is as good as the graphic\'s
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on April 17, 2001, 06:38:13 PM
yeah..you guys are right, that was stupid from..sorry **smacks himself in the face**  I\'m just really stressed today :)
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: ddaryl on April 17, 2001, 06:54:48 PM
In a game like this pre-rendered is the way to go

I\'m looking forward to this one but I believe its coming out right in the middle of a ton of cool games
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on April 17, 2001, 06:58:19 PM
yup you are right, the graphics are good but the gameplay is what really shines! It takes you hours just to complete one mission, its really that  hard! :) I like it!
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: inteq on April 17, 2001, 07:15:27 PM
Damn, I have to post this AGAIN.  The game is not prerendered like the original, it is completely 3d.

from gamespot (http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/previews/0,10869,2667181,00.html);

"However, in designing the sequel, the developers at Pyro completely scrapped the graphics engine of the original game in favor of a brand-new one. The results are truly outstanding. The resolution has been upped from Commandos\' meager 640x480 to a more acceptable 1024x768, which makes it possible to view a wider area of the game\'s breathtaking vistas and expansive cities. And while the game is still played from a locked isometric camera angle, all of the terrain and buildings are actually rendered in 3D polygons. To better appreciate the game\'s beauty, you have the option of constantly adjusting your perspective 90 degrees for a total of four different angles. Were it not for this feature, the benefits of rendering the levels in Commands 2 using 3D technology, as opposed to prerendering an entire image onto a two-dimensional canvas, would be lost on the game."
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: ddaryl on April 17, 2001, 07:20:08 PM
""""The resolution has been upped from Commandos\' meager 640x480 to a more acceptable 1024x768,""""


Well a few more questions then.  

1.) TV resolution is 640 X 480 so how is this going to work

2.) How come in full 3D this game looks better then almost every other game on the market with texture\'s on the PS2 version yet to be matched IMO

3.) How come the 3 versions look identical when the 3 machines have major differences ???????
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on April 17, 2001, 07:21:14 PM
I find that hard to beliefe,..I mean no console or pc can do that in 3d realtime polygons. look at it, is every single tile stone and bush 3d? I think not

EDIT

ddaryl great points, DC and ps2 or even xbox could never do that in real time. And yes commandos 1 could do a resolution of 1024 x 768 But with a chunky framerate.
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: inteq on April 17, 2001, 07:43:13 PM
Still don\'t believe me?  Go to Eidos\' (http://www.eidosinteractive.com/games/info.html?gmid=78) site.

"Completely new 3D engine provides the ability to rotate the environment 360° and move seamlessly in/out of buildings, submarines, planes and under water."
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: ddaryl on April 17, 2001, 07:50:59 PM
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Originally posted by inteq
Still don\'t believe me?  Go to Eidos\' (http://www.eidosinteractive.com/games/info.html?gmid=78) site.

"Completely new 3D engine provides the ability to rotate the environment 360° and move seamlessly in/out of buildings, submarines, planes and under water."



its not that I don\'t believe your info, but you have to admit there\'s something fishy here. No way all 3 versions look identical.
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: inteq on April 17, 2001, 07:54:33 PM
Yeah, the screens are probably all from the same version, most likely the PC.
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Darth Joyda on April 17, 2001, 08:00:48 PM
But we have already seen official ps2-pics of the game - and they do look as good as the pc-ones. Or is Eidos just fooling around and mistakenly named the PC-shots to be PS2-shots as well?

Anyways - I\'ll get this game. But it MUST support a mouse, or I\'m out. Commandos is much easier to play w/ a mouse, if Eidos haven\'t made up a really good controlling system for Dual Shock 2.

Commandos 2 is on top of my waiting list - Commandos was one of the most original and best titles when it came out - but if it just can work in my computer... I will have a hard time deciding wich version to buy :)
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: ddaryl on April 17, 2001, 08:07:59 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
But we have already seen official ps2-pics of the game - and they do look as good as the pc-ones. Or is Eidos just fooling around and mistakenly named the PC-shots to be PS2-shots as well?

Anyways - I\'ll get this game. But it MUST support a mouse, or I\'m out. Commandos is much easier to play w/ a mouse, if Eidos haven\'t made up a really good controlling system for Dual Shock 2.

Commandos 2 is on top of my waiting list - Commandos was one of the most original and best titles when it came out - but if it just can work in my computer... I will have a hard time deciding wich version to buy :)



a.) I think Eidos is yanking our chain just look at the DC pics above no change at all.

b.) IGN or DR did a preivew of this game and said the PS2 interface was a joy to play with the DS, and actually better. Take it with a grain of salt but screw mouse and keyboard on a console. Where the hell you gonna play on your coffee table or carpet, that\'ll be fun.


I\'m looking forward to the game as well, but the games new scheduled release puts it in the middle of great game central.
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: pstwo on April 17, 2001, 08:09:36 PM
Ddarly, I got those screenshots direct from Eidos Interactive,  It came from the PC link, PS2 link and the Dreamcast link. These are real screenshots from each system.  Click on my pictures and see the link.  Each one is different from another.  :D
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Darth Joyda on April 17, 2001, 08:12:44 PM
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Originally posted by ddaryl


screw mouse and keyboard on a console. Where the hell you gonna play on your coffee table or carpet, that\'ll be fun.




I agree with that - but you can solve those problems out if you really want :)

Anyways, I\'m glad to hear the interface of the game has been praised already.
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: ddaryl on April 17, 2001, 08:15:33 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda


I agree with that - but you can solve those problems out if you really want :)

Anyways, I\'m glad to hear the interface of the game has been praised already.



of course there are ways, but the majority won\'t bother.

I will design a table to hold my GT Force wheel for GT3

but the interfaced was preliminarily praised for the PS2 version. but we\'ll see



Here\'s August\'s line-up

Commandos 2  Aug. 1
Herdy Gerdy     Aug. 1
Project Eden    Aug. 1
Resident Evil: CV Perfect  Aug. 1
Soul Reaver 2   Aug. 1
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Falgarok on April 18, 2001, 03:03:27 PM
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Originally posted by inteq
Still don\'t believe me?  Go to Eidos\' (http://www.eidosinteractive.com/games/info.html?gmid=78) site.

"Completely new 3D engine provides the ability to rotate the environment 360° and move seamlessly in/out of buildings, submarines, planes and under water."

Commandos is a game from Pyro Studios, a Spanish team, so i\'ve read lots of interviews about the game.

As far as i know, the graphics are a mix of animated pre-rendered backgrounds and 3D objects/vehicles/characters. Due all the interactive elements are being rendered in real-time the actual engine gives you the possibilty to choose 4 different views on every location( this wasn\'t possible in the previous Commandos \'cos all was 2D).

Also, in Commandos 2 you can enter in every building/submarine/prison. When you do this, the pre-rendered backgrounds are replaced for detailed 3D models of the rooms so you can rotate the camera( or let the camera system follow your actions). Even when you look through a window you could see the movements of the guards outside or use the sniper to eliminate one of your targets( zoom included).

Anyways, the best thing about Commandos is the gameplay. It\'s one of the most addictive games i\'ve played.
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: pstwo on April 18, 2001, 03:07:27 PM
That\'s cool to hear!!  You\'re able to go in subs, prison etc.!  :D
Title: 3 New Screens of Commando 2:
Post by: Falgarok on April 18, 2001, 03:49:04 PM
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Originally posted by pstwo
That\'s cool to hear!!  You\'re able to go in subs, prison etc.!  :D

And if that isn\'t enough, you could do things like release food when you\'re in the water and then use the surrounding fish to hide you from the guards.

The number of posibilities to end every mission is astounding.